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The HCS Play the Don't 24/7 Craps Betting Strategy

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Hawaii Craps Shooters

Hawaii Craps Shooters

Күн бұрын

Bet you can't roll 2 4's before a 7. This is what my completely Dark side Craps Strategy is based on. In this video, I share with you my "Go To" Dark side Craps Betting Strategy which I call the HCS Play the Don't 24/7. Short for 2 4's before a 7. It's a very simple but powerful.
Watch as I show you how to play this Don't strategy and the many winning opportunities this craps betting strategy has.
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@texadonkey34
@texadonkey34 2 жыл бұрын
Watching & trying to learn 😻👍. You explain this easy enough for me to understand. Good lesson. Hope you enjoyed your trip. 🎉🤠
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kat
@rockycoates7198
@rockycoates7198 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always! I agree with your philosophy of having many strategies in your tool belt! You never know which way the dice are going to roll, so you better be able to adjust on the fly. Thanks for the great videos.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rocky. Yes. Having different strategies in your tool belt can only make you a better versatile craps player.
@albertkaina4663
@albertkaina4663 2 күн бұрын
I’m new to watching you guys thanks for your show
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters Күн бұрын
@@albertkaina4663 you’re welcome
@nachosbellegrande8228
@nachosbellegrande8228 2 жыл бұрын
When you debuted the HP 120 you knew there would be strong opinions from especially Hawaiian craps players about being on the dont and you were totally right. People need to evolve beyond thinking that the don't is betting "against" anybody. Why wouldn't you at least explore strategies where you win on the most commonly rolled number? Even if you decide not to stick with it I'm proud of you Brian, I don't see how anyone can run a craps channel without at least exploring all aspects of the game including the dark side.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Yes. In order to get good at the game you need to understand both sides
@pollopollo3531
@pollopollo3531 2 жыл бұрын
I really like this! I love this donts and this makes it way more fun. Thank you for the video!
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome
@claytondean3591
@claytondean3591 2 жыл бұрын
Bryan, nice video. This strategy feels less like gambling. At around the 38:40 mark you hit a hard six point but did not take the money off the don't pass. Very solid strategy, I like it a lot.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Clayton
@Michael-xg2hm
@Michael-xg2hm 2 ай бұрын
And 24:24 rolled 7 Didn’t take off dp either
@anthonyromero6481
@anthonyromero6481 2 жыл бұрын
I really like dont strategies. Especially when you lay a number to cover the 7. Looking forward to more of this at different levels.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
Coming soon.
@Pik4Joel
@Pik4Joel 2 жыл бұрын
Nice show, Guys! I have been watching you every weeknight, playing virtually... Aloha, and Mahalo Bruddah...
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joel.
@dandvd.472
@dandvd.472 2 жыл бұрын
Good job Bryan explaining strategy. Keep up the good work. Dan 🎲🎲
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dan
@thecheese2386
@thecheese2386 2 жыл бұрын
I tested the Waylon lay 4, place 10 at the Red Wind casino tonight. $5/20 bet si no get hurt. 30 wins in 2 hours. Wow, going to test it at the Emerald Queen tomorrow 🤙
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
Waylon has great strategies. His ladder system is a good one.
@probertosgood9879
@probertosgood9879 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video. I've learned so much from watching your channel. Keep up the good work!
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@probertosgood9879
@probertosgood9879 2 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters I just learned of the Vig (fee/tax) on laying the 4. How would that work on the Vegas Strip? I have to pay that Vig when I make the bet everytime? That seems like that fee would add up over time. Thanks Monte
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
@@probertosgood9879 depends. Some charge it upfront some only if it wins
@probertosgood9879
@probertosgood9879 2 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters thanks for the heads up!
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
@@probertosgood9879 👍
@terryhuang5118
@terryhuang5118 2 жыл бұрын
I only play pass line when I am a shooter, because I know dice control is the only way can beat the casino. And while others shooter shooting I always play don’t pass unless the shooter is also a dice controller. That’s why I win most of the time😊.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
Nice Terry
@easyedawg9160
@easyedawg9160 2 жыл бұрын
I carry a mini notebook with craps strategies. I will be adding this one to my repertoire. Mahalo
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@MidAtlanticCraps
@MidAtlanticCraps 2 жыл бұрын
Bryan I love it! Similar to my Squeeze 4 Strat which I based off one of your previous strategies. Some YTers didn't like the Hedge, but I like your plan!
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
Everybody has different taste and preferences. Lol
@texasrose96
@texasrose96 2 жыл бұрын
Love this video...would like to see this with laying the back wall instead of laying the 4. Sure you lose 30. But as much as the 7 rolls on the come out you cover your don't pass and make money. I haven't tried this but may roll thus out myself. Keep up the good work!
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
True but I rather win $55 and not $34 on a DP win.
@jimcarrington6744
@jimcarrington6744 Жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShootersI'll meet both of you in the middle. Instead of laying the 4, or the back wall, many may prefer to lay both the 4 and 10. You can win both, but can only lose one of them & to recover, your lay is half as much so less bankroll required.
@hawaiisrealestateagentresource
@hawaiisrealestateagentresource Жыл бұрын
@@jimcarrington6744 That's another option as well. I have found that laying the back wall does make the dealer work more and most are not happy about doing the chore. lol
@valiantsyed8075
@valiantsyed8075 4 ай бұрын
And once a Darkside dude used the centre position, then used the Red ($5 bucks) chips and stack them as high as he can (his bets was $50, so 10 chips high. If he lost (well, I do the Natural on the Come Out) he Martingale it, double to $100, 20 chips high, right at the centre. So to barricade any points. I creamed him out.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 4 ай бұрын
Those guys I would just leave the table.
@atayasu
@atayasu 2 жыл бұрын
Mahalo Bryan, at 33:20 u paid yourself $55 with your own chips. At 39:10 the dealer took your $6 hard 6 bet that u won. So u made $203 in profits. Good job. RogerT
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
Oops I missed that $55 but the $6 Hardway six is correct. For $6 you win a total of $60 and not $60 for $6. Thank you.
@AdamHill
@AdamHill 2 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters The Payout for the hard 6 went into the rack but the $55 on the don't should have come down for throwing the 6.
@dmtannerdmtanner
@dmtannerdmtanner Жыл бұрын
I slightly tweak this strategy, I don't bet the 11 as a hedge, I let the 3 and the 11 balance out (in the long run). Similarly the 2 will balance off one of the six 7's (leaving only 5 out of 6 7's to worry about. Thats like 16% less 7's on the come-out. Hence you may adjust your hedge against the 7 accordingly. My purpose here is to minimize the hedging/casino-edge by considering the 2 and the 3 on the come-out. Your thoughts? Also, instead of laying just the 4 for the hedge, try laying both the 4 and the 10 for half as much. If one hits you'll only have half that previous amount (vs the single lay) to recover.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters Жыл бұрын
Lots of options. 👍
@googsfive-0318
@googsfive-0318 2 жыл бұрын
Now you on the right (Don’t) side! 🤙🏽
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
I’m learning Googs. Thanks.
@googsfive-0318
@googsfive-0318 2 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters how does that go over with the rest of the Crew?
@toothpickproductions1283
@toothpickproductions1283 2 жыл бұрын
hahaha ;-)
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
@@googsfive-0318 I’m the only One who uses it. Lol
@googsfive-0318
@googsfive-0318 2 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters I get plenty “stink eye” from the local people
@brianosteen1395
@brianosteen1395 Жыл бұрын
Sounds good in the beginning but didn't produce much ..did it
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters Жыл бұрын
Yeah. Designed just to get you out of the hand
@TechAiJourney-h808
@TechAiJourney-h808 2 жыл бұрын
I think you should place bets on some box numbers while waiting for the 7.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
You can but not just on this strategy
@jimmyjunk2337
@jimmyjunk2337 Жыл бұрын
based on what I am seeing this is a back n forth situation a safe way to play however what I would do is double the don't pass after a loss. You seem to win one lose one win one lose one. Maybe I would do a double don't pass line each time up to 3 x. So If you do 65 on the don't and lose your next don't pass is 110 if you lose again your next is 220. This will help you get up and off the table
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jimmy
@brianosteen1395
@brianosteen1395 Жыл бұрын
I like brother.. creekside or any where... especially in casino's
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters Жыл бұрын
Sorry don't understand your comment.
@thecalendarninja
@thecalendarninja 6 ай бұрын
I had a monster roll at the new Durango Casino in Vegas last week. I started with just a $120 buy in and finished at $501. I really should have been pressing up but i just kept collecting and I was rolling about 45 minutes or so.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 6 ай бұрын
Nice job.
@knuteboy3778
@knuteboy3778 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice Don't strategy Bryan. I just did a practice session with it, and it did great for the first two sessions. On the third one however, the two 4s before the 7 happened and wiped me out, but a losing session is going to happen. It's inevitable. It's just a matter of when. 2 out of 3 ain't bad! I think I would be too afraid to play this on a Bubble Craps, because it seems like whenever I Lay4 or Lay10 on Bubble Craps they start raining down in bunches...lol
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
It happens to every strategy but it should win in the long run.
@knuteboy3778
@knuteboy3778 2 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters Yeah I've been playing it more along with videos of Let It Roll doing his Bubble Craps, and it's been kicking butt. I love the protection on the come-out. The more I play it, the more I like it.
@dmtannerdmtanner
@dmtannerdmtanner Жыл бұрын
Instead of laying just the 4 for the hedge, try laying both the 4 and the 10 for half as much. If one hits you'll only have that previous amount (on the single lay) to recover.
@Mr.Caring
@Mr.Caring 2 жыл бұрын
Fun stuff 😁 sir
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@foxbatviper
@foxbatviper 6 ай бұрын
would it not be better to put half on 4 and half on 10?
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 6 ай бұрын
Then you expose 6 combinations
@johnhouldsworth7065
@johnhouldsworth7065 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps we need to educate players that when they are are the receiving end of the table they should move chips left or right to leave the center lane open. I just view this as craps etiquette 👍
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
I agree but players will do what they want. 🤦🏻‍♂️
@gscop1683
@gscop1683 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting....but this roll particularly illustrates an advantage to being able to easily transition to light side while still protecting with either initial DP or using winnings to run through DC....After you transition to lightside using a strategy like Hedgeless Horseman or some other hybrid. This would have been a great roll to play both strategies at same time with similar size bets. Thanks !
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome.
@johnpalacios5914
@johnpalacios5914 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making these videos Money Shot. I plan on being in Vegas next week and look forward to playing craps. Here’s my variation on your strategy. Just bet on the “don’t pass and you can’t lose”. Start with 25 and if you lose add a bet. In other words $50, $75, $100 etc. when you win take a bet away. Statistically you should end up back to $25 min bet, but you collected $25 each time along the way. Give it a try!
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
Ladder?
@johnpalacios5914
@johnpalacios5914 2 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters sort of but much slower. Instead of betting on each roll of the dice you bet till you either lose or win which should be about a coin flip. Then you either add or deduct a bet. Work you way back to min bet but you don’t necessarily need to get there to make money.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnpalacios5914 Gotcha Thanks.
@drjcraps1216
@drjcraps1216 2 жыл бұрын
I don't like to hedge however if you must I would do the following. The come out 11 and 3 is a wash so I would not hedge the 11. Putting $1 on the 12 is your choice but again I would not do it. What I would do is hedge the 4 or 10 for more money so every time a 7 rolls on the come out you win much more than $2. The 7 is the most powerful number on the come out so why not exploit it? Thx for another awesome video. I really enjoy when you make videos of your trip outcomes in Vegas day to day. Can you keep doing these videos? Have an amazing day!
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
I’ll try and do a video on my next trip recap. Thank you
@dennisdejesus5531
@dennisdejesus5531 2 жыл бұрын
On your 2nd roll the point is 10 and you got $55 on the Don’t Pass. You should hedge that in to a win and win situation by buying the 10 for $55 If the 7 roll you get your $55 back, but if the 10 rolls you get paid $110 then you made $55 I do that strategy all the time on the 4 and 10
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
That’s another great suggestion. Thank you.
@tedberry1969
@tedberry1969 2 жыл бұрын
I tried the strategy tonight' - I works pretty well when you don't get killed - it got me about 5 times tonight on the second 4 bet - not only from other people but also from myself
@tedberry1969
@tedberry1969 2 жыл бұрын
I will admit I got to play for a long time - but in the end I was killed - dice were not nice
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
It could happen like any other strategy. Dice was not nice. The odds of hitting a 4 on the come out and then the 2nd easy 4 is just 1.3%
@robertknox704
@robertknox704 4 ай бұрын
Oops - you paid your win from your own bankroll at 33:30
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 4 ай бұрын
My bad. Lol
@MadnessMaker
@MadnessMaker 10 ай бұрын
How are you betting double on the don't pass after the point is set?
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 10 ай бұрын
Odds
@MadnessMaker
@MadnessMaker 10 ай бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters Ah gotcha. I tired your method here betting max odds every round and it proved to have steady enough growth to not worry about loss on the 4. Also used the same method betting every don't come with max odds with excellent results.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 10 ай бұрын
Nice@@MadnessMaker
@spd-yh9wg
@spd-yh9wg 2 жыл бұрын
At about the 33 minute mark when you rolled the 3 on the come out, you paid yourself from your own rack instead of the dealer's stack.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. My bad. That means I actually won more. Lol
@thecalendarninja
@thecalendarninja 6 ай бұрын
Amazing i love it!!!
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 6 ай бұрын
I'm glad you like it
@thomaslewis6356
@thomaslewis6356 9 ай бұрын
good info. i had to turn on CC, the chickens were just too distracting. i know what's for dinner tho. 🙂
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 9 ай бұрын
Sorry about that
@user-jy3ms7dl9q
@user-jy3ms7dl9q 3 ай бұрын
How/why does laying the 4, protect you from a 7, on the come out roll? Also, do you lose the 4, if the 4 becomes the point number❓
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 ай бұрын
A lay bet wins on a 7. Yes, you lose on the 4 if it hits.
@NatalieBeck-b4p
@NatalieBeck-b4p Күн бұрын
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@amphibdriver1
@amphibdriver1 Жыл бұрын
I was recently on my local casino and I started off buying the 4 and the 10 for $30 each and laying the 4 and the 10 for $30 each. If either the 4 or 10 buy bet lost I then went up to $60 on both the 4 and the 10 buy bets. If either 4 or 10 lay bets lost I went up to $60 on both the 4 and the 10 lay bets. If the 4 or 10 buy bet won I went down to $30 on both the 4 and the 10 buy bets. If either of the 4 or 10 lay bets won I went down to $30 on both of the 4 and the 10 lay bets. Because so many 4 and 10 place bets won and so many 4 and 10 were being hit I had $30 on both the 4 and the 10 buy bets and $330 on both of the 4 and 10 lay bets. When the 7 finally rolled I then went down to $270 on the 4 and 10 lay bet and went up to $60 on the 4 and the 10 buy bets. This crap system is hard to beat. I start off with a $6,000 bank roll.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters Жыл бұрын
Is that the Waylon’s “One” strategy?
@amphibdriver1
@amphibdriver1 Жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters -----> Yes it is.
@amphibdriver1
@amphibdriver1 Жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters ----> My favorite Wayylon crap stategy is starting off with $15 on the 4 and 10 place bets and buying the 4 & 10 lay bets for $30 each and then ladder up or down one lay bet or place bets when either one wins or looses.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters Жыл бұрын
@@amphibdriver1 Nice
@victorcardona4785
@victorcardona4785 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Only one comment when the hard six shoot you didn’t remove you don’t pass bet, and you ask won 60 dollars so you cheat a little hahaha
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
Lol. My bad
@jeremya.
@jeremya. 2 жыл бұрын
Love the chickens!! We have some ourselves 🤣
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@creolecajun9988
@creolecajun9988 2 жыл бұрын
Just bet $5 or $10 on Come out roll on any 7 that's your protection you pay a price of 15% of your winings but it's better than putting lay bets
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
See my newest video to why you should not. It’s a silent killer
@jimklemens5018
@jimklemens5018 7 ай бұрын
Betting on the 12 every comeout is insane.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 7 ай бұрын
I agree. I don’t do it since then.
@amphibdriver1
@amphibdriver1 Жыл бұрын
I was on crap table betting on the don't pass and guy threw the dice at random very wildly. His first roll went off the table and he hit a ten on his six roll of the dice. I lost $50 on the don't pass and then put $100 on the don't pass. He rolled another ten rolling the dice hard and wild. I'm now down $150. I then put $150 on the don't pass and he rolled a 10. His fourth point was another 10. I then thought as wild as he rolling the dice let's see him hit another 10. I then put $300 on the don't pass. On his third roll, both dice shot off the crap table. I then thought there is no way he will roll four tens in a row as wild as he is rolling the dice, but he did. He rolled a ten for a point four times in a row random rolling the dice and hit four tens. ,This stopped me from betting lots of money against a four or ten.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters Жыл бұрын
That’s certainly a rare case.
@msack9252
@msack9252 2 жыл бұрын
Good job but, double up sheet the first 4 gets you on the come out then double? How? 4 was established. You can't then put money on the don't Unless it odds? You are laying the 4 right for 260?
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. You add to the odds.
@phoneman76
@phoneman76 2 жыл бұрын
I have a similar strat. But I wait for a 4 or 10 to be rolled, then I lay on the same number (4 or 10) and I bet 40 on the Don't come. I figure two 4s in a row comes up less than one. So in your strat, the 4 or 10 would have to be rolled 3 times before a 7. I also don't hedge the 11 on the come out. I figure that odds are there will be more 2s and 3s than 11s on my come out, so why hedge the 11? And since a 7 will show up on my come out way more than two 4s, I lay enough on the 4 to win $25 when a 7 hits.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
Nice strat
@roughtrim
@roughtrim 2 жыл бұрын
Aloha Money $hot. Im a little shocked to see a Dont strategy on here from you but i get it to have more strategies to play by adjusting to what the table is doing. Would i call it a HCS 24/7 Dont strategy? No because HCS are strategic and controlled dice pass players. Would i call it Dont pass strategy for random and cold tables video? Yes! I play pass all the time until the table turn "sour" then play dont pass for a little bit until it returns back to normal. I enjoy your content as always because it has alot of useful information. Continued success and Aloha always!
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. It’s good to know different strategies.
@chiefofdc6405
@chiefofdc6405 Жыл бұрын
Every bet in the casino is against the casino
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters Жыл бұрын
Truth
@jimklemens5018
@jimklemens5018 7 ай бұрын
"Recuperate" isn't a word. Recoup is the correct word.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 7 ай бұрын
Thank you
@JayAr709
@JayAr709 2 жыл бұрын
Just two? John of Pro Craps at CASINO GAMING TV yesterday piled up NINE ( and likely would have wound up with twelve or more, but was called away during his live stream JOHN’S UNFINISHED SYMPHONY 😏).
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
Nice. I gotta watch that.
@brianosteen1395
@brianosteen1395 Жыл бұрын
Good choicr.. battling a useless cause isnt worth it.. /hot shooter.. Would you switch play?
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters Жыл бұрын
Yes of course.
@Morphius6
@Morphius6 Жыл бұрын
All you need is one shooter to make a 4 and your bankroll is cut in half. Am I the only one seeing that? 130 on the lay and 260 on the odds plus your DP
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters Жыл бұрын
They would need to hit 2 4's before a 7. Pretty low probability.
@davidpohar1676
@davidpohar1676 Жыл бұрын
Roosters place bet the 5 and have it always working!! Hahahaha!
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters Жыл бұрын
lol
@GeorgeFromCy
@GeorgeFromCy 2 жыл бұрын
Just yesterday I hit 3 hard 4s in a row but I wasn’t on a point 4 to start with lol. So it does happen bro.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
You’re the exception. I would not play this strategy against you George. Lol
@truckerjoe228
@truckerjoe228 4 ай бұрын
Just a suggestion. You’re missing two pivotal moves, Kleenex and a meat cleaver. 😊
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 4 ай бұрын
Lol
@ajwadshariz6187
@ajwadshariz6187 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Money Shot. I subscribed to your channel a few weeks ago. I like your videos. If I may suggest an addition to your strategy, instead of the 120 lay on the 4, I do a 180 lay on all numbers 30 bucks each. When a seven rolls I get paid 120, a number rolls I lose 30. I play the pass line for 15 and play the field on every roll. Let me know what you think. Thank you buddy.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
That’s great. It’s in my HP 120 strategy. Go check it out
@ajwadshariz6187
@ajwadshariz6187 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you will do. I watched the live craps yesterday. It was great.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
@@ajwadshariz6187 thank you for watching
@geeemahnee8858
@geeemahnee8858 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like a strategy in which you can't really make much money! You willing to lose a grand to make only a couple hundred! You get behind and it would be a struggle to recover! You take just one point 4 hit and you would lose so much that you wouldn't recover! If I going risk a grand I rather chance um to double up, this strategy has no chance to double up! Just my amateur opinion! Thank you for sharing and giving us options! Great content, I always look forward to your videos! Keep it up! Mahalo!
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
It’s definitely a grind which most DP strategies are.
@piksil165
@piksil165 9 ай бұрын
I am loving this strategy, but i have 2 questions about maybe making it better in my opinion. (i could be wrong about this, but this seems good to me). Question #1: with the comeout roll: could you turn on a $20 hard 4? this will protect the $130 lay 4, the same way the $130 lay 4 protects the $55 dont pass. (of course not entirely because hard 4 is only 1 of 2 ways for 4 to come up, so it protects it at a ~50% chance, but it still could protect it nonetheless). i think this way its the same thing with if you do hit the point 4 and lose the $130 lay 4. you still do a hard way 4 for $40 to make up the loss on the dont pass odds. But i think putting this bet on the come out roll, will minimize u maybe losing both 4's (comeout 4 and point made 4) so you have only a ~5% chance for both 4's to be made, and you only lose an extra $20 if you get unlucky and hit 2 soft 4's in a row. Question #2: with this strat, could you maybe play the "power cross" or what i call it, "pressing the cross". meaning you play the iron cross with this method, starting at $10 for each field, 5, 6, and 8. your dont pass pays for the ironcross with a profit of $6 if the 7 hits (since 6 and 8 u have to put up another $4). But this allows for the opportunity to get a good/hot shooter and make a lot of money by "pressing the cross". and if its a cold table, you can go back to you original method (not playing the iron cross). From what i tested, this "pressing the cross" mixed with your "HCS play the dont 24/7" is a good strat for hot tables, still with minimal risk because your dont pass pays for your iron cross. one thing i noticed is, if the point is 5 6 or 8. you could press the point if you wil on the field. to make up the loss of maybe hitting the point. press it enough to then go back to the other box numbers and press them. hopefully you can press the point enough to break even or almost break even with losing on the field and DP. (and if 7 comes up, DP protected your initial bets, so you should never lose money with hitting 7) let me know what you think about this, and keep up the amazing videos and strategies :)
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 9 ай бұрын
Yes you could do both
@AdamHill
@AdamHill 2 жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts on a split between the Lay on the 4 and Hopping the 4 on the come out. I would lay the 4 for $70 and Hop the 4 for $5. This gives up 5 per roll on the Come Out but I'd also add another $5 to the don't. I just like limiting the exposure on the 4 versus having to come out of pocket again for the odds if it does hit. In this case you still come out of pocket for odds but for $5 I can come out for half of what you do to get back.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
Hopping bets are a slow bleed. Check out my other video on the Don't pass Score board.
@stevemiller7089
@stevemiller7089 2 жыл бұрын
Back to back fours should be 3/36 x 3/36 which is .694444. About .7%
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve. This is good info.
@stevemiller7089
@stevemiller7089 2 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters took a stats and probability class about 30 years ago. Lol. But it should be the product of 2 independent events. It reduces to about .46 % taking out the hard 4. Please confirm though. Don't want to give you bad advice.
@stevemiller7089
@stevemiller7089 2 жыл бұрын
Also, these are back to back rolls only.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevemiller7089 under 1% is still great odds.
@stevemiller7089
@stevemiller7089 2 жыл бұрын
Again, these are before you start rolling. Obviously, once you roll a four, then you are back to 3/36 which is 8.3% of rolling a four.
@MrZola1234
@MrZola1234 Жыл бұрын
The 4 will be rolled 2 times before a 7 about 11% of the time. Their are 3 ways to roll a 4 and 6 ways to roll a 7. Thus, the chance of 2 4s before a 7 is .333 x .333. If you are talking any number vs a 4 2 times in a roll, it it .08x.08 = about .0069 or just under .7%. Less than 1% of the time. If you cover the hard 4 on the second one, it’s around .5 or half a percent.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters Жыл бұрын
This strategy is based on the low probability of that 2nd 4 to hit before the 7.
@travisbrown1619
@travisbrown1619 2 жыл бұрын
Why the boxcars bet put 54 dont pass and take the push
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
I want to recover the 11 bet and make some money
@bassclay100
@bassclay100 Жыл бұрын
this never works for me unless u wanna win 1 roll n leave i cant believe how many times people hit 4/5/9 on come out roll n HIT THAT NUMBER THEN THEY HIT 7 ON THE COME OUT ROLL NOW U DOWN SOME MONEY N THAT HOLE CAN GET BIGGER!! TRUST ME IVE TRIED!!!!
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters Жыл бұрын
All comes down to the dice combinations rolled.
@ermesborgnino4704
@ermesborgnino4704 2 жыл бұрын
What am i missing? The 12 is a push, so why put $1 on the EC bet? Help me out please!
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
I play it because it gives an opportunity to win money
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
Also better odds with 30/1
@ermesborgnino4704
@ermesborgnino4704 2 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters Got it. Thank you for the clarity.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
@@ermesborgnino4704 you’re welcome
@Andy.Fujimoto
@Andy.Fujimoto 2 жыл бұрын
You sound sick bro.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
Nah, just morning sniffles. It was cold in the morning. LOL
@Andy.Fujimoto
@Andy.Fujimoto 2 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters yup, its been kinda chilly up Waipio
@joeschmo8115
@joeschmo8115 7 ай бұрын
I would double my bet after 3 or 4 losses to recover $$$
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 7 ай бұрын
That could work.
@thaifaranginarizona1929
@thaifaranginarizona1929 2 жыл бұрын
I've used similar strategy Brian on cold tables, but when I do it, shooters would hit the points 😡😠🤬
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t let one shooter take more than 2 DP’s from you.
@justaman5490
@justaman5490 4 ай бұрын
33:20 You paid your win with your playing money not house money.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 4 ай бұрын
My bad LOL
@SideshowGamble
@SideshowGamble 2 жыл бұрын
That dang 5 bro
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
I should have not done my 5 set. 🤣
@Michael-xg2hm
@Michael-xg2hm 2 ай бұрын
I shot 2-4's
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 ай бұрын
LOL
@ChrisNova777
@ChrisNova777 Жыл бұрын
whats up with the rooster sounds lol
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters Жыл бұрын
We have wild chickens where I live
@phiberoptik232
@phiberoptik232 2 жыл бұрын
After watching this video I want to go to KFC and the casino, in that order.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@johnhouldsworth7065
@johnhouldsworth7065 2 жыл бұрын
Shirts for sale!?
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
Go to www.HCSstore.com
@corymatsumiyavivalasvegas8488
@corymatsumiyavivalasvegas8488 2 жыл бұрын
Another great sober strategy!! Sounds like you got some allergies....
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
Yup. Morning allergies. Lol
@creolecajun9988
@creolecajun9988 2 жыл бұрын
Here is the 4 or 10 lay strategy Don't play the Don't pass let a shooter establish a point as soon as he rolls either a 4 or 10 if it's a 10 then bet $50 lay on 10 and do nothing else if he rolls that 10 a second time you lose if he rolls the 7 before the 10 again you win $25..do that for every shooter don't double down or martingal
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
The difference is The don’t pass pays even money. The Lay pays you just half.
@valles088
@valles088 2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't it be better to hop the sevens instead of laying the four? Rather lose $15 than 130$
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
Actually no it doesn’t. Stay tuned for my next video explaining why.
@wesmcclaskie3442
@wesmcclaskie3442 Жыл бұрын
I thought the don't pass pays one to one so how come you get paid $55 for the one don't pass and only $130 for the $260 don't pass
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters Жыл бұрын
It's a lay bet. Lay bet pays reverse odds.
@wesmcclaskie3442
@wesmcclaskie3442 Жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters I'm not talking about the lay bet I'm talking about the 260 that you put on the don't pass
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters Жыл бұрын
@@wesmcclaskie3442 DP odds pay reverse as well. You get 1 to 1 only on the flat bet
@wesmcclaskie3442
@wesmcclaskie3442 Жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters my bad I misunderstood you said it was a don't pass you didn't say you were placing 260 in odds. Thanks now I understand
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters Жыл бұрын
@@wesmcclaskie3442 No problem.
@rezidentbivrip
@rezidentbivrip 2 жыл бұрын
Why wouldn't you just hop the reds for $12? You lose $12 if no 7 comes... but if a 4 comes you're losing $130. Then if you double it and it comes again you're down $290. That's almost a third of your bankroll. And we have ALL seen those 'improbable' things happen fairly often 😂. Then a third time and you might as well go home.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
I thought exactly the same. Stay tuned to my next video explaining why the lay is better.
@johnr7040
@johnr7040 2 жыл бұрын
The rooster is killing me….
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry 😢
@flynelroy6408
@flynelroy6408 2 жыл бұрын
Those chickens need to be nuggets by the next video. A little distracting to such a good demonstration.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. I agree. Lol
@frankybarra6067
@frankybarra6067 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, It's hard to hear you with all the chicken noise in the background. WTF!!!
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry. Yeah my neighbors keep on feeding them in their home. 🤦🏻‍♂️
@mattmoran7391
@mattmoran7391 Жыл бұрын
After the first 4 is hit you are risking like $350 to win $15. If it’s 3-1, you are already down $130 from the other 4. So down like $480. Now you need 10 straight 7 outs that doesn’t include another 4 to just get back to even. Not a good strategy
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters Жыл бұрын
Low probability buy high investment. That's the tradeoff
@sophiethesloth
@sophiethesloth 2 жыл бұрын
how did xmas vegas trip go for you playing the hp
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
HP $120 did very well. Saved me a lot of times.
@sophiethesloth
@sophiethesloth 2 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters any report videos from it, or live rolls with it in action.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
@@sophiethesloth I just released the Aliante live Craps last week.
@fortunatusnine2012
@fortunatusnine2012 2 жыл бұрын
The roosters won !! 🐓🐓🐓
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@Michael-xg2hm
@Michael-xg2hm 2 ай бұрын
24:24 you rolled 7 You lost Amd didn't take the dp off
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 ай бұрын
Sorry Mistake
@jimklemens5018
@jimklemens5018 7 ай бұрын
Please stop hedging your Don't Pass bet. It eats your money.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 7 ай бұрын
I agree
@valiantsyed8075
@valiantsyed8075 4 ай бұрын
And one more misleading tip (and deadly) you gave is: NOT every shooter are random shooter. You presumed it.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 4 ай бұрын
Everyone I don't know I treat them as a random roller till I see them throw a couple of throws. I would even consider you a random roller.
@born2rolldice
@born2rolldice 2 жыл бұрын
really the don’t????
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
Haha. Yes the Dont.
@brianosteen1395
@brianosteen1395 Жыл бұрын
Not much of money maker though
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters Жыл бұрын
Gets you out of the hand quick though.
@valiantsyed8075
@valiantsyed8075 4 ай бұрын
Yes, you got it! It’s a BORING play! You have to pass the dice once you WIN! Then wait an hr to your next turn! Stupid!
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 4 ай бұрын
I don't play this on myself I play this strategy on guys like you. Hehe. JK.
@valiantsyed8075
@valiantsyed8075 4 ай бұрын
I Layed the 4 on Come Out for $3,000, random rolled for the Natural, 4 hit TWICE! Your strategy sucks. Also you took 45 mins to explain a 45 sec roll.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 4 ай бұрын
Bro. Every strategy has a hole. You are just that unlucky. If you do not like my channel then simply don't watch.
@DarkSide-ds808
@DarkSide-ds808 2 жыл бұрын
Bradah HCS was always about the PASS BET, Dice Setting/Control AND CHALLENGING the Casinos with Strong 💪 Pass Rollers. AND Numbers Rollers. I am dumbfounded to see that Local Hawai’i Bradahs from HCS talking about dabbling on the DarkSide. It’s BAD enough that I watch how MoneyShot and Chef Dice praise and chase a little girl at the Casino who has NO DICE EXPERIENCE WHAT SO EVER, just for more followers to your channel. Cmon Bradahs LETS KEEP IT REAL. This was a good channel for the Strong Hawai’i Pass Players... Now it’s a CIRCUS and believe me... YOU DONT WANT TO ADD ANOTHER CIRCUS to the first CIRCUS as that Casino is DEAD. Let’s get back to basics Hawai’i Style. That’s why you guys was DIFFERENT from everybody ELSE Much Love and Aloha Let’s get Back to where we was
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Dark Side. Thank you for your comment. To be a better player in any game, you will need to learn all aspects of the game. You not only need to learn offense but you also need to learn defense to be a well rounded player. I did say in my video that this strategy can offend people and if I’m with friends and local braddahs I wouldn’t be playing the dark side but it’s always good to have that strategy in your tool belt. As for the female youtuber, we have many things in common and helped each other with things both of us needed help with and that’s what friends do. Help each other. I am sorry you have taken it the wrong way. Having fun together playing craps is what we have been doing way before HCS had its KZfaq channel and that’s who we are. If you see my past live casino video. I played the Dont in front of John G many times and he doesnt get mad because he understands the game and what our true character is. Aloha Braddah, I appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts. 🤙🏾
@DarkSide-ds808
@DarkSide-ds808 2 жыл бұрын
I truly GET IT NOW. My BAD, I thought HCS ( You chose your name) was going to be HardCore Pass Line/ Numbers Shooters from the Great 808. I see now that “We’re Just Along For the Ride”. Strategies??? I just watched you CATCH CRACKS at the Alliente AND the Bradah rolled four TENS and FOURS before the SEVEN, yet your posting Don’t 24/7. Good luck in your endeavors MoneyShot... If you really like TALK strategies learn how to count cards and PLAY BLACKJACK. As your crap strategies are so confusing and the waters are even murkier than when you first started. May the Force Be With the NO FEAR PASS LINE SHOOTERS FROM THE GREAT 808.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
@@DarkSide-ds808 Again you missed it. I did not take cracks at Aliante because I didn’t play the 24/7 strategy and I actually made money. I think you should double check my videos before saying anything. I apologize if my channel is no longer for you. Its oK. All good bro. There are many other channels out there that are great. You always have the choice of who and what you want to watch on KZfaq. 👍
@toothpickproductions1283
@toothpickproductions1283 2 жыл бұрын
Your Random Rolling of (3) 5's in a Row... Are you trying to Copy 'KEVIN' Rolling Results????!!!!! hahahaha
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
Don't you know? I'm a controlled Random Roller. LOL
@toothpickproductions1283
@toothpickproductions1283 2 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters 😂😂
@chefdice
@chefdice 2 жыл бұрын
Great video need to to make me a $300 don’t strategy for bellagio conp
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
LOL. Will work on it.
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