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The Unlikely Genshin Gamer

The Unlikely Genshin Gamer

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Secrets that Neuvillette reveals in his character stories and lore we have only just learned in Fontaine, suggests that the identity of the Heavenly Principles is no longer a mystery.
Spoiler warning for the archon quest, Masquerade of the Guilty.
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0:00 Intro
1:00 The World of Genshin has Five Principles
3:08 The Heavenly Principles Are Obvious
5:21 Istaroth
6:31 How Powerful are The Shades

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@ravishukla7493
@ravishukla7493 6 ай бұрын
I'm sure Celestia is planning to drop the celestial nail on this person's home 😂
@theunlikelygenshingamer
@theunlikelygenshingamer 6 ай бұрын
😱🤣
@lnsflare1
@lnsflare1 6 ай бұрын
For what it's worth, Khaenri'ah's Curse of the Wilderness looks a lot like Abyssal Energy/Forbidden Knowledge Corruption, which suggests that their Curse of Immortality was put there by Celestia to keep their souls from infecting Irminsul like Rhukkadevata's corruption was.
@theunlikelygenshingamer
@theunlikelygenshingamer 6 ай бұрын
I never though of it like that, I wonder why wouldnt they have followed through though, Rukkadevata's corruption went far deeper being the root connection to irminsul. I think the hilichurl sickness was perhaps something more sinister. They say it would only start to manifest once the khanrians came to the surface and considering what Dain said their reality being changed, i think those who were cursed as hilichurls quite literally had their humanhood taken away.
@lagrangewei
@lagrangewei 6 ай бұрын
@@theunlikelygenshingamerif that the case why didn't they take dain's "humanhood"? clearly this idea that it is sinister doesn't make sense when they one they are supposively "punishing" is suffering the least of the affect. just as the fontainian's doom turn out to be the result of a whale and not "Heavenly Principles", it seem more logical that the principles are rule design to insulate the world from "dangers beyond".
@spyrothetimelord
@spyrothetimelord 6 ай бұрын
I continue to appreciate that you make your lore videos peaceful, well paced, and easy to follow ♥︎
@theunlikelygenshingamer
@theunlikelygenshingamer 6 ай бұрын
thank you for continuing to tune in, I'm delighted i have been able to entertain :)
@Navi15
@Navi15 6 ай бұрын
We're getting more info on the First descender and even the third descender. But quickly overshadowing the Second Who Came, also identified as the second throne. To start, I don't think that the "one who came after" and the Second Who Came are the same person. It is mentioned in the Sun and Moon that Second Who Came went to war against the Primordial One which led to destruction across Teyvat and trapping the people of Enkanomiya underwater. Unfortunately they lost and the outcome of the fight meant that the Primordial One "could no longer use their absolute authority to suppress the original order of this world." which he then worked with the "one who came after" to create the gnosis from the 3rd descender's remains. Now whether the 3rd descenders death took place during or after the war between Primordial One and Second Who Came remains unknown. Who even is the "one who came after" if they are not considered a descender. So my personal timeline is as follows: - Primordial One arrived in Teyvat - Goes to war against the Dragon Sovereigns and defeats them - Created the 4 shades - Primordial One and the phanes formed Teyvat - "one who came after" arrived - Second Who Came also arrived around this time - Second Who Came goes to war against the Primordial One (Now this is gonna be a hot take but..) - The Third descender is also part of this war and gets killed - The Heavenly Principles and "one who came after" created the gnosis from the remains of the 3rd descender - Archon War takes place to establish order that was lost during the previous war - The twins arrived after - Dragon King returns and brings Forbidden Knowledge. - The Cataclysm happens - Twins tries to escape but gets slapped by the Sustainer
@MrEagorath
@MrEagorath 3 ай бұрын
I think "One who came after" is the spawn of the first decender and second who came is the 3nd decender.
@Minjoie
@Minjoie Ай бұрын
Razor language : - 1 descender enters - war against dragons ( all dragons and their king dragon was nibelung ) - won the war and created the shades. - then, nibelung went out side of teyvar to gain knowledge - he came again but lost his power and authority. So he is 2nd descender - then, he fought against 1st descender, lost and 1st made nibelung dividend into gnosis - then 3rd came, got into war ( idk maybe they get killed / removed ? ( hot take, it's arlecchino since she is glitches ) - then 4th descent ( siblings ) came but DAMN GOT BUTT SLAPPED.
@hazaubel6532
@hazaubel6532 6 ай бұрын
Unrelated but like GIRL! your voice is just perfect for narrating ❤ low-key makes your vids more enjoyable
@theunlikelygenshingamer
@theunlikelygenshingamer 6 ай бұрын
Well thank, thank you very much 😊
@athystic
@athystic 6 ай бұрын
This actually makes me want to focus on the story more because most of the time I just skip quests because all I only want are the primogems 😭😭
@theunlikelygenshingamer
@theunlikelygenshingamer 6 ай бұрын
Music to my ears 😁. I want everyone to be able to enjoy this intriguing, if sometimes, convoluted story. Hope you stop by for the next one!
@theanglerfish
@theanglerfish 6 ай бұрын
you missed a whole purpose of this game
@athystic
@athystic 6 ай бұрын
@@theanglerfish well tbh I did find the story exciting and fun when I first started but then later on it just got confusing and boring that I just skip most of the dialogues
@theanglerfish
@theanglerfish 6 ай бұрын
true it´s confusing more than government stuff i must agree and dialogues are sometimes really off the rails despite that archon quests are cool but maybe for some players it will make more sense to do all content or important parts of it after this game will be finished and if i were new i will do that way meanwhile i will build characters and enjoy environment and graphics but i gone too far into it so...yea i don´t understand that story either🤣@@athystic
@Jazzatic2011
@Jazzatic2011 6 ай бұрын
9:12 this literally makes me think of the weapons found in the tower of God. While desirable it seems that it rare for someone to have one of the months which is the weapons. But if anyone has more than 1 it seems it has a certain effect. Which the controll and the mention of devouring of one another fits that storyline.
@gotamibudou
@gotamibudou 6 ай бұрын
i like istaroth, like how she made indirect influnece with other archons. how rukkha created nahida? how focalors created her human side? probably, its istaroth powers
@nolandzur
@nolandzur 6 ай бұрын
Is paimon one of the shades? There is still a huge question mark on her. She seem to forgot about her origin or successfully fooling everyone. The fact that no one is questioning where she is from, altough no one ever saw a floating creature of her race is strange.
@theunlikelygenshingamer
@theunlikelygenshingamer 6 ай бұрын
Paimon is quite literally scary sometime when you consider what we don't know about her. And considering the fact that its been demonstrated that most of the primordial gods who fought in the archon war had Ars Goetia equivalents to their names and Paimon has one too, then she must be some tiny god in disguise or who has become amnesiac. I think at least someone like Zhongli would know but is again bound by contract not to even hint at her identity. And im inclined to believe she really doesnt know. But i dont think she is a shade. especially because the shade of time has been active since the story began when she helped Ei. Although the Sakura was planted in the past the outset of it was from now. SO istaroth is very much active now.
@freshacado4304
@freshacado4304 6 ай бұрын
i really think theyre maybe connected to istaroth? istaroth is proven to be kindest out of all of them so maybe theres a lil connection idkkk
@brentwilliamomagap
@brentwilliamomagap 6 ай бұрын
Even though its kinda krack-potty of an idea it could be, I genuinely think that Paimon is a "guoabafied" entity that could be somehow connected with celestia. Its just really odd that our Flying emergency food bears a lot of design details that has symbolism linked with celestia not even to mention that strange line that was said by a melusine that Paimon looks like "A little rainbow balloon floating in the air, and her strings seems to extend upwards, to somewhere above the skies itself". I dunno but that's way too Sus.
@theunlikelygenshingamer
@theunlikelygenshingamer 6 ай бұрын
@@brentwilliamomagap oh I totally agree that Paimon is not with significant mystery, like for example what did she see when she touched the crystal in Wriotheslets story quest and if Canotila the melusine says that the apocalyptic realm we saw looked like a happy garden to her then does that mean that truly horrible things look happy and nice to her? Could that mean that colorful balloon Paimon is really something awful that we can't see? I so can't wait until they decide to expound on her mysterious background some.
@serikazero128
@serikazero128 6 ай бұрын
@@theunlikelygenshingamer she's probably the thing that fought us at the start, or a proxy of her. And a distorted version. So while normally you'd see an awful distortion and amalgamation of stuff. The opposite would be a colored happy go lucky balloon
@raraavis5418
@raraavis5418 5 ай бұрын
Your voice is so pure and good
@theunlikelygenshingamer
@theunlikelygenshingamer 5 ай бұрын
Thank you 😊
@SaiDeLaRai
@SaiDeLaRai 6 ай бұрын
whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa....this actually makes too much sense. any time a single one of these 'principles' is challenged in a substantial way, the challenger(s) get mollywhopped into oblivion or existential suffering. If you begin to list all of the people who were punished by the Hewvenly Principles, the reasons why correlate pretty heavily with your theory here. 8:00 even the way she captured the twins is a manipulation of space I think Paimon is Istaroth and did something relating to manipupating time that had her punished.
@crystaluwu1012
@crystaluwu1012 6 ай бұрын
Paimon isn't Istaroth, Istaroth is not only God of Time but also God of Winds, she is the Thousand Winds of Time, and we never saw Paimon bend the wind so na, she is very celestial themed actually, she might be a seelie or a spy.
@Zombina638
@Zombina638 6 ай бұрын
No, you obv need to watch aster😂
@jivanjovan
@jivanjovan 6 ай бұрын
Paimon = Primordial One 100 real 👍👍
@ashleyandanime4815
@ashleyandanime4815 6 ай бұрын
@@crystaluwu1012nah, she is definitely at least closely related. Istaroth Statue is also literally paimom but an adult(look at both of their faces bang shape is literally the same and istaroths head has a similar shape) Also wind keeps moving in pause screen, tho apparent that’s the same for hydro as well
@theanglerfish
@theanglerfish 6 ай бұрын
actually maybe it´s only slightly modified model in game file so...we must admit it´s only a game and a lot of models are simply a variation of one so i don´t take this part of theories too seriously anyway who knows...maybe you are right@@ashleyandanime4815
@merlincujoh7811
@merlincujoh7811 6 ай бұрын
Your voice is peak documentary narrator material 👌 So peaceful and calm
@theunlikelygenshingamer
@theunlikelygenshingamer 6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! As a fledgling voice actor I always aspired to do documentaries and narration so for you to say I gave off that vibe is really encouraging. Thank you😁
@phosu5518
@phosu5518 6 ай бұрын
Thank you, many things have cleared up to me now
@theunlikelygenshingamer
@theunlikelygenshingamer 6 ай бұрын
You're very welcome 😁
@locket5279
@locket5279 6 ай бұрын
Great as always. Are you a public speaker in daily life? You have a knack for it. Hope the best for your channel!
@theunlikelygenshingamer
@theunlikelygenshingamer 6 ай бұрын
Thank you!! I'm not actually but I've always had a knack for narration I guess.
@shaykirby5910
@shaykirby5910 6 ай бұрын
Its me guys im the heavenly principles
@Mizora
@Mizora 6 ай бұрын
Give MY SISTER BACK
@nightcoreforyou43
@nightcoreforyou43 5 ай бұрын
Paimon was the primordial One but when the second Came she was defeated and cursed to become a small childish fairy, and she is taking traveler's help to regain throne of Celestia
@theunlikelygenshingamer
@theunlikelygenshingamer 5 ай бұрын
This is apparently the main theory with Paimon, but I think she is a brand new entity that hasn't been mentioned yet.
@nightcoreforyou43
@nightcoreforyou43 5 ай бұрын
@@theunlikelygenshingamer well her clothes how every detail of her clothes matches to structures of Celestia
@davidjohnson8273
@davidjohnson8273 6 ай бұрын
The Heavenly Principles have long been used more or less interchangeably with Celestia and was it around Apep that it was also used of the Primordial One? Well now I'm not sure. Not enough room in my brain to remember not only what is known but when it was known. At any rate the question seemed bound up with the question of who won the war between 1st and 2nd, which was nailed down pretty well by Amethyst Crown. But the other meaning of the Heavenly Principles to actually mean a list of principles has been around too. Not just the name. I have theorized that the principles are linked to the gods' ideals (freedom, contracts, eternity, intransience, wisdom, justice etc) because of the guyun weapon upgrade text, what Ei says about Eternity being closest to the Heavenly Principles, and and recently we learned (new Wings) that when Egeria was created she lacked something that a god must always have, which I suppose was her ideal. It's also possible that Gnoses hand out Visions on the basis of adherence to one of these ideals in addition to ambition. In general the Heavenly Principles appear to me to be part of the way PO takes care of humanity by programing the gods with a need to care for human societies. Now we see with Furina that the human archon has no interest in justice, her ideal, likely because the ideal, the gnosis and the power went with the godly Archon. Possibly Neuvillette ends up in possession of the ideal since he seem much more interested in judging things after 4.2 The other issue of the Heavenly Principles is that René in his notes about descenders suggests each Descender not only has a great Will but some sort of agenda or ambition with respect to Teyvat - to achieve some goal. As such the Heavenly principles would represent that goal for the Primordial One and presumably the shades.
@Dumbledoresarmy13
@Dumbledoresarmy13 6 ай бұрын
I thought the 'Heavenly Principles' was a character, while Celestia is a place? I get like, a dragon or an adeptus being a person and a different creature at will but I think it's a little bit of a stretch to assume an island is also a person. I don't think they've been used interchangeably - the 'Heavenly Principles' is/are the top of the hierarchy, while Celestia is the realm of the gods and probably more vaguely implies the faction that is made up of the Archons and whoever the hell they answer to.
@snudoooftheweafwings2707
@snudoooftheweafwings2707 6 ай бұрын
I don’t think Furina has no interest in her ideal justice, because to Focalors, justice is the continuation of human existence. Furina basically sacrificed everything for her ideal if you look at it in this way. At least, that’s how I see it.
@davidjohnson8273
@davidjohnson8273 6 ай бұрын
a political government unit is often referred to by it's location. eg "Washington" often means the US federal government and not the city. Same for "Celestia" - mostly it means the governing body rather than the physical island. Now maybe -if anyone's in charge at all- maybe they aren't on that island. But still "Celestia" usually means "whoever's in charge right now" as opposed to "Primordial One" who is whoever was in charge back then. And maybe they are the same person or committee / organization. And maybe they aren't, in which case they have some relationship. @@Dumbledoresarmy13
@felipecarvalho864
@felipecarvalho864 6 ай бұрын
amazing video and voice over 🫶🏻
@theunlikelygenshingamer
@theunlikelygenshingamer 6 ай бұрын
Thank you! I'm very glad you enjoyed!
@Minjoie
@Minjoie Ай бұрын
My theory is that LIGHT ELEMENT can use every element Wherever DARK ELEMENT Can Absorb every element. It makes sense, like check traveller and sustainer
@theunlikelygenshingamer
@theunlikelygenshingamer Ай бұрын
This does make sense, like the omni element that Paimon represents in Genius Invocation TCG. And Enjou said that Abyss energy is toxic to elemental beings, probably because it can absorb them.
@Minjoie
@Minjoie Ай бұрын
@@theunlikelygenshingamer yep exactly. Sustainer sucked us in her element or whatever that was and we were surly light element. Why do i think sometome that, starting scene was END OF OUR JOUNEY, each time we fight with her. We lose and she throw us again to starting, and its like once its aether and after lumine. Thats why it doesnt matter which sibling we pick because its like both of us are getting thrown to starting point and we gotta do this till we defeat the sustainer. Thats why venti said, he has seen us imo as well, dont u find it weird how, lumine might be aware of whatever is going on and thats why she ( now she is aware of this situation ) said, we ALWAYS HAVE TIME ( as per past quest, it was revealed that, irminsul can be modified as well memories can be removed soooo im lowkey thinking this is wjat going on, Futui is trying to revive the descender as well trying to burn irminsul and stuff just make sense to me now tbh
@skawflat1115
@skawflat1115 6 ай бұрын
The Sustainer of Heavenly principles is the second descender. First Descender is the primordial one. Third descender was a Dragon sovereign that returned. His remains was used to create the gnosis. Thus are my opinions.
@theunlikelygenshingamer
@theunlikelygenshingamer 6 ай бұрын
Interesting, I look forward to more lore unfolding in future updates to see who is right 😜
@Minjoie
@Minjoie Ай бұрын
Hmm this is kind of interesting
@k.duelist4913
@k.duelist4913 6 ай бұрын
Sins of the Father by Donna Burke t kicks in while watching this great analsis ❤❤❤
@maximus574
@maximus574 6 ай бұрын
Great video.
@TruePersonaGirl
@TruePersonaGirl 6 ай бұрын
I dont understand a single word XD Because the damn game only gives 1x per year Mainstory quest!!! When you do the new one, you already forgot what happend on the previous one. Because of unfinished story telling. full of holes and questions. I hope the new one explains about the Hillichurl face issue.
@light_090
@light_090 6 ай бұрын
still waiting for dansleif
@Kaikouken1
@Kaikouken1 6 ай бұрын
I think we knew who the heavenly principles were by correlating Nahida's dialogue at the end of Sumeru's AQ proper and the Before the Sun and Moon?
@RinaTennojis
@RinaTennojis 6 ай бұрын
couldnt the shades be the herrschers from honkai impact? life -> herrscher of rebirth death -> herrscher of death space -> herrscher of the void (herrscher of the void would also fit for this theory since we see an expy of her in the beginning called ”sustainer of heavenly principles”) reason -> herrscher of reason time -> ????? perhaps paimon
@theunlikelygenshingamer
@theunlikelygenshingamer 6 ай бұрын
I was really beginning to consider this idea, not knowing Honkai Impact that well i wasnt sure if their were enough corresponding Herrschers but its certain worth looking into further.
@Rikoli
@Rikoli 6 ай бұрын
The thing is in HI3 there are 13 Herrschers plus one irregular one. Their titels change sometimes due to the story but their appearance in the world follows a skript. The 13 are Reason, Void, Wind, Thunder, Ice, Flame, Rock, Death, Sentience, Domination, Binding, Corruption and Finality. Plus Origin as the irregular one. This one is the reason why there is a skript. Before her Intervention there were many more and different Herrschers who could spawn from Honkai.
@RinaTennojis
@RinaTennojis 6 ай бұрын
@@Rikoli i mean they dont have to BE the herrschers but i definitely think theyre inspired by them
@ashleyandanime4815
@ashleyandanime4815 6 ай бұрын
@@Rikolibut the thing is we have the herrscher of wind, lightning, void, death, end(?) or origin(?) life, earth/rock, and we also has teriteri tho she’s not actually a herrscher in the for, of the archons and shades. Gods seem to be herrscher equivalents of hi3
@MiniFatRat
@MiniFatRat 6 ай бұрын
Tbh I just think they’re gonna be different versions of Kiana since the shades are essentially clones of each other and the original usurper. Also herrscher of death and rebirth are the same (technically there’s no herrscher of rebirth, that’s just a name vita gave to herrscher of death seele)
@Mafuyu24542
@Mafuyu24542 6 ай бұрын
I always thought Paimon was the primordial one since the icon on her chest and the fact her name has most of the characters from it’s name
@elizabethsolorio9837
@elizabethsolorio9837 6 ай бұрын
She’s definitely from Celestia but primordial one, not likely
@Dorey_X.T
@Dorey_X.T 6 ай бұрын
@@elizabethsolorio9837definitely!! she’s the poster character for the game and games name genshin impact. in chinese it translates to fallen god impact. not to mention the symbol on her chest is the honkai symbol for fake but it’s upside down on her chest to represent her being the real god of teyvat. that and we know phanes has a crown. We in genshin that if you exorcise a lot of power you can become a shell or smaller version of yourself and even lose your memories. I am most certain that’s what happened to paimon
@MiniFatRat
@MiniFatRat 6 ай бұрын
She 100% has ties to celestia but def isn’t the Primpdial one
@wadigkin95
@wadigkin95 6 ай бұрын
Before we begin, What chances are the difference between the Heavenly Principles, and the "Sustainer" of the Heavenly Principles
@theunlikelygenshingamer
@theunlikelygenshingamer 6 ай бұрын
I thought about this and I think that every shade would introduce them self this way to humans. The each are meant to maintain an aspect of these principles so they are each a Sustainer of Those Principles in my opinion.
@mirko1019
@mirko1019 6 ай бұрын
Then who is the sovereign that requested the prediction, and who is the one that allowed them to meet, after being separated by the shade of void?
@nightcoreforyou43
@nightcoreforyou43 5 ай бұрын
I believe Paimon I'd The reincarnation of Primordial One, (not joking)
@theunlikelygenshingamer
@theunlikelygenshingamer 4 ай бұрын
I've noticed this theory going around a bit. It's certainly plausible but I personally think Paimon is something else entirely.
@capellakuro2678
@capellakuro2678 6 ай бұрын
the music really bugs me. would be better if the background music is low or none. its hard to consume what you are saying with this music.
@Daivd1111
@Daivd1111 6 ай бұрын
The primordial one was injured, Paimon/Guoba comparison?
@theunlikelygenshingamer
@theunlikelygenshingamer 6 ай бұрын
That has been a popular theory, my main reason for not agreeing is actually because of the fact that the Primordial one is clearly described as being neither male nor female while Paimon considers herself to be female. However i do believe that she is the regressed form of something I'm just not sure what. I do find it ver interesting that the Primordial one was injured though 🤔
@Minjoie
@Minjoie Ай бұрын
​@@theunlikelygenshingameras a paimon i confirm, im the main evil 🗣🗣
@amouramarie
@amouramarie 6 ай бұрын
That... does seem like a conclusion we should have come to a long time ago, wtf. ;.;
@theultimateliaromakokichi638
@theultimateliaromakokichi638 6 ай бұрын
Gem of Haste(Fire), Gem of Conquest(Thunder), Gem of Serenity(Death), and Gem of Desire(Wind). vs Shade of Life, Shade of Death, Shade of Time, Shade of Void. vs Havria (Goddess of Salt), Decarabian (god of storms), Nabu Malikata (Goddess of flower), Istaroth (god of time and moment) Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse: Famine, Death, Conquest/Pestilence/Plague & War
@theunlikelygenshingamer
@theunlikelygenshingamer 6 ай бұрын
Very interesting comparisons, I do believe every Shade is closely connected to the elements of each archon. That is to say, if the shade of life was over Hydro then she is probably over Dendro as well because both are associated with life. Death is over Pyro as it is universally known as an element of destruction, The time shade would be over Electro and Anemo because eternity is a concept of time and Venti is said to be a thread of the thousand winds which is a name she has. The shade of the void would be related to geo whose current strength is manipulating space through shields and then Cryo whose related to critical hits could be related to the mind. In fact I think the concept of critical hits and damage is because each of those strikes is more intelligently delivered.
@elizabethsolorio9837
@elizabethsolorio9837 6 ай бұрын
@@theunlikelygenshingamerwho’s says they can’t also can’t represent the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse. Makes sense
@Zombina638
@Zombina638 6 ай бұрын
I wish we knew more about the salt god
@theunlikelygenshingamer
@theunlikelygenshingamer 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, she seemed to have been a very gentle soul. You know what would be really neat is if the anime, if it ever came out, expanded on all these people and things like the Archon War.
@olgabutorina4156
@olgabutorina4156 6 ай бұрын
I don't understand why everyone wants to fight Heavenly Principals? I just can't understand it!
@jythromascarinas5328
@jythromascarinas5328 6 ай бұрын
Simple. They are colonizers. No one wants a colonizer. It is recorded through out the history of the world that many wars was the result of colonizing. People want to be free. Same goes with the people of Teyvat.
@lagrangewei
@lagrangewei 6 ай бұрын
@@jythromascarinas5328just as american are colonizer... who cares when everyone benefit from the colonization? the only one who should care are the dragons(native)... the human who came with the colonizers benefit from the colonization....
@hazaubel6532
@hazaubel6532 6 ай бұрын
​​@@jythromascarinas5328not really humans wouldn't exist without them this doesn't make sense
@theunlikelygenshingamer
@theunlikelygenshingamer 6 ай бұрын
I am inclined to agree but I'm thinking that it's going to be revealed that there is something they have done that is not good,or....the archons have demon names for a reason 😈
@renapundarika2135
@renapundarika2135 6 ай бұрын
For the dragons, it's obvious. But for the humans, I have my questions, too. We still don't know why the primordial one came to create teyvat in the first place.
@plushyneko
@plushyneko 6 ай бұрын
From where did you get the lines narrated in the video during 10:58 and 11:20?
@theunlikelygenshingamer
@theunlikelygenshingamer 6 ай бұрын
That is actually from a achievement namecard called Orbits for co-op of all things. Then after recording the script for this video i found out that the Narzissenkreuz Ordo knew of them too im really curious to know who they are
@thebabbynick1543
@thebabbynick1543 6 ай бұрын
This just makes me wonder though. Even with the 7 gnoses would the Tsaritsa really stand a chance at war against the principles?
@theunlikelygenshingamer
@theunlikelygenshingamer 6 ай бұрын
This is what I'm wondering but I have a crackpot theory I'm working on about it. What if the gnosis and the visions are both curses not just the gnosis and the Tsaritsa is manufacturing delusions to arm her people with something the principles can't control and when the time comes with all the "curses" removed out of the way and the whole world, even those deemed not worthy by celestia are armed with delusions and together with archons who are no longer vulnerable from have their gnosis and what ever dragons will join her cause they then wage war with the principles with the intent to over throw them? That would be a phenomenally risky plan but I don't have enough in for to back it up yet.
@thebabbynick1543
@thebabbynick1543 6 ай бұрын
@@theunlikelygenshingamer that’s a wild theory in the best way possible. I hope it’s true though bc then we’d probably get some awesome battle cutscenes 😂
@crimsonrealm7
@crimsonrealm7 6 ай бұрын
Isnt the gnosis, a part of the 3rd decender? so what if connecting them together allows power able to defy the heavenly principles since its decenders are powers outside it
@ashleyandanime4815
@ashleyandanime4815 6 ай бұрын
@@theunlikelygenshingamerI personally think that the gnosis we’re used to limit the archons and perhaps even cause erosion
@fabian518
@fabian518 6 ай бұрын
Looking back, we now know the Gnoses are remnants of the 3rd decender.. The title for Natlan is 'incandeacent Ode of ressurection. Perhaps the Tsaritsa is trying to revive the 3rd decender?
@dheanabila2162
@dheanabila2162 6 ай бұрын
Wait i'm not up to speed, so what is celestia? Who resides there?
@mr.anxiety3858
@mr.anxiety3858 6 ай бұрын
Hi, aether I believe this is the Chanel your sister gave me, the video was great and I had a fun time talking today, if this is the right Chanel lol I’ll definitely keep watching (I’m obviously not gonna say your name as you said you didn’t like it)- Alexis
@theunlikelygenshingamer
@theunlikelygenshingamer 6 ай бұрын
Thank you! I didn't expect you to watch just sub to make her happy but I'm so glad you did😁. I hope you enjoy my upcoming videos as well and thanks again. P. S. You were just as much fun to hang with as my sis said you'd be, glad I came lol. 🙂
@mr.anxiety3858
@mr.anxiety3858 6 ай бұрын
@@theunlikelygenshingamer I’m glad you did too, it was an awesome time! And yes I will continue to watch. I had fun today. See ya around-
@Aimy_arts
@Aimy_arts 5 ай бұрын
Big brother I found you princess jelly bean here I wasn't gonna give up on you that easily lol
@osmial
@osmial 6 ай бұрын
Ok look i get what everyone thinks about Heavenly principles but remember right now we are only getting 1 side of a story we have no idea what the other 2 side's have to tell the 2 being Abyss and Celestia As skirk said a being of higher level is hard to understand for mortals i and surprisingly most of the destruction came because of either humans or the taboo's and humans telling it as if it's celestia's fault The new notes in fontaine talks about the land where khaenri'ah is belongs to all humanity and also solidify Khaenri'ah being related to Evolution My personal guess is khaenri'ah may have cracked the code of evolution trait that dottore is researching the advance human's or close to that Since we know seelie's,hilichurls and monsters used to look different in past teyvat may not even have humans but made into humans in the image of unified civilization which may have felled during war of vengeance
@ikaros_alpha6679
@ikaros_alpha6679 6 ай бұрын
Whole theory/story about Heavenly Principles might be true, but there isn't any hints that "Sustainer of Heavenly Principles" is member of Heavenly Principles itself
@ridhosaputra3936
@ridhosaputra3936 6 ай бұрын
My question is what actually happened to Primordial one personality after fought the 2nd who came in second war At first, based on sun and moon book Primordial one described as peace lover ruler who loving human and his/her other creation... But after fought the 2nd descender(the 2nd who came) his/her personality suddenly have changed drastically -He/she abandoned Enkanomiya for no reason after war -Killed the 3rd descender -Fallen divine nail -Made archons war -Destroyed Khaen'riah -etc Is his/her personality has changed becuz corrupted by abyss energy or forbidden knowledge(Like Apep)?!
@theunlikelygenshingamer
@theunlikelygenshingamer 6 ай бұрын
That's an interesting way to look at it. Though I don't think the personality changed so much as the world changed. I think the 2nd descender who I believe is the King of the Abyss (check out my theory on that in my other video) and that war hasn't really stopped. The nails were to delete the Abyss corruption but they were so powerful they caused a lot of collateral damage. It's possible the reason they hit Khaenri’ah so hard was because they didn't want to have it spread so badly that it warranted the nails again. As for Enkanomiya, I'm still not sure what was the secret they weren't allowed to share why they were left down there. But it did eventually let them come back to the surface in the form of Watatsumi's people. I also think the third descender was complicit in becoming the gnoses. It would be very intereting if the Primordial can be corrupted by the Abyss. The khaenri'ahns observed that both things were on the same power level, which is above elements.
@Spirngie
@Spirngie 6 ай бұрын
Related to the plume of Death, do you think it's Seele Expy? Since she have the stigma of the Herrscher of death and (Spoilers) Later to become one
@theunlikelygenshingamer
@theunlikelygenshingamer 6 ай бұрын
I did not know about this but it seems like a very interesting theory to explore. I cant i would be surprised if the herrshers turned out to be very connected to the shades.
@F1ll1nTh3Blanks
@F1ll1nTh3Blanks 6 ай бұрын
I thought so at one point. actually, I just straight up had a theory of the Shades/current incarnations being: Logos: Phanes = Life: Aria = Rhinedottir? = Asmoday Death: Canon = Columbina = Vedrfolnir Eon: Kairos = Ishtaroth Eonothem: Sonnet = Paimon But in reality, with the exception of Phanes and Kairos.. The rest are complete unknowns. I think the Shade of Death and Life will be bigger presence in Natlan, so maybe it's Columbina as Life and Rhinedottir and Death as Asmoday.. Idk. Hard to say, but there are other factors at play here as well. Like what is Paimon, I am certain she is a Seelie and a daughter/incarnation of the moon sisters of some kind.. but like, idk. Also, what does it mean by the "remnants" being driven to devour themselves and the "moon sisters" turning on each other.. assuming the moon sisters and remnants in some way shape or form are shades.. what happened when they devoured/killed each other. Who lived and who died, did they die permanently or did they get the Guoba treatment.. Idk. So far my possible candidates are Rhinedottir, Asmoday, Barbeloth, Columbina, Welkin?, Paimon and that's really it for now. I also think there's a factor being omitted from this story. Nyx.
@Spirngie
@Spirngie 6 ай бұрын
​@@theunlikelygenshingamer That's not what i am trying to say, I don't think Genshin have any relation to Honkai whatsoever except being in an imaginary tree, I'm just thinking that the Shade of Death is the "Seele of Genshin"
@Spirngie
@Spirngie 6 ай бұрын
@@F1ll1nTh3Blanks I have doubts of Columbina being the Shade of Death, Fatui haven't recruited any gods much less one of THE four Shades of the Primordial one, same goes for Rhinedottir, She did a part in the Cataclysm and it's not the good part, It's not so Primordial shaded for it to do that is it?
@Saymira55
@Saymira55 6 ай бұрын
If the demon name of Tsritsa is Samael we are certain that god is heavenly principle or primordial one while the archons are fallen angels who will go against him later
@elizabethsolorio9837
@elizabethsolorio9837 6 ай бұрын
It’s not. In the beta venti had a voice line where he called her Barnabas.
@Saymira55
@Saymira55 6 ай бұрын
@@elizabethsolorio9837 is Barnabas a demon from Ars Goetia ?
@ashtiboy
@ashtiboy 6 ай бұрын
okay we all should know at this pont pimon is space shade of the henvly precables or is at or is derectly realated to them from like over 10 difrents ways now . this iss very obius pimon is space shade themd head to toe. pimon foats like in space, she has a astral conlation stlyed cape. her lay lines are drectly seen to be giong into outer space. every times she moves or is in view we see that she bascly sheds new star contaions conslty flying out everywhere. so HOW MANY F**** times i'm giong to say that pimon is the space shade eareht being the shade themselfs that suffered the same issues that naeda and other gods have sufferd or is late least a next of kin or offsprnge of them somehow. its very very very very obvius. liek i'm ginog to say this pimon is the F**** linch pin of the endgame for crying oput loud. its giong to happen like it or not. so what i'm saying in a nuthshell is thers only two posablys here. pimon is eather the space shade themslefs or there a drectly related offspring that is giong to take the orngals place. like theres so much setup to this pont that i'm seeing the plot twist miles away bescue this how basic story telling works here you know.
@pajeetsingh
@pajeetsingh 6 ай бұрын
Their? Is he multiple person?
@theunlikelygenshingamer
@theunlikelygenshingamer 6 ай бұрын
In the book Before Sun and Moon the Primordial is described as being androgynous (meaning not clear whether they areale or female) so they are always referred to as they.
@xoradato
@xoradato 6 ай бұрын
_La usurpadora_
@SERIAL_DESIGNATION_DRONE_A
@SERIAL_DESIGNATION_DRONE_A 6 ай бұрын
Huhhh....
@cringecompilation8105
@cringecompilation8105 6 ай бұрын
Nothing new has been said in this video, only repeating already known stuff, and most of this we knew for years. Only people who would find this video usefull is new players who didnt follow the lore
@cringecompilation8105
@cringecompilation8105 6 ай бұрын
I watched the whole video yes, and dont think of this as a hate comment its just a fact 😊
@kevaughnbernard9938
@kevaughnbernard9938 6 ай бұрын
You sound Jamaican
@theunlikelygenshingamer
@theunlikelygenshingamer 6 ай бұрын
I'm thoroughly impressed. I in fact am Jamaican. 😁
@kevaughnbernard9938
@kevaughnbernard9938 6 ай бұрын
@@theunlikelygenshingamer I knew it I know a Jamaican when I hear one
@groovyfx6326
@groovyfx6326 6 ай бұрын
When you say fragments of primordial at 9:42 whom are you referring to?
@theunlikelygenshingamer
@theunlikelygenshingamer 6 ай бұрын
The various gods who existed before they were killed in the archon war. They were over elements that are not considered eligible to become visions. Havria was from liyue over salt, Guizhong, Zhongli's old friend was over dust. Decarabian was Mondstadts previous god and so one.
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