queens resident here, and I can confirm that “stark expo” is actually the us open tennis courts held in flushing meadow park in queens, New York

the creative director did say they had to cut a LOT of content

I just assumed the out of bounds areas would be accessible with future DLC

I've been there! So many of the physics are in tact, some glitchy cars too. Spent a good 2 hours exploring. Figured it's just primed for dlc

2:16 I think this is the island where we see kravens first scene could’ve been planned to be an explorable area but was left out of the map.

4:59 - In an interview, the creative director said they took a while to think about how much of the city to give players to explore. I'm betting that they decided that they would close off part of the area by making it an offset as a detail from a distance. That way the buildings covered up areas with less or no detail. Besides, why open up a larger part of the map if plot-wise or activity-wise nothing is going to happen there? By doing so, they saved time and resources.

You can also use the floating chair glitch to hop over the invisible wall. Much easier than the train pushing you out

Did you hear that on March 7th, Marvel spider man 2 update.

There is some thing I noticed, there is at least one location that is just removed from the map. An entire loading dock that is in Miles Moralez that is not in here. Did anyone else notice any other inconsistencies?

Maybe its cut content or content that will be finished for a later DLC? The jungle-like area maybe is where the cutscene where Kraven and that hunter takes place? it kinda looks like it.

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I won't lie, that's actually pretty dam interesting 🕷🤟🕸

Thank you for showing this to us. im gonna try this out for myself

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my theory about the outside of the map is like you know how theres the lizard chase scene? and other chases or swings in the city. Thats what those cities are for, basically just areas u can only access through missions

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The major island in the top right is north brother island, I’m not sure if south brother island is there or whatever the other islands are but yeah

I think the island with the vegetation was going to be used for the bossfight against kraven, it would have been better in my opinion

I just assumed they were saving it for dlc content

I think the new game plus update patched the train glitch. You now die when the train kicks you out of the map.

My thoughts: Adding the new area for a "Silk" spinoff And also, they loosely detail the left hand side of the map so I guess we will get the other side in SM3

The DLC’s in March 7, 2024 will unlock that part of the map and the other part of the map will be locked unless we make a big update

The map areas we can't reach by natural means, will most likely be unlocked in DLC's. I believe one of those will be Carnage, probably Silk too.

My guess is that since you can see the neighborhood from the distance they wanted it to be as detailed as the rest to not break immersion, that's why there's traffic and pedestrians and solid buildings. Near the Queens area where you said the buildings don't exist, there's a road where you can walk on that also has traffic and pedestrians, and that's where they all backtrack to come back into the playable area.

If you're really good you can go in the air and spam triangle (web wings) and square (air tricks) simultaneously and repeatedly use the air abilities to constantly gain heights and escape the map. That's usually how I do it. Pro tip symbiote suits make this air ability method easier. It's also nice because you can reach the islands behind the area that the mission with Yuri takes place in that you went to in the video but also glide into the other out of bounds area. (By the way the buildings on that island are fully collisioned the air ability method helps with exploring them better as you can gain height to get ontop of them. Also the models of the buildings seem to be from the console versionof web of Shadowsbut running in the Insomniac Spiderman 2 engine.) Also you may be interested to know but the space college is the exact model from the ultimate Spiderman game. A lot of the out of bounds models that have collision in some areas are from old Spiderman games. Which makes sense as Insomniac did the same thing in the first game. As all the bridges out of bounds in Insomniac's Spiderman 1 were actually from different games such as Spiderman 3, Spiderman 4 (unreleased game), the Amazing Spiderman 1 and 2 games, ultimate Spiderman and web of Shadows. Now of course they can't admit that for various reasons but i think it's neat that they use some models from older Spiderman games and revamp them a little because in a way it means a piece those games live as apart of their game. One more thing the place you believed to be the "Stark expo" (it's actually the college comic Spiderman went to. The Stark expo was in the dome object next to the stadium.) actually has collision around it and those blue tennis courts are from Rami Spiderman 1 game, they also have collision and that stadium has secret tennis courts in the center of it. Honestly that area actually has collision in more places than you think including the baseball and soccer feilds. Though the dome has wonky collision with two collision boxes fighting each other.

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Oh, man... this makes me *SUPER EXCITED* for this game to drop on *PC!!*

I don’t see any reason why all of this can’t be unlocked with some paid dlc, letting the missions in those stories have really unique feeling missions

I think that area is used to reset some assets before they're recycled back into the game, like cars and people. I can't remember what game it was, but they used one of the in game buildings to reset assets over and over. This is most likely the case here

You can access the areas outside the playable map using the height glitch and glide.

jokes on you, ive already got there, also the chair glitch is a lot easier to get out of the map with

You can leave the map by using the flying chair glitch too. They didn't think you'd go that high so the barrier doesn't exist.

2:20 that might be where they stored the zoo map from the mission where you get the symbiote

The island that you visited first after leaving the map im pretty sure was the place where peter got the symbiote

I think it’s possible that if this wasn’t in 2 they might reuse these assets for 3 and make this an extension of Brooklyn to make the map even a little bit bigger, but who knows I mean I think the map size is good for the next game too it’s just so big you know

That island could have been where we first saw kraven

I’m actually playing the game looking for a video to listen too and i’m there right now as I write, love glitches in games.

had feeling at the game the Devision, before the first DLC v came out you could glitch out the map and there was stuff like this npcs etc months later the first dlc made this area accassable

I've noticed the exact same thing - possibly space for dlc?

It would be awesome if it got added in the DLC down the line

I agree with TheShaneGuy...seems like it's for future DLC.

Theres other places I can reach with the slingshot aand webwings and it says I'm leaving the playable area. The statue of liberty is one of them

I'm pretty sure that the jungle area you found was were the Kraven introduction cutscene happened

Maybe this is going to be unlocked in dlc? Just a thought I’ve got no clue. I think since there’s so much life back there Insomniac could be planning for a whole new chunk of land to be unlocked in the dlc or in later updates.

I feel like that jungle has something to do with the first bit of kraven when he kills that guy

it would be nice to see the rest of queens two

4:23 We might be able to go in this area in the next game

o really do hope they add this to the game

Maybe we could go to the Tennis court during a mission in Queens in the DLC.

2:33 I think this is the same area we see when we see kraven for the first time since he was in a jungle like this one

Horizon Zero Dawn map should be 50 times bigger, so that's why there are a lot of free space in out of bounds area. In Spider-Man 2 the same story. Let's just enjoy the main map.

Maybe dlc or this is where silk/Cindy Moon lives because in the credits that’s Rio’s boyfriends daughter AKA her soon to be stepdaughter

The “stark expo” is just a tennis stadium

Well, Spider-Man and Miles Morales but had a thorough game with each story going somewhere, whether it was a dlc or teaming up for some shenanigan in the end... I have a feeling Insomniac is doing the same here. I hate to be proved wrong, cuz I defended SQUARE ENIX the same way for the delays in Avengers but we all know how that turned out

Part of what I think it is is just that Without this the transition to the low poly buildings would be very jarring. This doesn't look like cut content to me, just a quickly thrown together area that makes use of actual building models, car and pedestrian ai, and more to make the visual transition from the playable area to out of bounds look smooth

This is used to make it so there isnt just a cutoff with those textures you can see if you go far out of bounds.

2:57 Arthur Ashe!

Let’s hope there saving it for dlc

It’s probably them saving stuff for dlc

March 7th could maybe introduce this part of the map.

Think it might be Chelsea? 2:13 I think that's just Upstate New York

That wooded area to the north with that big house is obviously the x-mansion

Hm I doubt it. So- for starters I think sure MAYBE it was intended to be a playable area originally, but I don't think they kept it in as a DLC possibility for starters it's just not that big enough of an area to warrant such a thing, ultimately it's just more insignificant buildings to swing around there's no particular added charm like- it doesn't visually stand out from anything we've already got. And it wouldn't be a great precedent to set either so- I'd like the dream of it being DLC later just die now. Second (novice game dev here) likely what happened if it originally HAD been a planned area it was just left in for practicality there's no real reason to delete it so they just left it, it clearly looks unfinished with floating cars ect. And third which I think COULD be what's going on is it was built out and never intended to be playable they just wanted the added detail, and cars and people are procedurally generated so- no duh they'd still spawn there, this could explain why some are floating if the area wasn't created with this in mind yeah some wonky bugs would appear, also because of how assets work it's not shocking the different sound effects functions still work, you don't have to program each burrow/area that's not how this works guys. Basically if I had to guess people and cars spawn in people have a few randomly chosen personality patterns, the lights are coded to alternate or randomly change and the "actors" (cars, ect) adjust their behavior based on those results so again- that's why it would still function, but- totally possible it was intended to be an original part of the map, I'm just saying there's tools that could explain why it's so detailed even if that wasn't the case, interiors again are randomly generated. If I had to GUESS a lot of the buildings in-game are individual sort "stock" models that were sort of just placed and then tweaked manually. So in this case again- totally could have just been built for the added detail because of how close it is to the mainland and some of those NPC stuff is just- the result of what the game does normally, or like you said it had planned on being playable, but was scrapped. I think either way I doubt it'll become accessible through DLC.

I just spam the triangle button, hold square, and use the dash and jump to go out of bounds

I fink this location can take a place in new dlc's like witcher blood and vine.

I am not saying that it may never be used in dlc but some of the things you are saying aren't how games work. Alot of games have areas like this for testing different features. Also physics and swing points are usually at the asset prefab level and not just decided separately in regions. So for example you have a tree asset that you allow the player to swing from, you just duplicate that over and over again with that built in. This is why most of those asset do what you expect them to do because they already exist within the playable game world. Other things may have been cut for later content but the mere fact that the building do what you expect buildings to do is not hard evidence

Love your accent, where are you from mate?

If Sony let them cook for as long as they needed we might’ve had these areas playable

I hope it’s unlockable in dlc

That big house where the trees are possibly could be where the X mansion will be the wolverine game is in the same universe as spidey but we haven’t seen the mansion yet

i feel like this map is planned for the DLC!

I tried this glitch and got over 30000 meters away from the furthest part of the map

My theory is that the OOB area will just be dlc

Maybe they want to leave some stuff out so we get new content on marvel’s venom or spiderman 3

Later release or ran out of time because Sony wanted it out before it was finished...?

Whats funny is i found all of this but my dumbass thought everyone already knew about it

Sadly they've fixed the train glitch... does anyone know a different way to get out of bounds?

DLC: Carnage DLC: Black Cat DLC: Chameleon

That's star lads from the flash series

How cool would it be if we not only got a bigger map through DLC but got to play Venom some more in open world? Hmmm? Hmmm? JS!

Cinogard original Spider-Man 2

Cool very cool

Could all be dlc areas?

the explanation is not as interesting i believe. The other side of the map is a river and therefore does not require much details, however there isnt a large plan of water or something to create distance in between the outside of the map and the playable area. for that reason i believe that this area serves as a tampon in between the playable area of brooklyn and the out of bound part. as for the amount of detail you have to realize that most of these are what we call prefab in the industry. therefore each model like the fan for example comes with the wind sound by default.

Considering how rushed this game is they'll probably bring it back in one of the three dlcs.

Rip to this glitch

You forgot to visit lady liberty out of bounds 😮

Oh, my god. Okay: NORTH BOTHER ISLAND (containing the old smallpox hospital) and FLUSHING MEADOWS CORONA PARK. Is it that hard to look at a map? Yes the Stark Expo was there but it’s a real place and there aren’t “futuristic centres” They’re just poorly rendered sports stadiums. Moreover, the reused buildings will of course have the interior because they’re not literal interiors, they’re parallaxed onto the 2D assets of all of the buildings. They aren’t unique, they’re the product of the game’s code so when they reuse assets and paste them out of bounds, they’ll still contain that effect. I can let that go, whatever. But you really should look at a map for 2 minutes instead of talking out of your ass. You’re not discovering secrets of the expo, you’re just being lazy. There are no futuristic convention centres. Sorry if I’m coming off as harsh, but if you’re going to try and present facts to tens of thousands of people, you need to do even the slightest bit of research and not just make it up as you go along. If you don’t know: find out, don’t just invent answers.

maybe these places will be accessible in Spider Man 3

The hidden areas might be for spiderman 3

Guese this means there's a content update incoming

It may be that this environment may unlock with DLC. That's the hopeful cope speaking.

its probably for dlc's.

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I think it’ll be a dlc area I mean why else would they make that area part of the map

In the wed wings i glitched into a building and i cant get out. I had 3 more trophies left for the platinum

great video but the gameplay shown in the video looks extremely laggy and honestly bothers my eyes, but other than that great find

DLC?

1:18 where is this from

why does this man sound like he has his nose clogged