Lol thanks for the shoutout at the beginning. I had a few pieces of supplementary info, hopefully people find it helpful. The total amount of time for Chun's low mk cancel window is 18f. There's 13f to early cancel (this is the same as Ken low mk xx jinrai, which is pretty hard to confirm reliably). Then there's 3 dead frames, where you cannot cancel at all. Then another 2f at the end to finish out the 18f window. Because it's pretty hard to confirm low mk in the initial 13f window, and you can't cancel in the dead window, every Chun aims to land their super cancel inputs in the last 2f. This is known as "late cancel." It also means that unlike most supers, it's possible for your cancel inputs to be too late AND too early. If you cancel your inputs at the end anywhere but those 2f, no super will come out. You can't link low mk into super. It's typically -1 on hit, and only has 2 active frames, so you'll never have enough frame advantage to link it into super. If you see a super come out late and still hit, they probably just cancelled in the late cancel window. In 3rd Strike the UI elements update 1f faster than the character animations. So it's slightly easier to watch the score, lifebar, or stun to get an extra frame to confirm. But in intense footsies situations you can't always spare the moment to look up at the UI, especially on arcade cabinets where the screen is very large and right in your face. So it's something you can do for sure, but probably only when you're confident your opponent won't be moving (her post SA2 set play for example is a really easy situation where you can watch the lifebar). The ability to hit confirm is not what makes Chun players strong or successful, it's just a prerequisite for playing her. If you can't hit confirm at all, it'll be hard to have success with her vs strong opponents. But just learning to hit confirm will not be enough. Ground game, neutral control, and playing around your opponent's parry are a few of the things that separate strong and middling Chuns from each other. The way you tried on hard mode at the end is similar to how I practice these days when I have time for training mode, because it most closely emulates real world experience. Game audio off, listening to distracting noise in my headphones, turn on random guard/hit/parry and only super on hit, watch the character sprite and not the UI, and practice vs both crouching and standing opponents. Of course you can't emulate tourney nerves, which as we saw at Frosty, hit everyone hard no matter what, and everyone will miss a few things even if they do it well in casuals or training mode. Thanks for the video.

she is a fair character online.... Offline though...

It would be really cool to see this kind of challenges with other characters too, it also gives a way for new players to know something they can try and do to get better

Dude when the arcade noises turned on it got me. Love the challenges and character breakdowns you've been doing. Keep up the good work man!

I love the energy and expertise JM always brings. Most (not all of course) really knowledgeable gamers are kinda douchy or don't tend to articulate well and explain things thoroughly. This guy here? True Legend in my opinion. Generating interest isn't easy and you do it flawlessly. Hat's off good sir!

Something about sprite-based fighting games really does it for me, old KoF games, old SF games - all about that, more please

I thought you were going to try and "Let's go, Justin!" @11:40 lol

Imagine a world where Twelve was as good as Chunli simply because he could also confirm his super with all his normals too

Yo great video man! I love these sort of challenge/analysis videos

The timing of this is pretty funny for me; I bought the sf anniversary collection yesterday on pc to do the daigo parry. Love your content JM!

You are a far far better player than I will ever be, but I love how watching your face at 17:55 i can tell we share the same belief that the harder you press the buttons, the stronger the attack.

"Chun doesn't have to jump, she controls the neuch" *immediately jumps into the corner*

To hit confirm Chun’s super your looking for that smoke that comes from the confirm, soon as you see it perform the super, if there is no smoke, then no super, I know people that can do it just by the sound it make when you get the hit.

I dig your content and energy. Keep em coming 👍

Looking at the Fightcade status bar and realizing that even JM is considered "C" rank has me feeling like I'll never catch up in this game, lmao. I'm trying to learn it now and my inputs and reactions are just not clean enough.

i dont even play street fighter but this was still a really interesting video. a similar thought process could be applied to "op/broken" things in numerous games.

Nice commentary on the Frosty Faustings TvC tournament !

I think it was ultradavid that was telling the story of when Capcom sent a beta arcade cab to wherever they all used to play and it was Mr wizard (yes the same one that was getting up to all sorts of harrassment shenanigans) that gave them the feedback that Chun's normals didn't have enough range.

jmcrofts you’re awesome dude keep up the good videos.

While the crouch medium kick>super combo is very important for chun li I think you're overfixating on it. She has several other ways to confirm into it like from back heavy punch, close heavy kick, standing and crouching light punch etc. She also has one of the best supers to whiff punish with as it's very fast and has lots of invlun to get through fireballs or more active buttons

I dig the confirm worms! So satisfying to get the hit confirms!

Love your videos bro!

Oh shot I was just at Frostys! Great weekend wish I could’ve seen you

“We don’t wanna super if they parry because that’ll get you blown up” oh if only it were so simple XD. I’m a chronic eater of chun-li super 2 after parrying crouch medium kick

The background arcade noise should have the classic ULTRA COMBOOOO!!!! yelled every once in a while.

U know we like that old school fighting game content. Facts

The first and only time I've beaten the game from beginning to end for SF3 was with Chun Li. She's not my character, but for some reason, I could beat Gill on my first try, which I normally can't do with any other character.

Ive never played a fivhting game and all content ive seen was with different audio om top of it, so this is the first time i hear actual in game audio and all i gotta say is WHY HAS NOBODY TOLD ME ABOUT THIS SICK ASS BREAKCORE BEAT GAWDAMNN

Chun Li with super 2 is like bringing a knife to a fist fight. It's not quite a gun, but it's still scary. Things ago fine until she gets super, then you can't throw projectiles and her pokes can result in you bleeding out 40% of your health.

I LOVE the fact you don’t just test it out in practice but also against real live opponents As well know what makes fighting against people way more interesting than cpu ever will be is the unpredictable nature of human beings I like your scientific method 👍

This video really goes a long way to explaining what was happening in that Moment 37 series

Akuma is a demon that fights with sandals on ... but Ken and Ryu don't? Akuma must have tender or ticklish feet🤔

great vid

How do you actually jump and then hit right after the super?

I dont even play fighting games but I watch his content all the time.

Personally, I would say yes Chun Li is very easy to pick up and win especially if you're already familiar with 3s fundamentals. Back when I was playing with my older bro, Chun was banned as a first pick and we decided she could only be selected if one of us was in a losing streak Yun, also a top tier requires more work to really show that he's a top tier due to Genei Jin setups Justin Wong showed a video of him winning a casual match using only one button, mk. That's how easy she is to use.

She's not broken. She's a goddess. ❤

4:54 Justin knows :\

I can relate to playing with those arcade noises haha

LET'S GO JUSTIN!

So to cancel crouching MKick, or anything really, into super, do you qcf MKick but hit it MK early so it hits while crouching, then do it again to cancel? That's how I've learned it recently it's just hard to be consistent with it since I do mess it up/I can't react fast enough to notice the block and go into it. I also see ppl canceling into super from standing back heavy punch but I cannot find a video/anything that helps.

Yeah, God Tier Chun will be shown in the 3rd Strike Event at Evo 2024 This year. I CAN'T WAIT for low forward, super x 10000 and genei-jin x 10001. Yay HYPE -_-

W/ the arcade sounds is crazy LOL

Thanks

*I was hoping this went in depth like your (I believe it was Sean video)

guys why does fightcade log me out during games? Cuz i hate it when it disconnects me during the match

some guy : "the daigo parry is easy" me: "in the real world you don't have 50 people screaming in your back and 1 guy shouting lets go justinnn"

I noticed if you go frame by frame during the training mode segments, the damage and points tally seems to be registering 2 frames before the kick actually connects. What's up with that? Is it a quirk of 30th or something?

I always had trouble hit confirming Alex's low medium kick into Super but Chun's never gave me a problem.

LETS GO JUSTINNN

Not going to watch the whole video, but just want to say that a trick to hit confirming her cr. MK into super is to watch the stun bar. Trying to tell if a character got hit is not as easy as seeing the red bar spike up.

I think that crazy guy who had to main Alex can avoid all tries to make this super art spam 😆

When I see the thicc I do the click. 😉 Kidding, good stuff here. Analysis style videos are always fun to watch even if it's not a game I play on the regular

I play chun, no combos (bc my laptop wont let me theres sum issues) and hit confirms are sleek and easy

Chun in third strike is not the only top tier character, but compared to a high effort character like Yun you can easily see how she's relatively low effort.. allowing for more focus on gameplan, hit-confirms, etc.

I am a fan of Chun Li in Power Rangers Battle for the Grid. Can you talk about her in that game?

I searched up Chun SA3 and this video popped up 😂

Nah man, watch the hand. At least for Ryu and Ken if the hand is in front it is a block or parry and if it isn't there they got hit. Still hard, and visuals change from character to character.

Chun li Love

the arcade noises lmao

Jwong may be interesting...

I am not able to do any combo as her! She is so hard

ggs

Nothing better than beating Chun players q and making them rage quit. When that happens I tell them what it feels like to lose to an 8 year old lol

I’m here too

Love tha real world simulation 😹😂😂😂🤣

Chun and yun are definitely OP and needed nerfs. At least yun though is hard and requires a lot of work to win with. I don't think any character is brain dead to win with, but chun is pretty easy relative to everyone else. Just her pokes + super outclass everyone else. Her crouch fierce goes like halfway across the screen. lol

Aaa I am new to this game is he playing on fightcade

*cough* except when fighting Daigo *cough*

Who do you main?

Something I haven't seen does Chun have spining bird still??

Cr. Mk.

It blows my mind this game STILL isn't on steam. EDIT: 3S:OE

How to stop this shenanigans

I see thighs I main

LET'S GO JUSTIIIIIIN--I mean ... eh, whatever.

Yun is actually a lot better overall.

How exactly is this a hidden technique ?

Yes, you can late cancel her medium kick. No it doesn't matter, you can straight up link the super after the medium kick fully recovers.

Esse jogo é bom, mas muito desbalanceado

While i don't disagree, this is another FGC term that you should have included in that video explaining esoteric fighting game terms and people using them incorrectly. Like i said i dont disagree in this case it just made me think that i have probably seen yt videos calling pretty much every character at one point or another "broken". So i guess the entire cast is broken? Same with SSF2X. They're all broken. Everytime a character has say an overpowered single move, or a glitch or anything that isn't perfectly neutral balanced, they are "broken". I think the whole term is just way overused and incorrectly used. A good example of an actual broken character i think would be Akuma in ST. But just because claw or Sagat is strong doesn't mean they're broken.

Is it cr.MK into super OS? If so, not a secret.

I see one big mistake with this video. Your arcade sound effects are missing the Colossus yell.

First!

thought this was gonna be about sggk lol

first viewer, i think

U JUSS WANA SEE UP CHUNGIS SKIRT

Sggk?

I thought without SA2 she was crap

She killed a potentially great game imo.

She still cant beat your krillin tho

It’s funny how strong female characters are considered over powered. In my experience it’s usually male players. But why don’t they complain about male characters being over powered ? Chun li is and always will be the FFOSF! First female of super street fighter! And wining male opponents hate it!!! She is the FACE of street fight and they have seriously been trying to dumb her down every evolution while pumping up male characters!

The other guy is just kinda crap at the game.

I refuse to subscribe you cant make me

I dont care