Planagrams are an absolute nightmare if your running a smaller than average store from a big corporate chain. You have to carry around a huge printoff everyday of every stupid little change that someone on high has decided has to take place during the precious moments before a store opens. All the designs are for average stores, and there is never enough space for everything so hard decisions have to be made. Then a brand representative or a regional manager makes a surprise visit and writes up your store in failing despite the fact that they are requesting a literally impossible demand. Eventually you learn which products nobody checks on but it seems absurd that someone is getting payed very well to sit in a office "designing" something that whilst looking nice to the manufacturers has little to no bearing on implementing such designs into the real world.

@@cattysplat its called money everyone wants it so they'll lie to big companies even if its impossible to implement in real life. They dont care they just want money and leave you to deal with it like every other job in the world

OI U BETTER PUT MY STUFF THERE PROPERLY OR ILL GET U

i know what exactly what you mean, my family owns convenience stores and when we get big brand products the supplier comes in to check if it is displayed properly and with advertisement that is meant to be displayed.

Same I worked at Kroger and people would come in to take pictures of items. I thought they were apart of Kroger but I know realized they were sales reps

and then it is over and you continue binge watching these random videos

Just like the last Lord of the rings

Yep.

Lol same

I keep thinking you are the One True King of the Seven Kingdoms.

Cookies and cream "It is also a type of ice cream"

"Slutting fees"

Gretchen Trouble A

ok

you can eat it with your mouth

@nothere_2017 Not everyone goes to marketing school, dear.

Ionlymadethistoleavecoments not just ice cream, what they said is true for every kind of product.

The profit margins must be razor thin at this point. =( They already have to pay a lot to develop, produce, package, and market their food but also to even get them allowed on store shelves? I like Whole Foods and Costco's approach of testing out different products on store shelves for free. Let consumers and sales determine if your product is good enough, not how much you're willing to "bribe" the grocers.

there are a lot more obvious one with most of it given the dairy industry lol

They don't make you do anything ✌🏼✌🏼

buy online, although even online some brands pay to be put at the top of the list

thier other videos are just as good and well as this its just u when u do not like a subject u get defensive and see thier point less or ignore it .

C4nadian agree with you

No, because if they made a video praising Reagan and saying nothing bad about him I'd be just as mad. Bias is wrong no matter who it's supporting.

Mugen 10/10

+C4nadian funny you should say that... Because i just subbed after watching this one....

Clide Gearden what are you talking about

mukhtar yusuf It's a joke about how some KZfaqrs get sponsored by companies in exchange for showing their products. Here, Vox has shown a product by the fictional Generic brand.

“Only truly amazing people can see the quality of generic brand. It is so generic that it’s not generic” - some basic white name

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i love this channel cause honestly they report things i didn't even know existed

srba filipovic dang...

You're committing a war crime.

yes a federal felony

skomrex jebacina no, just pissing off people like me who have to clean up after you.

lol you guys are hilarious

PRAISE THE LAB

Cody'sLab blech

Walter's special Crystal-clear blue cotton candy Ice cream.

You could say that ice-cream is quite *addictive*

(So delicious) It’s vegan ice cream it’s actually good

Groden same nothing biases about this

Vox subscriber logic factual political video=biased non political video=factual,non-biased

there will always be facts and evidence for both sides of an argument. Vox tends to lean democratic which can be annoying if its constantly in your face

Or maybe Democrat's views are more nearly correct and consistent than republican's. There's a right and a wrong; Republicans get angry when the facts are brought up and call it "bias", no it's just the truth.

there is no right or wrong when it comes to politics. every one has to come to thier conclusion based on the represented facts. and when your only feed information to make lean in a certain directions there's a problem. I have no problem with hearing facts that question my stand and vice versa. thats why its annoying when vox only posts pro democrat anti republic videos because there significant problems with both sides

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Heh you didn't invite me to the party :(

Nice 1

Keerthana Gurushankar You need to look generic

Keerthana Gurushankar At the Generic Store in Generic Town in a Generic Country who is located on a generic planet.

Keerthana Gurushankar​ lmao, You look like a Hindu Octavia Spencer

Your Neighbor In a generic universe

OverLordthe 1st lol! I googled it .

I'm afraid to say, thats it's almost the same... at the end is just money A BUNCH OF IT, and if a store is getting a lot from it, it will continue...

It’s probably the same for a lot of countries.

Nathanael Crawford contextual

Walmarts don't do this for all their products, I've worked for a logistics company that contracts small trucking companies to bring shipments of Colgate products to Walmart locations in the last year

A DSD is different from a trucking company carrying the product to the store. A DSD(Aka a vendor) owns the product and sells them to their group of stores(aka a "route). Its akin to a franchise owner of a restaurant. DSDs also stock the product themselves and work with the stores to coordinate displays.

I was just thinking that exact thing.

Maybe you didn't buy ice-cream. Happened to me - I was wondering why the ice-cream tasted weird and almost too creamy - then I looked on the package and saw "frozen dessert". Not one place did it say "ice-cream" - probably for legal reasons.

Ahold has this cheap generic brand called Guaranteed Value that they stock in their Stop & Shop and Giant stores and while the packaging is atrocious (looks like something out of a Soviet post apocalyptic society) the ice cream is really good. It's the cheapest ice cream you can get by weight and they stock it all the way at the bottom, but the quality is comparable to any well known ice cream brand. idk why it's so hard to shake the assumption that name brand = superior, but if we could all rid ourselves of that notion we'd save so much money.

@James Currie Sure they do...They voted for Trump. You MEMBERRR???

@James Currie Lmfao...It was a joke

Why is food delivery discouraged? I used to until I became a student and couldn't afford it anymore.

You can still get food delivery but it's not something you see from grocery stores. The money is made from impulse purchases. it's why the oil and the peanut butter are in the coffee aisle and not the cooking and jellies aisle, respectively. They want you in and rolling past all the extra junk. Getting essentials requires a mile walk through bakery village and deli town, etc.

I wish there was more food delivery again because well it makes more jobs especially for young folks.

+Dragonborn Near future delivery (including food) will be done by drones controlled by AIs.

yep, this is why I shop online, I don't care about marketing I care about the nutrients of the food I buy and the price

Hey, that's pretty OK

It’s pretty fine

It is a food that you can insert in your mouth at will, certainly. (2nd box quote, this stuff is hilarious!)

Branding.

lol

"It tastes OK." ™

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Anti Cancerous lmao

kilroy was here

JesseLH88 oh shut

Welcome to America!

Welcome to the Nacirema ways of doing things.

You know there's usually a produce section on the right side of stores right? The meat is usually somewhere in the back.

Sit Stand Walk LIAR! Pretty much all grocery stores in my area has the produce and meat section right at the entrance. I think what happened is you entered the exit. Another thing... The European grocery store in my area has you walk thru all the processed foods first and puts produce and meats in the back corner.

The real food you're talking about isn't in the aisles, it's around the perimeter.

which episode

ilker yoldas was just thinking this haha

sigurd sigurd All of them. They bring it up constantly. It's a huge hurdle

ilker yoldas me too . I learned so much from that show lol

sigurd sigurd any food/drink is another commodity with shelf price :)

Bago Garde amen

Bago Garde no go away

No, all high sugar high fat processed food.

Bago Garde but what about having a "cheat day"?

truth is you need to take your tinfoil hat off and live life

Actually NetNeutrality prevented this

Have you any examples to compare? (just interested)

I believe the purpose of having only 1 major soda brand at restaurants in most cases is due to more of a marketing approach than straight up cost cutting. Sort of like ad space, the brand of that soda line may actually pay the food service location to distribute only their product in the hopes that they gain customers by branding (you'll notice the major soda brand being supplied at the location always has its logo in a lot of other spots like the glasses, signs, clocks, etc.) and also by sheer sales of only their product in the location. Hard to lose money on an a marketing investment when your product is the only one being sold. Also you are correct mostly about the generic brands. Most store brands are typically made by another manufacturer, usually of a major brand name (of course usually dairy products are not, but that does vary store to store. I can say that a company I worked for does have most of its generic product produced by major brand labels.) Now I've never been involved in the actual manufacturing of generic products, but I have been to a manufacturing location and spoken with some people who have worked in canneries and the like that do produce generic foods and you are right in the fact that some are exactly the same product from what it seems. Some may have extra stuff added during the manufacturing process so I'm unsure. That I don't know. One trend I have been noticing is major brands (like UTZ for example is quite openly doing) seem to be producing high standard products under a generic name, but also with their branding somewhere on the package, like "Made for "Store Name" by UTZ". I'm assuming these products, since they are cheaper, are lower in production cost so in turn lower quality to a degree, but still higher quality than the base store brand products that they most likely still produce.

B Randall My father once worked as quality control at a major vegetable cannery. One of the really interesting things he told me was that if they found a new production method and were able to cut costs, they wouldn't be able to sell them at the lower cost. People typically associate the price of a good with it's value, and when your can of peas is priced at $0.60 and your competitor's is at $0.75, since yours is the "cheaper" product it appears to the customer that it's both cheaper in cost *and* quality. This is the same reason the Linux OS has never charged for it's product... It knows any price below that of it's competitors (Windows and Apple) would be interpreted as lower value. That said, there is a certain percentage of consumers who buy the lowest cost, regardless... Creating a separate product line under a generic label is a great way to tap into that consumer group as well. I'm not sure how much is due to quality really. I'm fairly certain that frequently plays a role, but the cynic in me suspects that some of it is because due to scales of economy, the higher the volume of production, the lower the cost per product, that some high-quality labels do this because they can't sell high-volume at a high price point, but they need to run a high-volume to maintain efficient, cost-effective production. At that point, they're left with overproduction, and need to offset what they can't sell at a high-price with another product sold at a lower price.

Btw that's not why Linux distros are free of cost (also there is no single one "Linux OS", there are multiple distributions based on the same kernel that have different things on top like package manager, GUI, etc.). The GNU General Public License (the software license under which Linux is distributed) states that anyone is free to view, modify or distribute the source code (as long as the distribution is done under the same license so that this freedom is maintained). So if everybody can view, modify it or redistribute it, then there's no point in charging anything for it because anybody can give it away for free. Also, if they charged anything for it, it would take away some of the freedom associated with it. Linux couldn't care less about comparing or competing with Windows or Mac, or about its interpreted value. Anyone who wants to use it can just use it. Anyone who doesn't want to, just doesn't use it. There's no gain or loss anyway.

you can't have a real capitalism with multinational corporations. this is the global economy, not 'capitalism'.

America's the biggest hypocrite I know. Explains why a "communist" country like China is doing a lot better and with Trump coming into office, well let's just say things aren't going to get any better.

china isn't a communism... never has been, its always been totalitarian, still is now with similar overtone as the US. behind the scenes control giving people the illusions of choice. Also, is much more complicated than that, china isn't doing 'better' really. the global economy is a mess right now, has more or less been that way since 07-08

There is competition. Which is roughly an unfair competition where the small guys have to put a lot of money against the big guys, that also put a lot of money. Is there anything more capitalistic than that?

China depends on demand from our economy lol

Generally speaking, this is true in the UK and Australia. This Economist article, linked in my article above, gives a decent international overview of slotting fees. Basically, the same arguments for and against extend to other countries: www.economist.com/news/business/21654601-supplier-rebates-are-heart-some-supermarket-chains-woes-buying-up-shelves -Phil

Vox wow I never knew this

How about in India?

If you want to check if it is true in your country you will have to check in your's antitrust/free competitive laws in your country, look especially for terms "Unfair commercial practices"

Probably even more so, supermarkets over here do more own brand products.

sportster1988 omg that's awesome as hell. I couldn't eat a whole pack of M & Ms at once but I eat on them all day and will eventually eat a dozen packs lol. that is bar far the best place for candy in a store, kids will yell and scream for it and EVERYONE looks. just like with the little bags of jerky. I wonder how much they forked out for that space? it wasn't always there

It's not worth it... the amount of idiots that you will attract is limitless.

whitepiano23 It's like the song says "War, huh, good God, what is it good for? Bacon, eggs, and muffins!"

".......say it again...war, huh what is it good for....nothing...."😂

Huỳnh Thiên Trung because grocery shelf space and life is the same war.

uh yeah. that's how tech advances. aka cell phone technology. solutions come from problems not from peacefulness.

"solutions come from problems not peacefulness" thats an oxymoron. thats when the most funding is provided. you are looking at the system without understanding it, really. if our society was different, there isn't any reason this 'progress' couldn't be achieved without 'crisis'... but thats not the scheme set up to let people run around hating and back stabbing each other.

I think you missed the point

Slashplite they just find the corruption, but shows why it's impossible to get rid of it. Shedding light on how corruption is sometimes protected by laws/government

it's not corrupt, it's just the laws of unintended consequences. you make rules and the results come out and then people say it isn't fair and try to circumvent them, when they made the rules to begin with

Slashplite but vox was payed by the Hillary campaign

+cosmic infinity I see a lot of people claiming anyone who supported Hillary was paid, but where's the evidence?

It does sound bad think about how much you have to sell to gain revenue.

@@whywhy7634 Yeah, and to think that the grocery store will also mark it up so they make some money on it as well.

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Parker Sprague it's just photoshopped picture taped on an icecream jug...

Astroxy That makes sense... but now i am sad : (

Location in shelfs are really important when it comes to non loyal customers who change brands regularly. Ultimately there is a definite advantage and every business would fight for it.

Thiaghu Rajan yea, not every person only buys one product. I just don't understand why giant companies who seem to have a monopoly on goods pay so much for placement.

James Burgess I wouldn't necessary say it's more powerful. It can appeal to some with preferred brand. But if you go and all you see is Coca-Cola everywhere and in the far corner it's Pepsi you might get tempted to get cola could be Cuz the shelf looked nicer or the Pepsi looked just slightly dusty. it's true. major corporations push on other companies though they just naturally control the market

If someone is going to buy it anyway, it doesn't matter where it is. But if someone wasn't, it certainly does. I work a checkout, I hear a customer tell me that they only came in for one item despite the pile of groceries they now have... at least 3 or 4 times an hour. And that's one checkout, for one shift-- of people who actually say it.

Jose Ramirez .

Couldn't you argue that if slotting fees were removed, retailers would have less money so they'd have to raise prices of products anyway to keep their profits up?

I'm afraid you're stupid.

All new to me... Hope that tickles. ;)

it's all about that Mon hon

Nathanael Crawford (in Bain voice) You only adopted the back room dealing. I was born it! Formed by it! I didn't make an earnest offer til I was a grown man.

XD

I literally thought this after I hit the OK button. Thank you for making me chuckle xD

No one's doubting that it makes sense to charge more for better spots, the thing that's hard to believe is that the space is actually for sale. I just always assumed that it was at the discretion of the store owner, so it's at least news to me.

true ;p

Here it is: www.c-span.org/video/?152059-1/grocery-stores-product-fees -Phil

Awesome, thank you Vox​

Vox How do you decide on and prioritize your topics? Sometimes they seem so out of left field (albeit always interesting).

by slotting them, haha

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"Ever wonder why stores will move shelving around every once in a while? Its to adhere to calculated product selling rates and bought product placement." I hate it when they do that. Every time a store does that I have to waste time finding something when I previously knew exactly where it was.

It's not EE, it's nes-lay

***** so how is gourmet pronounced??

***** I was being facetious, the correct English pronunciation is what you'd expect. But the proper, French pronunciation is quite different, see here (click the 'Listen' icon) translate.google.com/#fr/en/gourmet

So it's nes-deen?

Everything in English is pronounced ashwra-la-bing-bang.

BoogerDeluxe22 it's not a retarded question tho -,- I really do mean that, i didn't know that such magazine exists.

And, as a part time stock clerk I'll tell you right now that the majority of items in a grocery store aren't DSDed but come from the distribution center and are stocked by us. So, yes putting an item into a grocery store costs money.

But they are. Lived with the Dairy Manager at a big-chain grocery store. He had a map of where each product needed to go and how much space they needed to take up. Not only was he in charge of making sure they had enough product to sell, but he also had to make sure that they had enough product to fill up the space the product's maker had paid for.

Harry Haynes Actually, they should've done so. What it means is that they might be reprimanded for not doing it "correctly".

I'm guessing the people you saw weren't following company policies. I study business and I can assure you this is something businesses take very seriously. There are people in retail companies whose entire job is to decide how every single inch of every single store is going to be utilized. Misusing a foot of space can cost a business thousands of dollars.

Harry Haynes they not doing their job properly and being lazy

wszyscyzginiemy I'm wondering that too. I'd buy that ice cream just based on his picture. His face says "I keep it simple. I mean, do I look like the kinda guy who can come up with artificial flavors?"

Probably a stock photo.

Joseph Douglas every industry needs to be regulated. It's not about how much money can I make, but how they make it. Just because they can doesn't mean it's right.

Movies used to show millisecond shots of sodas and popcorn, so the subliminal part of your brain would make you crave them, and make you hungry for them. The government stopped it after they deemed that it was wrong, because it made people subconsciously buy your product, essentially losing your free will. It's things like this that make the companies have to be regulated.

it's literally extortion.

LittleBill902 more like rent.

When we're talking about any market, the important issue is in which way is good for the economy and the common interest, and private benefit goes second. All western countries work on some kind of free entreprise/government control mix, based on the idea that it's the best system on their societies. The common assumption is that, if a market is working properly, then it's not neccessary to regulate it. But it's very common to see markets where some antieconomic practices are common. Then some regulation could be necessary. On this case: some people argue that this is an additional cost that affects much more small firms than the large long established corporations like Unilever or Nestle. If that's true, then we're talking about an entry barrier, which limits competition. It's good for the big corporations(as they can be more comfortable and raise prices), but not for the general consumer, who has less choice, and pays more for the same. Is this true for this case? Who knows. But I guess you can understand now why is not so easy

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Best store ever.

Not in the grand scheme of things they're not. For sure.

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