The History and Celebration of Jul/Yule: What the Old Norse Sources Say!

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Norse Magic and Beliefs

Norse Magic and Beliefs

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Links to sources
Haakon the good's and Magnus the blind's and Ynglinga saga-All part of Heimskringla(from my online shop)
norse-combat-sportswear.mysho...
Helgakvida(in the poetic edda)
www.amazon.com/gp/product/162...
Chronicon of Thietmar of Merseburg(Tons of great info on Germans/Saxons and Danes)
www.amazon.com/gp/product/071...
Hervarar Saga(free online)
www.germanicmythology.com/FORN...
Looking at what the actual sources say about the pre-Christian Jul/Christmas tradition in the Norse world.
Vetrnaetr: What the sources say
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@TomF1
@TomF1 Жыл бұрын
The first full moon after the Winter Solstice 2022 will be on Friday January 6, 2023 6:08 PM EST or 11:08 PM UTC. It’s the January 2023 full moon, also called the Full Wolf Moon. Happy Yule Brothers
@nifex8151
@nifex8151 2 жыл бұрын
Greetings from Sweden. I have a vague memory from school. A teacher told me that the tradition of hanging red balls in the christmas tree comes from the pagan times when they made sacrifices and used to hang their sacrifices in the trees. so the red balls would be a symbol for the drips of blood from the sacrifices. I have no idea if this is complete BS or if it has some truth to it. Even so i think its a interesting theory. Love the content! Ive learned alot so thanks for that!
@norsemagicandbeliefs8134
@norsemagicandbeliefs8134 2 жыл бұрын
Ja, har ikke hørt om den før. Men det høres logisk ut. Tusen takk!
@andreasolsen3962
@andreasolsen3962 2 жыл бұрын
They want to paint the old norse pre christian Nordic- europe as barbaric. Maybe if the pope year 1050 sent order to make europe and the nordic countries christian by force. Maybe if the chatolics didnt came with forceful and violent acts the ”Vikings” wouldnt be so violent. Just thinking out loud!
@tomcollins5112
@tomcollins5112 Жыл бұрын
I heard it was from the shamans hanging the red and white magical mushrooms, amanita muscaria, on evergreen trees. They would hang them on the trees to dry, and then they would be consumed during the winter celebration.
@piebuns9127
@piebuns9127 Жыл бұрын
Good info. Gonna make it a habit
@leviwolfe4755
@leviwolfe4755 Жыл бұрын
Ja, tack så mycket
@kennethmoore625
@kennethmoore625 Жыл бұрын
Pork? A lot of drinkng? Celebrating with friends and family? Honoring the gods and ancestors? I'm all for it! Hoping for a more recent video this year.
@blakewinter1657
@blakewinter1657 2 жыл бұрын
The best part of Haakon the good's saga is that he made it a law that you HAD to drink at least a certain amount of alcohol, regardless of whether you were celebrating christmas or jul
@tyson2777
@tyson2777 2 жыл бұрын
It's probably a older tradition from before Håkon the good. Don't remember the amount of beer they had to make before yól, but there was a spesific amount for each head in a household. Wheter it was old people or infants didn't matter, and jul should last as long as the beer lastet. You had to pay a fine if you didn't
@thecelticwolf8642
@thecelticwolf8642 2 жыл бұрын
Thats awesome
@TheWitchInTheWoods
@TheWitchInTheWoods 3 жыл бұрын
Well researched , just the facts...Yule being after the midwinter makes more sense in Far northerly climates, where it takes longer for the sun to "return", though may be trying to fit into a Roman style celebration and combine the two in Christianinty
@norsemagicandbeliefs8134
@norsemagicandbeliefs8134 3 жыл бұрын
Yes thats true. Theres quite a bit more from other sources from other places and Ill do a video about that too. These were just sources from the Sagas. I like your channel too by the way. Been following for a little while!
@TheWitchInTheWoods
@TheWitchInTheWoods 3 жыл бұрын
@@norsemagicandbeliefs8134 Oh excellent.. thanks. I think you've got a great channel here.. actually the best video I've seen on Yule.
@humanatur2786
@humanatur2786 3 жыл бұрын
pagan time is eternal! the lunar calendar makes a lot of sense. thanks again for another dose of high quality history to contextualize eternal connection.
@marcrhodes-taylor5347
@marcrhodes-taylor5347 2 жыл бұрын
very informative and educational you have really researched this carefully and i appreciate your attention to detail
@foresttolle1278
@foresttolle1278 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to learn more about Viking construction of their homes and ships
@linzimorin7878
@linzimorin7878 3 жыл бұрын
The part about oaths during celebration...I wonder if that's where the new year resolution came from
@norsemagicandbeliefs8134
@norsemagicandbeliefs8134 3 жыл бұрын
Yea that could be true!
@baldrickt.adder-slayer287
@baldrickt.adder-slayer287 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely where it came from. However, things would be a whole lot different if we still killed people who didn't keep their resolutions. Just sayin'.
@renata_of_the_craft
@renata_of_the_craft 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this insightful video, where I could glean a little bit more knowledge in regards to the Germanic/Norse calendar and the feasts and blóts. I learned previously, and have included into my own calendar, that Midwinter Blót(Jul) was celebrated 3 full moons after Winternights/Houstblót full moon, and Victory Feast/Sigurblót 3 full moons after Midwinter. And the Wintersolstice was used as the measure to adjust the calendar approximately every 3 year cycles with a second Summer moon month inserted for balance. Following my calendar which is set to moon months, there will have to be the next adjustment made in 2023, in order to keep to the settings for the Winter Blóts the same, including the time distances in between. What I didn't know was the fact that Jul was called differently prior to King Haakon the Good (good?!?) moving the feast to the preceding solstice. So I will adjust my settings in my calendar and speak of Jul no more, unless I need to refer to Christian high days. Thank you again!
@STR8SICCC
@STR8SICCC 2 жыл бұрын
The similarities between Pagan and Christian traditions interest me greatly.
@filthycasual8187
@filthycasual8187 2 жыл бұрын
The Christians appropriated pagan customs but rewrote the meaning behind them as a means of making the conversion process for pagans easier.
@ThorAnderson
@ThorAnderson 2 жыл бұрын
Do you think that Santa's original 8 raindeer each represent one of the legs of sleipnir?
@norsemagicandbeliefs8134
@norsemagicandbeliefs8134 2 жыл бұрын
Could be. Interesting thought
@melissahdawn
@melissahdawn 2 жыл бұрын
Just a quick thought, but wouldn't the Sami people have some record of the original traditions? seems like they would be effected in some way, or for that much, any other neighboring faction. Surely if the Scandinavian pagans had regular huge feasts or what not someone would have noted.
@norsemagicandbeliefs8134
@norsemagicandbeliefs8134 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately alot of their traditions are lost too. Although this happened much later than the rest of scandinavia
@marcusfridh8489
@marcusfridh8489 3 жыл бұрын
there is a theory that the tradition of the christmas stocking, comes from that you would hangf up a stocking with hay for slepnir, when odin was bringing gifts
@shRedbeard_
@shRedbeard_ Жыл бұрын
Mushrooms 🍄 they grow under pine or evergreen trees and some get dried by handing on the fire place. Could always be wrong but that’s my choice hahaha
@jannetiainen5768
@jannetiainen5768 Жыл бұрын
In Finnish december is still joulukuu (= julmånad, month of yule). At least in Finland christianity and paganism (old ways) lived side by side for a long time. I know that My greatgrandfather was a Church going christian during sundays and a pagan when doing magic for healing and hunting luck. This was from nothern-savonia (Savo/Savolax). I suppose that this kind of fenomenon and practise happend even in parts of Norway and Sweden.
@aguijohn1321
@aguijohn1321 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome.
@whispersinthedark88
@whispersinthedark88 2 жыл бұрын
I have loved marzipan for longer than I can remember, if I had to choose only one candy for the rest of this life and the next I would pick marzipan without a moments hesitation. Even now at the age of 42 I get bummed out if my mother doesn't give me some marzipan for during our families "christmas"* celebrations 😆 . I just wish there was a place near me that sold good quality marzipan, unfortunately its not easy to find in Midwestern America. * none of us are christians, Im Norse/Germanic pagan and the rest are somewhere in between and we celebrate around the same time as christmas since thats when everyone gets their days off.
@LilyoftheValeyrising
@LilyoftheValeyrising 2 жыл бұрын
I love marzipan as well. I’m English living in Maryland and I find ground almond flour at Costco and make my own yummy marzipan which is super easy!
@margaretford1011
@margaretford1011 6 ай бұрын
Even early Americans drank a lot of alcohol. In a lot of ways, it was healthier than drinking plain water-it sanitized it.
@erlendurgudmundsson5100
@erlendurgudmundsson5100 3 жыл бұрын
Iceland, Jól, 24 december culminating on January 6th.
@kevincounter6879
@kevincounter6879 2 жыл бұрын
But is that historical or after the Christ myths conversion? If it is historical, please share your sources so I can look it up. I'm always looking for new angles to see everything about my ancestors' tribal culture.
@michaelwhittaker4246
@michaelwhittaker4246 Жыл бұрын
I got to celebrate a Yule based event at one of the sites Bede worked from last Sunday.
@kenhart8771
@kenhart8771 2 жыл бұрын
Tak!
@YorkyOne
@YorkyOne 9 ай бұрын
The earliest Scandinavian writing makes no mention of a Yule festival. There are only two references that a festival called Yule was actually celebrated in Scandanavia. Both are from 13th century Christian Iceland and were written several hundred years after those events supposedly last occured (this includes the story of King Haaken). Where the source of the information came from or how accurate that information was is unknown. Nor is it known if that information was correctly interpreted.
@ryushogun9890
@ryushogun9890 2 жыл бұрын
06:52 what symbol is that on the shield?
@VikingTokyo
@VikingTokyo 3 жыл бұрын
Today seems to be the first full moon after the winter solstice so God Jul?
@kevincounter6879
@kevincounter6879 2 жыл бұрын
Yule would've been Jan 28-30, 2021. This year it is January 17-19, 2022. God Jul!
@IamDeadAlive
@IamDeadAlive 2 жыл бұрын
In russia they still celebrate christmas in january.
@kimpetersson8076
@kimpetersson8076 2 жыл бұрын
You've probably got this question a hundred times before, but - the Christmas tree/Julgran, or the Midsommarstång for that matter - are there any sources that speak of the tradition of rising a tree och a tree like pole in the pre christian time? I stumbled upon a source on the internet that claims that det cross formed Midsommarstång represents the tree of Yggdrasil it self, the top representing Asgård, the bar in the middle representing Midgård, and the two cirkles at the edges representing the Sun and the Moon. Furthermore the source also claims that the same type of tree like symbol was used during every main feast during the year, but as for the tree during the winter blots it was later replaced by a fir. I think the Midsommarstång theory has some interesting ideas to it but I smell a great deal of post construction. What are your thoughts on this? (Btw: The source appears to be written by an archaeologist I think. I can send you the link if you like.) Sorry if you already covered this in another video. Thank you for great videos and for sharing your knowledge! Regards/ Kim, Sweden
@marcodellasanta9089
@marcodellasanta9089 6 ай бұрын
@WolfQuantum
@WolfQuantum Жыл бұрын
Well if Jul is on the first full moon after Solstice, that makes it the Wolf Moon. I approve.
@themav3ricm3thodd91
@themav3ricm3thodd91 2 жыл бұрын
What's cool is when that new moon comes around it will be right under the sun in a conjunction.
@nullgravity2583
@nullgravity2583 Жыл бұрын
that's how new moons work
@louispellissier914
@louispellissier914 2 жыл бұрын
the saga of haakon the good says that the second toast was for Njord and Freyja o_O
@AgeCobra
@AgeCobra 2 жыл бұрын
You forgot Odinn's gorse being 8 legged representing the 8 legged reindeer and donnar and blitzen are norse names .
@stephanreichelt1960
@stephanreichelt1960 2 жыл бұрын
Thunder/Lightning
@nickenr1
@nickenr1 2 жыл бұрын
In Sweden we got these kind of santas little helpers (nissar). Some Lives in the forest. Some in a barn and helping the farmer out with his animals and duties. Some lives and helps you in your garden. However, on the night before christmas you haft to put out a bowl of risgrynsgröt for him. otherwise he gonna kill one of your animals. My question is if this is a myth from asatro? Because it sure as hell dont sound christian 😆
@nickenr1
@nickenr1 2 жыл бұрын
*Brutaly slaugther one of your animals to be correct. And forgot to mention that you cant see him, because he is a smal master ninja😅
@inpersonaDK
@inpersonaDK Жыл бұрын
Same in Denmark.
@trolldurlangseth666
@trolldurlangseth666 2 жыл бұрын
We still drink today lol
@stephanreichelt2700
@stephanreichelt2700 Жыл бұрын
juli=July
@Jannette-mw7fg
@Jannette-mw7fg 7 ай бұрын
I am sorry, but I can not believe that only one king is able to change the date of a ceremony that existed for thousand or more years, and let al the groups of people follow that, it just does not work that way. I think it was the Christians trying to make the Yul less Pagan. I do believe some groups did it around the equinox and others with the first next full moon. In Russia they still do it on the 6th of January, don"t they?
@user-zh3we6lc5p
@user-zh3we6lc5p 3 ай бұрын
Orthodox Christmas is celebrated on the 7th of January. On the 6th of January - Christmas Eve 🙏🏻
@mclem7670
@mclem7670 2 жыл бұрын
Lebkuchen!
@codewordslinkydog
@codewordslinkydog Жыл бұрын
Raiding your rents refrigerator does not qualify you as being a viking either. Or saying skäl all the effin time
@Hadradaa
@Hadradaa 2 жыл бұрын
Pagans didnt have christmas holidays, christmas is about jesus and pagans ate pagans not christians
@thecelticwolf8642
@thecelticwolf8642 2 жыл бұрын
It suppose to be about Christ but its not. Christ was not born in December. Its just the Catholic Church fucking around agian.
@inpersonaDK
@inpersonaDK Жыл бұрын
Please do some research.
@JOSEPHDANCE75
@JOSEPHDANCE75 5 ай бұрын
Any knowledge from English about the Norse would be bullshit
@Sureagurk
@Sureagurk Жыл бұрын
So mutch nonsens
@inpersonaDK
@inpersonaDK Жыл бұрын
What is nonsense?
@KyOte13
@KyOte13 Жыл бұрын
I have a question… what deity or spirit is venerated for SNOW ❄️ ⛄️ ? I LOVE WINTER, and the snow… from what I’ve researched, Skadi is an etin that is responsible for it… but of course, the all father is the lord of the wild hunt (during winter)… and Freyr is also responsible for earthly weather… so what do U say, brother?
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