The "One country, two systems" policy was not forced by the British, it was initially proposed by Deng Xiaoping for the purpose of uniting Mainland China and Taiwan. It was first implemented in Hong Kong and then in Macau.
@chm02257 жыл бұрын
actually as a Hong Konger, I find quite a number of flaws in this video. Firstly, you used the wrong map to represent the early days of Hong Kong, in which the coastal area still wasn't heavily reclaimed. Secondly, it is the Chinese government, or Deng Xiaoping to be exact, who proposed the "One Country, Two Systems" but hell not the British. The Brits actually proposed another thing about exchanging Sovereignty with the right to rule (sth like that) but the PRC refused. Lastly, in 2014, the massive strike was a direct result of people's dissatisfaction towards the Political Reform Proposal (universal suffrage), not the National Education. Please do more research next time Daily Conversation
@llaftuo36187 жыл бұрын
Uk wanted british administration with PRC soverainty
@lizadonrex6 жыл бұрын
well this guy thinks Trump will never become the president, what do you expect.
@sixucai53144 жыл бұрын
During the British control period, the UK never give Hongkong democrazy but only sent administration officers to Hongkong people & gave up Hongkong when Japan attacked during ww2. While China gave you true freedom so you can finally decide something but now Hongkong teens despise China in reverse. what happened?
@chm02254 жыл бұрын
@@sixucai5314 Sorry, rebuttals to you. Firstly, the UK DID NOT give up Hong Kong. The Commonwealth soldiers from Britain, Canada, India and some local Chinese fought till the end. Secondly, regarding the point of sending administrative officers, yes, indeed, in the early days, most of the administrative officials were from Britain or other parts of the Commonwealth. However, from the 1960s onwards, there started to be a trend of localisation of government officials, and in the days before Handover, some of the major government posts were even occupied by Hong Kongers, most notably Anson Chan, who served as the Chief Secretary from 1993 to 1997. Thirdly, regarding the point on democracy, indeed! Britain never gave us true democracy, but in the 1991 and 1995 LegCo elections, we were granted the rights to quasi-universal suffrage for Legislatures. The whole democratisation trend took place since 1980s, and was sped up after the June Fourth Incident out of fear of communist rule. Democracy and universal suffrage for the Chief Executive is something that was openly agreed to be granted by CCP before Handover, so you can see that the trend of democratisation would continue beyond Handover. Lastly, regarding the point on Chinese giving us true freedom, I wonder if you truly understand the situation in Hong Kong. If CCP has given us true freedom, we would be able to select our CE right now already, but the plan granted to us in 2014 was obviously a plan that would effectively exclude any pro-democracy candidates from entering the election process. This universal suffrage thing is the root cause for all the dissatisfaction towards CCP, so this can suggest why HongKong teens hate CCP. The fact is, the CCP has been demonising Hong Kong teens, but they are just fighting for what they deserve. Feel free to have a meaningful discussion with me, I am more than welcome to receive rebuttals from you, but make sure you get better prepared first, especially in terms of facts.
@sixucai53144 жыл бұрын
@@chm0225 thx for your long statement. But as part of chinese (I assume it's true or it's meaningless to discuss about this topic), why Hongkongers never think of making China better or giving chinese people more respect but just think about yourselves. it means very selfish to me, especially Hongkong becomes rich ONLY because of the special status in China. I never see the sign that HKers really get into mainstream chinese culture。
@EGGMOK957 жыл бұрын
As a Hong Kong people, thank you so much for making this video. Those history bring tear to my eyes
@SunnyD6987 жыл бұрын
Very concise and well-done. You should do more of these
@mohamedaboelenein77275 жыл бұрын
😂
@PomegranateChocolate7 жыл бұрын
Another inaccuracy is the "One Country Two Systems". This is a totally Deng's idea and has nothing to do with the British. So your saying that the British force China to agree to the "One Country Two Systems" policy is just hogwash.
@TheDailyConversation7 жыл бұрын
Not sure what your sources are for that claim...One Country Two Systems was a key negotiation point between the UK and the Chinese governments: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-British_Joint_Declaration You think Deng would've just given Hong Kong their own system if it wasn't one of the stipulations for British withdrawal?
@PomegranateChocolate7 жыл бұрын
I claim it out of my own memory and not out of any source. "You think Deng would've just given Hong Kong their own system if it wasn't one of the stipulations for British withdrawal?" That's exactly what I said. "One Country Two Systems" is Deng's invention. He even said that it can serve as a model to Taiwan on the unification issue. Another thing is that "One Country Two Systems" is not used as a bargaining chip by China as you suggested. From what I can tell, China has no intention to impose Communism on Hong Kong after the turnover setting aside all political considerations and Britain couldn't care less. China at that time was still very poor and Hong Kong was much wealthier and successful than mainland and was a huge asset to China of then, both in terms of investment and source of ideas. China certainly wants to keep the status quo of Hong Kong and disrupting Hong Kong in any shape or form was tantamount to kill the golden goose that laid the golden eggs. Deng wasn't that stupid. China at that time was starting baby step on experimenting capitalism and Hong Kong was a source of inspiration. To that end Deng created four SEZ (Special Economic Zone) of which Shenzhen is one. Why Shenzhen? Because it was right above Hong Kong! Britain's gripe on the whole Sino-British negotiations is that China wants to get Hong Kong back, with full sovereignty. In the beginning Britain insisted the three treaties were still valid. When that doesn't work Britain propose that China can get sovereignty but the territory should be administered by Britain. That doesn't work either and the negotiations entered into an impasse and finally China announced that if Britain does not come back to the negotiating table by a certain deadline China will unilaterally announce its plan of Hong Kong's turnover. Britain relented and that was how the negotiations continue.
@123321ps7 жыл бұрын
To "The Daily Conversation" ..... One Country Two System is originated from Deng so to keep the stability of HK. UK so happens to agree upon it either they want it or not. Obtain the Hk government source and not through Wikipedia, which is much more reliable. You can search HK government homepage. I live in HK long enough see the whole process happens and through daily newspaper starting in the 1980's. Do some serious research before sending information to the public. I just want to say China never trusted UK (A previous drug lord country) who sell drugs, beat the hell out of China, snatch China assets and money and carved out some of China's land just because China doesnt have sufficient military force during last century. It is only a matter of time (within 20 years) when China obtain sufficient military and economic power to tear the limb from their torso if someone tries to carve China's land again like previous UK did.
@leezhieng7 жыл бұрын
One Country Two System was originally Deng's solution for unification with TAIWAN. Since Taiwan's issue is way complicated and may not resolved for many years to come, Deng thought he can use it on Hong Kong and Macau first.
@robertrigg857 жыл бұрын
"Deng would've just given Hong Kong their own system if it wasn't one of the stipulations for British withdrawal." That's exactly what would happen. Been living in HK before the handover, people outside Asia don't seems to understand how smart is the CCP. I'm not a supporter of them in any way but Chinese Communist are not ordinary communist. If you look at Macau, CCP had their shot to unify Macau and Mainland in the 70s after the coup in Portugal but they refuse to do so. Instead, they make sure Portugal keep governing Macau. So why would Deng want a 1 Country 2 Systems for HK? Very simple, because Deng knew that values are created by entrepreneurs and startup companies. Doing business need a huge sum of financing, so where could those money come from? Hong Kong. more than half of the financing flow thru HK to Mainland. In general, pro-Beijing parties prefer more economic freedom and anti-Beijing party prefer more political freedom. You can read some historical text to begin and not relying on Wikipedia. Learn more, way to go! Good Luck!
@maxlee67397 жыл бұрын
You should do a video about Taiwan.
@TheDailyConversation7 жыл бұрын
Great idea!
@isaacleonardo18457 жыл бұрын
The Daily Conversation i love your videos but can you make one about mega projects in Central and Latin America
@--julian_7 жыл бұрын
Yes please!!!
@thundermouth25047 жыл бұрын
Yes please! Looking forward for that
@lafkdjay7 жыл бұрын
Max Lee He shouldn't make a video just about Taiwan, as it would be unfair to the other Chinese provinces.
@kevinsheppard75177 жыл бұрын
2047 is going to be so dramatic
@anushichauhan92436 жыл бұрын
Why??
@Eddieyang696 жыл бұрын
hong kong and macau can keep their systems and stay autonomous for 50 years after reunifying .
@webgender14 жыл бұрын
uh no
@foodlover_pastaspecialist4 жыл бұрын
It is 2047 now
@foodlover_pastaspecialist4 жыл бұрын
National security law has passed 😭
@AstonLaw7 жыл бұрын
Protests against national education was in 2012. 2014's was for the election system reform of the chief executive.
@AhmadAbdallah03957 жыл бұрын
I always enjoy your videos, do more videos like this on asian and african countries. There aren't many videos about their history.
@TheDailyConversation7 жыл бұрын
Thanks and will do.
@Slashplite7 жыл бұрын
Go watch Geography Now channel
@dlylee12347 жыл бұрын
Farghali and
@sjappiyah40716 жыл бұрын
Slashplite they’re good as well
@davidrosner62675 жыл бұрын
Hong Kong is one of the greatest and most strategic cities in Asia! Hopefully it will stay that way!
@dadoomercat47657 жыл бұрын
Hi guys this is a local highschool student here in Hong Kong Just one thing, Hong Kong was so different from the rest of China (No, that does not include Taiwan) But now it's becoming "More China". Our languages (Cantonese dialect) and writing system (traditional Chinese characters) are becoming not the way it was. At least I still have access to KZfaq now, but I'm afraid that I won't after a few decades. Now just to clarify, I'm not saying whether it's a good thing or a bad thing, it's just the way it is. Though many youngsters here demanded the city's idependence with their hatred towards Beijing, personally I don't think if it's gonna work. Especially now with the One Belt One Road thingy. I don't really have that kind of great hatred for the central government, but I do hope Beijing would learn from their mistakes during the Maoist period and consider a more liberal way of rulling. Yes I don't really want such tight control from Beijing, namely banning a universal suffrage in which we elect our Chief Executive (Consider it as a great mayor who wags his tail towards Beijing, yup...) Our economy is so badly relying on the back up from the mainland. Our water, our food, and many other things, we simply need them for survival. So should Hong Kong be a self-rulling place? I think not. But hey Hong Kong is definitely a lovely place :) really hope to see you here
@sylvesteradkins-dexter8797 жыл бұрын
I agree with some of your points, but I doubt that China's going to overtake us too soon. You see, China's going for modernization and perhaps in decades time it will be as free, albeit probably still totalitarian, as Hong Kong. They're currently not in the least part Maoist-style socialist in their economic and social handling. But I must say that it is the pan-democrats themselves that vetoed the bill that could have been the first step to democracy. China's not going to let us have universal suffrage anytime soon, so we should go gradually, as stated in the Basic Law. To do that we need to obtain the best deal that we have, which is Carrie Lam's bill for 2017. Yet the pan-democrats vetoed it and destroyed opportunities for the first step to universal suffrage. Now Beijing' not going to care about our democracy for the forseeable future. Sigh. That's why we need to be more pro-establishment. Just saying, but I am a native middle school student studying here in Hong Kong.
@ksg-wg7wu7 жыл бұрын
Fergus Wong as a secondary school student from Hong Kong i agree with u and if we aren't so rebellious China don't even have to intervine
@bradleyjames31207 жыл бұрын
china's edu system look like a prison. How about Hong Kong? Are Hong Kongers collectivist or individualist?
@ESC_jackqulen7 жыл бұрын
Rahman LITE I would say collectivist? (I immigrated early on so I did not have first hand experience) Hong Kong's educational system used to be a replica of the British one, but the reform in early 2010s changed to have slightly more of the student's own choosing, I think.
@sylvesteradkins-dexter8797 жыл бұрын
Rahman LITE Personally somewhere in between. I believe that both individualist and collectivist systems of learning have their own benefits. We are taught social responsibility and to develop an interest for our country (which is definitely not brainwashing, know the difference). We have elements of national education mixed into some subjects. However we are not restricted on which electives we can choose in high school and university, and the government also supports student's individual interests, so as long it does not harm social cohesion and national security. We have a subject called Liberal Studies in which we analyse politics and society and stuff like that, and critique of the government and current system is allowed. However, independence propagation is prohibited as it is unconstitutional and violates the 'One Country' clause.
@wiseclock207 жыл бұрын
RIP democracy for Hong Kong, 2047
@Drachepower7 жыл бұрын
Sarcastic Charisma we will take our country back and make china great again
@SJ239823986 жыл бұрын
Hong Kong is doing better than China. I think you will take it back and ruin it.
@junelam6286 жыл бұрын
agree xD
@MrKlopp-vo3ir5 жыл бұрын
@@SJ23982398 actually its not
@SJ239823985 жыл бұрын
Mr. Klopp GDP per capita is $38000 for Hong Kong and under $10000 for China. I would say Hong Kong is doing better.
@bekmashrapov18587 жыл бұрын
As usual British colonization is everywhere.
@llaftuo36187 жыл бұрын
Brits sucked but the Qing also colonised Tibet, Korea, Vietnam and Xingjiang.
@robertrigg857 жыл бұрын
I can understand the part about Tibet. For Xingjiang, it's a very diverse place where Chinese give Uyghurs more power because they are non-Han majority. Also, If you view tributum as colonisation, then you can add Burma, Siam, Cambodia, Laos, Butan, Sikkim, Nepal, Afghanistan, Kazakstan and a brunch of Khanates in Central Asia in the list. So next time you shot fire in KZfaq you got more bullets in your hands. Good Luck!
@arolemaprarath32483 жыл бұрын
Including the US, a former British colony now follows the footstep of its former coloniser.
@thiagoribeiro06017 жыл бұрын
I think it'd be cool if you did a video on Macau after this one. Also, maybe you should try making some videos on South and Central American countries . I'm from Brazil btw 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
@miakaa12047 жыл бұрын
I'm a hongkonger, I'm also a Chinese.
@ESC_jackqulen7 жыл бұрын
same. I am racially Chinese, ethnically Hong Konger. And that is my identity.
@ESC_jackqulen7 жыл бұрын
calm down guys... Ethnicity is referring to a group of people with similar culture (sources: Google, Wikipedia, and Merriam-Webster). Since I identify Hong Kong's culture to be distinguishable from the rest of China, I could claim I'm ethically Hong Konger. -Yes, I'm also ethnically Cantonese and Han Chinese. I don't deny that, but I most closely identify with Hong Kong in that it feels too different when I'm in, let's say, Shenzhen, which is only a border away from Hong Kong. This is kind of like a Puerto Rican is an American by standard, but they probably would refer to themselves as Puerto Rican. -Asia is a whole continent, unless my audience can't tell China apart from India, I go straight to "I'm Chinese" rather than "I'm Asian". With that said, my point is that the term ethnicity is very ambiguous and it highly depend on how one defines it...
@fredhal86817 жыл бұрын
Countries that are mostly ruled by ethnic Chinese like the mainland, Taiwan, Singapore, and HK, should all have independence from the mainland's government. Taiwan and Singapore obviously do but the Communists ought to see some benefit in having multiple political and economic centres, practicing various methods, all for the benefit of their own citizens (Chinese or otherwise), the region, and humanity. Healthy competition and exploring alternative paths is better than one authoritarian government (granted that they are doing a pretty fantastic job so far). But some members don't have the interest of the common people at heart and more control over Taiwan and HK is going to enrich them and their buddies.
@ottawafrankie7 жыл бұрын
Jackqulen. I totally understand what you are saying. I share the same sentiment.
@Shenzhou.7 жыл бұрын
Fred Hal Singapore is not part of China, so why is it being included in states wanting independence from China? The government only claims territory under Qing dynasty China, of which Taiwan and Hong Kong are, but Singapore isn't.
@linusfotograf7 жыл бұрын
I love Hong Kong and need to visit again!
@ksg-wg7wu7 жыл бұрын
Linus Wärn glad to know u like here☺
@ksg-wg7wu7 жыл бұрын
Linus Wärn u might want to come during the HK7 games for a big f ing party
@linusfotograf7 жыл бұрын
When is that?
@Squa16 жыл бұрын
I live in Hong Kong
@giann9897 жыл бұрын
DO MACAU PLEASE.
@subscribefornoreason5516 жыл бұрын
Giann Carlo Lalisan watch the video but every time he says British or English pretend that he says Portuguese and Portugal the same with every time he says Hong Kong pretend that he says Macao and boom now you have Macao episode
@Grid887 жыл бұрын
excellent video as expected from the daily conversion.
@ejoshcoron7 жыл бұрын
Man I love these! So well done looking forward to more!
@TheDailyConversation7 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@swapanjain8927 жыл бұрын
This was really well made.keep more of them coming.
@TheDailyConversation7 жыл бұрын
Throughout modern history, world powers have repeatedly fought over this strategically valuable land. Its name means “fragrant harbor” in Chinese, but it could also mean “City of Change.” This is the story of Hong Kong.
@hiroikeda45406 жыл бұрын
hey @The Daily Conversation, where could I get graphics of Hong Kong like this from?
@mickrussom6 жыл бұрын
what is the point of your idiotic channel? its like a half-assed version of a documentary using other sources. you are crap.
@posunlee92806 жыл бұрын
Chinese move
@th3thrilld3m0n6 жыл бұрын
I have never heard of the language Chinese. Can you please explain it's roots and where I can find people who speak it?
@ChocolateMilk.. Жыл бұрын
@@th3thrilld3m0n America and America.
@Realisy7 жыл бұрын
It's a sad story. What seemed impossible at these modern times, things were done just decades ago.
@ethanfate54397 жыл бұрын
nope!! sorry, correction!! it wasn't a British idea, one country two system first proposed by Deng Xiaoping! And the British did not surrender it, it's call "hand-over" or "return".. it wasn't a choice.! they had too, during the meeting Deng Xiaoping told the Iron Lady, you don't have a choice because "I can take back HK later in the afternoon", but of course no one wants to see any war break out. # 4:15
@pigtorlai6 жыл бұрын
Please make a video on Singapore too!
@mengchaoli5095 жыл бұрын
really detailed introduction of hongkong, Thank u for sharing!
@felipejnnt7 жыл бұрын
Hong Kong is the proof of what the free market can do. An island with no natural resorces and lots of poor people became a developed region with an income higher than the uk's. More nations should copy hong kong and choose free markets, small government, low taxes and soft regualtions.
@felipejnnt7 жыл бұрын
The USA is the proof that this formula can be aplied in a large scale. 13 colonies that became the richest society in the history of humanity. A country richer than the entire european union. Although the US isn't neerly as free as it used to be , it still a very impressive sucess example. You cited the problems of hong kong, but you're not considering what it used be. It was worst than many african countries today. You talked about Singapore, it has a very free market , low taxes and very soft economic regualitions (not so much for social issues though). Look here the correlation of economic freedom and prosperity. Look that the countries in the top of the ranking for economic fredom are also the most prosperous : www.heritage.org/index/ranking
@felipejnnt7 жыл бұрын
I'm saying the USA is the richest society in history by the amount of wealth it can produce, GDP nominal if you will. Also you have to consider that America came from nothing ,virtually. It is a new country, it didn't even existed 250 years ago and today it is richer than the entire European Union and has an economy 8x larger the UK's. And this wealth came from trade and from business creation, it wasn't any petro miracle alone like the ones we saw in the middle east. Meanwhile,China is a society of millennia and that has 1,36 billion people. Of course in the future China will surpass the US, because China itself is benefiting from a freer economy. Mao's China wouldn't even dream of coming this far.I desagree when you say that China can just print money and surpass the US in GDP. That's not how it works. As you said, when you print money you create inflation, so every chinease yuan will be worth less. In the end of the day, the currency ajustments will result in an unchanged overall value of GDP in dollars (This not acounting the bad consequences of inflation and governments printing money). When you talk about income inequality, I also desagree. Ineaquality isn't a bad thing by itself, poverty is. India has less income inequality than the US, but it doesn't matter, because almost everybody in india is equally poor( by american standards). What I'm trying to say is that the difference of income earned between people doesn't matter if everybody can make enough money. It doesn't matter if you neighbor has too mansions, if you have a good house. Inequality isn't a problem, poverty is. Also, when people start seeing inequality as an issue by itself , they start supporting insane propositions like super taxing the rich, taking peoples property , etc. This actions only make billionares and business flee the country, besides beeing imoral. Also, I'm not saying Hong Kong's history excuses it from it's probems, I'm just asking you to have some perspective. Many people from China would do everything to have the right to live in HK. You have to admit, HK is a very prosperous and a very free part of the world. Actually, acording to the UN, the Human Development Index (HDI) of Honk Kong is Higher than those of Sweden , Fance and even Japan. Not bad at all. Singapore, has incredible standards of living as well, but contrairly to what you said, is is indeed a finantial hub. According to the World Bank , it is the third largest finantial center in the world, only behind London and New York. Also, not bad at all. Freedom brings results. Just to finish, I have to agree with your last paragraph, economic freedom is not the same as small government, low tax and soft regulations, it also has a lot to do with free trade. Free trade is a key issue in economic development. That's why Europe is well represented in the list. But you cannot have a free economy without the other factors I mensioned beeing taken into account. By the way, even in subjects like taxes and regulations, Europe is much better than most countries in the wolrd. You have no idea of what crazy taxes and regulation exist out there - they really hurt the economy.
@andresiniesta99557 жыл бұрын
Singapore has 85% of its people living in public housing. 90% of land is owned by the government. 22% of its GDP is produced by state owned enterprises. As for the US, Alexander Hamilton, the first Treasury Secretary of the US (that’s the guy on the ten-dollar bill) developed a theory called the ‘infant industry argument’ - the view that the government of an economically backward nation should protect and nurture its young industries until they ‘grow up’ and can compete in the world market. Hamilton died in 1804 in a pistol duel, but the US adopted protectionism in the 1820s and remained the *most protected economy in the world for most of the next century*. So no, free markets do not always work and its not exactly how the US and EU got rich. Britain had the most protected economy in the capitalist world in the late 18th and the early 19th century. Much of this protection was provided in order to promote British manufacturers against superior foreign competitors in Europe, the Low Countries (what are Belgium and the Netherlands today) in particular. The reason China is developing so quickly while other free market countries are developing slowly is simply because China is taking the right steps, the same steps the US and the British took centuries back.
@MrBlaxjax7 жыл бұрын
@ Andres. That's total nonsense. Britain generally promoted free trade. Even the empire itself was pretty much an open market. It is in the UKs interests to promote free trade. And this was doubly true back in the 19th century given the then relative competitiveness of its industry. As for Singapore and Hong Kong, these must surely be the most unprotected markets in the world, and it is no coincidence that they are among the very richest places on the planet.
@andresiniesta99557 жыл бұрын
It promoted free trade in the LATER part. Very much later. I have already mentioned it. Only during the late 19th century did they promote free trade. Britain had the most protected economy in the capitalist world in the late 18th and the early 19th century. Much of this protection was provided in order to promote British manufacturers against superior foreign competitors in Europe, the Low Countries (what are Belgium and the Netherlands today) in particular. This is consistent with Hamilton's infant industry argument.
@Blaqjaqshellaq6 жыл бұрын
I hear that Victoria Harbour today is far from fragrant!
@aquaticpears31837 жыл бұрын
Love your videos. Please please please make a video about Singapore.
@Dezomm7 жыл бұрын
I second this! Singapore is a fascinating place with a fascinationg history. It'd be a cool video for sure.
@user-cl7ek7wm2l5 жыл бұрын
I am from HK!
@kafkaesqueangel5 жыл бұрын
Wow! I want to visit there. :]
@ms.realreal6455 жыл бұрын
Great job!, you explained this wonderfully, keep up the good work
@joeqiao16917 жыл бұрын
Good video! The future of Hong Kong would surely be interesting. As a Canadian Chinese I sure would like to see a unified China, but keeping Hong Kong as a special administrative region with a free capitalist market and less restrictions to foreign investment has worked so well for the last decade, I doubt that would change anytime soon, perhaps for the better of both Hong Kong and Mainland China.
@joeqiao16917 жыл бұрын
Also you should do a video on Taiwan as it is in another weird and complicated geopolitical limbo. It might get a lot of hate from both sides but I think it is worth the risk.
@ESC_jackqulen7 жыл бұрын
It is said that Hong Kong can keep being a special administrative region until 2047....
@joeqiao16917 жыл бұрын
Jackqulen I ment anytime after 2047.
@ESC_jackqulen7 жыл бұрын
Ahh yes, but perhaps a little less Chinese involvement though. This so called one country two system feels more like a puppet state at some point if the Chief Executive has to be pro-Beijing...
@joeqiao16917 жыл бұрын
Jackqulen I do agree with that. I don't know enough about the situation in China and Hong kong since I don't live there anymore but I think Hong Kong should be kept democratic for the foreseeable future, as it is what makes it special from the rest of mainland China. Maybe it could serve as a starting point for introducing democratic ideals into the Chinese political system once the country is ready economically and structurally, and people have a higher average education level. I don't think China is ready for democracy right now as the model of growth that it has been running is based on long term planning and being decisive in making decisions. It would not be possible in a democracy.
@Tastypieinyourmouth7 жыл бұрын
Very good video! Will you also do videos about the other 3 Asian Tigers?
@brycem12077 жыл бұрын
There is a lot of missing information in this video. For example, the PRC appealed to the UN to remove Hong Kong and Macao from the list of non-self governing territories. Officially marking the process of their turnover. Next, the British did not force the Chinese to agree to One Country Two Systems. One Country Two Systems was established by Deng Xiaoping for Taiwan. He guaranteed them the same rights, and a standing military. During actual negotiations, the British first agreed to Chinese sovereignty with British administration, and later joint administration. China said no, and told Lady Thatcher that they would unilaterally declare the hand over and take it by force if necessary. It was the Central Government that proposed the model, primarily to keep the region economically stable and strong. As that is beneficial to the economic openings taking place in the mainland.
@danb67427 жыл бұрын
Nice Vid 👍 Anyway I'm British and I didn't know that we did all this to China I wonder if the people of Hong Kong could choose would they choose British rule rather than China
@TheDailyConversation7 жыл бұрын
It seems 50-50 to me, but hopefully we'll hear from some Hong Kongers about what they think...
@danb67427 жыл бұрын
The Daily Conversation Yeah I agree Maybe a independent city state like Singapore would be good for them
@ashfaqrahman0077 жыл бұрын
Most of British history concerning the empire is never taught in schools unfortunately, so many don't know all the bad that was done by the British.
@danb67427 жыл бұрын
ashfaq rahman Yeah it sucks Every nation only teaches u what they want u to know I mean in school all we every learnt was the good things Our Empire did and that we ruled 1/4 of the Earth I didn't learn that Winston Churchill indirectly killed 4 million Indians u till a few months ago
@ESC_jackqulen7 жыл бұрын
Hong Konger here :D There's no simple answer. It's divided whether Hong Kong citizens would choose British rule vs China. -most of the older generation would tell you they do not want British rule. In fact, back in 1990's, many look forwarded to decolonization of Hong Kong (the ones that didn't would most likely have immigrated during that time). -However, hostile sentiment grew over the years, especially among the younger generation, as China became more involved in Hong Kong's daily lives (politically and socially). The political aspects was covered in the video where we had large demonstrations that took months a few years back. Socially, the public did not like the Chinese tourists (well, I think that's a worldwide phenomenon). One can imagine how awful that is since Hong Kong has been the top destination for Chinese tourists than any other place on Earth (and still is, after the one visit per week quota law in 2016)
@LUCAS619119 ай бұрын
Awesome video! I've always wanted to understand more about Hong Kong
@horatiohuskisson54717 жыл бұрын
Could you do a video about the history of another ancient city like Rome, Jerusalem or Istanbul?
@TheDailyConversation7 жыл бұрын
Yep. Stay tuned.
@Lvlaple4Ever3 жыл бұрын
UK then: UK now:
@tidusfantasy7 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for making this video. I grew up in HK yet so much history i was so ignorant about. Now finally everything makes sense
@TheDailyConversation7 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! It was a lot of fun to make. Which part of HK did you grow up in?
@ESC_jackqulen7 жыл бұрын
237 islands :P Although most islands are not inhabited so I guess it doesn't really matter that much xD
@TheDailyConversation7 жыл бұрын
;)
@samuelevans5917 жыл бұрын
Nice video
@JulianB1237 жыл бұрын
I love you and your videos
@divinest6 жыл бұрын
always the british and french
@SodeStudios3 жыл бұрын
We is the next Mega City series coming out!!
@lj17827 жыл бұрын
I love this video , there are really many questions not answered about Hong Kong's future
@CaptainM7927 жыл бұрын
Perhaps in the future, Taiwan will become a special administrative region like Hong Kong and be part of China .
@llaftuo36187 жыл бұрын
Eww no thanks communist
@woshishishi7 жыл бұрын
Ur map at 1:31 is wrong, Treaty of Nanking was in 1842, Taiwan was ceded to Japan by China in 1895, so the map should include Taiwan. Also One Country Two System was from CCP instead of British, also 2014 protest was about how candidates are nominated instead of general suffrage, as CCP offered general suffrage but wants a committee to screen the candidates first. other info are very nicely illustrated and accurate. Have been a fan of your videos! Great job!
@martingokcu9347 жыл бұрын
You should make a video about Istanbul
@kk00719904 жыл бұрын
Pls produce a refreshed one to capture the recent changes? Much appreciated
@noahhova3 жыл бұрын
Yeah bc china basically ignored most of the rules set for hong kong
@kobbieamoah39536 жыл бұрын
That fire slum is SUSPICIOUS
@englishtea31917 жыл бұрын
As a Hong Konger, I can't thank the British enough for democratizing Hong Kong and protecting us from full Communist rule.
@a9udn9u7 жыл бұрын
You are a living example of why Hong Kong needs national education. Well, I take that back, you simply need education.
@Gar962297 жыл бұрын
Proud to be British :)
@a9udn9u7 жыл бұрын
+Gar96 That's great, but how come Britain refused to recognize residents of Hong Kong as British citizens back in 1997?
@englishtea31917 жыл бұрын
Well... our government is thinking exactly the same as you. But if China is really an attractive nation for the Hong Kong people, then why, in the first place, the sense of identity as a Chinese citizen is low for the Hong Kong students? And what is the nature of national education? To tell students that they are supposed to weep out of patriotism during the flag-raising ceremony? That is not education, that is brainwashing and that is why we are against it.
@HK_Nation7 жыл бұрын
a9udn9u I think instead of national education what you need is to look at sources other than the Global Times. The most comprehensive democratisation plan in Hong Kong history was the 1947 Young Plan, which would have seen the gradual implementation of Westminster-style Home Rule in Hong Kong. It was shelved only after Chou Enlai threatened to bomb Hong Kong and kill all its residents. It wasn't Britain that refused to recognise everyone in Hong Kong as British citizens. Polls in Britain were very much in favour of granting us that. It was the racist government of the day with Margaret Thatcher and Geoffrey Howe that is to blame.
@AlexM-wq7in7 жыл бұрын
Hong Kong, Macau and Tibet deserve democratic autonomy, if not full independence. Taiwan, Japan and South Korea have paved the way for democracy in the region. Man cannot live on bread alone. He needs freedom. Korea should also unify so that the Chinese people see a free-developed-democracy just across their border.
@CaptainCore9937 жыл бұрын
Alex M Korean unification if a pipe dream.
@minseopleem74587 жыл бұрын
Alex M You couldn't have said it better. I am from South Korea and I agree with everything you have said :))
@AlexM-wq7in7 жыл бұрын
I want as many free democracies and as few autocratic dictatorship as possible. Very simple. If China wants to remain united, they should respect Hong Kong, Macau, Tibet & Taiwan's right to democratic autonomy and self-determination.
@Drachepower7 жыл бұрын
Alex M we will reclaim Taiwan and destroy all the traitor for good, mind your own business , you can not stop that, it is the manifest destiny
@Shenzhou.7 жыл бұрын
+Alex M Respect? Taiwan claims all of mainland China (including Tibet) as belonging to ROC so why should China respect people who clearly lost the civil war? Its like American Civil war, when the Southern states clearly lost the war, but allowed to survive and grow till today, and now claim all USA as belong to them.
@MartinCharles7 жыл бұрын
These animations are really good. Did you make them?
@TheDailyConversation7 жыл бұрын
Yes, every single one (for a change ;)
@akshaym12726 жыл бұрын
I m speech less..Hong Kong is soooo stunning... truly World Class Urban Metropolis 💙
@obsecioncali4 жыл бұрын
Please come back to KZfaq. I miss you.
@user-fe9pk9sc8t6 жыл бұрын
You went directly from ancient hong kong to British imperialism. Why?
@justinsantos57517 жыл бұрын
Do history and mega-projects of ASEAN countries like Singapore et cetera
@machonacho27677 жыл бұрын
there was a person that is named Toke Nasty and has 22 or 23 subs and he made a video called funniest election prediction and your video called Predicting the 2016 Election was on that video.
@potato_caro Жыл бұрын
thanks for saving my english presentation
@TheDailyConversation Жыл бұрын
Happy to help!
@WaineYam7 жыл бұрын
thanks for this video.... please make more.
@janwan35836 жыл бұрын
The not so glory deeds for the so called British gentlemen
@finnmeiklejohn70127 жыл бұрын
Can you also do Singapore (could be part of an Asian city series)
@saalfrankdavid71156 жыл бұрын
WOW u did it great ,love it
@papulrocks7947 жыл бұрын
Taiwan Numbah Wan! Hahaha
@XxDuffnotfuddxX7 жыл бұрын
GradeA's Kid tell ya dad to upload
@llaftuo36187 жыл бұрын
Asher Teo Its not funny if it's true.
@Orange_Laowai7 жыл бұрын
Do the History of Macau.
@playboimillionaire62447 жыл бұрын
Classic
@chauncieextreme85144 жыл бұрын
nah man, Awesome
@FantasmaOlvidado17 жыл бұрын
What an stunning city, it makes Chicago looks like a suburb. Definitely the best skyline in the world beating Shanghai, New York and Dubai.
@674664767 жыл бұрын
HK is such a amazing place 👌🏽
@viktro5467 жыл бұрын
With due respect, you got a thing wrong. 4:50 the protest against a national education was in 2012. The protest on 2014 was solely against the political reform plan.
@codymusic73724 жыл бұрын
fight for freedom,stand with hk
@ds2000a3 жыл бұрын
Yes, Hong Kong Police do the good job and arrest rioters 🤣
@ckma5287 жыл бұрын
As a Hong Konger, I can safely say that we are incredibly frustrated that the 7 million people who live in the city were promised time and time again that we would be given a chance to vote for our own leaders without the influence of Beijing (which we highly disregard), and time and time again they delay this proposal. And it ultimately erupted in the 2014 protests. To make matters worse, there has been an influx of mainlanders into HK and although they have gained a reputation for being ill-mannered and unbearable, a lot are not, but there is no doubt that there is a gap between Hong Kongers and Mainlanders that would be impossible to bridge. In fact, we feel more closely alligned with Taiwan (ROC) and our sister, Macao than we are with China (PRC). Basically, all we want is democracy, a free market, a sense of identity and to preserve both our chinese cultures and western ideals. Beijing would not so easily give in, but Hong Kongers knows that time is ticking and they will do whatever means necessary to get the best deal to satisfy our desires
@ckma5287 жыл бұрын
They won't start a nuclear war by nuking one of its own cities XD. But you're right, HK can't win in any sense unless there is a radical change in policies and opinions in the central government of Beijing
@ksg-wg7wu7 жыл бұрын
CK MA hi fellow hong konger i totally agree with u but i fear this will not end very well please name one country that her people can vote leaders directly? I can the Philippines and see what happened singers and celebrities end up elected I would rather let LegCo to elect our Chief Executive don't know what u think☺ i dun want a fight btw
@superpowerdragon7 жыл бұрын
@CK MA as I fellow Hong Konger, I disagree with you, complete separation with mainland is impossible and economic suicidal. Although the Chinese government is corrupted and freedom is at risk we can't afford to lose our economic ties mainland China. Furthermore, mainland has changed a lot since its last economic reform, we should try to work towards extending the current two government system rather than complete separation.
@ksg-wg7wu7 жыл бұрын
Superpower Dragon someone with sense 😁 China is not perfect no but too much is at stake and we just rely them so much these day like the Chinese tourist i dot like them but then again they are the pillars of our economy
@ksg-wg7wu7 жыл бұрын
Andrew Cobb we agree too
@supersurfer17 жыл бұрын
The British had no choice. The Chinese would have simply taken Hong Kong back.
@celiachan56585 жыл бұрын
I’m a Hong Kong citizen. And I think it is very hard to live here as many people are rude here :(
@jon2507 жыл бұрын
You should do a video about Singapore.
@blackchang19817 жыл бұрын
Excellent video.
@Chemson19897 жыл бұрын
中國:「香港的民主,你是民,我是主。」
@yourbasiccup24805 жыл бұрын
lol
@imperfectcell70817 жыл бұрын
Can you make more videos on mega projects and heavy industry?
@rushnamissong16345 жыл бұрын
I love Hong kong
@user-kb1zm6en7e7 жыл бұрын
Two things pissed me off about this video. Why, why, why on god damn Earth do you people keep using the word ''Western'' as a synonym for ''Modern''?? Why? Hong Kong did not ''westernized'', they ''modernized''. Using the word ''westernized'' to mean ''modernized'' implies a superiority as if what you call ''west'' is ''modern'' by default. As if ''they'' didn't had to modernize, you cannot claim monopoly over modernity. China was more modern in the past, so the modernization of Europe should be then called ''Chinization'' right?? Britain was a primitive medieval village when Spain was a superpower, Britain largely developed by copying the Spanish system of trade. So therefore the development of Britain should be called ''Hispanization'' right!? Second thing that pissed me off is again your usage of the word ''west'' as a synonym for ''America''. ''The West'' did not blocked anybody, AMERICA did. The Cold War was between America and the Soviet Union ( two western nations). The Korean war was between America-backed South Korea and China/Soviet Union-backed North Korea. Speak accurately, and stop using the word ''west'' in such a massively inaccurate and misleading way. If you don't know what it means, don't use it!!!! God dammit it's so frustrating, it's like explaining to 15th century peasants that the Earth is not flat.
@ESC_jackqulen7 жыл бұрын
ザ・リバタリアン While the choice of words may not be the best, the video was just trying to get a point across. The author is most likely from USA since these are terms used there (not saying it's politically correct, but that's just how it is used commonly) kind of like people continue to use the word Gypsy when the ethnic group is called Romani.
@user-kb1zm6en7e7 жыл бұрын
The point it got across was incorrect. It's like saying - ''African countries like Germany and Ghana sell bananas'' and then when someone says ''Germany is not in Africa'', you say ''well i was just trying to get a point across''. It's not accurate, you can't just give false information and say you just wanted to get a point across, it's not an accurate point. The author is most likely English, they are the most brainwashed people i have ever seen, their media got them by their balls, have you a seen a typical newspaper stand in England? There is nothing but yellow papers spreading lies all the time, it's just ridiculous.
@DannyIsco77 жыл бұрын
I teleported Bread
@draculanova65486 жыл бұрын
Hong Kong belongs to the British.
@MCOD1999UK7 жыл бұрын
Like with all British territories it should be the citizens who decide if they wish to remain under UK rule.
@kevinwang5527 жыл бұрын
One country two system is a great initiative created by Chinese respective former president Deng Xiaoping. It has nothing to do with U.K.'s force.
@Kai-en2xs7 жыл бұрын
and a clear proof of spreading your gospel through war and conquering people. lel such peace
@lndyrd Жыл бұрын
can someone tell me why it seems a lot of HK attractions are on HK Island? I deduce that it is because what the British controlled first (based on the video), so HK Island is more developed than Kowloon because the British operated from there before gaining control of Kowloon and developing there too?
@PomegranateChocolate7 жыл бұрын
There are some inaccuracies in your narrative. For example you said that in the 1970s and 80s when Hong Kong thriving again, China demand Britain to hand over the entire territory in 1997.... This is distinctly not true. It is actually the other way. It is Britain that was agitating for a clarification of the status of Hong Kong post 1997. In the early 1980s as the year 1997 began to loom large, Britain began to have concern on many of its law that has a time factor (many related to real estates law) in it because it crosses the year 1997. This causes a lot of uncertainties for the legal minded British. So Britain sent then Hong Kong governor Sir MacLehose to Beijing to feel out China. This is how the whole thing got started.
@PomegranateChocolate7 жыл бұрын
When I say whole thing I meant the Sino-British negotiations on the future of Hong Kong.
@pt76046 жыл бұрын
I wish HK would become like Singapore, it's own nation.
@kingdomofgarvin3432 Жыл бұрын
Do one about Port of Spain Trinidad and Tobago 🇹🇹
@tomnicholls90166 жыл бұрын
When Hong Kong was ceded to Britain in 1842, there was no such entity called China. There was the Qing Empire, of which the current territory of China was a part. The Qing Empire came to an end in 1911, breaking into a number of states with some territories annexed by neighbouring countries. The trajectory was similar to the other large empires such as the Austro-Hungarian Empire, Ottoman Empire, etc. The present state of China has no legitimate claims to Hong Kong because Hong Kong and Kowloon were ceded to Britain by the Qing Empire, which also leased the New Territories to Britain for 99 years. Qing Empire has since disappeared. If Hong Kong were part of China, then Serbia should be part of Turkey and Croatia should be part of Austria. Should England be “returned” to Italy because it was part of the Roman Empire? LOL
@larryl15175 жыл бұрын
Learn some asian history. Qing dynasty was inherited by Republic of China, then after years of civir war, communist China took the power. What you said is like Louis Napoléon's France is not France, only Bourbon's France is the true France.
@jeanniefung4836 жыл бұрын
Good video 😊
@europeisthebestloveisblind55246 жыл бұрын
British were terrorising
@12gpm917 жыл бұрын
Do one on Dubai - it had no electricity in 1950 and no airline till 1985. Now Emirates is the biggest airline on the planet and DXB is the busiest airport. With a 5% import tax across the board.
@zzz88887 жыл бұрын
Favorable? More like unfair treaties you Euro-centric Aussie-British-American
@llaftuo36187 жыл бұрын
Wtf is aussie british american? The word favourable works in this scenario, (also in australia, canada and uk while favorable is in US). Youre just a butthurt commie.
@kkelvinl8527 жыл бұрын
as a Honger, thanks for the vid
@Mathin3D6 жыл бұрын
That city uuuuugly!
@holdfast4532 жыл бұрын
Britain shouldn’t have been involved in war against Germany, just like Japan didn’t make war on the Soviet Union. With the Royal Navy free from Europe, and better managed than the disastrous Churchill government, HongKong and Singapore would have never been taken by the Japanese. Then, WW2 won mainly by the USA and the USSR, Britain should have kept the smaller, strategically important territories of its empire: HongKong, Singapore, the Emirates, the Suez Canal, Cyprus, Cape Town, end a very few more select islands. Plus close relationship between UK, AUS, CAN, and NZ. This would still be an exclusive club whose prosperity and power projection would be on a par with the other leading players today. Alas, the WW2 ruined everything for Britain.
@robspunk7 жыл бұрын
FREE HONG KONG!
@user-qf3hf9ey8d7 жыл бұрын
Free ur mother.
@alexderek52335 жыл бұрын
RIP Hong Kong
@RedPanda5557 жыл бұрын
I remember watching the handover ceremony in 1997 and there were many people celebrating HK's return to China. Are these likely the same people that now prefer British rule? Why did they seem so happy to be returning to China back in 1997?
@ESC_jackqulen7 жыл бұрын
Not the same people. People who say they prefer British rule are most likely the younger generation. The older generation (at least the ones that stayed in Hong Kong) still believe in the one country, two system. -Well, for the first time, the people in Hong Kong have the power to govern themselves....
@FF_AlohaEdition7 жыл бұрын
Lol the logic of some people. The one country two system can be anyone's idea for all I care. The fact china is basically electing its official in Hong Kong contradict the purpose some people's idea of the purpose the one two system. So if that idea is indeed deng's, then deng basically back stab the people of hong kong; promising one country two system more like one country two system runs by one party. What a joke. So let me get this right. People are not saying deng is a genius for implementing the system, but are saying deng back stab the people of hong kong. Ok got it.