The Raiders Strangle hold on the punting position is one of the greatest anomalies in sports. I absolutely love it.
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@otakuoutpost77710 күн бұрын
Lifelong, 45+ year Raider fan. The main reason our punters are so amazing is we give them so many chances to punt. 😞
@IsaacPunts10 күн бұрын
Congrats on being the first one to make this joke, as I was writing this script I knew someone would
@TheDreadedRaider10 күн бұрын
So did Cleveland and Detroit and I can't think of one person who kicked for them.
@stephen_cs10 күн бұрын
@@IsaacPuntsit’s not a joke, but if your offense can’t get to midfield, you have more opportunities to kick further without getting touchbacks. That’s the problem with judging punting on distance alone
@DarranKern10 күн бұрын
@@stephen_csabsolutely correct
@Mcdun3259 күн бұрын
Practice makes perfect 😅
@Gmlgml20010 күн бұрын
The Shane Lechler and Seabass Janikowski combo was lethal
@Lord3zzy2 күн бұрын
Hell yeah seabass my favorite raider of all time fr 💯 #RAIDERNATION
@markfinley3703Күн бұрын
@@Lord3zzy The two Jeffs weren't bad either.
@Theel2510 күн бұрын
They also have had some iconic/great kickers over their years: George Blanda(Kicker and QB during his time with the Raiders), Sebastian Janikowski, and now Daniel Carlson. Raiders and special teams is something they've always had.
@ThanondorfTV10 күн бұрын
If only Daniel’s brother was any good
@jaggedstarrPIКүн бұрын
Chris Bahr (sp?) was also great during their 80s great years.
@gsisemore10 күн бұрын
These past 20+ years by the Raiders have been a prime example that fantastic punting does not equate to winning. In other words, the offense and defense have failed the Raiders’ special teams unit year after year since 2002.
@conorlauren10 күн бұрын
I am a huge Raiders fan for life. I sometimes find myself upset that the Raiders offense is bad enough to even allow a punter to have the chance to get a 50 yard average. I guess I’ll put it this way: Put AJ Cole on Brady’s Pats and AJ is an average yardage punter because he wouldn’t have the chance to launch bombs
@kayleighlehrman956610 күн бұрын
Maybe the Chargers could've borrowed the Raiders' special teams units for the 2010 season. Number one overall offense, number one overall defense, team finished 7-9 and missed the playoffs.
@brettrossi03410 күн бұрын
@@kayleighlehrman9566damn dude. Brought back memories of watching football that time period. That chargers team was insane! But they failed at winning those big games
@RyTrapp09 күн бұрын
@@kayleighlehrman9566 One of the most unreal seasons of all time😂
@SelsigsКүн бұрын
I think the best punters are the ones who rarely leave the bench
@TigerWoodsLibido10 күн бұрын
Well Lechler definitely got plenty of punting reps with that 2006 Raiders offense.
@maureencora19 күн бұрын
Ray Guy was One of Greatest Punter / Hall of Famer, May He R.I.P.
@pathutchison76889 күн бұрын
Marquette king was also crazy fast. There were so many trick plays that were possible. I never understood why his career ended so quickly.
@schmuckytheraiderbear50438 күн бұрын
His personality ended his career. He was kicked off the Raiders cause he pissed off the locker room. Remember when he took that picture with Aqib Talib making fun of Crabtree and the necklace incident? Bruce Irvin almost beat his ass during that whole drama. Soon after he was off the team. No punter is worth a locker room cancer.
@pathutchison76888 күн бұрын
@@schmuckytheraiderbear5043 wow, I totally forgot about that. Thanks for the reminder.
@brownbronco64656 күн бұрын
It dosent help that apparently Broncos coaching staff was trying to get him go change the way he punts and it gave him some sort of hip issue
@RedDragon0523 күн бұрын
@@schmuckytheraiderbear5043 King serves as a good lesson for any punter that no matter how good you are, the position is seen as easily replaceable. Most coaches will take an average punter who doesn't hurt the locker room or take unnecessary penalties over a good punter who does.
@cyberftКүн бұрын
@@RedDragon052that’s not what happened. There is a channel called flemloraps that does a “what happened to” series and King is featured on one of the episodes. King even reached out to flemlo telling him he nailed the story.
@deiondre09 күн бұрын
10:40 I was literally about to make this comment before I heard you say it. Lechler’s gotta be the second punter in the HOF
@214jef10 күн бұрын
I might have been waiting my whole life as a Raider fan and Ray Guy fan for this video.
@jonasanderson352710 күн бұрын
I’m surprised the raiders let the bears take that Iowa punter this year in the draft
@the1hatman7510 күн бұрын
You don't draft a punter when you already have the best one in the league.
@WattsRaider9 күн бұрын
We have AJ Cole we don't need a punter.
@schmuckytheraiderbear50438 күн бұрын
Marquette King's personality ended his career. He was kicked off the Raiders cause he pissed off the locker room. Remember when he took that picture with Aqib Talib making fun of Crabtree and the necklace incident? Bruce Irvin almost beat his ass during that whole drama. Soon after he was off the team. No punter is worth a locker room cancer.
@markfinley3703Күн бұрын
Marquette also drew stupid penalties with his antics after great punts. Great physical talent, snakes in his head.
@daltonsideas10 күн бұрын
I may be a big chargers fan and thus a big Raiders hater, but man do I love their specialists.
@IsaacPunts10 күн бұрын
As an unbiased Bengals fan, I agree
@TheDreadedRaider10 күн бұрын
When is LA going to realize Herbert sucks?
@conorlauren10 күн бұрын
Hey: I’m a Raiders fan. And I’ll say: Darin Bennett was fun to watch. Scifres actually massacred us one game about a decade ago.
@percn0witzki10 күн бұрын
Lifelong Raiders fan, literally born and placed into a raiders carrier when I was brought home ,& the only jerseys ive ever bought are Lechler Carlson King & Michael Bush (if you know you know)
@RyTrapp09 күн бұрын
@@TheDreadedRaider TBF to Herbert, while I do think he was put on a pedestal way too early, he hasn't exactly had the greatest coaching situation to start a career with. Even if you like the coaches he's had(I mean, OCs & QB coaches aside, Staley didn't help...), he's going to be on his 4th OC/QB coaching change in 5 years this season. That's what killed Alex Smith's career, dude had 6 different OC/QB coaches in his first 7 seasons; unreal. No player can develop like that, especially a QB. This is the problem with the "first round bust" conversation, many of these players have their potential wasted by awful coaching and may have developed into something special with the right coaching. But that's the league.
@RyTrapp09 күн бұрын
Long term series: punter history for each team?
@jcheng4710 күн бұрын
Similarly Green Bay has had an insane run with their QBs.
@IsaacPunts10 күн бұрын
I would agree, maybe not as dominant as the Raiders punter stretch but consistently a top ~5 QB for like 50 years is no joke
@TheDreadedRaider10 күн бұрын
I think we are just seeing the beginning of Green Bay with QBs. Before farve got there they didn't have anyone since Superbowl was invented. But still almost 30 years is nothing to sneeze at
@markfinley3703Күн бұрын
@@TheDreadedRaider Bart Starr?
@PrinceTalonSabre10 күн бұрын
Now *this* is what I subscribed for
@jonathanfeldheim655410 күн бұрын
this video makes me wonder how punting on 4th down became normalized and whether team roster sizes were embiggened specifically for punters/kickers, great vid! Way to make punting interesting
@ObiWanIsCool10 күн бұрын
3 phases of football. i grew up watching lechler and king. now having cole is awesome.
@gretzky66149 күн бұрын
This truly is something I think about way too much
@L4JP9 күн бұрын
Isaac (or anyone else reading this), can you help me find info about a memorable punt I have never forgotten since seeing it on TV in my childhood? I'm 99% sure it was Ray Guy - at least that's what I remembered through the decades. It had the weirdest bounce ever - it landed right on the goal line, bounced straight up and landed on the goal line again, over and over until it laid to rest on the goal line. I thought I remembered it as having been nicknamed (by the announcer or some reporter afterwards) "A Bean Too Much", because if it had been just inches shorter, it would have been a weird miracle punt instead of a touchback. Whether I remember the nickname correctly or not, I would think it would have made its way onto the internet as something fascinating, but I have searched for it several times in multiple ways and never found a peep about it. Perhaps you can find it, since you are great at digging into the history of punting.
@taytay82839 күн бұрын
Ruy Guy is a legend 💪🏾👊🏾💪🏾👊🏾 John Madden loved him
@b_lovan10 күн бұрын
I love the high drop, flowy Ray Guy punt. It’s how I punt, except Ray could beat my punt stats with his non-dominant leg 😂
@xenos66959 күн бұрын
Giants probably had the best decade for a LB room ever from 1981-1990. Between Lawrence Taylor, Harry Carson, and Carl Banks they combined for 18 pro bowls, 5 second team all pros, 9 first team all pros, 2 hall of famers, and Lawrence Taylor was defensive rookie of the year, three time defensive player of the year, and won an MVP.
@Iamhungey7 күн бұрын
You can even go back a bit further as well, remember Carson was drafted in the 1970s during the Wilderness Era and there was Van Pelt. Probably among the few things they did right in the draft during that period.
@samsonitejet79 күн бұрын
it's wild that king never made a pro bowl, but was all pro
@Iceisnice3210 күн бұрын
I loved this, please do more videos like it.
@IsaacPunts10 күн бұрын
I actually have a whole series like this!
@Mo-MuttMusic10 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing. I remember watching Ray Guy on television growing up. He was phenomenal. I can't think of another team with the string of punting greats the Raiders have had. Shawn R., Mo-Mutt Music/Sacred & Secular (and football fan)
@markfinley3703Күн бұрын
I have Ray Guy's autograph on a t-shirt I made. It said Ray Guy, Hall of Fame, if Ray's not in, the Hall is lame. This was 2 years before the Hall FINALLY did the obvious thing and inducted him. Ray struck me as the consummate Southern Gentleman. He was not hostile about it, he was extremely polite to everyone. Just a pleasure to listen to.
@ThugShakers4Christ9 күн бұрын
Closest I can think of is the Chicago Bears at the MLB position. Multiple HoFers at the position, but it's been more spread out.
@drewbilodeau33756 күн бұрын
I have a Janikowski jersey, but I need to get a Lechler one as well. Those are the two greatest Raiders from my childhood
@genociderjill5 күн бұрын
I would like a Ray Guy Sandknit..
@CERBERUS1O810 күн бұрын
Man I miss king... Dude was the most fun I've ever had watching a Punter
@poindextertunes9 күн бұрын
Not a Raiders fan but even I could see the guy was way over qualified for his position
@WattsRaider9 күн бұрын
For what's its worth as a raider fan we never worry about our kickers and punters they turn out good but the problem is you cant win football games on kicks and punts alone.
@SnowyRains9 күн бұрын
bruh 63 yard banana kick can you imagine how much further it would go if they kicked it properly with a drop punt
@sludge85063 күн бұрын
Lay off the meth, snowy. 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
@reintaler63558 күн бұрын
This is like how Brazil has an amazing history of football/soccer because of crime corruption and low living standards for the masses
@oneofone535 күн бұрын
Also Fullbacks are an underrated spot on our rosters. I mean today there like 24 fullbacks. Former Raiders make up a good spot of them. Alec Ingold, Jakob Johnson, Jason Cabinda (was an LB for us), Jamize Olawale, Keith Smith…
@deezupzeohdown9577 күн бұрын
Its insane at the quality of kickers we have had
@mikenobles10382 күн бұрын
Loved ray guy ! What a weapon he was, especially pinning the opponent deep . And Shane lechler was almost as good as he was !
@eggsngritstn9 күн бұрын
The Titans with Hentrick, Kern and Stonehouse are second-tier dynasty .
@Josevatz2933 күн бұрын
We’re always 3 n out so our punters get mad reps and start to master it 😂😂😂
@manny16596 күн бұрын
that boy aj cole is so different!!! glad hes on my team!
@poindextertunes9 күн бұрын
theres a video on YT of Chiefs GM Brett Veach catching a TD pass from Chiefs OC Matt Nagy in the mid 2000s 😎
@WafflesTwoThreeZero9 күн бұрын
You should talk about Ryan Stonehouse’s crazy rookie season
@Whats_a_ZJ7 күн бұрын
Could you make a video talking about the different types of punts that you listed in the video? Thought everyone just tried to bomb it as hard as they could until today. Id just wanna see something with some examples maybe and a brief description. I know it's a lot to ask but figured I would anyways 😁 if you read this thanks for your time!
@robertshepherd60253 күн бұрын
Well done
@sludge85063 күн бұрын
The Bears drafted sauerbrun in the 2nd round, then told him not to kick it so far.
@george837510 күн бұрын
Can we get a video on my boy tress way?? Love him as a life long Washington fan
@jorgesoto76409 күн бұрын
I always liked king as a punter , should of signed him
@sludge85063 күн бұрын
Ray Guy once downed his own punt.
@trunksthegoon96659 күн бұрын
Raider fan here I seen at lot of terrible offensive play so many 4th downs we punt so much that our punters had no other choice but to be great even today Aj Cole is one of the best punters in the league and our kicker be great to cause we rarely score TDs
@teo_heel2 күн бұрын
I'm still waiting on the video about CFL Punters.
@DarkNanja8 күн бұрын
packers with quarterbacks did the same thing
@AlexanderJordan-sv7nm10 күн бұрын
I’ve got a lot of love for the Raiders
@maureencora19 күн бұрын
Do Raider Field Goal Kickers.
@Elnahmain8 күн бұрын
AJ might honestly be the best yet
@sludge85063 күн бұрын
Marquette King played just six nfl seasons. 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
@marcwhitlock50028 күн бұрын
King could also run fakes or salvage bad snaps into 1st downs running. To your question Green Bay with QB's and Steelers with coaches is the only groups I can think about off the top of my head.
@leethecomedian10 күн бұрын
Have you seen the bears punter from ia? Pretty talented guy, without him the don't go to the big ten championship game. Anyhoo🤘
@WafflesTwoThreeZero9 күн бұрын
17:06 titans with running backs
@paysonfox887 күн бұрын
I guess the Raiders have a Dynas "kicking"tee????
@user-mo2ji2lx9yКүн бұрын
We do got the kicking team on lock That's a fact
@kendallevans40795 күн бұрын
I'll always feel like they cut King on personal issues
@joustwave654110 күн бұрын
7:20 "they actually almost brought him in a couple times" huh? 😂
@KraphtOne8 күн бұрын
Pittsburgh Steelers Coaches is the only thing I can think of off the top of my head. I'm 40. There have been 3. Likely for you there have only been 2 in your lifetime lol
@arrsequoia40879 күн бұрын
Vikings and wide receivers.
@TheDreadedRaider10 күн бұрын
I literally just bought 4 tickets for the raiders MNF game this year. Get on KZfaq and this is the first thing that pops up. Destiny? Nah
@devin_331910 күн бұрын
Song at 14:20?
@lindalealphamale9 күн бұрын
John “mad a sack”? Haha
@osaji9224 күн бұрын
He got Sisemore wrong too.
@jasonfreitas684510 күн бұрын
Vikings on wrs Carter moss Thielen harvin diggs Jefferson Packers on qb is obvious to look into I’m thinking rams RBs but don’t feel like looking it up but you know the rams have had running backs
@poindextertunes9 күн бұрын
running backs is probably chiefs up until recently when Reid changed the offensive scheme
@lindalealphamale9 күн бұрын
John cis a more?
@user-fd5vy9ud3r7 күн бұрын
I think that my all time goat punter is pat mcafee, anyone else?
@fredricclack71377 күн бұрын
🦁 Now! 😊⚒️💙
@jorgenthompquist2269 күн бұрын
Great video, I’m an AI- Prove you’re an Al Davis too
@jorgenthompquist2269 күн бұрын
AL
@drag0..7 күн бұрын
RN4L ☠️
@Dude_bro2110 күн бұрын
Weird flex? But okay…
@user-mo2ji2lx9yКүн бұрын
Shane L. My dude
@bembrysburner30689 күн бұрын
So punting really doesn't matter... Look where all that elite punting got them
@osaji9224 күн бұрын
Three Super Bowls with Ray Guy. One Super Bowl appearance with Lechler.
@bembrysburner30683 күн бұрын
my bad ig they have 3 rings against plumbers and fireman
@osaji9223 күн бұрын
@@bembrysburner3068 what?
@bembrysburner30683 күн бұрын
@@osaji922 whoopsies too much time on twitter
@bembrysburner30682 күн бұрын
@@osaji922 too much twitter for me bro
@Mr.MikeBarksdale9 күн бұрын
I get this channel geeks out over punters, and while Ray Guy was truly great, simply put, using a First Round Pick on a punter is absolutely insane. As good as Mr. Guy was, there is a concept in economics called Opportunity Cost at play here. They aren't just selecting Ray Guy. The Raiders are NOT selecting lots of other talented players. How much yardage does Ray Guy get you every week? 20 yards more than a replacement level punter? 40? No punter in the world is worth the talent you are giving up by drafting him. Three Hall of Famers were undrafted behind him: WR Drew Pearson, OG Joe DeLamielluere, and some QB from Oregon named Dan Fouts. Just the CHANCE to get any of those guys in the draft would be better than drafting a punter. It's like Devin Hester. Okay, fine. You have to put him in the Hall of Fame? Last time I checked, TDs on returns are worth the same as other TDs. Every yard Mr. Guy saves you is just one yard. Yes, Special Teams are important, but let's not get crazy here. It's still the third most important unit of a team, and it always will be.
@chrish9319 күн бұрын
Well they won three Super Bowls from 76 to 83 so i would say it turned out alright, they were loaded already when they drafted Guy and that was the era before free agency and the salary cap so keeping your talent was easier back then.
@osaji9224 күн бұрын
They could afford to take a punter in the first round because their team was literally filled with hall of famers.
@Mr.MikeBarksdale4 күн бұрын
@@osaji922 Really? Aging Ken Stabler was better than a young Dan Fouts? I mean, that's absurd.
@osaji9224 күн бұрын
@@Mr.MikeBarksdale Aging Ken Stabler? In 1973? Ken Stabler won the MVP that season. lol It was also his first full year as starter and yeah, he was better than Fouts. Who the hell was Fouts in '73? Chargers didn't catch on until years later. His supporting HOF teammates were, Otto, Upshaw, Shell, Brown, Biletnikoff, and Branch.
@angelduarte-rr2zjКүн бұрын
man u messed up u didnt talk about janakowski well u did but not the right name it wasnt shane it was sebastion janakowski
@JO-uy6zs8 күн бұрын
We'd have 6 Lombadis if we didn't get fucked by the biased NFL. OAKLAND RAIDERS FOREVER 🏴☠️
@jaggedstarrPI3 күн бұрын
Hey, Mr. Narrator, if you're posting videos about the Raiders, you just CANNOT butcher the pronunciation of John Matuszak. Hint: His nickname was "The Tooz." You pronounced it, "John MATIZIK. He's Raiders royalty. So, say it like, "MA-TOOZ-AK!!!" :-)
@jimblomquist40172 күн бұрын
Your statement that punting started to become important only in the 1950's is horribly misinformed, especially for a channel dedicated to punting. Punting was a major tactical part of the game in the early years of the NFL. Might be worth you doing some research for another video, although there's pretty scant video from that period.
@Cdog21_____10 күн бұрын
First please pin me I love your videos
@richardkirkendall40109 күн бұрын
That's because the best punters want to play for the only team to draft a punter in the first round wouldn't u.
@SmallPeenBigDreams4 күн бұрын
I think King would have worked out if our HC was like AP. But I also agree that you can't be giving up penalties as a punter. Especially excessive celebration penalties 😂
@Tokinboy8 күн бұрын
Marquette was the best
@mynameisgladiator19337 күн бұрын
You young people have little grasp of the English language, especially vis-a-vis pronouns.