The History of Windows 8 Development
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Today's video details the development process that led to the creation of Windows 8. We take a look at 4 unique development builds compiled at different stages of the development process.
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@SupaPhly0 4 жыл бұрын
MS: please don''t leak our work :( Staff: no
@bowltm 4 жыл бұрын
nice pfp
@gnome6671 4 жыл бұрын
At least redpill hasn't been leaked lol
@Skittleology 4 жыл бұрын
@@gnome6671 it hasn't been leaked but you can still enable features restricted by redpill as shown in the video.
@fm00078 4 жыл бұрын
WHAT'Z U TALK'N BOUT WILLIS? The word 'Please' has no correlation to that confidentiality contract all employees had to sign. So was there real meaning,... go ahead with discretion?
@timmy47670 4 жыл бұрын
@oof epic At least 2 employees had their employment terminated for leaking (or assisting in the leak) of early Windows 8 builds.
@billylardner 4 жыл бұрын
“No matter how you feel about it, you can’t deny that this operating system released in 2012” You got me there.
@MichaelMJD 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah uhh, not the full quote there...
@billylardner 4 жыл бұрын
Just having a laugh aha. Great video btw, I’m about halfway through and it’s incredible how much windows 7 evolved.
@MichaelMJD 4 жыл бұрын
Haha thanks! Yeah it’s amazing how much it changed
@real_airgot 3 жыл бұрын
@@alpha-9609 8 was shit, also Why Do You Talk Like This
@matthewe3813 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnnyblaze9217 windows 12 is the best
@BanjoeCommando 3 жыл бұрын
Microsoft: "Shhh... Let's not leak our hard work." Microsoft employee: "That sign can't stop me because I can't read."
@jgadventure Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@AshiqurRahman 3 жыл бұрын
In summery we can say they put a lot of hard work in it. Respect developpers
@Napoleon_Blownapart 3 жыл бұрын
But lack common sense in their work.
@nikhilmwarrier7948 3 жыл бұрын
@@Napoleon_Blownapart LOL, but designing a ui that is cohesive and plays well for all screen sizes from 4.5" to 32" is immensely difficult, especially at a position as Microsoft was in back then... They wanted to focus on mobile, which could potentially be really profitable, but they didn't want to sacrifice their home turf either... That was why both Windows Phone and Windows 8 flopped...
@tomyyoung2624 3 жыл бұрын
yes one: my sleep paralysis demon
@nikhilmwarrier7948 3 жыл бұрын
@@tomyyoung2624 yes one? Lol that has to be a meme!
@tomyyoung2624 3 жыл бұрын
Please! God! Yes! again!
@Bebble 4 жыл бұрын
The Windows 8 team: Can I copy your homework? The Windows Phone team: Yeah, make sure to change it up a bit.
@jerrymoadj.r.1911 4 жыл бұрын
lmfao....so true
@silvy7394 4 жыл бұрын
IKR
@Drives31forhalo 4 жыл бұрын
@CD Disk god damn I miss windows phone.
@melonoshi 4 жыл бұрын
You are so correct here that its unbelievable.
@xerzy 4 жыл бұрын
Well, the Windows Phone team took Metro UI from Zune, and the idea was to eventually merge everything (CE-based Windows Mobile/Phone, Zune, Windows 8 and Windows RT) into the same OS which almost happened with Windows 10 Mobile, but no one gave a shit
@davinp 4 жыл бұрын
Microsoft was trying to make Windows touch screen friendly for use on tablets/phones. You see at fast-food restaurants that their cash register have buttons you touch. THe problem is some things look good on a tablet, wouldn't look good on a desktop with a large screen and vise versa
@BigTylt 4 жыл бұрын
I wish they just added a switch where you could enable or disable the Charms Bar and the Metro screen.
@evancrazyerror 4 жыл бұрын
Kohina it’s not that people didn’t like it, sure yeah there were people that just hated it the look, but a lot of people just disliked the learning curve, the same reason why Windows 8 didn’t catch on in the enterprise. Windows 8 was the tablet operating system, Windows 8.1 was more fit for a desktop, and by update 3 you could disable the charms bar and have the computer boot to the desktop. But sadly most people had already written it off by then. It was also rumored that Windows 8 was going to get a start menu, but I’m guessing that Microsoft decided that Windows 8’s reputation was already too tarnished to try to repair it (like vista) and they moved on to a new project, Threshold. If you learned how to use Windows 8, it was just as efficient or even more than Windows 7. Search, for example, was much faster and more accurate and could be accessed by typing in the start screen. Microsoft’s vision relied on them breaking the almost 2 decade learning curve they established in ‘95. They got away with it in 1995 because Windows was much smaller and it was almost unanimously decided that Windows 95 had an easier interface than 3.1. They didn’t have those numbers in 2012 or in 2014. Windows 8’s plan was very similar to Windows 10. Have Windows run on everything, and have a small modern core that’s the same throughout each system (WinRT). If Windows 8 has shipped with a start menu, I feel like Windows 10 would’ve never been released and Windows 8 would’ve been the last version of Windows, we’d be on like Windows 8.6 by now. But that’s not how it is, and now we have to live with Windows 10, even with how buggy it is.
@MiiMaker 4 жыл бұрын
@@evancrazyerror Windows 8 aint that bad for me.
@Iwasonceadog. 4 жыл бұрын
@@MiiMaker Me too!
@AmanomiyaJun 4 жыл бұрын
@gooer Aesthetics are subjective. Some finds it hideous, some doesn’t mind it, and some likes it.
@Nelwyn 4 жыл бұрын
I liked 8.1. It was one of the few OSes I actually paid for. Disabling the metro view made it feel like an updated version of 7.
@lunagamingyt702 2 жыл бұрын
Windows 8 and Windows 8.1 is Windows 7 but its modern
@LinkiePup Ай бұрын
….. y-you could’ve disabled metro view??
@DrewTNaylor 4 жыл бұрын
So bizarre seeing a Windows 7-like UI go straight to a mostly-finished Start Screen on clicking the Start button.
@MichaelMJD 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, these builds are very unique. Definitely cool to take a look at
@FireFoxDestroyer 2 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelMJD hi mjd I know how to change dev channel to beta channel with the method that lets you install windows 11 on unsupported devices
@jcfb1470 4 жыл бұрын
This is very interesting. Seeing a mixture of windows 7 and 8 elements on this early builds. You should also do a windows 10 development history, it would be very interesting.
@jasonbrodbeck 4 жыл бұрын
Yes win 10
@marranin007 4 жыл бұрын
Win 10 is Windows what happens when windows 7 and windows 8 have a baby
@Petar321_GT 4 жыл бұрын
i remember when the public test version come out, before it was bloated with crap, i still have it on my dvd somewhere. i think it was 2015?
@evancrazyerror 4 жыл бұрын
Bill Gates 9841 was perfect. Windows 8 and Windows 7 start menu combined. They should’ve really just called it Windows 8.2. Then they just started changing stuff that no one really asked to be changed and then we ended up with the buggy mess that was build 10240 in May 2015.
@stevesstuff1450 4 жыл бұрын
Windows 10 is still a under development - a Work In Progress.... It has changed SO much from the initial mess of it's release to where it is now;being pretty good, it'd be very difficult to make a video of this type covering Windows 10 without it becoming out-of-date within weeks! Just this week we had a 'large' update that fixed whatever, and so it goes on... Windows 10 is not like the earlier, and easy to categorise Win 95, Win 98 (and 98SE), Win ME, Win XP, etc. Microsoft have said that Windows 10 is their final version, and it will be just built upon, and refined from now-on.... So for a video of that type, where do you stop? It would need updating every year or so just to stay relevant!!
@evancrazyerror 4 жыл бұрын
You know i never realized what “Shhh let’s not leak our hard work” really meant back in the day, before the redpill work around was found. Because for like so many builds it was the same UI, but the new stuff was right under our noses the entire time, I just find that amusing.
@GravyTheAwesome 4 жыл бұрын
youre that guy who was excited about the macbook unboxing from that archive series
@user-ss9zf2ep6r 4 жыл бұрын
Microsoft
@Windows7Pro2009 3 жыл бұрын
Will installing these beta builds of Windows 8 the current date and time work? Or should I change it to 2010/2011?
@_eesports 3 жыл бұрын
@@Windows7Pro2009 Microsoft had ended support for the betas somewhere in 2010 - 2012 so , yes you need to change the date before the support ended.
@lloydr 3 жыл бұрын
@@Windows7Pro2009 I think you will have to change it in bios because it’s a beta build
@aby2828 3 жыл бұрын
i have watched this video SO many times! it's so satisfying to see how it slowly changes from an old UI to Modern UI.
@zank8470 2 жыл бұрын
Windows 7 looks more better than Windows 8 even though the OS got a new look after the 8.1 update, Windows 7 just looks like it's great compared to Windows 8/8.1
@aspec1 2 жыл бұрын
@@zank8470 but windows 8.1 has fast boot and windows 7 don't have it
@cerasela4859 2 жыл бұрын
@@aspec1 yes but windows 7 boot is more funny cuz i like watching the dots rotating until the window gets complete
@Sasujerk 2 жыл бұрын
@@zank8470 I can't take a man seriously after they say "more better" 30000 times.
@methamphetamememcmeth3422 2 жыл бұрын
@@zank8470 If we're talking about looks, Windows 8 is miles better. Don't let boomer nostalgia cloud your judgement.
@hs_doubbing 4 жыл бұрын
I actually really enjoyed Windows 8 once I got used to it, especially after the 8.1 update. The start screen was extremely intuitive if you knew how to work it, and I loved to spend hours arranging all of my tiles in all their little groups. The whole thing somehow felt bigger than it was, I guess is the best way to explain how it made me feel. It felt futuristic, love it or hate it. I also loved how Google Chrome had a "Windows 8 mode" that launched it in a full-screen environment that was identical to the then-current iteration of the Chrome OS. Things like that are what make me miss the operating system.
@3DJapan 2 жыл бұрын
Having the larger icons on Start made it faster to click the icon you wanted.
@evila9076 2 жыл бұрын
@Random Gaming no idea why people are so obsessed with support, i'm still on 7 and hardly noticed the lack of microsoft support.
@n646n 2 жыл бұрын
@@evila9076 Office 365 is very hard to get working on 7 (though it is possible) and there's very many programs that no longer work on it.
@ananmuadi31 2 жыл бұрын
That's what I loved about Windows 8.x, I immediately got used to it one week after using it on my (formerly) new 2013 laptop, for me personally this was the best version of Windows ever (behind XP certainly). Even though I used Windows 10 since 2016 until (finally) upgrading to Windows 11 last year, I hated it so much for removing what Windows 8.x had, and I consider it as the worst version of Windows (worse than Windows ME... yes, I said that.), being bland, overbloated (more than 11 and 8.x combined), ugly UI, uncustomizable, the Store in Windows 10 felt like a downgrade to 8.x's, and the tablet mode is by far the worst thing ever... I miss Windows 8.x
@qhronoz1554 Жыл бұрын
@@evila9076 u still on windows 7?
@RollingTheOC 4 жыл бұрын
I remember my friend's dad used a beta version of 8. He always tried to hide it from me like I was some sort of spy
@zxcvb_bvcxz 4 жыл бұрын
Might have been under an NDA while using it.
@jakubbugajski1984 4 жыл бұрын
👀 Wow.
@barnacles1352 4 жыл бұрын
Adam Baxter but i mean he would still be a kid
@SirFaceFone 4 жыл бұрын
@@barnacles1352 Kids can still (intentionally or unintentionally) leak info about it.
@dieguito0512 3 жыл бұрын
today's mission: use windows 8 before rtm 😃👍
@dumb5308 4 жыл бұрын
i didn't know anything about pre-release builds of windows 8, thanks for making this video dude, very interesting!
@MichaelMJD 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@georgek4416 4 жыл бұрын
Same.
@supercreamypudding9841 4 жыл бұрын
i remember using Windows 8 Developer Preview back then as primary OS (and switch back again to Windows 7 for 3 weeks), and its very memorable for using some kind unstable build of Windows for the first time.
@li_tsz_fung 3 жыл бұрын
@@supercreamypudding9841 I've been following closely about pre-release Windows since Windows 7. All of them are great, not unstable, just some compatibility issues and something not available. Except Windows 10, it never feels like a finished product. I thought things become better in RTM, but no, still very beta like
@nicholasgawler-collins5754 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. It's a great video!
@TriangIe 2 жыл бұрын
I never had an issue with windows 8. Once I figured it out, I just pinned my most used programs to the start screen like control panel and this pc and if I needed to quickly search for something, I just used the charms menu.
@synexiasaturnds727yearsago7 2 жыл бұрын
some of these builds just give huge loads of nostalgia for some reason like it just takes me back to "2011 me on a rainy day in the car on my brother's iPad playing Minecraft and old games"
@Luke68028 4 жыл бұрын
I just remember that Windows 3.1 for pen computing was a thing.
@funnystoriesshorts481 4 жыл бұрын
Armin I like your profile pic "use razor leaf" yeah I watch pokemob
@emaa_m 4 жыл бұрын
@@funnystoriesshorts481 k
@brazgazz 4 жыл бұрын
@@funnystoriesshorts481 what? No one really cares. Pokemon is 30 years old now, everyone knows about it
@Elenrai 3 жыл бұрын
@@brazgazz Holy shit that was incorrect by more then half a decade!
@isakayyik966 2 жыл бұрын
@@Elenrai denmark
@WindowsOnWindows 4 жыл бұрын
Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong, but if I recall correctly, one of the Windows 8 developers recently said on Twitter that the "crossword" backgrounds actually form some sort of coded message, which has still yet to be cracked.
@jasonbrodbeck 4 жыл бұрын
I had never seen the crossword until this video and when I saw I thought, man there definitely has to be a message there lol
@wordart_guian 4 жыл бұрын
wasn't it Jensen harris who said it?
@BR0KK85 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe the message of the crossword puzzle has a meaning. Cloudnt you backtrack the leak to someone if they have the picture displayed in a Screenshot. Like a watermark
@amarioguy 4 жыл бұрын
The message was actually decoded, to form the phrase “Start Me Up” an interesting callback to the Windows 95 days (the background was not for security purposes)
@elcheapo9444 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. The patterns were a coded message to extraterrestrials.
@pivotman319 4 жыл бұрын
Correction: Development for Windows 8 began in the early 2010s. 7850 has a build date of 22nd September 2010, whereas 7700 (which is visually and functionally identical to Windows 7's RTM build) was compiled on the 22nd of January 2010, most possibly several days/weeks after 7652 (which was obviously an architecture implementation test and can be considered a post-RTM build). The date that shows on your install of 7850 was set to the 1st of January 2009, which is period-incorrect (as Windows 7 was indev during that period) and thus can timebomb your build and show the "not genuine" tag. Hope this helps with future videos.
@acidwizzardbastard 2 жыл бұрын
The consumer preview visual style is like the peak of Windows visual styles. Like, the squared-off Aero. Shit's BEAUTIFUL.
@addiesworld1855 4 жыл бұрын
I remember using the Microsoft Developer Preview when I was messing around with my computer as a kid. I even printed out the manual they had for a short time. It's so cool seeing the history of an OS I used in beta for almost a year. Thanks for the video and keep up the hard work!
@MichaelMJD 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it! Thanks so much
@zank8470 3 жыл бұрын
How did you use it as a kid and also hi @@MichaelMJD
@WorivpuqloDMogh 2 жыл бұрын
I installed it too lol. I remember it was 2011 i believe. I absolutely loved the start button
@ConsensusX 2 жыл бұрын
Same, contrary to most people, I actually fell in love with new Start menu, and cleaner design. I was like 14 when I installed it on my Thinkpad Tablet/Laptop.
@pmc_ 11 ай бұрын
Same here! I daily drove the Windows 7 beta & release candidate, and the Windows 8 developer & consumer previews when I was a kid.
@KommanderArtyom 4 жыл бұрын
I miss the old Windows 8.1 Start Shining Animation when the pointer is pointed on it. It was kinda cool though
@xpmyt341 4 жыл бұрын
sadly removed in win 10
@LuisMan123 4 жыл бұрын
I also wish the win7/8 style effect when hovering over programs in the taskbar was still there in windows 10
@rolandhazuki8787 4 жыл бұрын
Windows 8.1 + Classic shell = windows 7 2.0 😁👍 Im still using Windows 8.1 since 2013 still didn't want to update to windows 10
@sendboobs 4 жыл бұрын
@@rolandhazuki8787 ye same It's still a really good os but I'm upgrading next week
@vannila_a 3 жыл бұрын
@@rolandhazuki8787 do you still get updates?
@rGunti 4 жыл бұрын
I love how some of the prototype apps looks like a kid masched some apps together in Visual Studio and calling it an Operating System. Never mind I was such a kid back in the day lol
@berkeleymorrison 3 жыл бұрын
same
@icubedmusicmachine 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly loved windows 8. The moment I worked out how to use it properly it made so much more sense than the old start menu style.
@musicalneptunian 4 жыл бұрын
I had a drink at the Charms Bar. But then I spat out the drink.
@Jamesaepp 4 жыл бұрын
I SPILL MY DRINK!
@CaveyMoth 4 жыл бұрын
@@Jamesaepp What a shame.
@Jamesaepp 4 жыл бұрын
@@CaveyMoth He was a good man. *lip smack* What a rotten way to die.
@Killerspieler0815 3 жыл бұрын
@Musical Neptunian - Windows 8 was an absiolute horror to me & every time I set up a windows 8 PC new , the fist step is to get rid of the tiles
@NielsonLucas 3 жыл бұрын
More people preferred Windows 7 at the time, so (most) new PCs with Windows 8/8.1 preinstalled, they downgraded them to Windows 7.
@oliwiernowicki 4 жыл бұрын
16:25 This theme is better than official...
@ThatLinuxDude 4 жыл бұрын
I mean, literally every Windows 8 build theme is better than the final one TBH. Though 8 RP IMHO is the best rendition of Aero made, with Windows 7 Aero coming at a close second.
@AdityaGupta-sd6rg 3 жыл бұрын
the store tile at 18:50 looks so much better... wish they kept it in final release and carried it over to 10.
@Sasujerk 2 жыл бұрын
for windows phone it was there
@jakobgii 4 жыл бұрын
"How do you do things on Windows 8?" -danooct1
@skoda8666 4 жыл бұрын
The Zika virus video.
@ewjfpoefjwoiefj 4 жыл бұрын
@@skoda8666 Thanks
@OhNotThat 4 жыл бұрын
Microsoft Bob UI > Windows 8 "Metro" UI
@daemonspudguy 4 жыл бұрын
"I miss the start menu"
@Sheikh_Speare 4 жыл бұрын
Love that dust mite with sunglasses picture lol
@MondySpartan 4 жыл бұрын
I still remember when Windows 8 was barely new. Remember seeing the “Building Windows 8” video back in 2011.
@BigTylt 4 жыл бұрын
I still remember figuring out how to get the Windows 8 Consumer Preview running on my dinky Inspiron 1501.
@justmorry7581 2 жыл бұрын
13:27 The folder is from windows 11.
@notcheems2783 3 жыл бұрын
I used windows 8 for ~5 years. When I upgraded to Windows 10, it was a blast how much I was missing out on.
@evila9076 2 жыл бұрын
U chose to use a joke of an os. What do you expect.
@Bready- Жыл бұрын
@@evila9076 you're an 8 year old who probably never even tried windows 8
@sjlpuff1057 Жыл бұрын
@@evila9076 calm down it isnt that bad 😭
@XPNGamer 11 ай бұрын
@@evila9076 bro it's not that deep
@feefre 4 жыл бұрын
16:35 i love this charms menu
@bowltm 4 жыл бұрын
no one: my sleep paralysis demon: 13:52
@chrisrlillo 4 жыл бұрын
lmao
@trumpetsrlife9692 4 жыл бұрын
creepy
@emaa_m 4 жыл бұрын
That's my least favourite win7 wallpaper
@DJcyberslash 4 жыл бұрын
Kinky
@zororoa1610 4 жыл бұрын
Oh no . Why did I click on this ? I almost forgot about this . Shit
@keijijohnson9754 4 жыл бұрын
17:45 - Every since I saw this video the first time around, I’ve found this glitchy background to be more symbolic in the way of how far this has gotten. Like that black and white side is representing Windows‘ nearing the end of its transformation. Like it’s kinda dying as it reaches the final phases of its developer betas. And that completely blank side of the background is like a representation of its eventual death and rebirth of sorts into the final version of Windows 8. Like that fish that was shown in those boot up screens in later beta builds? Maybe the reason why that was never seen in the final release is because that was made to... Like it existed in order to guide Windows to its reincarnation of being the final version of Windows 8 when it was nearing completion.
@MaakaSakuranbo 4 жыл бұрын
Okay, but what did you smoke?
@NotJohnTanner 2 жыл бұрын
@@MaakaSakuranbo probably crack
@porterhouse937 2 жыл бұрын
I loved Windows 8.1, my favorite Windows release. Even bought a Windows Phone, great device.
@emirvmendoza 4 жыл бұрын
I remember being excited about Windows 8's development. The Metro UI wasn't as beautiful as Aero. (Still bummed that our future went to flat squares instead of sleek glass.) But like "Longhorn", Microsoft in Windows 8 took a leap of faith, a gutsy move. I still want "Treehouse Stampede" from the Developer Preview to be ported to Windows 10. It is the only game I know which encouraged making a long word out of three given letters. Thanks for this trip back, Michael MJD.
@SnowBunneh 4 жыл бұрын
13:53 Well that was horrifying.
@yoshi64dd Жыл бұрын
I'm running away from the background
@timiko4 3 жыл бұрын
I really liked Win 8. It was very snappy and smooth running for me. Learned really fast to use it and work better than on 7. But yeah, it could be inconsistent in mixing two interfaces, 8.1 fixed a lot.
@lunagamingyt702 2 жыл бұрын
Windows 8 and Windows 8.1 are very simular
@TassieLorenzo 2 жыл бұрын
I found Windows 8 infuriating. Especially on my convertible tablet, the graphics wouldn't even render the same in terms of colour and resolution in Metro mode as Desktop mode, which was incredibly jarring on the MANY occasions the interface switches back and forth between the two. For example, you would swipe in to open settings from the right-hand bar in Desktop, then that would go into full screen Metro setting screen, then you click to get more options and then it would just go back to the desktop mode and load the old control panel app for that setting (say keyboard or mouse) from years ago -- infuriating! :) Also, who though this was a good idea: "Something went wrong *:(*" way to irritate users when their computer crashes!
@hlscientist8760 2 жыл бұрын
Windows 8 was my first OS I experienced. It was amazing.
@rpeetz 4 жыл бұрын
Alternative title: how to ruin a perfectly good O.S by thinking that everything is a tablet
@CubicApocalypse128 4 жыл бұрын
Windows 10 would be "trying to fix the OS you ruined by thinking that everything is a tablet, by thinking that everything is your mom's laptop." Ffs Microsoft, I don't want Candy Crush, and my hacked-together FrankenPC is not a "device."
@axethepenguin 4 жыл бұрын
when you think about it it is a device so according to the meaning in wikipedia
@thepotatoof4219 4 жыл бұрын
How Microsoft wanted to appeal to the lowest common denominator.
@serge4192 4 жыл бұрын
@@CubicApocalypse128 the Windows 8.1 fixes.
@CubicApocalypse128 4 жыл бұрын
@@axethepenguin When I hear "device" I think of a polished, mass-produced piece of technology that Just Works straight out of the box. My PC came in like 17 different boxes over the last few years, has generally needed quite a bit of maintenance, dual-boots Windows 7 *and* 10, and I've broken both of those a few times trying to patch it to allow custom themes. (I could go on all day about how Win10 goes out of its way to keep me from having a perfect dark mode, but that's for another time.) Hell, I've had to cut out part of the case just to fit the GPU in, and there's a piece of styrofoam between two of the hard drives so they don't vibrate so much. One of my monitors is salvaged from my old laptop. My PC is to a "device" what the Millennium Falcon is to a Ferrari.
@DDbenkoDD 4 жыл бұрын
Despite it being unsuccessful commercially, I think Windows 8 was an important stepping stone in what we perceive as Windows today. And the system was fast. Like, super fast. It was my favourite Windows at the time, and I think it was refined pretty well 8.1 and the next update in 2014. Too bad it (still) lacked in UX :(
@omar_5352 4 жыл бұрын
It was and still my favorite too. And yeah, it was fast. Faster than win7 on my old laptop. Happy to see someone agreeing with me on this for the first time.But I am not sure I agree with you about 8.1, once the update came, the system started to be slow.
@virtualtools_3021 4 жыл бұрын
@@omar_5352 my graphics card is so stupid, that the XP drivers are more up to date than the 8 drivers, so i will not run 8
@DannyBeans 4 жыл бұрын
I run it with Classic Shell, and am perfectly happy with it.
@thepotatoof4219 4 жыл бұрын
@@virtualtools_3021 Your GPU has standards. No need to be angry at it. Just get Win 10.
@justsomerandompersononthei2595 3 жыл бұрын
The Potato Of 42 WinPadOS 10 is going to be even worse, just let that guy do what he/she wants.
@kvdrr 4 жыл бұрын
12:40 that's the fish from an early win7 build's wallpaper in the corner!
@justsomerandompersononthei2595 3 жыл бұрын
Right Corner perhaps, you can see the Betta fish.
@LightTheUnicorn 4 жыл бұрын
I remember playing with the Developer and Consumer preview versions (in a VM, very, very slowly!) back then. It was very novel and different! Didn't actually mind the start screen that much, what drove me crazy was the missing "Start" button, especially in RDP sessions or when trying to explain to my parents how it worked. Luckily 8.1 fixed a lot of that weirdness, and Windows 10 brought things down to earth again even further.
@JohnArktor 2 жыл бұрын
Oh rdp and start screen. I still have nightmares of it
@Blubatt 4 жыл бұрын
Looking back on Windows 8, I think what bugged me most was that it felt like a huge mismatch of different things. You had your desktop, you had a new start menu, you had apps, you have your windows programs. It looked messy and unfinished. At least with Windows 10, they're working on it. Windows 10 at least feels more coherent to use.
@justsomerandompersononthei2595 3 жыл бұрын
Windows 10 is a Tablet OS, it's nearly unusable without heavy modifications.
@MicroChirp 3 жыл бұрын
Windows 10 is an even worse mishmash. There's regular windows, tablet windows (like the settings menu), Windows Explorer has ribbons from Office 2010, Group Policy editor still looks like in XP, what a mess.
@Blubatt 3 жыл бұрын
@@MicroChirp I agree that Windows does have a huge problem with consistency in all of its windows software, though it seems like with Windows 10, they are starting to fix it...albeit as piecemeal
@arteonyx 3 жыл бұрын
I don't really understand all the hate since for me, Windows 10 is just... fine. Like sure I'm using a 4gb ram laptop with a dual-core processor, but there's nothing wrong. One thing tho, Win 10 feels big compared to Windows 7, like Vista is compared to XP back then.
@Blubatt 2 жыл бұрын
@@aidancommenting I made that comment a good year ago, but I disagree. I said in my original comment that I feel that Windows 10 was starting to become more coherant, in terms of the software as a whole. Windows 11 has continued that so far. It is Windows 10, but with a bit more polish and a lot more ambition. And its a big step up in terms of unifying the whole look of the OS, at least for what most users access.
@stevenjlovelace 4 жыл бұрын
I never used Windows 8, other than occasionally helping my dad with his computer. As for my machines. I kept using 7 until 10 came out.
@0Wayland 4 жыл бұрын
Same, I switched to W10 when Ryzen 3000 series released mid 19'.
@PolarasX 4 жыл бұрын
Same
@laharl2k 4 жыл бұрын
Im still on win7 on my 1055T.
@Dr.Mohandes 4 жыл бұрын
@@laharl2k change your os, it's so insecure to run an outdated os as your main os
@dutchgamingvaultNL 4 жыл бұрын
Same here
@SGTMacBC 4 жыл бұрын
I must be one of the few that like 8.1. It has the quickest boot time of any MS OS I have used. Even on mechanical drives. I refurbish and sell old PC's, and use it quite often. It is a good mix of Windows 7 and 10.
@dennisgellert1742 4 жыл бұрын
Fair enough Microsoft wanting a touch screen version of Windows, but Windows 8 on a desktop was a horrible mess - Microsofts biggest mistake. I stayed with Win 7 until I had to upgrade to 10.
@brazgazz 4 жыл бұрын
7 was bad compared to how good 10 is today
@tamilwarrior8420 3 жыл бұрын
what? how did you have to upgrade to 10?
@tsntana 3 жыл бұрын
@@tamilwarrior8420 A little something called the EOL. Some people mind it, some people ignore it.
@dennisgellert1742 3 жыл бұрын
@@tamilwarrior8420 Work laptop. No choice
@justsomerandompersononthei2595 3 жыл бұрын
Windows 10 without extremely heavy modifications is also a mess on desktop; touch screen crap is everywhere.
@DDbenkoDD 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this vid! I haven't seen much on the development of Windows 8, this was a great overview.
@MichaelMJD 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@domibark 4 жыл бұрын
One thing I thought was interesting was that the Aero Glass interface was updated during development of Windows 8 to be able to run on lower end graphics hardware, using software rendering as a fallback. Yet they ended up removing Aero Glass entirely in the final build.
@justsomerandompersononthei2595 3 жыл бұрын
They still use that engine, just that Aero is gone.
@stormworks4882 3 жыл бұрын
windows 8.1 is my favorite OS to date. i have a disk of windows 8.1 i bought in 2014 and every time i re install i disable updates and it runs flawlessly forever
@ChristianKalusky 4 жыл бұрын
This was a really interesting video! Thank you so much for it! Didn’t know a lot of these things 🙂🙌🏻
@Peppermint-Palace 4 жыл бұрын
Windows 8 wasn't very bad, I (during it's popularity) had loved it. The touchscreen based U.I had seemed fascinating to me
@WolfieMar 4 жыл бұрын
I Tried Windows 8 Development Builds A While Ago And Now Seeing A Video Of It Is Great.
@HomieBox 4 жыл бұрын
Nice seeing you again, patatje joppie guy!
@andi 4 жыл бұрын
This was so interesting to watch! Thanks for the great video!
@MichaelMJD 4 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome! Glad you liked it
@EthanJonesEthanJones 4 жыл бұрын
This was the most interesting video I have watched in a long time. I downloaded and installed every version of windows 8 possible and its so cool what was underneath
@novatiberium 4 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed Windows 8 when it came out and still have my copy from 8 years ago!
@JaymeEduardo 4 жыл бұрын
8 hours ago
@rpdee7344 4 жыл бұрын
I have a copy too for 32 and 64 builts, it sucked, back to using Win 7 Pro, and Win 10 Home on a recent computer purchase cause of all the hardware changes to keep things working, Win 10 to me is Win 8.5 sucks with the floating squares, let me please set the old default menu retro Windows, please.
@TEDodd 4 жыл бұрын
Win 8 was fine with something like Classic Shell to get back the desktop and start menu. I installed immediately after Win 8 and never suffered the Metro UI. Eventually updated to 8.1 (though no rush with Classic Shell). I have access to machines with 10 (use at work) and find no reason to update to 10 vs my 8/8.1 setup.
@johnnguyen8172 4 жыл бұрын
Informative video, MJD! I still have Windows 8 running on some machines. Underrated or not.
@nikhilfriedman9324 4 жыл бұрын
This is such a cool video! It provides such an insight on how operating systems are made.
@EpicBr0 3 жыл бұрын
I actually installed windows 8 on my first custom pc when I was 14, and I honestly liked it. It looked so new and modern and colorful compared to windows 7.
@lemonbirdo1353 4 жыл бұрын
Caution: this video contains a minor jumpscare.
@jasonbrodbeck 4 жыл бұрын
lmao 13:50
@silvercoulter 4 жыл бұрын
Everytime he opens the start screen?
@lemonbirdo1353 4 жыл бұрын
@@silvercoulter haha
@CaveyMoth 4 жыл бұрын
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
@zank8470 2 жыл бұрын
@@silvercoulter And that
@Quantum_Prophet42 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Michael!! Very interesting. I love these historical development videos. Keep them coming!
@MichaelMJD 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad you liked the video
@justanenderman9668 3 жыл бұрын
15:02 lol that date is my birthday 😂
@mohcrabtree 3 жыл бұрын
oh
@bjm1219 3 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this video! I’d really like to learn more about public reaction and the development of 8.1
@ne0ndev648 4 жыл бұрын
Such a great video! I personally love Windows 8.1, other people seem to like it for the wrong reasons. From what I've experienced Windows 8.1 is the fastest os I've ever had. It even ran on a Pentium 4. Such a lovely OS. Nice video! Windows 10 Development history will also be a great Idea!
@sirfairplay9153 4 жыл бұрын
windows 8.1 is rock solid, it is a better OS than windows 7
@justsomerandompersononthei2595 3 жыл бұрын
TheQuantumMadness Agreed, Micro$haft WinPadOS 10 has too much Tablet UI crap as well. At least with 8.1 you can avoid Metro.
@WedgeStratos 4 жыл бұрын
I remember running the Windows 8 Developer Preview on my main rig, even made the mistake of installing AMD's beta drivers for the thing, which resulted in quite the buggy sight on games like Team Fortress 2. Polygons missing textures in places, the game was basically unplayable. I think that was also the point that Microsoft killed support for the older driver standard they'd used with XP ,Vista and 7, as they did a full leap to WDDM, so things that worked fine on Windows 7 may not work anymore on Windows 8.
@citrusui 4 жыл бұрын
Really enjoying the recent return of Windows development videos. It's been quite some time since the first videos on Whistler and Longhorn came out. Would like to see a video on 8.1 development and/or 10 (I realize the last one might not be doable, as Windows 10 still has the same basic feature set since its introduction in 2015... plus, development of Win10 is not over yet!)
@andydong4122 4 жыл бұрын
One of your best videos yet!
@fiverZ 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video! I never saw anything about the UI of the early builds like this before. Maybe you could do a video about the development of 8.1 and the changes between the two.
@davinp 4 жыл бұрын
They also made WIndows flat again like in Windows 3.1, removing Windows 7's beautiful aero
@fm00078 4 жыл бұрын
YAAaaa... eye candy is fattening.
@syntheticdawn4992 4 жыл бұрын
Speak to yourself classictheme is best simple and nice
@brazgazz 4 жыл бұрын
I prefer flat Windows
@syntheticdawn4992 4 жыл бұрын
it also used to be possible to set the classic theme in flat mode i think tclock on win95 (for the taskbar)
@zomzomtheungodlycapitalist 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine preferring metro over aero lol
@vinyl.croatia 3 жыл бұрын
Windows 8.1 was (and still is) sure the most beautiful looking windows ever (after 7). Yes, it is looking pretty similar to windows 7, but just with more modern design.
@noname-sk6zk Жыл бұрын
I agree. Metro by far has to be my favorite design Microsoft has ever made. Something about the way it's designed and how it changes across different devices is very pleasing to me, some feeling no other UI has been able to replicate.
@DIVECRAFTVODS 10 ай бұрын
I loved Windows 8, because I first used it the year it released to the public, when I was turning 8 years old in 2012.
@simont1299 4 жыл бұрын
Today I learnt.....winver. I have been administering Windows for nearly 20 years and never knew this.
@EneaX6 4 жыл бұрын
Simon T omg lol
@astral2048 4 жыл бұрын
lol
@ckh.joseph 4 жыл бұрын
Who else is still using Windows 8.1 now? I just find it a bit more light weight and snappier than 10, and in general less buggy
@MatlawtheGeek 4 жыл бұрын
Same. I'm using Windows 8 since the Consumer Preview as my main OS. Even though I think Win8.1 is great and better than both 10 and 7, I find 8.0 more appealing in some ways. I'm going to stick with the 8.1 until the support is over + 6 months.
@JerrySM64 4 жыл бұрын
I was using Windows 8.1 until Windows 10 came out, upgraded and after 2 days I rolled back to 8.1 on my old laptop. Unfortunately I'm stuck on 10 with my current desktop PC, as it likes to trigger the reset signal on 8.1 (And only on 8.1!) for some reason and I found no way of preventing it. Windows 8.1 is my favorite OS together with Windows Vista and Windows XP. I hated Windows 7 tho.
@christianthompson1839 4 жыл бұрын
I would continue to use it, but unfortunately my CPU doesn’t support it
@enigmatix6224 4 жыл бұрын
@@JerrySM64 Im interested to know why you dislike windows 7 but you like windows xp and vista
@rolandhazuki8787 4 жыл бұрын
Windows 8.1 + Classic shell = windows 7 2.0 😁👍 Im still using Windows 8.1 since 2013 still didn't want to update to windows 10
@another-niko-pfp-holder 3 ай бұрын
13:52 That was the best worst jumpscare I've ever experienced in my life
@farhysthunterz6654 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video...this how i spend covid quality time for old knowledge
@miket.220 2 жыл бұрын
I was ok with Win 8.1. I loaded Classic Shell, set Windows to default to desktop and used it like a non-aero Win 7. Worked fine. Actually, it is still one of my favorite versions of Windows. Simple, uncluttered, no telemetry.
@reoencarcelado5904 Жыл бұрын
@Mike-T.: It had Telemetry (except that Microsoft made more of an effort to hide it from common-knowledge of the general-public). Windows 8 was the first version of Windows to add on to the Microsoft "End-User Licence Agreement" "we reserve the right to scan your pictures, photos, videos, music-files, and other documents, when-&-if we believe we have "good faith" to do so. and only we at Microsoft have the to make that determination of " *when* is it "good faith" to do so?" ". *AND* Windows 8 was also the *first* version of Windows to force you to have a Microsoft account (ie. an account of an already-existing Microsoft product (Hotmail. Skype. etc)) *just* to be able to log-in to your computer. As Bart Simpson would say (in regards to all those "looking over your shoulder" practices): "Ay Caramba!"
@muchadoaboutnothing6196 3 жыл бұрын
I had a first gen Surface with 8.1 and loved it, the charms and revised start screen were so easy to use on the surface. The tablet feature in Win10 was a huge downgrade imho, if they kept the 8.1 interface for tablets and 2-1 devices while simultaneously working to fix the desktop experience for laptops and desktops would have been the best of both worlds.
@justsomerandompersononthei2595 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@Cyber_Official 4 жыл бұрын
Surprised you didn't notice. The Sudoku puzzle in the middle was no random puzzle The Sudoku puzzle was the ID of the build, only certain teams within windows had certain sudoku puzzles IDs. After the Major release of the first build leak, the puzzle was added to later builds. When the windows 8 project was full release layoffs happened within the teams that leaked the unfinished builds. This is the same method they used to catch leakers of the xbox 360 dash board with the water like rings giving out the console UUID in binary format in the console's home menu.
@DSCKottawa 2 жыл бұрын
The games which came with the developer preview were amazing. And of course I remember installing all 3 previews when they were subsequently released.
@DSCKottawa 2 жыл бұрын
@Jelly11 Beta Fixed it, must've been a glitch, I don't recall posting it twice
@guitarzilla555 3 жыл бұрын
Windows 8 is still a great OS if you use a Start Menu replacement like Classic Shell. It's like Windows 10 without the bloatware.
@mutsumiomori 2 жыл бұрын
What is bloatware?
@unchi1999 2 жыл бұрын
And without the annoying problems or spying!
@unchi1999 2 жыл бұрын
@@mutsumiomori It's like a program that you don't want on your computer that is pre-installed that causes your computer to run very slowly.
@ahmedwalid809 3 жыл бұрын
3:15 I think he was referring to UWA (Universal Windows App) platform which then become UWP (Universal Windows Platform) in Windows 10 which makes you able to write one app with one code that works on every Windows device (PCs, Tablets, Windows Phone (Which later become Windows 10 Mobile), Xbox, Windows Embedded 8/8.1 (Which later become Windows IOT)) as these devices were all running Windows with the same Kernel/Core and even with the same UI (same UI was planned to be on Windows 10 Mobile in a sort of Microsoft CShell (Composable Shell) but then canceled but there were some Insider builds with this feature). This is the most useful and awesome feature in Windows imo especially the new UWP awesome controls, APIs, and modern fluent design Great Video BTW 👌
@jasperzhang3832 4 жыл бұрын
Love this series.
@airfixer9461 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, great research done...tops..congrats with that ;-)
@zackruddle9936 4 жыл бұрын
"One of your least favorite releases of windows" Laughs in ME and Vista
@ranjanbiswas3233 3 жыл бұрын
All 3 are bad
@diglis1033 3 жыл бұрын
One OS: Bob
@ranjanbiswas3233 3 жыл бұрын
@@MaoTao Wait what
@zomzomtheungodlycapitalist 3 жыл бұрын
Ranjan Biswas Yeah, after Microsoft fixed all the bugs it was pretty nice
@Wockes 3 жыл бұрын
@@MaoTao Only problem I had with it was how slow it was. It got better with time because computers got faster. I still remember the 10 min startup times
@Manuozaur 4 жыл бұрын
Can you do next "The History of Windows 10 Development" ?
@zank8470 3 жыл бұрын
He did it!
@dvdicb9167 Жыл бұрын
I love your videos and for me you are a great youtuber!
@madden8021 4 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for The History of Windows 10 Development video in the future.
@MichaelMJD 4 жыл бұрын
It's coming! : )
@didi_abdillah 4 жыл бұрын
2:32 when you want to high tech but still love old product
@_xwtk 4 жыл бұрын
I actually love Windows 8 so much! I liked the new redesign... but well... not everybody liked it and in Windows 10, there is no way to make it look like Windows 8/8.1 anymore... Even if enabled the "full start menu" option :(
@toniamagnisali8214 4 жыл бұрын
I agree, I prefer windows 8 with classic shell than windows 10
@EneaX6 4 жыл бұрын
:)
@NopWorks 4 жыл бұрын
Me too. I missed the Windows 8 Start Screen, Charms bar, Slick animation, and Tracked gestures. I wish there was an _option_ to bring these elements back (maybe the Tablet Mode? They've kinda abandoned it). These would've been great for touch. I wish someone would port these Windows 8 elements back to Windows 10, like how someone ported Windows Phone 10 UI to regular desktop Windows 10.
@justsomerandompersononthei2595 3 жыл бұрын
Tonia Magnisali Same, at least with 8.1 Metro can be avoided, while with 10 you can't avoid UWP.
@nickjeffrey8050 4 жыл бұрын
Also watched ur windows 10 video.. both were amazing
@Gizmo34 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly liked the windows 8 start menu. Liked how sorta futuristic it looked.
@CherryTv_CUP 4 жыл бұрын
Where can I get the desktop background from the windows version at 16:12
@noahplayzgaming1452 2 жыл бұрын
Windows 8 is one of my favourite Operating systems
@daviddave4985 4 жыл бұрын
Yes I WAITED THIS VIDEO FOR SOOOO LONG
@voca-chan7953 2 жыл бұрын
I actually love Windows 8.1. The sounds, the theme, it's all cool and I like it.
@RavenholmZombie 4 жыл бұрын
MJD: "Windows 8" Me: **[has ptsd flashbacks to that evil start screen]**
@AshiqurRahman 3 жыл бұрын
I still prefer Aero Glass over Windows 10 Look
@justsomerandompersononthei2595 3 жыл бұрын
Same. There is a way to get Aero Glass, but if you want something more authentic, then there is a program that lets you use the Basic theme with DWM on.
@RavenholmZombie 3 жыл бұрын
I liked the Aero look that the Windows 8 Developer Preview had. It was like a hybrid of Aero Glass and the modern design we have today. I wish they kept that as an option for Windows 10
@classicallemur1190 3 жыл бұрын
@@RavenholmZombie ik I'm late but windows 10 has a hidden aero lite theme
@PhantomWorksStudios 3 жыл бұрын
@@classicallemur1190 for now.....
@HalfLife3onSteamPLZ 3 жыл бұрын
@misha 99fr window blinds is not free at all. enjoy your bank account draining.
@trainman2615 3 жыл бұрын
When Windows 8 was being developed, I remember a whole bunch of other features like 3D desktops. I wonder what happened to those? (Or maybe they were merely rumors?) I also remember the first reviews of the Windows 8 developer preview, where the developer preview got praise for having the metro interface not only in a couple of places, but pretty much everywhere in the OS. Needless to say, that statement didn't age well.
@dhruvvaria 3 жыл бұрын
I Really enjoyed and liked fluid metro ui of 8.1, it felt lot smoother than 10
@Rouxenator 4 жыл бұрын
Very cool video. I used classic shell on Windows 8 and 8.1. The reason I upgraded to 8 was it was way faster and better built than 7. There is so much more to an OS than the UI.
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