The History & Origin of the Bagpipes

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The Lost Antiquarian

The Lost Antiquarian

5 жыл бұрын

Correction! from 15:00 should be "300-350ad"
If there's one bagpipe site I'd recomend. Also a source of some of the Medieval images I used.
www.prydein.com/pipes/

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@themis1990zax
@themis1990zax 3 жыл бұрын
I feel the need to comment on this video, first and foremost as an archaeologist. There's a couple important things people need to understand about archaeology and ancient history; Firstly, archaeological and historical research is a highly hypotheses-based science, characterised by ambiguity and subjectiveness. The way we "prove" a material's utility is usually by comparing it to other finds and their use in a specific context, and then make a hypothesis about the material at hand. So, understandably, there is always a large room for mistakes. The second thing is that no one can ever know for sure what an item was used for and how. One more important thing to remember is that not all kinds of materials survive through time, depending on the environment. Items made of organic material such as reeds, wood or leather or skin tend to dissolve through time, while items made of bone or antler or metal tend to be more resilient. Unfortunately that means that perhaps there have been such instruments at some point of time but it is impossible for us to find them.The last thing - and this is important and people seem to never even consider it - is that people all over the world had about the same ideas about several things as they evolved through time, you know. It wasn't ONE man who invented fishing, nor was it one man who invented the spear. The pipe and the use of a bag as a reservoir could easily have been "invented" at multiple locations in different cultures around the world at about the same time. There doesn't have to be a one single source in everything. Now, personally, as I have delved into the search for the origins of the bagpipes myself, I would put the origin of the idea of using a bag as an air reservoir - and in extent, the birth of the bagpipe - at around the end of the millennium in the Ancient Greek environment. From what I have gathered, I would argue that the Egyptians and Ancient Greeks had the double reed pipe (diaulos) but the bagpipe itself (askaulos) is indeed mentioned in several ancient Greek sources as "Dionysu's bag"; i.e Athenaei Naucratitae Dipnosophistarum libri, Aristotel in Problems and the most important one, Polydeukes in Onomastikon. In this book written in the 1st century BC, he mentions that "we have no prove that it (the bagpipe) was known anywhere else but for the Ancient Greeks ("Οὐδὲν ἔχομεν μαρτύριον, ἄν ὑπῆρξε γνωστὸς παρὰ τοῖς αρχαῖοι Ἓλλησιι"). I'd say that's the most concrete evidence we have so far. *Fun fact about the term "Dionysu's bag", there is actually an ancient Greek myth about the creation of the bagpipe (askaulos), I could try and write it in English here if anyone is interested. Kinda hard to come up with these info if you don't speak Ancient Greek though so I understand why these weren't part of your study. There's actually Master's Thesises written on this subject, but they are in Greek :/ P.S. Nice video and nice work! :)
@TheHangingWood
@TheHangingWood 3 жыл бұрын
No I don't speak ancient Greek and I did mention in the vid, that there could be plenty more sources I missed. One has already been shown in Irelaad by another commenter, only known to him, he uncovered himself. Also there's a strong Balkans piping tradition, presentday and ancent, which not speaking their languages I have little knowledge of. So any additional information would be great.... PS my next vid I'm working on now will be on archaeology.
@jacobbarker544
@jacobbarker544 2 жыл бұрын
Where is the myth recorded?
@Arizona9001
@Arizona9001 2 жыл бұрын
First long boy comment I’ve read, worth it. Thanks!
@masonponton3077
@masonponton3077 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheHangingWood Do you happen to know how old the Irish source is? I'm looking for evidence of Anglo Saxon bagpipes.
@brianreynolds9931
@brianreynolds9931 5 жыл бұрын
You've put a serious amount of work into making this. Fascinating!
@h.washingtonsawyer6614
@h.washingtonsawyer6614 2 жыл бұрын
Instead of "the history and origin of the bagpipes" this ought to be titled: "Everything the history and origins of bagpipes IS NOT". But it is a very good project. As someone who knows a lot about all kinds of bagpipes, I also get very tired of the " Magic Celtic Warlords played their Mystic Bagpipes in Ancient Fairy Times!!!!!!!!" stuff that the internet is infested with. Thanks.
@patrickcannady2066
@patrickcannady2066 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, that selltick bagpipes nonsense and the Gaelic cultural nationalist nonsense are all BS. There are inconvenient facts about such instruments and their traditions that purveyors of such narratives would rather not acknowledge and it gets very tiresome…not to mention more than a little racist.
@greghenrikson952
@greghenrikson952 19 күн бұрын
Everyone seems determined to find some ancient origin, when it's pretty obvious that all of these instruments are based on shawms. I mean they were played alongside shawms all over Europe and still are in many places. Brittany for example. I get tired of hearing about how it's some kind of hoodoo-celtic nonsense.
@h.washingtonsawyer6614
@h.washingtonsawyer6614 18 күн бұрын
@@greghenrikson952 Well, a lot of western European bagpipes have chanters of the shawm type. A "shawm" meaning a reedpipe with a double-reed and a conical bored pipe (like an oboe). But all the eastern European, Mediterranean, African and Asian bagpipes have chanters of the hornpipe type. A hornpipe meaning a reedpipe with a single-reed and a cylindrical bored pipe (like a clarinet). There is no doubt that the single-reed is the older design. Western Europeans apparently combined the shawm with the bagpipe sometime in the late Middle Ages, possibly in Spain. The "shawm" type is popular in Spain, France, Italy, the British Isles, the Low Countries, and western Germany, but the rest of the world has never stopped playing the single-reed types that show no "shawm" influence.
@joalexsg9741
@joalexsg9741 3 жыл бұрын
Really reliable information and most useful to a solid introduction to the subject in public education. Thank you so much for such an accurate video and congratulations for the amazing work!
@ladybugbaldiga7358
@ladybugbaldiga7358 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. We average working people who want to know things. Who do not have the time to look things up appreciate your work. The bagpipes is a majestic instrument. I think you play wonderfully.
@bargh70
@bargh70 3 жыл бұрын
I personally believe that the origin of the instrument should be sought with the Proto-Indo-Europeans or around the Anatolian/Greek Black Sea region. The word CHOROS or bladder pipe is coincidentally just like the Greek χορός (horos or round dance). South Slavic word HORO also means a circular folk dance. Such dances are ancient in origin and typical in Eastern Europe, Greece and Anatolia. It is often accompanied by an instrument, often a bag pipe. Choros is in the etymology of Choir and Chorus. It might be connected to the Sanskrit word HARATI which can also mean "to carry an instrument". South Slavic word for bagpipe is GAIDA which is almost identical to Spanish/Galician GAITA. Also similar to Georgian/Anatolian GUDA and Central Euopean DUDA. It's an onomatopoeia word which means it phonetically resembles the sound of the thing its describing. Which points to the earliest source of the word as onomatopoeias are how natural language forms. Proto-Indo-European formed around the Black Sea region and Anatolia.
@cardenmanning2455
@cardenmanning2455 Жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention the Romanian word HORA which means the same circular folk dance, and Romanian word CIMPOI (chimpoy) which means bagpipes.
@greghenrikson952
@greghenrikson952 19 күн бұрын
Every bit of evidence is that the bagpipes as we know them are built around shawms. I'm not sure why there's so much resistance to just admitting the incredibly obvious. Whatever bag pipe tradition existed before the 11th century in Europe, after that all the pipes across the land were shawm-based and typically played alongside shawms. Chanters *ARE* shawms.
@robehickmann
@robehickmann 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making such a well researched resource.
@shrewsbrewery183
@shrewsbrewery183 Жыл бұрын
This was really interesting, thanks you've obviously put a lot of work into this
@daankuijt4563
@daankuijt4563 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: the germans probably weren't the only ones to name a bagpipe after bees. The drone pipe is (or so I've heard) called drone pipe because it also resembles the droning of a bee, plus a male honey bee is also called a drone.
@AcceleratingUniverse
@AcceleratingUniverse 2 жыл бұрын
best history video i have ever seen, on youtube or otherwise
@georgethompson1460
@georgethompson1460 3 жыл бұрын
It seems the bagpipe was a ubiquitous instrument throughout european history, one of those things that gets invented several times over due to the elegance of the idea.
@cardenmanning2455
@cardenmanning2455 Жыл бұрын
What can be said about origin of bagpipes is that almost certainly bagpipes did not appear in Middle Ages. As you mentioned, in South-Eastern Europe, or what some would call Balkans, this instrument is well known as a traditional folk instrument, very old, even ancestral. And taking into consideration the animosity between Western Catholic Europe (later Protestant too) and Eastern Orthodox Europe (Byzantine) where these two different Christian worlds did not borrow from each other as seeing each other more like enemies, I don't see bagpipes as an invention of Middle Ages. It is rather more developed and improved in Middle Ages but almost certainly has its origins in Roman times or even earlier. The Romanians have this ancestral instrument called CIMPOI (chimpoy), also Serbians and Bulgarians do have it calling it GAIDA. Generally speaking South Slavs have a lot of old, ancient Roman-Thracian (Vlach) culture adopted later by new comers Slavs. Even though Southern Slavs are Slavs in the name, their culture has a huge substratum of much older culture of this Illyric-Thracian-Dacian-Roman origins. This ancient pre-Slavic (Slavs arrive in Balkans only in 6-7th centuries) culture also has a striking similarity with Western Celtic culture which is a little weird and shocking.
@gordonstewart8258
@gordonstewart8258 Жыл бұрын
It is possible to push the pitch of some bagpipes up an octave by overblowing (actually a little more coplicated than that, I'm told). The Irish ulean bagpipe is an example.
@irishpiperchris
@irishpiperchris 3 жыл бұрын
Well done this is a splendid video and well researched.🙂
@cleverhandle6757
@cleverhandle6757 3 жыл бұрын
there is an alternative to 'surviving unmentioned in Europe for 1000 years' and 'being reinvented in 1200ish', and that is the instrument survived in North Africa or other Muslim territory from Roman times until being brought back to Europe after the Crusades. Circumstantial evidence for this is the multi-national aspect of the Cantigas - many of those musicians in the pictures are Moors, and secondly many instruments we know and love, including double reeds, the lute, the rebec and various percussion instruments were also brought into Europe at this time from the Muslim world.
@harrietharlow9929
@harrietharlow9929 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Thanks so much for posting this.
@nopt8191
@nopt8191 2 жыл бұрын
Bagpipes in Iberia are a an established thing both Portugal and Spain use it but the celtic karat of Iberia being Galicia and northern Portugal the bagpipe is commonly used and we have our own version of Bagpipe. So I don't know what do you mean by could this be bagpipes... Bagpipes gave been present in Iberia for ages
@klanghold1
@klanghold1 5 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Ohne Thing is wrong: some Double-Reed bagpipes can be overblown to a Second octav (Gaita Gallega, cornemuse, Schäferpfeife, Ullian Pipes...).
@viveliran7509
@viveliran7509 3 жыл бұрын
Iran Georgia Armenia and Laz Peolpe of Anatolia also have bagpipes
@Kingtrollface259
@Kingtrollface259 Жыл бұрын
Played scottish bagpipes for 12 years ,best years of my life ,in the first instance they are an instrument of war ,thats why so much of the music has a military theme ,theres also a history of bagpipes at sea
@patrickcannady2066
@patrickcannady2066 5 ай бұрын
That’s true of the SCOTTISH HIGHLAND PIPES, but not other kinds of bagpipes. I play the uilleann pipes, and have done so for 27 years and counting…most other variations of the bagpipe family of instruments, including Uilleann pipes, are folk instruments played for dancing and social occasions with no military applications whatsoever.
@RealitiesCookiejar
@RealitiesCookiejar 8 ай бұрын
Bagpipes can be seen in evidence in every mountain dwelling civilization; scotts, southern germans, northern italians, in the balkans and also in the caucus. They are also found in norway. Mountain landscapes are usually pretty barren and necessitate the cultivation of very specific and hardy livestock such as sheep or goats. Therefore its not hard to see how an instrument which requires the stomach of a sheep or goat and horn (or wood) attachments, would pop up in all of these mountainous regions. The likelihood is they all discovered the bagpipes independently of each other. All it would require is for someone to play a bone flute which which were once common in herding communities, realize blowing into it constantly is hard work to keep a steady tune, then figure out they can attach it to a water pouch made from a goat stomach filled with air to make the tune more steady and everything from that point on is really just the makings of a bagpipe.
@vm.999
@vm.999 10 ай бұрын
This is an awesome video 😎
@scottcampbell5536
@scottcampbell5536 9 ай бұрын
Seumas MacNeil - College of Piping tutor book 1 - all the history you need.
@RoyceLerwick
@RoyceLerwick 3 ай бұрын
Nothing you learn from the College of Piping is going to teach you anything useful in terms of bagpipe history. The relatively young "Highland" piping tradition, yeah. There's your couple of hundred useful years in a geographical region about the size of most Texas ranches. And then what?
@thephoenix2561
@thephoenix2561 5 жыл бұрын
thank you though for the info..looking forward to more videos.
@cesarvidelac
@cesarvidelac 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this documentary, I was looking for something like this for a long time. This is like martial art history in China, always a crane fighting a snake and all the bs. Thanks again!
@wewenang5167
@wewenang5167 11 ай бұрын
Women still play Persian bagpipes till today in southern Iran...its very famous traditional instrument there.
@patrickcannady2066
@patrickcannady2066 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, the Ney A Ban is used to play Bandari dance music. It’s pretty wild stuff. I haven’t heard much but was immediately impressed with their powerful sense of rhythm. Fun fun fun
@thierrypauwels
@thierrypauwels 4 ай бұрын
One thing that I have always wondered is why bagpipes always have drones, while most other music instruments do not have something similar. The most strange fact is the cabrette in the Auvergne, which is a bagpipe with a drone, but the drone is never used. Why do they add a drone to it, while they will anyway never use it ? This seems to indicate that there is rather a technical reason for adding one or more drones to a bagpipe than a musical reason. But I never found any explanation about this.
@greghenrikson952
@greghenrikson952 19 күн бұрын
When you play these instruments now, there is no debate. Specifically, the Turkish zurna or similar instrument became the European shawm after the crusades. The shawm is characterized by a stiff double reed and high pitch. I've played the shawm for years. It literally *IS* a bagpipe chanter with a few minor tweaks. I can take any chanter with a cane reed and play it like a shawm. Put a windcap on a chanter and it's a rauschpfeife. And now that I'm learning the pipes, I find I can pick up the techniques very easily. Because I have been playing the shawm for years. These are all the same group of instruments. Whatever Nero or the Anglo-Saxons had, it was likely a bag around some other kind of instrument. The bagpipes as we know them from European folk music are almost certainly a medieval innovation based on the zurna. The instruments *LITERALLY* fit together with very minor adjustments. The reeds are similar enough that my shawm runs fine on bagpipe reeds. So the European bagpipes are in the same family as the oboe and bassoon. They just don't want to admit it ;-)
@Lucius1958
@Lucius1958 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting research! One thing, though, that puzzles me: in Giraldus, we see "chorus" translated as "crowd". Surely, that latter word should refer to something like the Welsh "crwth", a bowed lyre? In fact, that word was later transferred to the fiddle, hence the surname "Crowder" (cf. the fiddler in Butler's _Hudibras_ , named "Crowdero").
@truthstartshere.9214
@truthstartshere.9214 4 жыл бұрын
The bagpipes are part of my heritage. The bagpipes I'd rather listen to then any other music out there. I get a pull an a tear in my eye everytime I hear there call.
@keiserwilhem5543
@keiserwilhem5543 3 жыл бұрын
Me too brother
@harrietharlow9929
@harrietharlow9929 3 жыл бұрын
Me, too!
@bookadmirer.3699
@bookadmirer.3699 2 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@powerofthought2294
@powerofthought2294 2 жыл бұрын
I can see them being used in furnaces also, have you found any evidence that connects this instrument to metallurgy?
@jimpomac
@jimpomac 20 күн бұрын
Wherever the original Bagpipe came from, it is pretty certain that it arrived in Britain and Northern Europe with the Roman army.
@GoncaloCruzMaker
@GoncaloCruzMaker 8 ай бұрын
Hello friends. May someone help clarify WHY adding a bag to a reed pipe prevent it from over blowing? Thank you
@PaulTheSkeptic
@PaulTheSkeptic 4 жыл бұрын
I think I read they originated in Egypt. I have no idea if there's any truth to that. But I do have a question for someone with this knowledge. My friend and I are both fans of music old and new. I fancy myself a sort of musician and every once in a while a new instrument will catch my interest and I'll be off trying to learn a new instrument. Lately I've been playing a double flute. It's just two tin whistles I stuck together. But I made an offhand comment about how it was the great granddaddy of the bagpipes. To which my friend replied "fail". I said it's a woodwind instrument with a drone. Something like this must have inspired something that would eventually become the bagpipes. She said "No bag, no bagpipes.". Now I don't know why the first bagpipe maker made them but they are at least related are they not? Perhaps distantly. Anyway, I thought at the very least you might find that amusing.
@banjohero1182
@banjohero1182 Жыл бұрын
good video. Aristophanes is 5 syllables, though
@bryanktrenberth
@bryanktrenberth 2 жыл бұрын
Scottish creation story is that they come from the daughter of a Egyptian pharroh named Scota.
@alexandraelena6499
@alexandraelena6499 5 жыл бұрын
hello. please check Ovid ...in his writings in exile. he mentioned an instrument cimpo, romanians call it cimpoi. maybe.
@cameronjodoin309
@cameronjodoin309 5 жыл бұрын
The "reed pipe" is formally known as the chanter.
@lukealexander3639
@lukealexander3639 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen vauge information that the pibgorn was influenced by the Arabic Mijwiz. I'm a new mijwiz player and an amateur Luther but I'm thinking about trying to add a bag to a homemade mijwiz..idk yet because I know very little about bagpipes
@jansoriano3889
@jansoriano3889 4 жыл бұрын
They were used in Ancient Rome,they had one drone.
@robabnawaz
@robabnawaz Жыл бұрын
16:18, no on the tâq-e rostam these four musicians on the upper right side do play an instrument now called "Shô" in Japan and "Sheng" in China, the grandfather of the accordeon. (See Henry Farmer on this topic). en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheng_(instrument)
@thephoenix2561
@thephoenix2561 5 жыл бұрын
if only subtitle was available
@josecuervo1459
@josecuervo1459 5 жыл бұрын
Check out ASTURIAN bagpipes, pipes from northern Spain. Reach 2 octaves by overblowing. Not full 2 octaves though. As well a bladder pipe was indeed more expensive than a "hide" pipe but in any case both decay with time. Just for being a bladder not a hide, on my opinion does not exclude it for being a "bagpipe"..which refers basicaly to a "air reservoir" attached. Congratulations on your video, very interesting indeed.
@TheHangingWood
@TheHangingWood 5 жыл бұрын
I tend to see bladder pipes, if not bagpipes, as almost bagpipes, rather than a seprate instrument. What is your opinion then on the circular blown ancient greek reed pipes, which use the mouth as an air resovoir?
@josecuervo1459
@josecuervo1459 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheHangingWood hi there. In my opinion, using your own mouth as a reservoir does not make aulos a bagpipe, just pipes. The reservoir in my opinion has to be a part of the instrument, not just the "tecnique required to play the pipes as it happens with the aulos type of instrumentes. Happy Festive Season and regards.
@TheHangingWood
@TheHangingWood 5 жыл бұрын
good point
@josecuervo1459
@josecuervo1459 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheHangingWood I really liked your video, very well worked through and looks like you did your homework indeed. I would like to suggest if I may, that give a look to the names "bagpipes" have in different European languages so apart geographicaly from each other as Galician and Bulgarian for example. That I think is something to reflect when it comes to the far and wide bagpipes are played in mainland Europe...not maybe in regards of the origins of the instrument itself but its distribution and deep tradition these wonderful instruments have in our Old Continent. Regards.
@HarryFlashmanVC
@HarryFlashmanVC 2 жыл бұрын
It's an impossible task to trace the origin if a folk instrument like the bagpipes. You might as well try and work out who developed the first woolen hat! The important thing about bagpipes is their cultural application around the world. I know if 4 types of pipes in the British Isles and I wouldn't be surprised to learn there are more: the Highland pipes, the Northumbrian pipes, Borders pipes and Irish small pipes. The association with Scotland is primarily down to the Victorian spread of Highland pipes around the world through the British Empire. It's important to remember that Scotland provided by far, the greatest proportion of administrators and merchants across the Empire. This was thanks to the, once great, Scottish Education system that educated everyone up to the age of 14, way ahead of education in the rest of the British isles. Prospects at home for these educated young Scots were slim so they sought their future in the Empire and in particular in the Raj and far east and of course North America. The spread of Scots took Scottish culture. Yes, the bagpipes are an ancient invention used in manyany cultures but in the modern world the Highland Great Pipes dominate the globe because of the legacy of Empire and the pre Eminence of Scots within it.
@BrianBorumaMacCennetig367
@BrianBorumaMacCennetig367 5 ай бұрын
The Irish also had the mouth blown bagpipes known as the great Irish warpipes they're mentioned in Ireland before any mention in scotland of bagpipes. They died out due to british colonialism. And Gerald of wales didn't just have a bias agasint Ireland his works were created as propaganda to justify Englands invasion of ireland to portray the Irish as savages in need of civilizing. Bagpipes were more associated with Ireland than Scotland in the late medieval period, Henry VIII had a large contingency of Irish bagpipers who played bagpipes in the fog of war, the first mentions of the bagpipes used in War are in ireland. There's plenty of images of the Irish with bagpipes as soldiers in the english army or as mercenaries. I'm wondering did the person who made this video not think of checking Irish sources written in the Irish language, there's numerous mentions of pipes.
@georgewillems32
@georgewillems32 4 жыл бұрын
I build my late 15th Century set of pipes myself. I also build a set for my wife too. Both in keye A and D or E.
@LandersWorkshop
@LandersWorkshop 10 ай бұрын
Can you show and give us a display?
@decem_sagittae
@decem_sagittae Жыл бұрын
Scottish people steal all the credit when Romanians have been playing bagpipes since before Scottish people even existed 😂😂😂
@patrickcannady2066
@patrickcannady2066 5 ай бұрын
Same goes for Turks, Persians, Armenians, Georgians, and other Eastern Mediterranean, Black Sea, and Caspian peoples
@KateGladstone
@KateGladstone 9 ай бұрын
The great delight of this fascinating presentation was marred (rather seriously) only by two things: /1/ the tile screen’s misspelling of “origin” (an error which would have been easy to avoid) and /2/ the presenter’s even more jarring (and frankly ludicrous) repeated failures to read unfamiliar long names am words. (Most of the errors, except for the first one - on “Aristophanes” - were of the kind which strongly suggests that te person who is trying and failing to read hasn’t quite finished learning how to decide a sequence ce of letters into a plausibly corresponding sequence of sounds.)
@Juesterduester
@Juesterduester 3 жыл бұрын
The connection at 20:00 between the German bagpipe "Hümmelchen" and the sound of a bumble bee (German: "Hummel") is most likely untrue. While the words seem similar from a modern day German perspective, the word "Hümmelchen" most like comes from an old German word "humeln", which means to make short or to make small. The Hümmelchen is thus a "small" or "shortened" bagpipe or just "small pipe" as opposed to the full sized "Schäferpfeife" or the much oversized "Großer Bock". No connection to bees though, unfortunately.
@knvprime9346
@knvprime9346 5 жыл бұрын
You should see this, in Serbian there is a saying/curse/funny "Jebem li ti gajde" and it's going so well with everything. English translate is "Fuck your bagpipe" not so famous or familiar and sound not right when spoken out loud. You were reading a bulgarian book, they try to have everything for themselves so no surprise if they are trying to claim Gajde- Bagpipe as well. They tried it for another instrument - Gusle but horribly failed.
@mervace
@mervace 3 жыл бұрын
Great info, interesting thou the Irish pipes achieve different octaves by over blowing, or pressure variation and that is using a bag.
@TheHangingWood
@TheHangingWood 3 жыл бұрын
True but the Uilleann pipes are a 20th century invention, musical technical knowledge was much more advance by then..
@Lucius1958
@Lucius1958 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheHangingWood The primary reason for overblowing at the octave is the bore of the reed pipe. A conical bore will overblow at the octave; a cylindrical bore will overblow at the twelfth. This is why the clarinet, for example, needs extra keys to fill in the gap between registers. I have been able to overblow an Early Music Shop bagpipe without too much difficulty, getting one or two notes above the octave (and mind you, I am also a very indifferent player); traditional French pipers often do the same.
@LandersWorkshop
@LandersWorkshop 10 ай бұрын
What about the Northumberian Pipes? They are old too right?@@TheHangingWood
@Noah.J.W17
@Noah.J.W17 3 жыл бұрын
What about the 1 out of 19 tell me about that
@sunvulcansunvulcan5337
@sunvulcansunvulcan5337 Жыл бұрын
Pokémon Ranger Pipe Band AKA Bagad de Pokémon Ranger and Banda de Gaitas de Pokémon Ranger!
@Gkogkas
@Gkogkas 4 жыл бұрын
Greek bigpipes are from ancient Greek Thracians who Orpheus maid for God Dionysus.
@ptmarinho
@ptmarinho 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video I liked and learned Anyway In this context you should say “Iberian Peninsula” or “Hispania” instead of Spain. Spain is a modern country and “Hispania” was the Roman name for the Iberian peninsula nowadays Portugal and Spain. In the 13th century Spain didn't exist. Alfonso X was king of Castile-Leon and the “Cantigas de Santa Maria” were written in galician-portuguese language. In other hand Portugal already existed as an independent realm with nearly the same boundaries as today.
@pemacal57
@pemacal57 2 жыл бұрын
When you say “modern “ ,I hope, you want to mean 500 years old of a pre-existent Nation. Iberia and Hispania were, as you say, the names, but Spain is not a modern concept. Excuse my boldness.
@GoncaloCruzMaker
@GoncaloCruzMaker 8 ай бұрын
@@pemacal57can you clarify and share the dates of foundation of Portugal and Spain? Thank you
@pemacal57
@pemacal57 8 ай бұрын
@@GoncaloCruzMaker Kingdoms of Spain and Portugal have the same origin, the Kingdom of Castilla. But we can speak of Spain since Visigoth’s unification of Roman Hispania( including Lusitania)) at the year of 589. And the modern concept of kingdom of Spain comes from the end of Reconquista by Reyes Catolicos in 1492. Kingdom of Portugal was earlier, around XIVth Century.
@GoncaloCruzMaker
@GoncaloCruzMaker 8 ай бұрын
"Portugal traces its national origin to 24 June 1128, the date of the Battle of São Mamede. Afonso proclaimed himself Prince of Portugal after this battle and in 1139, he assumed the title King of Portugal. In 1143, the Kingdom of León recognised him as King of Portugal by the Treaty of Zamora." So 1143 is 12th century!!!! And the issue was with LEON, not Castille as such. Afonso Henriques was the Prince of Galicia, Son of "Henry" that came from BURGUNDY FRANCE. "Henry (Portuguese: Henrique, French: Henri; c. 1066 - 22 May 1112), later Count of Portugal, was the first member of the Capetian House of Burgundy to rule the Galician territory and the father of the country's first Portuguese king, Afonso Henriques. Born in about 1066 in Dijon, Duchy of Burgundy, Count Henry was the youngest son of Henry, the second son of Robert I, Duke of Burgundy. After the defeat of the Christian troops in the Battle of Sagrajas in October 1086, in the early months of the following year, King Alfonso VI appealed for aid from Christians at the other side of the Pyrenees. Many French nobles and soldiers heeded the call, including Raymond of Burgundy, Henry's brother, Duke Odo, and Raymond of St. Gilles.[10] Not all of them arrived at the same time in the Iberian Peninsula and it is most likely that Raymond of Burgundy came in 1091.[11][b] Although some authors claim that Count Henry came with the expedition which arrived in 1087, even though "documentary evidence here is much more slight",[13] his presence is confirmed only as of 1096 when he appears confirming the forais of Guimarães and Constantim de Panoias. Three of these French nobles married daughters of King Alfonso VI: Raymond of Burgundy married infanta Urraca, later Queen Urraca of León; Raymond of St. Gilles married Elvira; and Henry of Burgundy married Teresa of León, an illegitimate daughter of the king and his mistress Jimena Muñoz." Anyways... ALL the medieval iberia history is fascinating to ALL the peoples of the Peninsula. We should queston why we have such a strong "Castillian" prespective. Castille as a culture and Kingdom strikes as one of the least interesting stories in the Peninsula. Just think how Galician is chosen as the nobles language - Afonso X, etc etc
@mox3909
@mox3909 4 жыл бұрын
Why wouldn't you be able to overblow using a bag? Can't you just apply more pressure with your arm?
@justinnaramor6050
@justinnaramor6050 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the statement that bagpipes can't be overblown was really, absolutely fucking wrong. Really, really wrong!
@dontgivamonkeyz
@dontgivamonkeyz 3 жыл бұрын
The bagpipes were common in England for hundreds of years but fell out of fashion in the 18th Century, I know it's controversial but some correctly believe they were introduced to other certain countries by English soldiers and settlers. I wonder if it was down to both the 2nd Agricultural Revolution and Industrial Revolution originating in England that led to the end of the tradition like many others throughout England at that time.
@TheHangingWood
@TheHangingWood 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if its contraversial among scholars, just blind nationalists. The bagpipes appear in medieval Europe in England in the 13th century 2nd only to Spain. Spain has one 13th century piece of empirical evidence while England has 3, no other country has any. In the 14th century half the empirical evidence in Europe comes form England, so we can surmise bagpipes were huge in England. Scotland has no empirical evidence of the bagpipes till the 16th century, Ireland the 17th century and Wales the 14th, so it is the bagpipes were introduced to Scotland, Wales and Ireland by the English.... However I'm not a fan of this line of reasoning. Absense of evidence is not evidence of absence. The oldest Welsh evidence for bagpipes in only 50 years after the oldest English evidence, so could be put down to chance. In another comment on this channel an Irish researcher shows compelling evidence for early Irish bagpies, which I believe. For Scotland there is nothing but the fake claim of the Melrose Abbey gargoyle, which researchers have debunked and dates from the 18th century, Wikipedia misleads us that it's from the 14th century. Howver on a differen line Edward the 1st's armies were in Scotland in the 13h century, so it's unlikely they did not have the bagpipe from then.
@HarryFlashmanVC
@HarryFlashmanVC 2 жыл бұрын
Bellows bag pipes are common in Northumberland and the Scottish borders in the form of Northumbrian and Borders pipes.
@patrickcannady2066
@patrickcannady2066 5 ай бұрын
@@HarryFlashmanVCthat’s a very loose usage of the word “common.” They’re pretty rare but they are indigenous to those regions.
@HarryFlashmanVC
@HarryFlashmanVC 5 ай бұрын
@patrickcannady2066 there are piping societies all across Northern Tynedale in Hexhamshire. I'm in one!
@robehickmann
@robehickmann 2 жыл бұрын
Parallel-bore reed instruments do not Overblow by an octave, they overblow by a 12th. And even if they did, the 3rd overtone is not a jump of an octave. Instruments follow the harmonic series. Tapered-bore reed pipes do Overblow an octave on the first overtone.
@pjmoseley243
@pjmoseley243 9 ай бұрын
who perfected the bagpipes?
@patrickcannady2066
@patrickcannady2066 5 ай бұрын
Not the British Royal Army, that’s for Goddamned sure.
@tiffnicely
@tiffnicely 5 жыл бұрын
3:21
@armageddonpressfreedom7977
@armageddonpressfreedom7977 4 жыл бұрын
Could not the the Pictish Aberlemno sculpture be a representation of a primitive duel bladder bagpipe?
@TheHangingWood
@TheHangingWood 4 жыл бұрын
That's interesting. I've tried to find the specific image but can't, you don't have a link do you?
@leonstevens1382
@leonstevens1382 6 ай бұрын
Armenian folk music features a piper and a totally separate person who plays the drone. That’s right the separate guy plays just one note.
@clevtwopointoh1208
@clevtwopointoh1208 5 жыл бұрын
to those who don't think bagpipes "mean" anything: My last name is Cochran. when I was 11 my father died. His name was Cochran. that same year so did my little brother. His name was Cochran as well. Scot family who I have not seen nor heard of since then played the pipes at both their funerals
@piofernandez3301
@piofernandez3301 2 жыл бұрын
About the extensive use of the term 'gaita' in Spain (and even SouthAmerica), and not just for bagpipes (even for three-holed flutes, rural oboes, accordions,...) : Classic Spanish etymology links It to the Germanic invasions in the peninsula (Suebi, Vándals, Visigoths...), at the decay of the Román empire, and relates 'gaita' to ancient Germanic words meaning 'goat', as the skin of the animal used for the bladder. How the Spanish Word & instrument 'gaita' would be then linked to the Slavic equivalents 'gaida', is something for I would apreciate a plausible explanation. I presume the meaning 'goat', and old Germanic 'gaits' word or similar, would also apply?
@cardenmanning2455
@cardenmanning2455 Жыл бұрын
In fact South Slavs are strongly influenced by older local Vlach population, Latin speaking, the population that they assimilated in droves. Many cultural aspects of South Slavic nations are coming from this older Latin speaking population. Ask any South Slav about Vlachs and they will tell you they know what it is. Of course, they will tell you that they are old Slavic population, especially Serbians, which a big BS, not true. Yet Vlachs gave them their folk music and dances. In this way South Slavic nations are Slavic more in the name (and language) than in reality. By the way, Vlachs go up to Czech and Poland, even there they have Vlachs, or Voloshy as they call them, Valahia in Czechia. But again they will tell you they are old Slavic tribes which again is a big lie. Those Vlachs lost their Latin language, but they still preserve old, archaic Romanian words in it.
@chasechristophermurraydola9314
@chasechristophermurraydola9314 2 жыл бұрын
Just saying but I heard from a friend of my dad’s who I am in a pipe and drum band with and he told me that the bagpipes originated in Greece where the players would use a goat or sheep skin for the bag and Bones For the chanters and just saying but I play the Tenor and base drum in a pipe and drum band that is named after the 3rd battalion of the royal regiment of Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 aka the BLACK WATCH and the bands name is the ATLANTIC WATCH located in Red Bank New Jersey.
@deusintus8075
@deusintus8075 3 жыл бұрын
Many comments here reference bagpipes achieving higher octaves...I think this video needs to do more research regarding that as well as it's possible egyptian origin.
@TheHangingWood
@TheHangingWood 3 жыл бұрын
If you'de like to provide as list references, I am completely open minded to researching and learning from these ancient sources.,
@sanctifyingtruth
@sanctifyingtruth 4 жыл бұрын
I notice that you make the assumption that once you place a bag on a reed pipe that it restricts you to only one octave however, uilleann pipes have a bag and can play two octaves. Other than that I thank you did a great job..
@TheHangingWood
@TheHangingWood 3 жыл бұрын
The Irish bagpipes are a product of modern engineering and music science. The video's about bagpipes made hundreds or thousands of years before that kind of knowledge existed.
@sanctifyingtruth
@sanctifyingtruth 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheHangingWood the only thing you need to do on the uilleann pipes to get the second octave is squeeze the bag a little harder. It is true that while the GHBs and Scottish smallpipes are not able to go beyond the one octave, I play both. Perhaps the difference is in the Reed as uilleann reeds are bigger than ssp and ghb's. Perhaps you know.
@TheHangingWood
@TheHangingWood 3 жыл бұрын
@@sanctifyingtruth What allows this is more design of the chanter than anything to do with the reed. chanter tecnology advanced greately in the 18th century along with other instruments. Everything about the highland pipes is unusual. Great pipes are a medieval thing, small pipes took over from them in the renaissance, medieval pipes had a low tone, renaissance smallpipes high tones so didn;t need to be loud. Pipes got more and more notes on the chanters with complex cross fingering or keys. What must the highlander have been thinking to make a modern set of great pipes, super high tone whgich make them deafening, barely any notes, then in a weird tuning that doesn't match the rest of Scottish folk music!!!!!! Then again it can be argued that the complete incompatability of Highland pipes is why they survived while all other western piping traditions died.
@patrickcannady2066
@patrickcannady2066 5 ай бұрын
@@sanctifyingtruththat is an inaccurate, incomplete summation of 2nd octave technique for the uilleann chanter. You do blow a bit harder, yes, but you must close the chanter entirely with bell resting on your leg before increasing the pressure and venting the necessary tonehole or toneholes. Upper second octave note require venting a lower second octave note first. E.g., to play an octave a from a closed chanter, you need to first vent an octave e, f#, or g.
@Zantigableiaust
@Zantigableiaust Жыл бұрын
a bagpipe is invented in Mesopotamia..
@adamwiggins9865
@adamwiggins9865 2 жыл бұрын
Wow.. also… the Riddle “Bird” you say it’s odd that nobble men are passing it around… not just a minstrel playing it…and that it makes beautiful music..(you say isn’t common) well.. 😁 with everything there are professionals and amateurs… I suspect you have heard mostly amateurs. I do not mingle amongst amateurs. Was taught by Canadian piping Legends.. there are few accomplished pipers that haven’t a very good career and education. In fact.. bagpipes keeps kids outta trouble and eventually somehow gravitated towards better opportunities. Engineers, lawyers, doctors, machinists, die makers… lots of cops and military officers.. so I find it very believable the nobles passed the pipes around and made beautiful music.
@owen261
@owen261 5 жыл бұрын
This guy needs to look into the new evidence about how bagpipes were invented by the people of Atlantis and then given to the Scottish by Santa Claus. LOL jokes aside this video was awesome. Love learning about pipes whenever I get the chance. Found it interesting when you noted the mouthblown reed pipes could overblow. I would love to see a video of that at some point if you found one I've never heard of that. With bagpipes, I can manipulate my highland pipe reed to overblow an octave for 2 extra notes so high b and c so it kinda acts like a Spanish gaita, but when I manipulate the reed it greatly diminished the power and tuning of the lower notes. However, with my small pipes, I can get it to overblow to a fifth, not an octave which means it's overblown to a harmonic, kinda like the flute. When you overblow once you hit the octave, but overblow again and you hit the 5th.
@TheHangingWood
@TheHangingWood 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks... but you're way off the mark, the Highland bagpipes were brought by aliens back in the days when the Earth was flat. I've been looking into bagpipe overblowing, there do seem to be a few bagpipes around the world capable of overblowing a few notes. The ones I've found that can do it though are very modern pipes such as the Uilleann pipes and the Swedish pipes.
@owen261
@owen261 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheHangingWood I suspect almost all pipes can overblow when the reed is properly set up or modified and I am sure some midlevel piper found this out when his reed as a bit to thin and he made some high intune squeaks. You can try this on the highland pipes if you have them. Get an extra reed, scrap it VERY thin, plug all the drones, strick up the bag and when you play low increase pressure and it should jump up and you can maybe climb up the octave scale for a few notes. Then try with drones then you get the hang of it. The only problem is sometimes the pipes sit a different spot harmonic in the harmonic series, (think of it like only playing in the 2nd octave of the flute, then when you overblow you only go up a 5th instead of an octave) pipes can be the same but i think they shoot up a 12th. If they sit in the higher octave naturally due to reed design and bore dimensions they will over blow to a non-octave note. Also look into bagpipe underblowing. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/atuHgJl2qZe5f58.html watch this video explains how small pipes can jump up kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sL2FiKx1mZvUnGg.html these smallpipes also have an extended range, but its with speaker keys and extended bores not sure if any over blowing is happening.
@owen261
@owen261 5 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rsqfdMlqsKjeZ4k.html here is an example of Spanish pipes overblowing
@TheHangingWood
@TheHangingWood 5 жыл бұрын
@@owen261 Thanks, great links. This is definately an interesting and under explored area. It's got me wondering why historically pipe developers seeemed to go for creating cross fingering or adding keys as a way of adding extra notes as opposed to developing overblowing more.
@owen261
@owen261 5 жыл бұрын
The Lost Antiquarian well for north umbr small pipes they are filled with so many keys and is so chromatic I can play Bach, and uilleann pipes tend to gave a few keys but isn’t really chromatic, but those are new pipes. I really feel like there is so much development to be made. But over blowing with pipes is so hard due to the nature of the reeds, they are so complex and need to be replaced and replicating a perfect reed is just as hard as making the first one. Speaker keys provide a reliable way to get an octave and Are in other Reeded instruments.
@CGLouisiana
@CGLouisiana 2 жыл бұрын
These versus are from the authorized version of the Holy Bible better known as the King James, the Sackbut mentioned is the Bagpipe, not to be confused with the French trombone which is not what is mentioned in the Bible, so apparently ancient Israelites played the Bagpipes... Daniel 3:5 That at what time ye hear the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, dulcimer, and all kinds of musick, ye fall down and worship the golden image that Nebuchadnezzar the king hath set up: Daniel 3:10 Thou, O king, hast made a decree, that every man that shall hear the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, and dulcimer, and all kinds of musick, shall fall down and worship the golden image: Daniel 3:7 Therefore at that time, when all the people heard the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, and all kinds of musick, all the people, the nations, and the languages, fell down and worshipped the golden image that Nebuchadnezzar the king had set up. Daniel 3:15 Now if ye be ready that at what time ye hear the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, and dulcimer, and all kinds of musick, ye fall down and worship the image which I have made; well: but if ye worship not, ye shall be cast the same hour into the midst of a burning fiery furnace; and who is that God that shall deliver you out of my hands?
@RichardDCook
@RichardDCook 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this, I hope the people who regurgitate the same groundless rubbish over and over will view this. I've been saying these same things for 30 years. You do make some misstatements 1) at 10:16 you say that one can't half-hole notes on a reed pipe. Any woodwind with fingerholes can be half-holed, in fact halfholing is a standard technique on mouthblown reed pipes like the Duduk, and on bagpipes like the Gaita Asturiana. 2) at 11:06 you say that putting a reed pipe in a bag robs it of the ability to overblow into a higher octave, in fact this is standard technique on numerous bagpipe species.
@TheHangingWood
@TheHangingWood 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the repsonce. I should definately have been clearer about reed pipes. I was referring to three completely seperate things as one. The 1st half holing reed pipes to raise the sound by an octave, and the 2nd half holing to create more notes between holes. 3rd Specific facts about the Arghul. This became a bit of a muddle. Clearly some reed pipes can do the 2nd, I don't know about the 1st though, on a recorder you raise it an octave by half holing the thumb hole, maybe there are reeds pipes that can do this, I don't know. As for overblowing, it's true some bagpipes can be overblown. With many pipes that can be overblown it is very limited, often only 2 or 3 notes. Also Pipes that can be overblown also tend to be very modern creations, In the context of what i meant by overblowing in the video, overblowing every note on the pipes one or two octaves and getting a viable musical sound seems beyond most older bagpipes, maybe there are some but they would be the exeption, not the rule. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rsqfdMlqsKjeZ4k.html
@donaldedgar1004
@donaldedgar1004 29 күн бұрын
Ya like wrestling with an octopus if your name t that familiar with them
@adamwiggins9865
@adamwiggins9865 5 жыл бұрын
So this is funny... I had heard that Nero didn’t play the fiddle but played the pipes while Rome burned....so he does infact have evidence that he played.
@TheHangingWood
@TheHangingWood 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe they set Rome on fire to shut him up.
@Lucius1958
@Lucius1958 3 жыл бұрын
Chroniclers such as Suetonius say that Nero actually hosted some refugees from the fire at the palace, where he recited an epic he had written on the burning of Troy, accompanying himself on the lyre or kithara.
@adamwiggins9865
@adamwiggins9865 2 жыл бұрын
Here I am 2 years later re watching this🤣 I’ll also point out.. the mention of Nero playing a pipe by mouth and bag under arm sounds like a direct reference to his practice chanter..which is the quiet smaller one..we tend to walk around annoying people with them.. at least I do
@TopperPenquin
@TopperPenquin 2 жыл бұрын
Bagpipes are a bit like Noah's Flood... Everybody's got one.
@TopperPenquin
@TopperPenquin 2 жыл бұрын
Bagpipes were invented because most everyone was making water bladders out of animals skins. One can squeeze the bladder to hasten the water flow. It then doesn't take a lot of Genius of thought to notice that air is also expelled. So what if I place my water bladder on the blow end of my flute? 🤔... BAGPIPES!!!
@darrellm9915
@darrellm9915 Жыл бұрын
Are you referring to your ball bag and wiener pipe?
@patrickcannady2066
@patrickcannady2066 5 ай бұрын
That’s the POLITE way of saying it
@daniels4338
@daniels4338 2 жыл бұрын
Nero was red haired 😉
@siphotheguy1870
@siphotheguy1870 Жыл бұрын
My wife she like play the ball bags
@austntexan
@austntexan 2 жыл бұрын
It's very important for the peoples of Europe and the British Isles to understand that we owe everything, our entire culture and history, to others. Ideally, we shouldn't be allowed to think of ourselves as having any culture. Additionally, we are encouraged to open our doors to the rest of the world and should welcome the introduction of their culture, over any lesser derivative culture we currently subscribe to.
@foundationofBritain
@foundationofBritain 8 ай бұрын
Such oikophobic, xenophilius and historical fiction... why on God's green earth would you even try to convince any peoples they "shouldn't be allowed to think of ourselves as having any culture" and supposedly "open our doors to the rest of the world and should welcome the introduction of their culture, over any lesser derivative culture we currently subscribe to" You literally trying the convince the peoples of Europe and the British Isles to replace themselves!. Just stop, mate... leave people be.
@patrickcannady2066
@patrickcannady2066 5 ай бұрын
Good luck with that. But I do agree
@longbow4856
@longbow4856 Жыл бұрын
Dark Isle Piper: Siubhail (Original)🙏🏻☦️☘️☕️
@kylewaddington1983
@kylewaddington1983 5 ай бұрын
To loud the bagpipes need ear muffs
@chrismills2012
@chrismills2012 3 жыл бұрын
to answer the question, is a bagpipe without drones still a bagpipe? the short and simple answer is of corse, yes. the Cornish bagpipe is a prime example of a droneless bagpipe. it is just a leather bag with a mouthpiece and 2 chanters. a drone effect can be created using closed fingering like what is used for the northumbrian smallpipes. one of the things that I find laughable in particular is that English people slag off the bagpipes and go on about what an awful instrument they are, but yet we English people had our own pipes, the Northumbrian pipes to mension 1, I am a player of that instrument, the Cornish pipes, the yourkshire bagpipes, the Lancashire bagpipes, witch are currently being revived, the linconshire bagpipes witch are currently extinked, and the worcestershire bagpipes, witch are also currently extinked. and also the Leicestershire Small-pipes. another thing I find sad also with many pipe bands is that they are only interested in the highland pipes. obviously that’s the instrument they play, but you would think they would at least be interested to learn about others. their were many types of shawms from that time, the Crumhorn, the Glastonbury pipe, from the middle ages, the Roman Tibia, and the greek awlous, witch their were 2 different types. the reed pipe and the flute pipe. I have a massive interest in these ancient instruments. how can you really be a bagpipe enthusiast if you are only interested in the 1 kind? when I was at school, for my music homework, I wrote an article about the Northumbrian pipes, the article was called, The Northumbrian Small-pipes, more than just a toy.
@TheHangingWood
@TheHangingWood 3 жыл бұрын
England was the main bagpiping country in the world during the 13th/14th centuries almost half the evidence, images of pipes and writings of that era come from England. Piping stayed as popular in England as many other countries till around the late 18th century when it declined as it did in most countries, Scotland and the balkans being the places it did not decline. The English piping tradition is still very strong compared to most countries where is died out completely. The are 2 and half sets of pipes that have been in constant historical use to this day (equal to Scotland). The Northumbrians make the claim their smallpipes are the longest unbroken piping tradition in the world dating back to the 17th century. The border pipes are also a long tradition but people argue when it began. Finally there's the Pastoral pipes another 17th century set of pipes that died in England but were taken over to Ireland by English settlers and they're still played there today. There are plenty of historical sets that died out and are being revived such as the Cornish, Leicester and Worcester Pipes but there is the problem of how authentic these pipes are. Though this could be said for more than half the current piping traditions in the world, all using modern pipes reconstructed from images.
@dontgivamonkeyz
@dontgivamonkeyz 3 жыл бұрын
The act of Union of 1707 killed off a lot of English Culture I'm wondering if ironically it did with the pipes?
@foundationofBritain
@foundationofBritain 8 ай бұрын
@@dontgivamonkeyz Most English bagpipes went extinct in the 19th century.
@foundationofBritain
@foundationofBritain 8 ай бұрын
I think us English slag off the bagpipes because, lets be frank, when the average Englishman today comes across the word 'bagpipes', unless one is aware of English bagpipes with there softer more quiet sound, we tend to think of the 'Highland pipes' with its harsh more louder noise, which just often sounds an annoying awful instrument to an Englishman's ears.
@maxsavage3998
@maxsavage3998 Жыл бұрын
Ancienr Italy is the origin of the bagpipes
@DavidNotSolomon
@DavidNotSolomon 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. Actually your piping sounded pretty good to me.
@TheHangingWood
@TheHangingWood 5 жыл бұрын
thanks
@klaus6091
@klaus6091 3 жыл бұрын
it was created by the vlachs
@TheHangingWood
@TheHangingWood 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe, if you could post a link to the evidence for this claim, I'd be interested in examining it.
@Incasport
@Incasport 2 жыл бұрын
Today is IRAK Origin of the bagpipes
@RoyceLerwick
@RoyceLerwick 3 ай бұрын
You know it's not worth the time to watch when the title uses a term like "THE BAGPIPE" with a picture of some doof in Highland gear, as if THAT's "THE BAGPIPE." Oh yeah, and then all the "highlights" are double reeds.
@thunorwodenson
@thunorwodenson 3 жыл бұрын
Your piping is nice. However you might consider getting yourself a good teacher on the highland pipes. They are the most skilled of any pipers in the world. What stands out is the lack of complex ornamentation when it comes to international pipers. Piping is truly a highland art.
@TheHangingWood
@TheHangingWood 3 жыл бұрын
I originally trained as a highland piper in my youth, but converted to medieval pipes, so am knowledgiable about complex ornamentation. I completely disagree highland pipers are the most skilled, Highland pipes without ornamentation are among the most basic and simple pipes to play (just 9 holes and no cross fingering) the system of complex ornamentation introduced was added by the military as system to grade pipers and create a rigid standardised learning/examination system, by and making them artificially difficult to play. There are plenty of pipes in the world just as difficult, if not more difficult to play as the Highland pipes, only naturally difficult, not artificially. Try learning a set of French bagpipes with 2 octaves of cross fingering, or the Northumbrian or Irish pipes with their key systems. On my medieval pipes I put a small amount of simple ornamnetation on for dramatic effect on a few notes, rather than lots of complex stuff on most notes Highland or grade, and also I think little sounds better than more.
@patrickcannady2066
@patrickcannady2066 5 ай бұрын
Irish uilleann pipers have entered the chat…same for Galicians, Bulgarians, etc
@bargh70
@bargh70 3 жыл бұрын
Българи има ли тука? 🇧🇬
@denytenev2979
@denytenev2979 2 жыл бұрын
Има🇧🇬
@dirkcampbell5847
@dirkcampbell5847 3 жыл бұрын
You asked for comments so here goes. Most of what you say is correct, e.g. casting doubt on the Sumerian, Hittite, Alexandrian etc. iconography, also the Aristophanes translation. The reference to Nero as a bagpiper is the first credible one as you say. You make a number of mistakes, but I won't list them all! (Contact me if you want - dirkcampbell.co.uk) I'll draw attention to three. First that the fipple flute was invented by neanderthals. There is no good evidence that the neanderthals had flutes at all, certainly not the fipple flute which is quite an advanced piece of technology. Second, your claim that the arghul can overblow to two or three octaves. No traditional single-reed pipe overblows at all - neither the arghul nor its relatives zummara, mijwiz, sipsi etc. Third, you state that there is doubt about whether bagpipes without drones can be considered bagpipes. Several bagpipes of Greece are droneless, e.g. tulum, tsambouna and askomandoura (portrayed in your video), and all traditional bagpipes of the near East and north Africa, e.g. ney anban, habban and mezoued. These are all of the same type with parallel double-pipe chanters and they can be found as far east as Afghanistan.
@000rbasham
@000rbasham 5 ай бұрын
Genesis 4:19-21 New King James Version 19 Then Lamech took for himself two wives: the name of one was Adah, and the name of the second was Zillah. 20 And Adah bore Jabal. He was the father of those who dwell in tents and have livestock. 21 His brother’s name was Jubal. He was the father of all those who play the harp and [a]flute. Footnotes a Genesis 4:21 pipes Adah was of the line of Seth son of Adam and Eve. Yet Lamech was of the sons of Cain. Adah later married Japeth's son of Noah and their children were of the tribes of Genesis. 10:.Yet the sons of Shem made the bagpipes popular in put days Genesis 10:1-5 New King James Version Nations Descended from Noah-2350 ish BC 10 Now this is the genealogy of the sons of Noah: Shem, Ham, and Japheth. And sons were born to them after the flood.2 The sons of Japheth were Gomer, Magog, Madai, Javan, Tubal, Meshech, and Tiras. 3 The sons of Gomer were Ashkenaz, [a]Riphath, and Togarmah. 4 The sons of Javan were Elishah, Tarshish, Kittim, and [b]Dodanim. 5 From these the coastland peoples of the Gentiles were separated into their lands, everyone according to his language, according to their families, into their nations. Footnotes a Genesis 10:3 Diphath, 1 Chr. 1:6 b Genesis 10:4 Sam. Rodanim and 1 Chr. 1:7 In the days of the Exodus I's say that the children of Israel 1447 ish BC were crossing the Red sea and playing the Bagpipes and drums under Moses. lol
@DrakeN-ow1im
@DrakeN-ow1im 2 ай бұрын
Quoting anything from any version of the Abrahamic scriptures is fraught - the whole of the canon is highly questionable in its authenticity.
@inoshikachokonoyarobakayar2493
@inoshikachokonoyarobakayar2493 4 жыл бұрын
He says Aristophanes the same way Bill & Ted says Socrates. So-Crates Aristo-Fains 😂😂
@theironnikolov6272
@theironnikolov6272 3 жыл бұрын
Id Just say Macedonians are not greeks! Other than that very good video.
@TheHangingWood
@TheHangingWood 3 жыл бұрын
Perhaps saying Macedonians became Greeks would be the best way of putting.
@lightbringer2794
@lightbringer2794 11 ай бұрын
@@TheHangingWood Both comments are wrong.
@karenedonald
@karenedonald 5 жыл бұрын
Origin, not origen. Your opening slide
@clevtwopointoh1208
@clevtwopointoh1208 5 жыл бұрын
can you play the pipes?
@bagpipe1979
@bagpipe1979 Жыл бұрын
No
@bagpipe1979
@bagpipe1979 Жыл бұрын
You played nothing
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