Right WTF xD

He's really the son of Gurion.

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Well he is a ranger....

Robin Hood couldn't have done better!👍😉

5 months after you typed this comment, a man choked on his food laughing from reading it.

@@SaberRiryi and coincidentally 5 months later another man choked on his drink while reading your subsequent reply.

they both died in the incident.

The OP and the reply posters got the capital punishment for manslaughter in a shockingly low media trial. The Texas court of appeals did not received any petition from any of them. Each of them got the injection in a Sunday each In a different week. They said they looked peaceful and didn't Carry any care in this world.

@@davebob4973 💀💀

just another tuesday

"Oh no. The dragon is coming." Get's me every time.

Skyrim when a dragon appears game music: *screaming*

A dragon is attacking in LEGO city! HEY!

@@raptorxrise5386 Damn beat me to it

That's actually gimli.

phillip walling I know, but I put it as Legolas, because him and Bard use a bow and arrow as their primary weapon.

Goat

Like hell it does. That bard just made dragons extinct. There's killing and then there's finishing off a species.

@@Bluesit32 nope there are still plenty in the land of middle earth

What stuck with me, was if autumn is so cold, why aren't they wearing any PANTS?

@@SovereignStatesman the English are used to the cold. Cover the chest and arms and you’re good

@@SovereignStatesman because they’re MEN! And MEN don’t WEAR pants!

@@SovereignStatesman Trousers/pants were seen as silly and even feminine to ancient peoples like the Romans, but of course most ended up wearing them with their tunics after Germanic barbarians integrated with them.

Same

I love that they used that straight from the book. And the music in the background as Bard is saying it gives me chills.

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Love that fkkn line!

Loved how they incorporated it here. Need to watch the whole movie now.

The delivery and language is better than the entire content of all 3 of the Peter Jackson Hobbit movies. Just goes to show what you can do if you stick to the text of an actual good author instead of injecting hackneyed scripting. Even though the RB art styling isn't exactly great it still manages to transcend other renditions when it sticks to Tolkien.

Don Messick can make anyone sound calm.

@@SovereignStatesman That's John Stephenson.

@@MaskedMan66 All those Hannah-Barberra voice-actors sound the same to me.

@@SovereignStatesman It's Hanna, and Messick and Stephenson have very different voices; in the first place, Messick is a tenor and Stephenson is a baritone.

Heroic willpower

yeah i thought the same

WALK IT OFF

But a flesh wound

magnificent

Tis but a flesh wound

Agreed. The Peter Jackson-Movies tried too hard to expand the story so they could make it into three movies. Shoehorning the whole part with Sauron in even though he is never mentioned in The Hobbit was enough of a nuisance, but I especially disliked what they did with Bard and his black arrow

@@kenobiwanobi889 I didnt mind the sauron part as much as that was totally going on in the background, but I get your point.

Smaugs death in the new films was very anticlimactic, especially since they made you wait another film for it

@@oi6915 Yeah, right? They leave off at a cliffhanger and people who may not have read the books are like "Oh boi looking forward to the epic finale" and then the dragon gets killed off in the first ten minutes.

@@kenobiwanobi889 Agreed. In the book, Bard was considered an extremely grim man, and he was often teased by his fellow guards and such, but nobody hated him or anything. Well...the master of Laketown sorta did after he killed the dragon and became extremely popular, but even then, the Master blamed the Dwarves for the attack and tried sucking up to Bard.

It's a NORDIC-style dragon, not English-style like in the movie. They had fur and stuff.

@@SovereignStatesman ok but why does he look like a pretty kitty scratching the couch and hacking up a hairball

lol, dead@@kenrudd6362

That’s because Bilbo found a Missing Scale from Smaug’s Dragon Body

Yeah Smaug looks more like a winged Tevildo than a normal dragon.

Never underestimate the willpower of a hero

"Calm and efficient"? My man took down the chiefest and greatest of calamities in less than 2 minutes without breaking a sweat in an inferno...

its how adults/people used to be lol.

That's why he's the boss, I imagine I sure hope they gave him a raise after that

"Dumbledore Asked Calmly" Keep telling yourself that quote lol

Surely I say to thee, my ancient friend. Dragon fire like that of days long lost to all save Elven kind shall yet rain down upon all flesh that dare crawl upon middle earth.

Also the smallest. xD

@@Maximus1Decimus actually, there were many dragons of lesser size. Smaug is actually among the medium sized ones. Glaurung, the first dragon, was actually smaller

Dovakim, dovakim

@@cillianthestupendous6093 glaurung was not smaller lol. He was much bigger

I did too!! That would actually fix these kind of lame 80s films.

There are a bunch of sounds missing or added in the DVD release. I kinda miss the old sounds. Not that I like it that much less. At least it has the scene where Bilbo's ass is burning, whereas that part was missing in the VHS tape I had.

​@@Indurok Okay, that makes sense, because catching some of these clips I see on youtube made me confused since I could have sworn there were more sound effects. I think it must be all the heavy/loud sound effects that are missing, for some reason.

@@Indurok What a bizarre thing to do. Why remove SOME sounds? How did it happen?

@@Bluesit32 I think I remember a comment saying that they had lost audio files or something.

he's so cute 🐲😼🦊😈🔥🔥🔥 fluffy evil and creepy

The Chinese/Japanese Dragon Smaug

@@irinakravec727 the thicc cat lizard

Flying Rancid M00n Fish: Smaug was voiced by Richard Boon, who was famous as a villain in many films.

@MIA MCCORMICK here, not in the books or movies

In my opinion he looks like a Cat has paired with a Dragon.

pics or it didnt happen

He looks like if Snarf from the Thunder Cats had a one night stand with a fat Chinese dragon

@@ooeygooeygoodra3068 lol

Because those audio effects were not licensed. It was easier to get away with that kind of thing back in the day. They had to take them out in modern releases because they didn't want to get in legal trouble and couldn't afford to pay the fees to keep them in.

@@Keldroc its not just that un a lot of cases audio recordings were lost. See the film 'Legend'. There was no incentive for long term storage.etire audio, soundtracks, etc were lost.

He also did voice acting on Thundercats and Silverhawks. A great talent.

Not really hard to believe; the poor guy had throat cancer.

@@Hinatachan360 He can't have done; he died in 1981, and those shows were made in '85 and '86.

Have Flame--Will Travel

Maybe to avoid fire spreading in the valley.

To prevent the dragon from simply walking into the city without presenting his vulnerable belly. In the book Smaug intends to walk in at first and is greatly angered finding the bridge destroyed.

@@Mantil82 this is the content I came for

"So we All burn to death!" "Dude...."

You are correct, ratbat!!! In the book, he destroys and splinters all of laketown into tiny bits!!!!!

LOL!

I think it was the black arrow, it COULDN'T MISS what it was aiming at.

@@SovereignStatesman Okay, you have a point there.

Smaug the Porky

That and has very good leading instincts. Leading as in target leading.

That’s crazy.

@@neverastraightanswer9802 Why? These guys are very versatile.

that's because they are both done by Rankin Bass who also did all those old Christmas specials like frosty the snowman & rudolph the red nosed reindeer

Both were animated by Topcraft, a Japanese animation studio that broke off into Studio Ghibli and Pacific Animation Corporation (defunct)

Did this Smaug have hair on his back in the book? I never read the book.

+brian sedlock it's kind of like "pweepwee pweepweepwee". but i can't do the visceral sound for when the black arrow hits smaug.

+TalenelaT thanks for clarifying; I couldn't have described better myself.

The dvd famously has missing tracks of sound throughout the whole movie. Such a let down. I have the original vhs version, it's all together a different flick wirh the proper sound

So do I. I'll be sad when I'll won't get to watch it anymore because the drama isn't the same without the sound effects. What the hell were they thinking when they cut so much of them out? We need a petition for them to restore the film properly instead of letting them get away with this joke.

@@Bubbles99718 you should make it public

ryanspears1986 Someone should try that.

MDkid1 LOL!

ryanspears1986 LOL! I'd like to see them try it. As John Huston's Gandalf would have said, they'd be ashes before they took their seventh step! =)

those stone giants could do it, they as big as mountains

@@zorrothefox2000 Through the front gate? As a house guest?

What's wrong with Smaug in Desolation? He looks great, besides, there are plenty of dragons in mythology with 2 legs and their forearms acting as their wings.

IndianaJoel93 Those are wyverns. Dragons have four legs and two wings. I'm on top of all things imaginary flying lizards, man.

CadaverJunky8 True! and even the dragon drawn on the dwarves map has four legs.

Greg L If you look back at the opening scenes in Unexpected Journey, you can notice he actually had four legs. They randomly decided to chop them off in the second one cause Bendick Cumbatch didn't feel like "portraying" him with four legs.

CadaverJunky8 I thought Wyverns were a type of Dragon anyway? Isn't 'Dragon' just an umbrella term for fire breathing, treasure hoarding, super intelligent reptiles?

I prefer the newer version. The Black Arrow was more like a spear or ballista shot, something much closer to believable that it could kill something the size of a dragon if it hit the right spot. A normal arrow seems like it would be like a toothpick stab: it would hurt, but kinda goofy to die from. He still took normal bow and arrow shots before anyway. And aiming the thing was still all him regardless of the weapon. Edit: Also, you must not remember the scene very well: he never used the harpoon gun, he made a massive makeshift bow, aimed and shot it himself (though he did need his son to rest the arrow on). it's arguably more impressive with the crazy draw weight that would have.

@@ryuuronin9852 *eyeroll* "Believable." Dragons, wizards, elves, dwarves, and hobbits, and you're talking about "believable." The Jackson Hobbit movies were a train wreck, and even he acknowledged that, and apologized for them.

@@MaskedMan66 Even if he wasn't proud of them, I enjoyed them personally (though I can admit they have plenty of flaws, but plenty of strengths as well). Not every choice made was inherently a bad one. As for believability, yes I am talking about that in a Fantasy context. Would it be reasonable if a normal bee flew up and stung Smaug, causing his death? No. The Black Arrow is stated to be well made, but never explicitly magic in ability, so it should be judged by mortal standards. Plenty of professional authors have talked about how occasional elements can help ground a Fantasy, and improve how the audience relates to that world's sense of cause and effect. Fantasy doesn't necessarily need Realism, but it does need Believability, even if only within it's own context. The original is not wrong for it's choice, but I just prefer the ballista because it seems more reasonable. And lest we forget, Tolkien himself, retconned elements of the original Hobbit. When creating LOTR, he expanded and yes even changed bits to better fit with his larger lore that he had created. Even he wasn't fully satisfied with the original Hobbit.

@@ryuuronin9852 How you must hate "The Wonderful Wizard of Oz." Tolkien didn't change Bard's arrow. He was content with that. And he would have hated what Jackson did with his work. That's not speculation, by the way; he didn't like adaptations of literature in general, nor of his own work in particular. You might have heard how she shot down the Beatles' request to do a movie of TLotR.

@@MaskedMan66 Strange assumption to make. I never said anything about what I hate, I even said I don't hate the original Hobbit, it's a fine story. I just like this one minor element of the ballista idea relatively more. Heck, in some contexts, like Alice in Wonderland for example, no sense of reason is believable, because they establish it's a world of madness. And I don't claim what Tolkien would approve of the changes made for the movies, I know he would hate a lot of it. I completely agree that things can be changed too much (Rings of Power for example, which went off the deep end with liberties taken), but to pretend every change made in an adaptation is automatically worse is also a mistake. Are the LOTR movies entirely worthless because Aragorn wasn't fighting using the broken sword the whole time, or for omitting characters like Glorfindel and Tom Bombadil? The Jackson Hobbit movies were troubled, no question there, but looking at the commentaries and interviews, you see this was a rushed and exhausting job, but one still done with passion, with people that loved the source material and the characters. For that alone, I could never HATE those movies, just feel disappointed.

Well it was done for love AND money

@@skibot9974 I was about to say lol. This was still done for money.

who criticized this movie? where they at? i will fuck them up!

@@mirafloyd5756 Only to recoup the money that had been spent on it, as is always the case with such projects. But there was definitely love and knowledge of Tolkien's work behind it.

You can tell that the Rankin-Bass designers and animators knew their Tolkien onions; they put in things that are described in the books, even if not directly alluded to in the T.V. specials. Some examples from their version of "The Return of the King" would be the presence of a young man who could only be Faramir at Eowyn's side during the coronation scene, as well as the standards of the various armies battling at the Pellenor Fields.

The thrush says that

Well let's put it this way Luke Skywalker shot as well as Bard The Bowman. And much like Smaug the Dragon, the Death Star had a small but definite weak spot. The Hypermatter Reactor Module, the very core, the "heart" you could say, of that station. The weak spot that Galen Erso left in the Death Star. And just as the black arrow fired by Bard The Bowman struck the weak spot in the left breast of Smaug the Dragon, two little proton torpedoes fired from Luke Skywalker's X-Wing flew down the thermal exhaust port , and exploded in the reactor, causing it, and the station to be destroyed utterly! 😃

especially*

Everyone tries to make jokes about him being a cat, but he's not funny in the movie, especially not when he's threatening Bilbo.

is this a joke?

@@rehlingerdobbie6575 exactly. I dont know why people compare the old and the new. This animation is literraly trash. And the new smaug was much more clever and intriguing. This was short and trash.

So ur saying a flying cat is more terrifying then the new one bitch please

@@benjaminrowley no need to be toxic child XD. Abd yes it is, the other one looks super fake, like how could you be terrified of what looks like a spikey blob of rubber co.pared to a cat with 3 foot long fangs and wings?

Awesome Thrush.

Dragonslayer movie dragon is pretty darn good as a dragon!

Didn't Bard' grandgrandgrandverygrandfather tried to kill Smaug during his first appearance at the Mointain? So it's pretty reasonable to think that he tried to kill him in the chest, near as much as possible to the heart. It's. You know. Logic.

It’s kinda weird that a fucking dragon has his organs at the same place like humans

That’s what I was thinking 🤔 about it.

More like Anglo-Saxons or Vikings, which is was Middle Earth was based on. But then, they all dressed sort of the same

@@jeffreyknickman5559 Yeah. They all look like Robin Hood.

Sleeping beauty!

phillip walling Yep! And also because Sleeping Beauty was the movie that inspired the sword and sorcery genre!

e21big FUS RO DAH!!!

I thought he looked more like a cat.

Hose were more common than pants in the Middle Ages.

@MIA MCCORMICK You think? I thought it was quite epic and majestic to watch

@@Sianic12 I agree with Mia here, smaug made more dumb choices, and the movie had some leaps of logic that FANTASY can't excuse.

+Sailor Sedna What? Don't you know a movie called The Hobbit is supposed to be about a love triangle between the token good looking dwarf, an elf that never appeared in the Hobbit, and Peter's OC Elf. Also Gandalf fucks off to go start and never really complete a story arc about the Necromancer that goes nowhere and only serves to bring three other characters who had no role in the Hobbit to remind everyone they exist. No, old chap. It's called The Hobbit because there's a hobbit somewhere in that whole mess.

Good point. But sill love The Hobbit movie.

Also Smaug was made into a friggin WYVERN! 😑 Hollywood, please stop doing that!

I'd agree if these animated movies didn't fail to grasp the character of the books so much. Smaug goes from being a Tolkien dragon (a being of intelligence and soul equal or beyond to that of Sauron) to a beast which speaks, as an example.

The nostalgic circlejerk is strong here

Its shown in this video

I know what you mean, every video you go on there's an argument about something

Eleanorminblack Isn't that the truth?! =(

It's a pretty big problem. Having two legs like that means he's a wyvern. A massive wyvern, but just a wyvern. Smaug is supposed to be the last great dragon. His teeth are like swords, his claws spears!

I watched it about a year ago as an adult. This cartoon rocks!!

You have my respect!

I have read the book several times and I am a nerd about this I could even say I have an obsession. I have also seen the cartoon. They overdid Smaug a little in dat one.

The reason why is more wise to keep quiet and just reading the flamewars =P

Dude, I first saw this in the 5th grade on a slideshow back in 1977. Do you remember a slideshow projector?

hes harry

You're a dragon, Harry!