The Hobbit SE Multi-Fuel Stove Review (Salamander Stoves)

The Hobbit SE Multi-Fuel Stove Review (Salamander Stoves) | Paragon’s Favourite Stuff Ep. 19

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It’s been a year since we installed our new multi-fuel stove, The Hobbit, on our sailboat. We’ve used it exclusively to heat our boat over this past (very cold!) winter, and it’s time to tell you what we think!
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@SheilaConvery Жыл бұрын

You've really mastered making Paragon so cozy and comfortable to live on!

@kmleary Жыл бұрын

A wonderful stove, it's fine features effectively conveyed to us. Just might get one of these stoves during the next refit. Thank you Paragon

@tsneil Жыл бұрын

Great video, thanks; I’ve learnt so much. You’ve really convinced me that getting a Hobbit stove is the right way to go.

@karlaharrington1 Жыл бұрын

GO DRAKE!!! Comment for support. Big LIKE. Any video from the OG of sailing videos is VERY GOOD!!! Keep 'em coming. :))))

@beazleteats4031 Жыл бұрын

G'day from a sunny Sydney, Australia. Have been very concerned about you guys as we hadn't heard from you and Mo in a while. Good to see your friendly face again mate. Nive review too!!!!

@jb7052 8 ай бұрын

Great review. We have a Hobbit and I’ve only just started experimenting with burning smokeless coal on it. We love the Hobbit too

@beedonn9260 Жыл бұрын

Great job Drake, informative as usual.

@cameronpetrie7978 Жыл бұрын

Good to see you posting again! We’ve missed your videos!

@rontaylor4235 Жыл бұрын

Great info, thanks

@sakuradag4978 Жыл бұрын

Good to see you again guys.

@westmc45 Жыл бұрын

I have been waiting moths for new videos your one of my favorite channels, dont stay gone so long next time!!!!!!

@judybrown6336 Жыл бұрын

As always, excellent video! Was so happy to see the notification of a new episode! 🎉 Please keep them coming!

@drakeParagon Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Will do!

@ovjunior Жыл бұрын

Awesome stove and set up !! 👍⛵️👍

@michaelgillespie6526 Жыл бұрын

Yes! Excellent video and superb review of your heater. Hoping you someday make it out to our beautiful Pacific northwest coasts and enjoy our nearly limitless wood.😅 Have a wonderful week, you two.

@markushettrich 9 ай бұрын

Thank you from Germany for this worthfull nice Video ❤

@svporqueno Жыл бұрын

YEAH!!! MOVIE NIGHT!!!! Thanks Drake!!! Very much looking forward to that one!

@davidbrewer7844 Ай бұрын

If you ever want a serious upgrade look at the Go-Eco Adventurer- it raised boat stoves to a new level

@drakeParagon Ай бұрын

Very interesting looking stove! I like the detachable oven that can go on top. But it looks a little bigger than our hobbit stove. I don’t think we could fit it in the space we have available.

@stallion78 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing 🙏 I think that is much better than that cubic mini other people use.

@drakeParagon Жыл бұрын

I especially like having the option to burn coal, and being able to take the ashes out while the fire's going.

@dorine888 6 ай бұрын

thanks, needed that explanation 😁

@drakeParagon 5 ай бұрын

Happy to help!

@dorine888 5 ай бұрын

@@drakeParagon thanks :))

@scottdelaney98 9 ай бұрын

Nice stove, and great video. For that size stove, nut size anthracite would burn better than those large chunks. Also, don't forget to floss your grates!

@residentweavil233 Жыл бұрын

Hi sir the challenge of wind back downdraft is always fun in scotland :) noticed on a previous video a few years ago you switched t oa cowl that had a wind vane. do you still use that or have you found a better rain/wind cowl for windy days?

@PyeGuySailing Жыл бұрын

Well explained video, this stoves on the top of my list. Must say I miss your videos. For years you were my favourite sailing channel. I get editing for you tube is tedious and you'd rather spend your time actually enjoying yourself lol. But if you get back into the sailing vlog, I'll be here to watch them. One question, how much coal did you go through during a winter?

@jsvno Жыл бұрын

Where have u been? Missing contents from you.....

@Timmygobang 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for taking the time to do this video. Any chance you could so a walk around above deck. I'm interested to see how you've sealed the double wall flu pipe where it meets the deck. Thanks again.

@drakeParagon 10 ай бұрын

Thank you. I show our chimney and deck fitting I this video. m.kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r7CpaNicmtLThKM.html

@turtlezed 7 ай бұрын

You could get a 10mm steel plate cut to weld to the top to increase the size of your hob area or modify it with weld on hinged foldable flaps that store folded flat on the top and flip out when you need them??🤷‍♂️

@grzesiekmaek5707 10 ай бұрын

hello, great video and stove review. Will such a stove easily heat a larger boat, mine is 14.8 m / 4.15 / ferrocement, insulated hull ??

@NevSau Жыл бұрын

I’m definitely a fan of A multi fuel stove Have you had any problems with insurance after installing a “fire” on the boat?

@MisterMotoReturns Жыл бұрын

Enjoyed the video. How often do you clean the flue?

@drakeParagon Жыл бұрын

When we were just burning wood, I would clean the flue once a winter. But we discovered that when burning anthracite coal the flue gets a lot dirtier faster. So I'd guess at least twice a winter. I read that smokeless coal produces less soot than anthracite coal. Maybe we'll use more of that next winter.

@UsualYaddaYadda 4 ай бұрын

Hi @DrakeParagon Very interesting bolt down arrangement. I was immediately concerned that heat would transfer down the 16mm bolt, through the hearth to the ply you mention. Have you checked the ply, behind the washers and under the hearth for signs of scorching? Stainless bolts would transfer less heat than other steels. Perhaps you've used stainless given the marine environment. Thanks for the video!

@drakeParagon 4 ай бұрын

Hi @UsualYaddaYadda, Thanks! I did use stainless steel bolts, but when I did I wasn't thinking that they would transfer less heat. The heat's no issue at all. The bolts are only going through the bottom of the ash pan, which doesn't get too hot. In other versions of this stove, you have a special storage section for wood that's directly underneath the ash pan as well.

@greggegner5284 Жыл бұрын

Good video, wish we had room for the stove.

@drakeParagon Жыл бұрын

Thanks, There used to be a big hanging locker in that section of the boat.I had to demolish it down to the bare hull and then build out the space just for the stove. I took a whole summer just to prepare the space, and we lost that big locker.

@josephballerini3730 Жыл бұрын

You had mentioned moisture problems in your previous stove video. Is coal a drier fuel than wood? Does this stove dry out the moisture?

@JIFD 9 ай бұрын

Drake, is the firebox still the three pieces? Any issues with it slipping?

@RobertMatichak Жыл бұрын

@DrakeParagon Great review! Any complaints from neighbouring boats regarding smoke emanating from your chimney?

@drakeParagon Жыл бұрын

Thanks. We've never had any complains from neighboring boats about the smoke.

@deathngravity Жыл бұрын

Can you get one shipped to Seattle for my Westsail 42? (love the Palin book in the back ground!) Cheers

@drakeParagon Жыл бұрын

Our friend Éanna who sailed with us to Greenland gave that book to us recently. I bet if you wrote to Salamander Stoves they could tell you how to purchase one of their stoves for delivery in the USA. :) alex@salamanderstoves.com, gillian@salamanderstoves.com

@longglide1176 Жыл бұрын

Hi Thanks for the solid review. What impact does the exhaust have on your sails,covers and your neighbors in a marina?

@drakeParagon Жыл бұрын

Thanks, We never had any problems with soot getting up on our furled sails. When we burned wood or peat, we rarely if ever noticed any soot on deck. However, we did discover that anthracite coal did produce way more soot, and got the flue really dirty much faster than we were expecting. It also got a lot of soot on deck, which I'm going to pressure wash off. I read that "smokeless" coal produces much less ash than anthracite coal, so we may try that neat time. We've never had any complaints from neighbors about smoke or ash. And while we did get some coal soot on deck over this past winter (with a fires going all day for many months), no ash got on the boat right next to us. Burning wood and coal doesn't smell, but peat does have a distinctive smell. Here in Scotland, neighbors said that they loved the smell of peat burning in our stove. However, when we burned peat in Norway one person (who was burning wood in his stove) said he didn't like the smell of peat.

@longglide1176 Жыл бұрын

@@drakeParagon Thank you so much for your detailed reply. While we love the idea of the Hobbit and its versatility and clean burning attributes. After measuring on our new to us Westsail 32 sadly is too big. Our chimney would also be about 18" from our mast. I appreciate your input and look forward to your next post!

@stewtube1240 Жыл бұрын

How about the chimney and what it exhausts ? Any burns from sparks on deck , any black soot on the boat and juat curious what life is like for your neighbours with the smoke and fire worries ? Thank you !

@drakeParagon Жыл бұрын

Thanks! We found that of all the fuels, anthracite coal produces the most soot, both accumulating in the chimney, and even spreading onto the deck. But we haven't had any issues with soot on deck when using smokeless coal, wood, compressed logs, or peat. We've also never had complains from neighboring boats about the smoke.

@fromyonderpeaks Жыл бұрын

Drake, I hope I am not being redundant with this question. Sorry if I am. What about soot or ash on deck?

@drakeParagon Жыл бұрын

In previous years we had barely any soot on deck when we were burning just wood. But we found that burning anthracite coal does produce a lot more soot, both in the flue and also on deck. I read that smokeless coal produces a lot less soot than anthracite coal, so we may try using that in the future. Before we push off in the spring (very soon!) I'm planning to make a PFS video about our electric pressure washer, showing how I use it to clean the decks. In which case I show the soot that's accumulated on deck from a whole winter of burning anthracite coal.

@markph0204 4 ай бұрын

Curious how you vent above and out the top. How’d you install it to keep water out.

@drakeParagon 4 ай бұрын

I installed a water deck iron that I purchased from navigator stove works. It gets through bolted to the deck and the chimney gets placed over it. But when we go to sea I take the chimney off and put a big rubber bung into the hole to seal it. I never had any issues with water getting in (either from rain or salt water waves hitting the deck. I followed the installation instructions for all of this from this manual, which might give you a better idea of how it all works. www.marinestove.com/2015codmanual.pdf

@markph0204 4 ай бұрын

@@drakeParagon wow thank you sir!

@intoart340 7 ай бұрын

I don't find any dealers in the U.S. ? Where did you get it ?

@drakeParagon 7 ай бұрын

We bought ours in Scotland. But I found a website for a company in the USA called Tiny Stoves, and they say they do sell the Salamander Hobbit stove for shipping to USA and Canada. tinystoves.shop

@mikegarrity1728 Жыл бұрын

Drake we need a new adventure

@drakeParagon Жыл бұрын

Hi Mike, I hear you. We have thousands of hours of footage (of sailing Scotland, Ireland, Norway, Svalbard, and Denmark) just sitting on a hard drive and waiting for when I can devote the time to editing it all into episodes. And in real time we continuing our voyaging, and filming when can. Today is April 9th, 2023, and we are just about to push off from Scotland for an ambitious season of voyaging - Over the next 6 months we're going to sail from Scotland to Faroe, then back to Scotland, and on to Ireland, Portugal, Morocco for next winter. We will be editing our past voyage stories as well as Paragon's Favorite Stuff episodes when we can, and publishing real time videos on our Patreon page.

@andrewscotti1136 5 ай бұрын

how many hrs does the coal go for?

@drakeParagon 5 ай бұрын

I never timed it, but I think a load of coal like what you saw me put in the stove would last maybe 10 hours. I don’t think I ever used more than twice that amount in an entire day and night. Out entire boat is extremely insulated also, and that’s definitely a big factor because after the boat heats up we can damp down the burn rate to go as slow as possible.

@superwag634 Жыл бұрын

Does the stove have a price?

@drakeParagon Жыл бұрын

All of the latest prices on everything are at salamanderstoves.com. Hobbit currently selling for £710 including VAT.

@SteifWood Жыл бұрын

What about price?

@drakeParagon Жыл бұрын

All of the latest prices on everything are at salamanderstoves.com. Hobbit currently selling for £710 including VAT.

@Peter-mk1xj Жыл бұрын

Why not a Reflex Diesel stove? No dirty space-consuming firewood. Less soot and ash They burn 24/7 for months. No more cold mornings and some models produce hot water for showers or radiators

@drakeParagon Жыл бұрын

I've never used a Reflex stove. My impression is that they're fantastic heating, and pretty reliable. But if I had to do it all over again, I'd definitely get another cast iron stove for all of the reasons that I went through in the latter part of the video. I love the economics of it, love watching the fire, love the simplicity, and don't mind the ash cleanup. And then there's the whole zombie apocalypse thing that I mentioned. :)

@drakeParagon Жыл бұрын

I definitely prefer the look of wood burning behind a massive glass window over a diesel flame behind a small window, and I'm certainly not going to swap out our stove, but I am very curious about the black iron stove that you mentioned. Do you have a link? I can't seem to find it when searching for Refo Landov 6000.

@UUBrahman Жыл бұрын

@@drakeParagon google the company name "refleks" with furnace, then products, then oil furnace, then at the very bottom is the 6000 a black cast iron, see the attachment which brings up a Word document with 4 photos and diagram with measurements.

@drakeParagon Жыл бұрын

Is this the one? refleksheaters.eu/product/refleks-marine-heater-60m/

@UUBrahman Жыл бұрын

@@drakeParagon No. It looks 90% like your heater, just has diesel plumbing on it. I posed a link on your facebook page to the company website.

@mp1117mp 7 ай бұрын

Dommage pas en Français 😢😢😢

@anthonyrstrawbridge Жыл бұрын

✌️👁️👁️👁️👍

@TicklerDude 9 ай бұрын

$1K for a wood stove that can only heat a 400 sqft tiny home. No thanks

@aquious953 Жыл бұрын

I have the cubic grizzly stove on my boat. I think if you don't have to pay for wood, it's cheeper than diesel or electric. I like having all three options on board. Could easily bolt or weld on a steel plate to expand the top.

@drakeParagon Жыл бұрын

I never thought about making our own custom plate expansion on top of the stove for additional cooking surface. Thanks for the suggestion! :)