I bet his boss was PISSED.

don't lie, because you're caught. You're a fan of Taylor Anderson's The Destroyermen. Only a destroyermen fan would catch what you did. @ 57 seconds in thats NOT a clemson class destroyer, its a wickies class, specifically DD-163....Uss Walker the ship in The Destroyermen series!

@Maritime Horrors I'd like to just say one thing. The Akagi was converted into a carrier due to the terms of the 1922 Washington Naval Treaty.

Battle of May Island would be a terrific topic.

or maybe help him survive?

@@greenwave819 or that

Imagining someones death really makes you feel hopeless

It probably never happened, aye did I tell you about that 300lb fish I caught with a spear back in 76..?

@@Roscoe.P.Coldchain No you didn't. Please tell us all about that epic catch. But please use the metric system, as only three countries use the other system.

Me, wearing glasses: *removes glasses, yeets glasses, proceeds to walk away and slam into every wall/post on my path*

@@Momo_Kawashima nooo momo-chan don't yeet your glasses 😭😭😭

Makings of a decent Tales From the Crypt episode for sure as he comes back "for the crew that he felt wronged him!"

Man deserves a medal, or some sort of recognition.

@@Momo_Kawashima *Joins in the yeeting of glasses*

I'm not so sure that SupSal had the knowledge or equipment to salvage anything more than small equipment.

I’m not sure if this is just a joke related to the Clemson class or actual fact, however I’ve heard before that the bookkeeper in charge of their order accidentally ordered 200 instead of 20. Regardless of its veracity or not, still a funny story to explain why bringing a couple ships out of mothballs was cheaper than fixing several grounded ships

@@casualsatanist it's a joke. In reality, the Navy saw the huge role early U boats had in ww1 and the navy realized it needed a far larger and more modern escort fleet for its battleships and supply convoys. During the war, destroyers were needed by the hundreds and the Navy wanted to be ready. Problem is, the war they were built for ended the same year construction started. They needed 300 destroyers in 1918, so they ordered them. They didn't need any in 1919, so they mothballed them. It was here that the navy actually learned how to preserve ships, and the failures in the Clemson mothball fleet (many of them rusted to near uselessness... We sold those to GB as lend lease at the start of ww2) actually taught the navy the lessons learned and teqniques to preserve ships it uses to this day.

The US NAVY allows recreational.diving on certain dates. A friend of mine dived on them. He said it was a bit scary as the wrecks are very close to large rocks.

@@andyhastings5950 The currents out there are also pretty nasty.

Do you know if he actually suffered consequences for that court martial? It strikes me that if you disobey an order, they might court marshal you simply as a matter of process, and if the reasons why you disobeyed the order are clear and make sense, then you wouldn't get in trouble. AFAIK, a court marshal does not indicate that there was consequences for it, just that he had to do state his reasons why he made the decisions he did. It's like how you'll probably still have to go to court if you kill someone in self defence. Yeah, it might be obvious self defence, but they might feel it necessary to bring you before the court and make sure they get the full facts of the case out in an official setting.

Interesting thought. I can’t say, that I know if the court martial was naval due process. It’s been so long since I read the articles. I also recall his crew were able to help in the rescue. I wish I knew this officer’s name so we could re-examine the proceedings. I was left with impression that the court martial affected his career and advancement. If that’s the case, then it’s nothing but wrong.

Pretty sure he wasn't sanctioned at all.

You might be thinking of Roper on board the Kennedy. I don't think he was charged with anything, although he did testify before the Board of Inquiry. Quoting from my own book on this: Captain Watson accepted responsibility for the incident, but the Court of Inquiry recommended a trial by general court martial for eleven officers: Watson, Lt. Cmdr. Donald T. Hunter, and Lt. (jg) Lawrence F. Blodgett of the Delphy; Capt. Robert Morris, commander of Division 33; Cmdr. William S. Pye of Division 31; Cmdr. Louis P. Davis, captain of the Woodbury; Cmdr. William L. Calhoun of the Young; Cmdr. William S. Toaz of the S.P. Lee; Lt. Cmdr. Walter D. Seed of the Fuller; Lt. Cmdr. Herbert O. Roesch of the Nicholas; and Lt. Cmdr. Richard H. Booth of the Chauncey. Watson and Hunter were eventually found guilty of culpable inefficiency and negligence. Blodgett was acquitted when it was determined he had not been the Delphy’s navigator, as investigators had previously assumed. Roesch was found guilty of negligence, but all other defendants were acquitted. Watson received a loss of 150 numbers on the list of captains, while Hunter lost 100 numbers on the list of lieutenant commanders. This meant that neither man would ever be eligible for promotion beyond their current rank. Watson would go on to serve as assistant commandant of the Fourteenth Naval District at Pearl Harbor before retiring six years later in 1929. He died in 1942. Hunter served as navigator on the battleship Nevada, first lieutenant of the Oklahoma, and instructor at the Naval War College. He also retired in 1929. He died in 1948. Blodgett was promoted to full lieutenant in 1926 and lieutenant commander in 1941. He continued on active duty until 1947, commanding naval ammunitions depots in Hawaii during and after World War II. He died in 1958. William Calhoun retired in 1946 as a four-star admiral after forty-four years of service. During World War II he ran logistic support of the Pacific fleet and naval shore-based establishments in the entire Pacific area. He died in 1963.

Michael Ray, well done! Thank you for taking my vague recollection and giving us actual substance with an account of the final outcome.

Have you seen the book Tragedy at Honda?

*sigh* Ok built 14 more....

Pretty much every USA player in HOI4

@@lucasfragoso7634 Sounds about right

Prolly shouldn't be names things after Clemson

Its okay, taxpayers wont mind. Free healthcare is overrated anyway.

Search for Battle of May Island for an event that's even wilder.

Well, it wasn't really routine. The earthquake in Japan caused things to be not routine, in fact.

The megalomania of the US Empire knows no bounds.

Happens for many countries. Maybe to different degrees, but it still does.

I love history but I never heard of this happening before either. Learn something new every day.

That gives this narrative a ironic twist

It would make a great movie. We wrote a novel based on the disaster (Dead Reckoning by Michael Corbin Ray & Therese Vannier). Screenwriter Terry Rossio (Pirates of the Caribbean) had this to say about it: "Enjoy this book before it hits the silver screen. With a story so compelling and cinematic, populated with irresistible characters, it's destined to become a major motion picture."

Producers would probably love the way that its a location within a relatively short drive to LA

I live in Santa Maria and have never heard of this before shockingly.

are you just so used to everyone mispronouncing the name of the town that you dont even bother correcting it? lol (im from there and i dont think ive ever head anyone that hasnt been there ever call it the right name, vin diesel mispronounces it in the original fast and furious movie talking about the prison lol

@@DoctorRobair Probably a good thing. Only real bit of recognition it has is a mural in the alley behind Jaspers...

Uuh, pudding

@@Momo_KawashimaI've been there. Just as filling but with a nasty taste.

Absurd and Frustrating is a pretty good definition of most people's service in the US Navy lol. But I appreciate it.

I was assigned to VAFB in the early 90s, and remember a young Lt who was there for some annual computer war gaming. The signs were up on the beach, but he went in anyway and wound up with two broken forearms when a wave smashed him against some rocks. His unit went back to Minot without him.

@@rkelsey3341 That's an old Air Force trick to extend the TDY AWAY from Minot.

Ah,,, another Drach fan

ole Charlie knew our super torpedos were JUNK

I'm currently reading Thunder Below, the story of the Barb, and he appears in that.

@@darladoxstater8528 Great book. Gene Fluckey was one of the best, absolutely fearless

The French trying to make superfast destroyers: What the fuck

@@SudrianTales What le fuck you mean :)

When some of the Clemsons were converted to APD High Speed Transports they were quick for a troop carrier but I don’t think any of them topped 35 knots, and certainly not 40-47. Good ships, but not magic.

look up WW II, Savo island (battle of)

I mean theres a lot of idiots watching their videos too...finding gems is on us

News reports at the time said the wounded were taken by train to Santa Barbara. That makes sense as they were transporting a lot of men, and it would have been more difficult to shuttle them all individually to Lompoc. That mural at the veterans building has a great back story. It was painted by an inmate serving a life sentence at the Lompoc correctional facility who taught himself to paint while in prison. He later received a presidential pardon.

P.S.S. Color me curious. Does the mural offer spoken commentary? If not, it "commemorates," not "commentates."

That didn't happen till 1955, plastics were still in the toddler stage then.

No matter what way you slice it. Though on the bright side, it could always have been worse.

@@MaritimeHorrors yeah, the whole squadron could have run aground instead of half of it

It seems the second group believed the radio nav system.

Much appreciated, I actually love that channel and was inspired by him.

*gasp* and you reply in less than a minute?! Is there anything you can't do?

Calculus?

@@MaritimeHorrors Dunno if you'll get this or not, but recently I've been thinking about starting my own youtube channel. Got any advice?

You're asking me? I'm honestly flattered, but I don't even know how I've even gotten this far lol. I suppose consistency, have a good subject matter, and be engaging. Other than that, I have no clue lol

He was a captain and acting as commodore of the destroyer squadron when this happened. His father was an admiral and he had high hopes and expectations of following that path. There had been another accident not long before this one, though, that put a mark on his career. I forget the details, but something about a ship he was in charge of colliding with another ship that just happened to be carrying the President of the United State. Not a good look.

Here's to USS Walker and the American Navy Clan!

There's also the USS Corry abandoned in the Napa River. It's another Clemson class destroyer and was part of Destroy Squadron 12, which performed maneuvers with DesRon 11 on the morning of the disaster.