I have a simple idea, you only do English/Scottish trains, why not some Irish/northern Irish there are plenty of ideas and some of the NCCs stuff can be just a retool

Kept us busy thats for sure!

Thanks Rob, really glad you enjoy the content!

Thanks Richard

You're very welcome Steve!

Yep, can't wait myself!

Almost dead on!

Oooo nice one!

Thanks Laurie, hope you're resting up!

@@hornbymag I'm all over it now thanks. Took a week - vertigo isn't nice at all. Now just enjoying moving into my new house. Cheers.

Interesting

Good to know

Good spot, I need glasses :)

You're welcome Nick

@@hornbymag 👍👍

Thanks James that's very kind, would you mind messaging the Facebook page. Regards Richard

@@hornbymag yeah no worries Richard I've sent one to you now Cheers James

Thanks Kev, we can't wait!

You never know Mike

haha I need to get on with the new layout

@@hornbymag 😂 just so happens were in lockdown part 3. the best way to stay safe is to build new new junction surley?

Glad you got what you wanted Martin, I know I'm going to need some overtime this year!

Thanks Ben! Its a tough world out there but competition is a good thing for the consumer.

​@@PeggyDez some time you can tell by looking at I photo. The body looks like cheap plastic. The bodywork has a gap at the back where the windows. The handrail looks like someone has just put gold paint on them but not I nice see-through gold metal paint job. This wants I think as you can see the model on Hornby Magazine youtube videos under (Hornby's six-wheel carriage)The inside is a good job, Hornby. But you do get a choice to have light or not light with the Hatton one. Plus there give the customer I better choice of livery. (1. Plus you get an 18-pin decoder socket in lit models for digital control) (2. give you a choice with Detailing Optional lower footboards) 3. ( Centre wheelset on 6 wheel coaches slides for tight curves and is also removable ) But if you like it that good but I will be sticking with the Hatton one. But keep safe ​@PegasusDesigns and JBM in these hard times.

Gives you longer to save up ;-)

Not a TTS chip but I'm sure there's a 3rd party option

Nice!

Makes for a very nice collection :D

haha

Nice!

Thats what you call a Good order.

Typical, you can grab it here with free delivery: shop.keypublishing.com/product/View/productCode/HM21BUNDLE/Hornby%202021%20Catalogue%20BUNDLE

I found it at my local Tesco now today

Pass it onto Hornby, you never know

@@hornbymag have done so will let you know response

Ooooo

It must be difficult to cater for everyone

@@hornbymag It's not the manufacturers job to cater for everyone. Their objective is to sell in volume, make a profit and stay in business. If Joe bloggs from Duckfart, Derbyshire is upset that they are not producing a specific piece of rolling stock in a specific livery, they're not interested until they get many hundreds of requests. At which point Joe and his cohorts will complain at the rrp without considering the tooling and development costs of such a small run. Hornby and their competitors are businesses, not some sort of charity striving to ensure that everything ever used on the railway is preserved in miniature. I think modellers sometimes lose track of that. It has now become an expensive hobby, largely because the product range is so wide and varied.

@@PeggyDez Yes, I forgot that we are in the age of entitlement.

Richard is also waiting for the MK5 sets :O

im disappointed really with the announcement, apart from loram mk2 coach pair i wont be getting anything.

Thanks!

@@hornbymag Railroad used to be an odd-bin for outdated toolings, but recently they seem to be selling less detailed versions of modern toolings. This is a really smart move. We're told that's it's the separately fitted details / enhanced paintwork that increase production cost, so if they are producing a single basic tooling, but offering both a lower-cost 'Railroad' version (essentially the same model with less separately fitted detail) and a high priced super-detailed version of the same model, this is giving the market a choice and hedging Hornby's bets. Super-detailed models at £200 are pricing many of us out of the market. The other problem with super-detail is it's often too delicate. All the manufacturers need to be reminded that £100 is a lot of money and we quite rightly expect a good, but not necessarily super-detailed, modern model for that money. Hornby should be commended for offering us that choice (I think they are unique in the market for that) - it's good business for them and good for our hobby, particularly in making it accessible to newcomers. Be worth Bachmann having a look at this, they've got a massive range, including older toolings, many of which are appearing as bargain sell-offs. My model of 2020 was probably their Jubilee which I picked up for £100 new. I wasn't desperate for a Jube, but took a punt on it for that price. It's turned out to be one of my favourites.

Interesting thought

Yes the same jason fisher I would love to see s160 in this Livery. Navy S160 in these Livery. 1.transportation corps Red No.2253 Omaha with a nameplate 2.transportation corps USA 5820 grey 3.Pinterest MÁV 411.118 (ex-USATC S160) 4.All Different livery they have worn in their working life would be good too. But keep safe jason fisherin these hard times.

Might be worth suggesting it to them

Likewise!

Thanks

Can't beat a good clan!

Good point

Plenty of people do track, what about Peco?

C&L, Marcway, SMP too

Treat yourself!

You can grab the bundle here with free delivery: shop.keypublishing.com/product/View/productCode/HM21BUNDLE/Hornby 2021 Catalogue BUNDLE

Thanks for that placed my order

Keep an eye out for your local retailer listing them :)

Hornby's prices are better than Bachmann's and Hornby is far from killing their market.

Hornby were going the right way when they first introduced the Railroad range, prices were pretty much spot on. Since then they've skyrocketed. Unfortunately the PlayTrains are IMO a step in the wrong direction - they're gimmicky kids toys, not models of real trains.

You can buy different couplings to do just that. 😁

All sold out I'm afraid, you can purchase them from local model shops or Hornby Hobbies directly

As mentioned in the video, in tescos from 6th and avaliable online e from the link in the video description. :-)

@@hornbymag hi. Thanks for answering. I tried 3 Tesco expresses (The Big Shops) this morning they had the Hornby Magazine but no catalogue.

@@peterbradford5987 it's available here with free delivery: shop.keypublishing.com/product/View/productCode/HM21BUNDLE/Hornby%202021%20Catalogue%20BUNDLE

Its all sold out online and only the 16th - not much use really heh?

I feel sorry fore hattons

That's a question for Hornby Hobbies rather than the Magazine.

You can’t have a monopoly over a prototype. Hornby we’re probably planning their version long before hattons and still decided to go ahead. At the end of the day the very basis of capitalism (or business in general) is competition.

@@hornbymag sorry

@@jameshardy4354 Nothing to apologize for! :)

Yes this is one of his paintings

They'll be avaliable separately

Thanks!

Sorry about that Keith, give our customer service line a call and they'll be able to help. 01780 480404

@@hornbymag hi just phoned and got a catalog on its way with the dicount

@@keithhitchings5553 Perfect, enjoy it Keith :)

@@hornbymag hi catalog just arrived thank you

You'd be amazed how many duplicate projects go on behind the scenes, having to plan well in advance sometimes its too late to cancel a project.

They've committed to the class 91 now so I suspect this won't be the last we see of it

Both excellent models

You can grab a copy here with free postage: shop.keypublishing.com/product/View/productCode/HM21BUNDLE/Hornby 2021 Catalogue BUNDLE

nice one!

They're on route Steven :)

@@hornbymag for a business to survive it needs to sell its products . A business needs to listen to its customers and sell to them . No wonder Hornby is Struggling . They are not selling and earning cash . So good luck Hornby in surviving

Still lots of Hornby products to buy, not just about new releases.

@@thebritfarmer so why bother having new releases if they not going to be available for another 12 months ? Extremely bad business practice and Hornby will go to the wall if they dont up their game . Ive over £1000 worth of pre-orders which are 12 month old . Im seriously considering cancelling them all . Buy them cheaper on Ebay when Hornby can be bother to start selling them . Shocking way to treat customers . Without customer good will a business will collapse .

@@stevenfoleyuk9404 You are aware that there's something called Covid-19 going around? Some of the work on new releases have been slowed as they can't get enough as they may like to work on it. They have to take their time. This is the same with pretty much every other model rail company, they take months to release their models and some even longer than Hornby. This is not bad business practice or bad treatment of customers, if anything it's good practice as they are making sure that the models are accurate, have no faults with the moulding and reliable and this takes time. There have been companies who've rushed models only to have numerous problems with them, thus recalling them and fixing them, that's not good practice. I'd rather wait to make sure they make a great model rather than having them rushing a faulty one. You need to learn to be patient mate.

Thanks!

One of the sets with a loop of track may be the best option to get you going.

@@hornbymag Thank you, starting small is a good idea, finding my feet, and what all the terms mean, building the land scape I find interesting, lots to be learned, mistake's to be made all part of the fun :)

Thanks Paddy, glad you enjoyed it!

Well said .....we need spare parts Hornby and reliable ones

Get in touch with Hornby directly if you need parts :)

Have you tried 'Peter's Spares' - they stock a massive range of Hornby parts ?

@@hornbymag and get the standard response - dont know when or if they will be back in stock. Peter's spares have lots listed but most of what I need have been temporarily unavailable for a very long time.

I don't think that you understand how supermarkets work! Supermarkets would probably insist on such a large discount from hornby that it would be not commercially viable. And what about all of our great independent shops? How long would they last competing against tesco? And as for layouts in stores - you're deluded!

@@steveluckhurst2350 How depressingly realistic. I'd prefer Morrisons anyway.

@@steveluckhurst2350 just shows how overpriced and elitist the hobby has become

@@rbeamish6492 I'm afraid I have to disagree with you on that òne. Models are indeed expensive, but I don't believe they are "overpriced". I believe that the price is high because of the relatively small market and hence low production runs for a highly intricate piece of machinery. It would be interesting to compare the cost of a loco as a proportion of average weekly wage with its counterpart 20, 30, 40 years ago. Has modelling become elitist? Sadly I think you may be right, but then the layouts which we see in the magazines and at exhibitions are indeed the best of the best and are therefore literally "elite." The popularity of the magazines and, when available, exhibitions, show that the hobby is still strong with many people aspiring to achieve a layout such as Minsterly, New Junction, Lakeside or countless others. You mentioned in another thread that you joined the hobby 12 years ago, but with the greatest of respect I have to tell you that you are still a mere beginner!

@@PeggyDez hi thanks for your reply and info about Drax tooling.on biomass trucks.which I awere of . now there seems to be a new policy at hornby ref products and business opertunitys I hope someone might have a descusion with someone at Drax ref reuse /purchasing their tooling which would be more cost effective than making new but if this is not possible ask Drax to commission a second larger batch of trucks at more reasonable price that won't take over 2 years to sell. kind regards ralph

@@ralphlees6438 And how would you feel if you had purchased these units when they were offered on a "limited production" basis?

@@steveluckhurst2350 hi Steve I must admit I have never been a fan of limited edition models although I own plenty. In my opinion it's just away of trying to charge exorbitant price for a standard model in a fancy box and a numbered piece of paper. kind regards ralph

The prices may be less in shops.

@@jackhstproductions649 shop around ;-)

@@jackhstproductions649 I would suggest that you start like everyone else, buying what you can afford second hand and treating the catalogue as a wish list. I was way into my twenties when I bought my first brand new loco from a shop!

@tree down you carnt even sell a locomotive to raise funds these days fare too expensive

@@jameshardy4354 ?? can't sell? why not?

Good choice!

It may just be the stock used photo

Plus 26 newly tooled items

@@hornbymag newly tooled, but more expensive and basically no models of different prototypes....

@@rhiwderinraytube no more expensive than Bachmann though

@@Frserthegreenengine agreed, but I think Bachmann are better detailed....

@@rhiwderinraytube that's debatable, most of them lack die-cast boards. Not to mention most of them have worse mechanisms than Hornby's

Boom!

Yep only 9 in the rake

Hornby is in the name of the magazine, I think it goes without saying 😂

@@CymruJedi Didn’t think about that😂

Thats a question for Hornby Hobbies rather than Hornby Magazine (Separate companies).

Bachmann are doing that range now :)

the license has changed hands, Bachmann now have it for both America & the UK, so their existing range will get released here

Hornby gave up the rights to the range at the end of 2019. Bachmann now retail the Thomas series.

Thanks Clive!

Whatever you decide Steve, we've got you covered for videos.

@@hornbymag I'll be here, defo! :)

Which new version will you get?

I hope it comes with a proper smoke box door the picture looks like a black blob on the front

Cant wait to get hands on

Firmly a 'OO' manufacturer

@@hornbymag What a shame and I thought businesses would like to diversify and make money instead of sticking there heads in the sand. That's what happened to a lot of companies in the 50s and 60s. I bet there are a lot of N Gauge modelers who would love a Hornby loco.

In the same way that Boeing do not make chocolate bars.

Sign of the times sadly

We covered this last year in the magazine, with out China based manufacturing we'd be seeing locos three times the price.

@@PS-jr1yq people with your attitude are the ones that kill off hobbies and people's interest in them