Patrick: *makes a video about subtitles* Me: This is RIVETING STUFF.
@dwc19644 жыл бұрын
I'd seen commentary about the language shift in this movie before, even with some of the same references - but the explanation of what, exactly, is going on with the storytelling by the use of this device hasn't been done like this in any of them. Well bloody done!
@patrickhwillems4 жыл бұрын
Remember when I said every video I make some dumb mistake that haunts me forever? Well in this video I got the location/language in Extraction wrong (it's Bangladesh/Bengali) and added an "s" onto Book of Revelation. Whoops.
@lucypeterson22314 жыл бұрын
We still love ya, Patrick!
@Litera_Trotter4 жыл бұрын
I was going to comment. Love you man. Just found your channel due to X cellent scene playlist.
@uncivilized_samurai4 жыл бұрын
When you here "...barely an inconvenience" and it sounds suddenly like a pitch meeting
@yt_Ajay_4 жыл бұрын
I've been bingeing those videos the past few days and that moment lit up a whole bunch of fireworks in my brain
@uncivilized_samurai4 жыл бұрын
@@yt_Ajay_ Same with me, it's hard to unheer it now XD
@davincent984 жыл бұрын
Being reminded of Pitch Meetings is TIGHT
@KillianoC4 жыл бұрын
How could you slip in a Pitch Meeting reference? Super easy, barely an inconvenience
@Dayvit784 жыл бұрын
I believe it was unintentional, but Ryan George has so thoroughly owned that phrase, it ought to be copyrighted.
@Nolinquisitor4 жыл бұрын
"I should achieve a full Alan Moore." Not 2 minutes in. Here's your goddamn thumb up.
@dysomniak4 жыл бұрын
Doesn't count unless you also practice black magic and start each day by yelling at the sea clad in only boots and a trench coat.
@UkuleleVillain4 жыл бұрын
What about me becoming a nudist and achieving a full Dr. Manhattan
@Nolinquisitor4 жыл бұрын
@@UkuleleVillain All things considered, the thumb up is blue. So, go for it.
@richteffekt4 жыл бұрын
I really don't know what to make of Charl increasingly pushing his personal and frankly divisive agenda. Enabling and giving him a pass like "classic Charl" or the probably inevitable "it's just satire", "Coconuts will be coconuts", you name it, will only make it worse imo.
@TheDocfri4 жыл бұрын
This was my first time watching one of these "talk show" videos of PHW and I didn't know the gig, and basically it was seeing comments like these that forced me to watch it and I can't believe what this channel has become. Of course there were "controversial" takes before but this is just another level. It is insulting at a very deep level, honestly irregardless of one's personal politics.
@sena1674 жыл бұрын
I laughed
@noezito84 жыл бұрын
I know, right?
@saml3024 жыл бұрын
Let's get one thing straight. Charl doesn't "get a pass". Charl earned it because he lived it. Take your anti-coconut agenda elsewhere
@rossmorton70024 жыл бұрын
But he has such a charming lop-sided grin!
@Ybarchov214 жыл бұрын
In Valkyrie the same thing happens early on in the movie. You first hear a bunch of germans swearing an Oath to Adolf Hitler which then leads into Tom Cruise writing a letter in german. As he's saying everything in german, you slowly hear the english translation fade in and the german fade out until the english remains. Probably not the same finesse as trading off on the word Armageddon, but it's still a cool effect.
@cybersquire4 жыл бұрын
5:15 "...barely an inconvenience" The moment 2 youtube channel universes collide. Which, of course, is TIGHT.
@qsquared88334 жыл бұрын
Oh, being tight is tight
@connquerer4 жыл бұрын
I’m gonna need you to get all the way off my back about that
@zan9172 жыл бұрын
Came here to make this comment. You beat me by a year.
@cremetangerine823 жыл бұрын
5:12 - On the “one-inch barrier”: This is something that I have mentioned when I used to work at Blockbuster (yes, I know that dates me). There’s so many films that I would try to recommend, but the fact that they were in subtitles instantly made people go “no, too much of an effort“. It was frustrating considering how so many great films come from other countries, as Americans are missing out on so many great movies.
@ZachBobBob4 жыл бұрын
I'm so goddamn invested in that Rugrats rant
@darkthorpocomicknight78914 жыл бұрын
Waiting on Last Action Hero - never gonna happen but I can hope LOL
@gilliannash49444 жыл бұрын
Seconded.
@dwc19644 жыл бұрын
@@zlodrim9284 it's got one of my all-time favorite Charles Dance lines: "If God were a villain, he'd be _me_ !"
@digitaljanus4 жыл бұрын
@@zlodrim9284 I'd say it was because audiences at the time weren't really ready for that kind of meta-humour, but WHO FRAMED ROGER RABBIT? was pretty damn meta and a huge hit. So it's probably the weird tonal issues--parts of it feel kid- and family-friendly, other parts are pretty dark and violent. That kind of mashup can work fine in the late 2010s (DEADPOOL) but maybe not so much in the early 90s.
@umjackd4 жыл бұрын
Movies with Mikey has a great episode about it.
@SeanBoyce-gp4 жыл бұрын
As Uncle Dan said: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nrmgl6h4laysdnU.html&feature=emb_title Totally worth your time.
@Joka1910954 жыл бұрын
"Extraction" is actually mostly set in Bangladesh, where they speak Bengali. The beginning is in India, where they speak Hindi. 2 different countries and languages
@turbochargedfilms4 жыл бұрын
No language called "Bengali", the people are Bengali but the language is Bangla. Pedantic, maybe, but it's kinda like saying "Indian" as a language instead of Hindi. Also, for whatever reason, Bangladeshi characters spoke Indian Bangla (not that I'm complaining since that's the only bangla I understand lol)
@Tajbor874 жыл бұрын
@@turbochargedfilms keep on being pedantic, i've learned something today. Thanks.
@chaddafoe31054 жыл бұрын
@@turbochargedfilms Bengali =/= Bangali Bengali is the English form of saying "Bangla", but yes I get where you're coming from.
@arnieiam4 жыл бұрын
Also in India, no one speaks their native language exclusively, they constantly shove in english words and sentences. Kinda like how Congolese people shove in french words and phrases with lingala.
@alphabettical14 жыл бұрын
@@molodezhnaja I'm not sure what they could've done, setting-wise, to convey this better to us. I think we'd still slip into thinking it is India because we don't know how to recognise the difference.
@yuoma4 жыл бұрын
This channel is one of the few things that’s better with covid.
@elmoisred6164 жыл бұрын
That's so funny I was just randomly thinking of 13th Warrior as you're explaining how a director can use language transition to bring the audience closer to the characters, and low and behold, it was the same director =0
@matthewmcneany4 жыл бұрын
"I've seen that film - it's a pretty good film" I feel personally attacked by this audience insert character.
@mrogilvie4 жыл бұрын
Okay, was anyone going to tell me that John McTiernan went to jail for spying on his producer or was I supposed to hear about it as a footnote at the end of a Patrick H Willems video myself?
@justinpipes854 жыл бұрын
He must have really admired Nixon.
@NaiaPhykit14 жыл бұрын
Technically he went to jail for lying to the FBI, the spying thing was out of the statute of limitation.
@antonsidorov75314 жыл бұрын
There's no word "Buckaroo" in Russian, though. I guess it's a name so you can argue this is why it's not translated. In any case, I guess it was meant to mean a generic "cowboy" coming from a Soviet Officer to classify the Americans aboard their Submarine. This word wouldn't really be used in this situation since I doubt anyone in Russia even knows what "Buckaroo" is (I didn't before I googled). Which kinds supports the subject Patrick is talking about even more. The word is used specifically to emphasize a forming connection. Unrelated, but, I recently finished watching "The Americans" TV show. Being Russian myself, I wondered what was the reason for me finding most of the Russian characters there more likable than the leads of the show, despite them also being Russian in the story. I guess now I understand why. The leads rarely spoke Russian and when they did it was with a terrible accent.
@robsonwaterkemper4 жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly Sam Neill character was a USA enthusiastic so he would know a few words in english which would make sense to be him to be the one to deepens the bond between them in that scene.
@StanNotSoSaint4 жыл бұрын
@@robsonwaterkemper that would explain it. As a Russian I concur that I never knew the meaning of that word.
@lost1head4 жыл бұрын
Ukrainian here. Had no idea what Buckaroo means as well.
@robsonwaterkemper4 жыл бұрын
@@lost1head Buckaroo appears to be an old way in English to name a cowboy. It derives from old latin forms of the profession en.wiktionary.org/wiki/buckaroo
@robsonwaterkemper4 жыл бұрын
@@lost1head There were also an obscure Sci-Fi movie on the eighties that used that name. I don't remember which year the movie happens, so I don't know if the Sam Neill could have seen this movie in smuggled VHS bootleg back in Soviet Union en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adventures_of_Buckaroo_Banzai_Across_the_8th_Dimension
@KarelPKerezman4 жыл бұрын
... I'd never put together the similar techniques used in Red October and in 13th Warrior. Damn, McTiernan is GOOD at this shit.
@777jbauer7774 жыл бұрын
"other than being one of the two Michael Bay films in The Criterion Collection..."
@n0zenzur4 жыл бұрын
I prefer Armageddon over Endgame.
@Geronimo_Jehoshaphat4 жыл бұрын
Quick mention that director Bryan Singer and screenwriter Christopher McQuarrie worked out a similar ingenuity for the language barrier delimma in "Valkyrie" with Tom Cruise in the opening credits.
@nognaught4 жыл бұрын
Alright, I'm usually a fan of charle and his antics. But he's gone too far this time - I'm really just disappointed that you would air such filth
@tatehildyard53324 жыл бұрын
These are dark times. We’re all doing what we have to in order to get to the next day.
@TheSH1N1GAM14 жыл бұрын
That’s my secret, foreign films. I always watch with subtitles on.
@NidhinMohammad964 жыл бұрын
Saw the first seven minutes of the video, paused it, downloaded the movie, watched it and came back for the rest of the video. The things I do for Patrick
@friedem0n20044 жыл бұрын
You're one of the only KZfaq Channels that keeps me sane during all of this
@BorrieBeats4 жыл бұрын
To the detriment of their sanity.
@Jogwheel4 жыл бұрын
I had the idea for this video like seven years ago, but couldn't think of an interesting way to discuss it, other than just showing the various movies that employ a "translation" gimmick. "Mars Needs Moms" is another one. Love that you used the original scripts to break down your thesis regarding audience alliances. Great work as usual, Patrick.
@holdenmaximus93103 жыл бұрын
Sorry to be so off topic but does someone know a method to get back into an Instagram account? I was dumb lost the login password. I would appreciate any tricks you can offer me
@aaronjairo54563 жыл бұрын
@Holden Maximus instablaster ;)
@holdenmaximus93103 жыл бұрын
@Aaron Jairo I really appreciate your reply. I found the site through google and I'm in the hacking process now. Looks like it's gonna take a while so I will get back to you later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
@holdenmaximus93103 жыл бұрын
@Aaron Jairo it worked and I actually got access to my account again. Im so happy! Thank you so much, you saved my ass!
@aaronjairo54563 жыл бұрын
@Holden Maximus No problem :D
@Jon.A.Scholt4 жыл бұрын
The political officer is named Putin! How am I just finding this out?
@pasza_dem4 жыл бұрын
Back then it was just another russian surname:)
@dwc19644 жыл бұрын
@@pasza_dem If he had the same name in the book, it could very well be a direct reference, as Vladimir Putin was someone Clancy would have known about even back then.
@OldGruetzgesicht4 жыл бұрын
@@dwc1964 How would Clancy have known about some random KGB officer in 1984?
@axelfoley1334 жыл бұрын
In 1990, you put in box. In 2020, Putin box you.
@dwc19644 жыл бұрын
@@OldGruetzgesicht okay, TBH I hadn't looked any of the information up before - when Clancy wrote the book, or what Putin was doing at the time. So I just went to Wikipedia and found: "After training, he worked in the Second Chief Directorate (counter-intelligence), before he was transferred to the First Chief Directorate, where he monitored foreigners and consular officials in Leningrad. In September 1984, Putin was sent to Moscow for further training at the Yuri Andropov Red Banner Institute." So yeah, Putin doesn't seem to have been that high-up or famous before 1984. At best, his job of "monitor[ing] foreigners and consular officials in Leningrad" might have put him on someone's radar who Clancy might have consulted in researching the book; but as I type this, I realize what a stretch that is. "Never mind!"
@TheNonlinearLife4 жыл бұрын
Patrick! As a person with English as my second language, I have always thought about this movie as the blueprint on how to make the perfect translation between languages in movies. You just made my point look good! Seriously, you are on fire!
@alejoparedes23884 жыл бұрын
"McTiernan Mania continues! ...and also concludes." That made me lmao.
@mrflipperinvader79224 жыл бұрын
Was sad
@kaicreech73364 жыл бұрын
Doesn't John Krasinki play Jack Ryan?
@jasondavidcox4 жыл бұрын
he does in the Amazon show. Jack Ryan is kinda like Bond, as in a bunch of different actors have played him.
@shahzadm54 жыл бұрын
The majority of Extraction takes place in Bangladesh not India, and while some characters speak Hindi, the villains you referred to are generally speaking Bengali.
@darkthorpocomicknight78914 жыл бұрын
Extraction ain't Bourne that's for sure. Bourne Supremacy was much more realistic.
@golgarisoul4 жыл бұрын
+
@gettinbattered4 жыл бұрын
As a person of Bangladeshi heritage it bothered me that Patrick didn't get this right
@zeilian4 жыл бұрын
Classic 13:53
@tathagatamitra97534 жыл бұрын
Yeah dude... Just came here to type this... As a Bengali guy, this is insulting... This is the language of Ray. Without Ray there'd be no Ajantrik, without which there'd be no Taxi driver, and consequently no Joker.
@solidsnake110874 жыл бұрын
I have to say, when you brought out that PHYSICAL ORIGINAL COPY of the script, all I could do was loudly pronounce "now that is some fucking dedication!" You rock dude!
@Anaguma794 жыл бұрын
I always interpreted Ramius replying "It is." in English as him actually shifting to English for Jack Ryan's sake. It implies "You speak a little Russian. That's smart. I speak a little English." I would have to go back an rewatch the movie to see how that interpretation holds up, though.
@HydraulicDesign4 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's it, everyone's speaking English from that point.
@quoth1284 жыл бұрын
You should consider doing a video about Mctiernan's other movie, the thirteenth warrior you'd do it well i'm sure
@bantharadio89604 жыл бұрын
You can draw sounds?
@Clarence_Oddbody4 жыл бұрын
I saw the original trailer when it was called “The Eaters of the Dead.”
@BradyPostma4 жыл бұрын
The novel it was based on was also called, "Eaters of the Dead." It was written by Michael Crition (which I've probably misspelled), the same guy who wrote Sphere and Jurassic Park.
@shoesfillupwithwater4 жыл бұрын
This is such a fantastic episode! Thank you for the movie lesson! I hope one day you can see John Krasinski as Jack Ryan came to see the Soviets. Not as an enemy, but as a brother in helping us all survive the apocalypse.
@xremming4 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video on why The Thomas Crown Affair is so good next? And why it has been completely completely forgotten.
@dwc19644 жыл бұрын
I only saw the original much later, and I have to say I enjoyed the remake more.
@pennyfarting4 жыл бұрын
The best thing about the original is Faye Dunaway's outfits
@jaapsch24 жыл бұрын
@@pennyfarting And the amazing split-screen heist scene. The effort that must have gone into that using just optical printing techniques is incredible.
@hgwells18994 жыл бұрын
One of the best uses of subtitles I've seen is in the Russian movie Night Watch. In that they are made a feature, by where and when they crash in, or bleed in, or dissolve like ink in water, with the method and style always appropriate to, adding to, the action or the atmosphere onscreen at that moment. Making the English speaking audience crave the next line as much as the next set piece. I've always thought that subtitles could be used to indicate tell-tale lines from a characters inner monologue. Instead of us hearing a secondary, echoey version of the characters voice - for example, in an awkward first date scene - we read his crushing self analysis with our own inner voice, a background narrator speaking thoughts we literally can hear only in our heads. Although I always switch subtitles off in games (who needs everything over explained and constantly restated like that?!) when it comes to the big screen I have no such issue. Because subtitles don't have to be a reason NOT to see a movie! Which, ironically, goes without saying
@EMWeiss2 жыл бұрын
Hit & Run, a Netflix show that takes place half in Tel Aviv and half in New York does some interesting things with language as well with some characters fluent in Hebrew, some that know a little, some that know none. It creates tons of tension and power dynamics.
@KasCalwein4 жыл бұрын
Gotta throw this in: My perfect subtitle experience as a German was my exchange year to North Carolina in 2009/2010. Back then in early 2010 I watched the American cut of Inglorious Basterds and given my then better knowledge of French I was the only one among my American friends to experience the movie in its full glory (apart from some french details and that short Italian scene at the movie theatre) without the need of barely any subtitles.
@StanNotSoSaint4 жыл бұрын
How was their German? Russian pronunciation in Hollywood movies sucks nearly every time.
@KasCalwein4 жыл бұрын
@@StanNotSoSaint They cast German/Austrian actors for the German roles and even made Michael Fassbenders English accent when speaking German a plot point, so it was spot on.
@austindrawhorn21414 жыл бұрын
New levels of appreciation for directors and films with each new video you post - GOOD WORK
@VoorDeFilm4 жыл бұрын
Flipping the pen in the middle of a sentence at 09:50 subliminally shows Patrick's talent.
@TPRJones4 жыл бұрын
I can't believe Charl predicted the whole Goya beans mess. That is one genius coconut.
@connquerer4 жыл бұрын
Patrick! I just rewatched this movie with family (thanks for the rec). I realized that even the opening title card was playing with language. The first word (red) is fully in Russian/Cyrillic (красный), whereas October is in a hybrid: ОКТIABR. The actual Russian translation would be Октябрь. So it took the “окт” from real translation and IABR to phonetically finish the Russian word with Latin/English letters, before they both switch to “Red October.” Just something fun I noticed. Not sure if someone already mentioned it in the comments.
@steinicult4 жыл бұрын
Antino Banderas picked up that "Icelandic" faster then i could have, and i'm Icelandic. Also i'm shocked by Charls actions this episode, he needs help.
@lyndonmurray9624 жыл бұрын
At 8 minutes in, you mention the translator switch. There is a very similar scene in Lost Season 1 Episode 9 (again roughly 8mins in). The camera zooms into Sayid Jarah's mouth and then pans across the POWs head and he begins to speak english.
@cobwebschannel4 жыл бұрын
It really cannot be overstated how phenomenal your videos have gotten during quarantine.
@andrewgaughen93104 жыл бұрын
I kinda love that the best use of transitioning from subtitles to English are BOTH McTiernan films! (BIG fan of THE 13TH WARRIOR) And, YES, we need to start the McTiernan-issance!
@HydraulicDesign4 жыл бұрын
There are not nearly enough KZfaq think-pieces on Hunt for Red October. Yay!
@matteociucci86904 жыл бұрын
A curiosity about the script apparently Sean Connery wasn't satisfied by his dialogue so he asked John Milius the writer of Apocalypse Now to rewrite them.
@darinfoat84104 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this video. But I have to say, I disagree with part of your interpretation of the scene where the two crews meet. When Ryan tells Ramius it’s wise to study the ways of your adversary, Ramius responds in English, indicating the he, too, speaks the language of his enemies. This is not another “magic” translation for our benefit. When Ramius surrenders the Red October and asks for asylum he addresses Mancuso directly, correctly noting that Mancuso is the senior American officer present. And Mancuso clearly understands Ramius. They speak and understand one another several times, most notably when they argue about Ramius’s order to turn into the torpedo. And again when Mancuso gives Ramius his pistol.
@JuanPabloBorderi4 жыл бұрын
I literally watched this movie just so i could get this video. A patrick's video is always a good recommendation
@samuelbarber61772 жыл бұрын
As someone currently learning several languages, I’ve actually found a new appreciation for films that do go as far as to have characters speaking natural dialects. For instance, in Tarantino’s Inglorious Basterds, which has almost two thirds of the cast speaking in French for much of the time, apart from a few scenes when characters speak in German, and the Americans speak almost exclusively English except for Aldo’s Italian. Funnily enough, the only other real linguist of the movie is the main villain, who speaks fluent English, French, German (I assume) and Italian.
@Aurich884 жыл бұрын
13th Warrior was one of like ten VHS movies I had as a kid, musta seen it a dozen times. My brother and I still quote the mentioned scene at each other sometimes. "Mi hrotes vants" "So comma diVESTA!" and of course "DoNOT forTELL meWIFE forAYE willget nosupper whenYAI comehyome toNIGHT." The rhythmic line delivery really stamps it in the brain.
@jratcliffe914 жыл бұрын
theres a quaver rest at the beginning of "the rugrats" theme.
@enzoist19 ай бұрын
The language learning process in The 13th Warrior was one of my favorite bits of filmmaking.
@Daniel.Anugerah4 жыл бұрын
Just putting this out there, I wrote my undergrad thesis on the Hunt for Red October
@BradyPostma4 жыл бұрын
Link?
@TheDivotking12 жыл бұрын
Link.pleasd
@billpeel44084 жыл бұрын
I actually really want to hear a full cover of Everybody Wants to Rule the World
@charlielove91404 жыл бұрын
In every one of these videos I stick around for the ad thinking Jake's politics corner is coming, yet you manage to fool me every single time
@longtermgains82537 ай бұрын
The Hunt for Red October was one of the few movies where the movie was better than the book! The fatherly figure dynamic that Connery's character had with both the Americans and the Russians was memorable.
@akmonra4 жыл бұрын
I love the way you're still bringing in Charl... and like to think of how confused newcomers must be coming to the channel.
@kettle_of_chris8 ай бұрын
I graduated High School in 1990...the optimism that was in the air at that time was palpable. Anything was possible. The thought of the U.S. and Russia working together on everything from foreign trade, to fighting international terrorism, was awe inspiring. Then there was the commercial possibilities with Russia itself given that Russia has almost every natural resource on earth and most were literally untapped! The vision of positive US / Russia relations was in H.D. Thinking back on it now, brings a few tears tbh because of what could have been. I'd love to see it again before I'm gone.
@Eden-xy7gk4 жыл бұрын
Another great example is Inglorious Basterds. The uses of subtitles and language in that movie are genius.
@BradyPostma4 жыл бұрын
13:35 - Yeah! Physical media forever! I'm with ya! There are dozens of us! Dozens!
@kevinmorice24 жыл бұрын
This is one of the greatest tricks in cinema. Absolutely love that you have done a video on this. It basically folds what could have been an average submarine film (K19, U-571 etc) into a cinema masterpiece on a single word and using a trick that everyone understands without requiring a clever explanation to the audience.
@TheJoelys864 жыл бұрын
*one of these days we'll get him talkin about about wood working.....and it'll be the finest episode of whatever this talk show is called" me😂🤣😭🤮😱⚰️
@tobigrantlbart4 жыл бұрын
I think it was cool how Tarantino handled subtitles in Kill Bill Volume 1, because if you don't turn on yourself, there are no subtitles. And you still understand what they're saying great movie
@Galgomite4 жыл бұрын
If this video weren't so complex and well articulated I'd speculate that it was made between 1am and 5am.
@rosebyanyname4 жыл бұрын
0/10, no mention of Tim Curry in probably his most mainstream role as the Soviet ship's doctor.
@yw19716 ай бұрын
It's not ONLY about reading subs (pun), It's about understanding the emotions BEHIND the words.
@GibusWearingMann4 жыл бұрын
That Michael Bay has two films in the Criterion Collection is still one of my favorite fun facts.
@tuomasvainionpaa83614 жыл бұрын
Funny how most of this moot when you live in Finland and 90% of media is subtitled and most stuff in Finnish are smaller productions of comedy/drama genres.
@MarkRichardson4 жыл бұрын
I'm kinda worried about Matt, clearly Charl should see how he's holding up.
@kimberlee96084 жыл бұрын
Patrick’s beard is mesmerizing and this format is suiting him better than I originally thought it would! He’s super professional with his filming and editing of his pre-covid vids but this “locked in” series shows his content can stand on its own! Great job Pat!
@spinakker144 жыл бұрын
Where's the bottle of Jameson, Patrick?! Don't you dare sipping wine
@keepperspective4 жыл бұрын
When my father showed me Red October, I was about eight years old and I remember being overwhelmed by the color, the sound effects and the score. But it was the last scenes bathed in half light when Jack starts communicating in Subtitles that always gave me the greatest feeling of triumph! I LOVE Red October and thank you for explaining why!
@JulietStMoon4 жыл бұрын
Lmao Patrick's beard is turning him into an American version of Simon from Today I Found Out. Also Patrick's parents are the sweetest and I hope they continue to appear in his videos even after quarantine.
@comixproviderftw_024 жыл бұрын
Oh god, he does.
@evanmcclellan72674 жыл бұрын
The Hunt for Red October was my favorite movie as a kid, and I'm over the moon to see it getting featured on this channel. Well done! I've gotta make one small correction as I re-situate my glasses upon the bridge of my nose. When they make the language switch the political officer is reading from the Bhagavad Gita, not Revelations. As Captain Ramius says in his very next line: "itsh an anshient Hindu text, quoted by an American." The American he's referring to is J Robert Oppenheimer, who was reflecting on his building a doomsday weapon. You can see the quote here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mtujkrBl2NSUj30.html
@dwc19644 жыл бұрын
... and the book he's not reading from is Revelation. well done with the Sean Connery transcription ;-)
@SonofSethoitae4 жыл бұрын
No, the "armageddon" quote is Revelation 16:15, it's the next quote "I am become death, the destroyer of worlds" that's from the Bhagavad Gita.
@evanmcclellan72674 жыл бұрын
@@SonofSethoitae Thank you, I stand corrected. The way the dialog plays out in the scene is a little misleading. Although I think it can be said that the political officer is reading a book that is quoting from both the Bible and the Bhagavad Gita.
@albertmartinez87214 жыл бұрын
@@evanmcclellan7267 I believe the book itself is the Bible, hence Revelations; the quote from the Bhagavad Gita was written in the margins. As Ramius states, the book belonged to his wife, who also inscribed the quote in the margin.
@BradyPostma4 жыл бұрын
It was a pretty great film. I like to compare it to Crimson Tide as an case study of the PG-13 film being better than the R film, to prove that can happen even when there's nothing fundamentally wrong with the R film.
@ArgieGrit4 жыл бұрын
I can't believe you missed such an easy joke at 6:21 "The Americans are speaking English (duh), and the Soviets speak Russian subtitled into English ( да)"
@movedmindpoRUSZonyUMYS4 жыл бұрын
Perfect. This is definitely the best covid time talk show.
@ernestolombardo58112 жыл бұрын
After having watched it recently, I was struck by how The Hunt For Red October is constructed like a Swiss watch. Every gear in place and doing what it's supposed to do. If you're paying attention, at every single point during the movie you know exactly where you are, what is happening and why, it is one of the best constructed films I have ever seen, that takes not a single lazy shortcut.
@tvtitanio30213 жыл бұрын
Made me realize Patrick is at Queens Gambit level of film study.
@kashhusain81544 жыл бұрын
I literally love everything about this video. Everything.
@JamesLawner4 жыл бұрын
McTiernan should direct a comic book movie. I HAVE SPOKEN! Also, RDJ's Dolittle movie literally does that camera zoom on mouth = translation trick too!
@videoslice26834 жыл бұрын
5:20 subtitles are actually super easy, barely an inconvenience
@roguedravidan27464 жыл бұрын
McTiernan pulled the switch-to-English trick in one of my most favorite but "underappreciated" movie The 13th Warrior. Of course, McTiernan had a fall out with the author Michael Crichton and got fired later. But when I saw the vikings do the switch-to-English while speaking in their native, I immediately knew that was by Mr.McTiernan himself.
@SaturnCanuck4 жыл бұрын
Excellent. I loved his early movies (to paraphrase Stardust Memories) but he did make some stickers too. Medicine Man, RollerBall. But, this movie is always one of my favourites.
@EJD3394 жыл бұрын
Man Patrick, I really underestimated how funny and creative you are. You’ve gotten a lot better at creative content along with movie analysis.
@TheATMOS5594 жыл бұрын
i love that the quality keeps getting better and better
@jba20484 жыл бұрын
Subtitles are incredibly important these days because for some reason in the last 20 years sound mixing in movies has become so horrible you either need to constantly turn the volume down during action scenes and turn the volume back up during dialogue scenes just to hear what people are saying; I don’t know why they mix the vocal tracks to be so much lower than all the other sounds and music but I just watch everything with subtitles now.
@StanNotSoSaint4 жыл бұрын
That's interesting - in Russia all official releases have voiceovers (with really rare exceptions). Those are done in a way that always makes lines sound loud and clear. So when one shifts from such VOs to original tracks, it's easy to notice how far less clear original voices are. It makes them sound more natural I guess, but at times they really do become incomprehensible sadly.
@theworkshopwhisperer.59025 ай бұрын
Another small detail hidden in the language is Sean Connery Scottish accent. Being a Lithuanian surrounded by Russians it's a small detail that reminds you how he's different from the larger group. Another film that handles subtitles really well is Isle of dogs.
@user-si3gu8pm6j2 жыл бұрын
“I’m a politician. That means I’m a cheat and a liar; when I’m not kissin’ babies I’m stealin’ their lollipops” 😂 This film is so dang quotable
@tfa88 ай бұрын
18:36 what McTiernan got wrong: the soviet sailor wouldn't hand over russian cigarettes in a western softpack and definitely not use an American Zippo lighter during the cold war in the '80s, anyway great analysis here for the language aspect that many overlook, thanks for doing this!
@sumerianwarlord4 жыл бұрын
I took a writing workshop from Larry Ferguson in college, and he told us the shift from subtitles to English was his idea. He said he stole if from some older movie and tricked McTiernan into thinking it was his own.
@sumerianwarlord4 жыл бұрын
I thought Ferguson was kind of a schlub when I met him, so I wouldn't be surprise if he was full of it.
@avdcam4 жыл бұрын
Finally, I thought I was the only one to recall the connection between the 13th Warrior and The Hunt for Red October via the use of subtitles and language, thank you Patrick, never change.
@danobrien99474 жыл бұрын
Phenomenal, pitch-perfect work as always! Thank you.
@BitcoinMotorist4 жыл бұрын
I read the novel. No subtitle shift in the novel :(
@indianajim8 ай бұрын
You know, all this McTiernan talk and I think we need a 13th Warrior essay.
@indycinema4 жыл бұрын
Jake and Keys is an American treasure.
@thatRyzzle3 жыл бұрын
Huh, I always assumed Ramius also spoke (a little) English, because being at war with the Americans for such a long time, it was advantageous to understand his enemies.
@florinivan69073 жыл бұрын
Technically they were never at war. They only prepared and stayed alert for it.
@trusarmor49574 жыл бұрын
why do i feel these should be half as long and come out twice as often
@lanegeorgeton8266 Жыл бұрын
Fun. As a learner of Russian in mid early nineties, it was fun watch ing this movie and others using the post fall as vehicles. Teirnen captured an interesting time and did it well.
@vaishakravi4 жыл бұрын
Hey man love the show! You are single handedly paying the Karmic debts owed to John McTiernan, great stuff. Just to put it out there Extraction was shot in India but it's based in Dhaka, Bangladesh and they're speaking a mix of English, Hindi and Bengali. Stay cool man