Patrick: *makes a video about subtitles* Me: This is RIVETING STUFF.

Remember when I said every video I make some dumb mistake that haunts me forever? Well in this video I got the location/language in Extraction wrong (it's Bangladesh/Bengali) and added an "s" onto Book of Revelation. Whoops.

When you here "...barely an inconvenience" and it sounds suddenly like a pitch meeting

"I should achieve a full Alan Moore." Not 2 minutes in. Here's your goddamn thumb up.

I really don't know what to make of Charl increasingly pushing his personal and frankly divisive agenda. Enabling and giving him a pass like "classic Charl" or the probably inevitable "it's just satire", "Coconuts will be coconuts", you name it, will only make it worse imo.

In Valkyrie the same thing happens early on in the movie. You first hear a bunch of germans swearing an Oath to Adolf Hitler which then leads into Tom Cruise writing a letter in german. As he's saying everything in german, you slowly hear the english translation fade in and the german fade out until the english remains. Probably not the same finesse as trading off on the word Armageddon, but it's still a cool effect.

5:15 "...barely an inconvenience" The moment 2 youtube channel universes collide. Which, of course, is TIGHT.

5:12 - On the “one-inch barrier”: This is something that I have mentioned when I used to work at Blockbuster (yes, I know that dates me). There’s so many films that I would try to recommend, but the fact that they were in subtitles instantly made people go “no, too much of an effort“. It was frustrating considering how so many great films come from other countries, as Americans are missing out on so many great movies.

I'm so goddamn invested in that Rugrats rant

Waiting on Last Action Hero - never gonna happen but I can hope LOL

"Extraction" is actually mostly set in Bangladesh, where they speak Bengali. The beginning is in India, where they speak Hindi. 2 different countries and languages

This channel is one of the few things that’s better with covid.

That's so funny I was just randomly thinking of 13th Warrior as you're explaining how a director can use language transition to bring the audience closer to the characters, and low and behold, it was the same director =0

"I've seen that film - it's a pretty good film" I feel personally attacked by this audience insert character.

Okay, was anyone going to tell me that John McTiernan went to jail for spying on his producer or was I supposed to hear about it as a footnote at the end of a Patrick H Willems video myself?

There's no word "Buckaroo" in Russian, though. I guess it's a name so you can argue this is why it's not translated. In any case, I guess it was meant to mean a generic "cowboy" coming from a Soviet Officer to classify the Americans aboard their Submarine. This word wouldn't really be used in this situation since I doubt anyone in Russia even knows what "Buckaroo" is (I didn't before I googled). Which kinds supports the subject Patrick is talking about even more. The word is used specifically to emphasize a forming connection. Unrelated, but, I recently finished watching "The Americans" TV show. Being Russian myself, I wondered what was the reason for me finding most of the Russian characters there more likable than the leads of the show, despite them also being Russian in the story. I guess now I understand why. The leads rarely spoke Russian and when they did it was with a terrible accent.

... I'd never put together the similar techniques used in Red October and in 13th Warrior. Damn, McTiernan is GOOD at this shit.

"other than being one of the two Michael Bay films in The Criterion Collection..."

Quick mention that director Bryan Singer and screenwriter Christopher McQuarrie worked out a similar ingenuity for the language barrier delimma in "Valkyrie" with Tom Cruise in the opening credits.

Alright, I'm usually a fan of charle and his antics. But he's gone too far this time - I'm really just disappointed that you would air such filth

That’s my secret, foreign films. I always watch with subtitles on.

Saw the first seven minutes of the video, paused it, downloaded the movie, watched it and came back for the rest of the video. The things I do for Patrick

You're one of the only KZfaq Channels that keeps me sane during all of this

I had the idea for this video like seven years ago, but couldn't think of an interesting way to discuss it, other than just showing the various movies that employ a "translation" gimmick. "Mars Needs Moms" is another one. Love that you used the original scripts to break down your thesis regarding audience alliances. Great work as usual, Patrick.

The political officer is named Putin! How am I just finding this out?

Patrick! As a person with English as my second language, I have always thought about this movie as the blueprint on how to make the perfect translation between languages in movies. You just made my point look good! Seriously, you are on fire!

"McTiernan Mania continues! ...and also concludes." That made me lmao.

Doesn't John Krasinki play Jack Ryan?

The majority of Extraction takes place in Bangladesh not India, and while some characters speak Hindi, the villains you referred to are generally speaking Bengali.

I have to say, when you brought out that PHYSICAL ORIGINAL COPY of the script, all I could do was loudly pronounce "now that is some fucking dedication!" You rock dude!

I always interpreted Ramius replying "It is." in English as him actually shifting to English for Jack Ryan's sake. It implies "You speak a little Russian. That's smart. I speak a little English." I would have to go back an rewatch the movie to see how that interpretation holds up, though.

You should consider doing a video about Mctiernan's other movie, the thirteenth warrior you'd do it well i'm sure

This is such a fantastic episode! Thank you for the movie lesson! I hope one day you can see John Krasinski as Jack Ryan came to see the Soviets. Not as an enemy, but as a brother in helping us all survive the apocalypse.

Can you make a video on why The Thomas Crown Affair is so good next? And why it has been completely completely forgotten.

One of the best uses of subtitles I've seen is in the Russian movie Night Watch. In that they are made a feature, by where and when they crash in, or bleed in, or dissolve like ink in water, with the method and style always appropriate to, adding to, the action or the atmosphere onscreen at that moment. Making the English speaking audience crave the next line as much as the next set piece. I've always thought that subtitles could be used to indicate tell-tale lines from a characters inner monologue. Instead of us hearing a secondary, echoey version of the characters voice - for example, in an awkward first date scene - we read his crushing self analysis with our own inner voice, a background narrator speaking thoughts we literally can hear only in our heads. Although I always switch subtitles off in games (who needs everything over explained and constantly restated like that?!) when it comes to the big screen I have no such issue. Because subtitles don't have to be a reason NOT to see a movie! Which, ironically, goes without saying

Hit & Run, a Netflix show that takes place half in Tel Aviv and half in New York does some interesting things with language as well with some characters fluent in Hebrew, some that know a little, some that know none. It creates tons of tension and power dynamics.

Gotta throw this in: My perfect subtitle experience as a German was my exchange year to North Carolina in 2009/2010. Back then in early 2010 I watched the American cut of Inglorious Basterds and given my then better knowledge of French I was the only one among my American friends to experience the movie in its full glory (apart from some french details and that short Italian scene at the movie theatre) without the need of barely any subtitles.

New levels of appreciation for directors and films with each new video you post - GOOD WORK

Flipping the pen in the middle of a sentence at 09:50 subliminally shows Patrick's talent.

I can't believe Charl predicted the whole Goya beans mess. That is one genius coconut.

Patrick! I just rewatched this movie with family (thanks for the rec). I realized that even the opening title card was playing with language. The first word (red) is fully in Russian/Cyrillic (красный), whereas October is in a hybrid: ОКТIABR. The actual Russian translation would be Октябрь. So it took the “окт” from real translation and IABR to phonetically finish the Russian word with Latin/English letters, before they both switch to “Red October.” Just something fun I noticed. Not sure if someone already mentioned it in the comments.

Antino Banderas picked up that "Icelandic" faster then i could have, and i'm Icelandic. Also i'm shocked by Charls actions this episode, he needs help.

At 8 minutes in, you mention the translator switch. There is a very similar scene in Lost Season 1 Episode 9 (again roughly 8mins in). The camera zooms into Sayid Jarah's mouth and then pans across the POWs head and he begins to speak english.

It really cannot be overstated how phenomenal your videos have gotten during quarantine.

I kinda love that the best use of transitioning from subtitles to English are BOTH McTiernan films! (BIG fan of THE 13TH WARRIOR) And, YES, we need to start the McTiernan-issance!

There are not nearly enough KZfaq think-pieces on Hunt for Red October. Yay!

A curiosity about the script apparently Sean Connery wasn't satisfied by his dialogue so he asked John Milius the writer of Apocalypse Now to rewrite them.

I enjoyed this video. But I have to say, I disagree with part of your interpretation of the scene where the two crews meet. When Ryan tells Ramius it’s wise to study the ways of your adversary, Ramius responds in English, indicating the he, too, speaks the language of his enemies. This is not another “magic” translation for our benefit. When Ramius surrenders the Red October and asks for asylum he addresses Mancuso directly, correctly noting that Mancuso is the senior American officer present. And Mancuso clearly understands Ramius. They speak and understand one another several times, most notably when they argue about Ramius’s order to turn into the torpedo. And again when Mancuso gives Ramius his pistol.

I literally watched this movie just so i could get this video. A patrick's video is always a good recommendation

As someone currently learning several languages, I’ve actually found a new appreciation for films that do go as far as to have characters speaking natural dialects. For instance, in Tarantino’s Inglorious Basterds, which has almost two thirds of the cast speaking in French for much of the time, apart from a few scenes when characters speak in German, and the Americans speak almost exclusively English except for Aldo’s Italian. Funnily enough, the only other real linguist of the movie is the main villain, who speaks fluent English, French, German (I assume) and Italian.

13th Warrior was one of like ten VHS movies I had as a kid, musta seen it a dozen times. My brother and I still quote the mentioned scene at each other sometimes. "Mi hrotes vants" "So comma diVESTA!" and of course "DoNOT forTELL meWIFE forAYE willget nosupper whenYAI comehyome toNIGHT." The rhythmic line delivery really stamps it in the brain.

theres a quaver rest at the beginning of "the rugrats" theme.

The language learning process in The 13th Warrior was one of my favorite bits of filmmaking.

Just putting this out there, I wrote my undergrad thesis on the Hunt for Red October

I actually really want to hear a full cover of Everybody Wants to Rule the World

In every one of these videos I stick around for the ad thinking Jake's politics corner is coming, yet you manage to fool me every single time

The Hunt for Red October was one of the few movies where the movie was better than the book! The fatherly figure dynamic that Connery's character had with both the Americans and the Russians was memorable.

I love the way you're still bringing in Charl... and like to think of how confused newcomers must be coming to the channel.

I graduated High School in 1990...the optimism that was in the air at that time was palpable. Anything was possible. The thought of the U.S. and Russia working together on everything from foreign trade, to fighting international terrorism, was awe inspiring. Then there was the commercial possibilities with Russia itself given that Russia has almost every natural resource on earth and most were literally untapped! The vision of positive US / Russia relations was in H.D. Thinking back on it now, brings a few tears tbh because of what could have been. I'd love to see it again before I'm gone.

Another great example is Inglorious Basterds. The uses of subtitles and language in that movie are genius.

13:35 - Yeah! Physical media forever! I'm with ya! There are dozens of us! Dozens!

This is one of the greatest tricks in cinema. Absolutely love that you have done a video on this. It basically folds what could have been an average submarine film (K19, U-571 etc) into a cinema masterpiece on a single word and using a trick that everyone understands without requiring a clever explanation to the audience.

*one of these days we'll get him talkin about about wood working.....and it'll be the finest episode of whatever this talk show is called" me😂🤣😭🤮😱⚰️

I think it was cool how Tarantino handled subtitles in Kill Bill Volume 1, because if you don't turn on yourself, there are no subtitles. And you still understand what they're saying great movie

If this video weren't so complex and well articulated I'd speculate that it was made between 1am and 5am.

0/10, no mention of Tim Curry in probably his most mainstream role as the Soviet ship's doctor.

It's not ONLY about reading subs (pun), It's about understanding the emotions BEHIND the words.

That Michael Bay has two films in the Criterion Collection is still one of my favorite fun facts.

Funny how most of this moot when you live in Finland and 90% of media is subtitled and most stuff in Finnish are smaller productions of comedy/drama genres.

I'm kinda worried about Matt, clearly Charl should see how he's holding up.

Patrick’s beard is mesmerizing and this format is suiting him better than I originally thought it would! He’s super professional with his filming and editing of his pre-covid vids but this “locked in” series shows his content can stand on its own! Great job Pat!

Where's the bottle of Jameson, Patrick?! Don't you dare sipping wine

When my father showed me Red October, I was about eight years old and I remember being overwhelmed by the color, the sound effects and the score. But it was the last scenes bathed in half light when Jack starts communicating in Subtitles that always gave me the greatest feeling of triumph! I LOVE Red October and thank you for explaining why!

Lmao Patrick's beard is turning him into an American version of Simon from Today I Found Out. Also Patrick's parents are the sweetest and I hope they continue to appear in his videos even after quarantine.

The Hunt for Red October was my favorite movie as a kid, and I'm over the moon to see it getting featured on this channel. Well done! I've gotta make one small correction as I re-situate my glasses upon the bridge of my nose. When they make the language switch the political officer is reading from the Bhagavad Gita, not Revelations. As Captain Ramius says in his very next line: "itsh an anshient Hindu text, quoted by an American." The American he's referring to is J Robert Oppenheimer, who was reflecting on his building a doomsday weapon. You can see the quote here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mtujkrBl2NSUj30.html

I can't believe you missed such an easy joke at 6:21 "The Americans are speaking English (duh), and the Soviets speak Russian subtitled into English ( да)"

Perfect. This is definitely the best covid time talk show.

After having watched it recently, I was struck by how The Hunt For Red October is constructed like a Swiss watch. Every gear in place and doing what it's supposed to do. If you're paying attention, at every single point during the movie you know exactly where you are, what is happening and why, it is one of the best constructed films I have ever seen, that takes not a single lazy shortcut.

Made me realize Patrick is at Queens Gambit level of film study.

I literally love everything about this video. Everything.

McTiernan should direct a comic book movie. I HAVE SPOKEN! Also, RDJ's Dolittle movie literally does that camera zoom on mouth = translation trick too!

5:20 subtitles are actually super easy, barely an inconvenience

McTiernan pulled the switch-to-English trick in one of my most favorite but "underappreciated" movie The 13th Warrior. Of course, McTiernan had a fall out with the author Michael Crichton and got fired later. But when I saw the vikings do the switch-to-English while speaking in their native, I immediately knew that was by Mr.McTiernan himself.

Excellent. I loved his early movies (to paraphrase Stardust Memories) but he did make some stickers too. Medicine Man, RollerBall. But, this movie is always one of my favourites.

Man Patrick, I really underestimated how funny and creative you are. You’ve gotten a lot better at creative content along with movie analysis.

i love that the quality keeps getting better and better

Subtitles are incredibly important these days because for some reason in the last 20 years sound mixing in movies has become so horrible you either need to constantly turn the volume down during action scenes and turn the volume back up during dialogue scenes just to hear what people are saying; I don’t know why they mix the vocal tracks to be so much lower than all the other sounds and music but I just watch everything with subtitles now.

Another small detail hidden in the language is Sean Connery Scottish accent. Being a Lithuanian surrounded by Russians it's a small detail that reminds you how he's different from the larger group. Another film that handles subtitles really well is Isle of dogs.

“I’m a politician. That means I’m a cheat and a liar; when I’m not kissin’ babies I’m stealin’ their lollipops” 😂 This film is so dang quotable

18:36 what McTiernan got wrong: the soviet sailor wouldn't hand over russian cigarettes in a western softpack and definitely not use an American Zippo lighter during the cold war in the '80s, anyway great analysis here for the language aspect that many overlook, thanks for doing this!

I took a writing workshop from Larry Ferguson in college, and he told us the shift from subtitles to English was his idea. He said he stole if from some older movie and tricked McTiernan into thinking it was his own.

Finally, I thought I was the only one to recall the connection between the 13th Warrior and The Hunt for Red October via the use of subtitles and language, thank you Patrick, never change.

Phenomenal, pitch-perfect work as always! Thank you.

I read the novel. No subtitle shift in the novel :(

You know, all this McTiernan talk and I think we need a 13th Warrior essay.

Jake and Keys is an American treasure.

Huh, I always assumed Ramius also spoke (a little) English, because being at war with the Americans for such a long time, it was advantageous to understand his enemies.

why do i feel these should be half as long and come out twice as often

Fun. As a learner of Russian in mid early nineties, it was fun watch ing this movie and others using the post fall as vehicles. Teirnen captured an interesting time and did it well.

Hey man love the show! You are single handedly paying the Karmic debts owed to John McTiernan, great stuff. Just to put it out there Extraction was shot in India but it's based in Dhaka, Bangladesh and they're speaking a mix of English, Hindi and Bengali. Stay cool man