At my table we go a little deeper than this. If you are concentrating on Detect Magic, and you use your action to watch a specific caster's aura, then you will be able to see them casting a spell even without verbal or somatic components, just by seeing how their aura changes! This interpretation of the rule lets you counterspell a subtle spell, but only with considerable preparation and sacrifice. Another common way to avoid being counterspelled is to stand 65 feet away. Funnily enough, distant spell metamagic negates this too. Making Sorcerer the best at both casting counterspell and avoiding counterspell!

@@saltypork101 nice table rule, deep thinking.

@@samuelbroad11 Ty :)

nice

If you already have the cantrip Mage Hand then when you take the Telekinetic feat your Mage Hand has a range of 60 feet, pair this with the Metamagic Distant spell and you get a 120 foot range Mage Hand.

​ @arcanerecovery2567 That's a very good point. This would increase the synergy with Major Image even further. Do you think this makes Distant Spell the best pick alongside Subtle Spell, over known powerhouse metamagic options like Twinned Spell? I've also thought more about the possible uses of Expertise on this build since leaving this comment, and I think Sleight of Hand is much better than Intimidation here. High Cha and basic proficiency is probably enough investment in Intimidation, and Sleight of Hand is really going to go hard on this build in some very fun ways. I think for level order, we go Sorcerer 5, then Rogue 3, and then back to Sorcerer. But I think in a lower level game you could easily justify jumping out of Sorcerer at 3 for those 3 levels of Rogue.@@arcanerecovery2567

i wanna hear more about this Yu gi Oh inspired Character

​@@GentleBreeze-72 They were a changeling I would turn into people and use Disguise Self if I couldn't get the clothes I needed. My main summon was summon undead and animate dead that I would get from spirit session. I would use them while casting minor illusion to make them think I was near by while I would hide. My trap card was silvery barbs and other cc spells like hypnotic pattern. Tales from beyond was a set of equip, spell and trap card depending on the roll. When I got a equip card I would put it on my summon or ally to make it tanking and if it died I would make a phantasmal force clone to replace it the so they thought it rose back from the dead. It has been really fun to play so far and has and I really like the randomness from tale from the beyond it made me feel like I was drawing from a real card deck where I could get good and bad draws and it really fit imo.

@@justink4051 that's really cool👀

Step 1) high elf, cantrip with an attack roll Step 2) rogue 3-4 Step 3) any sort of caster, X Step 4) Elven Accuracy So whenever you have advantage you have double advantage, and you can take steady aim every turn while mounted and your mount moves instead. Paladins have good synergies with mounted combat if their mount is their summoned steed, although they lean towards melee combat.

It takes 3 levels but pact of tome warlock can pick up charisma shillelagh.

@@nathans.3618 for some reason my brain hadn't been thinking of Magic Initiate as a way for Clerics to pick up Shillelagh. I guess it isn't a complete waste in that it would also partially turn on the Goodberry Life Domain combination, so instead of grabbing Goodberry off Quandrix or Witherbloom Student, you could take Mage of High Sorcery and go Nuitari to get Hex - then you'd get another Druid cantrip - Frostbite? - and one of the other Nuitari first level spells - Dissonant Whispers? - and maybe go Adept of the Black Robes at after War Caster - but it would mean that you wouldn't do the quarterstaff spin until L4, wouldn't be able to get up to Wisdom 18 coming out of the gates, and your bonus action would be pretty heavily occupied. First turn Hex, Frostbite, second turn Shillelagh, either Frostbite again or attack with quarterstaff, and only by third turn would you be spinning your quarterstaff on your action and bonus action for D8+D6+3. edit - correction, it would have to be Produce Flame, since Hex only applies to hits, and Produce Flame is the only cantrip that does a to hit roll rather than facing a save on both lists.

shillelagh plus nunchuks, bringing the ancient Irish and Japanese together like nothing else!

Also make them a halfling with lucky & bountiful luck

It's always fun to create illusory spell effects of spells that you can actually cast. Always keep em guessing!

by late tiers you can just lightning bolt them!

yeah, physically interacting breaks them: attack it and they know. But a commentator above mentioned displacer beasts which is a cool idea, maybe ghosts and shadows too.

I mean it's literally an invocation, which anyone can take to the feats in Tasha's.