I think the best way to realize why the necrons are humanities greatest ally is that quote from the infinite and the divine where trazyn says "Weak, frail, of short lifespans and dangerously advanced technology, don't they remind you of something orikan?" the necrons know exactly how it feels to be human

Soulless mechanical beings having more respect and even little bite of humanity then the pointed stuck up space elves.

Necrons also are, ironically, the most "human" xenos out there. They genuinely feel like an ancient human culture.

I think an alliance with the Necrons would be really interesting but the one I'd like to see most is a team up with Farsight.

Trazyn's Cadia moment, atop the Dante thing, set a narrative tempo for the Necrons as being far more amiable than the dying race which birthed a chaos god. ...and comedies like the infinite & Divine, semi-humanizing these metal maniacs over their multi-millennia trolling sprees.

I vote necrons for sure

using the humans as shields is probably necessary from szarekh's perspective as every time he cant completely obliterate a tendril of the hive fleet, it sends a bit more info back to the hivemind about necrons. his greatest fear is probably the fleet creating an effective anti-necron form that resists molecular attacks through some fusion of sorcery and evolution. such a tyranid would be almost invincible to everyone who isnt capable of orokin or mephisto levels of power, or is a strong enough blank. tyranids adapting to kill humans is bad, tyranids adapting to kill necrons is far worse

Collin of Pancreasnowork would support Yvraine.

So, a list of counter-arguments regarding the Necrons : -Trazyn being the reliable ally of Spire is put into perspective by the Necron side of the story. Trazyn effectively forced Amarkun (the Phaeron of the Nepheru) into defending his unactivated World Engine against Spire's assault, presumably because either outcome would benefit him. It's not Trazyn being a good ally, it's him trolling two people into ruining eachother day. (Granted, the narrative could change since, in the Imperium campaign, Amarkun is already dead, but it's Trazyn...he pulled a prank on Orikan once and created an Exterminatus because of it, he's anything but reliable). -Whilst Trazyn, Anrakyr and Szarekh have shown a modicum of respect toward Humanity , the vast majority of them do think Humans are slave-material at best and unworthy trashes at worst, because the Bio-transfert turned their previous megalomania to obsessive levels. And that's not counting those Necrons with genuine reasons to think the Imperium should crumble, as a revenge act for the destruction of Tomb Worlds. -Currently, Szarekh's plan against the Tyranids and Chaos is to build various "Nexuses" around the galaxy, where Noctilith technology basically block the Warp to the point that Humans "lose their souls" and die of inactivity. The Pariah Nexus is the most exposed one, but Psychic Awakening confirmed Szarekh had more built and he apparently plans to harvest the humans locked in it to see if they can be used to reverse the Bio-Transfert. Like, don't get me wrong, I agree with the vast majority of your points and I'm not even here to defend the Aeldari (it's not like there were much to defend anyway), but the idea that the Necrons are potential allies for the Imperium and not another major threats like Chaos, the Orks or the Tyranids is completely invalid now that Szarekh is fully active. I do not know if it's GW's writers forgetting what Szarekh did and say in "Words of the Silent King" or if there's yet unrevealed character traits between that short story and Pariah Nexus, but it's fair to say the Imperium has no hope for allies in this situation.

I think it's unfair to discount the eldar seeing as to how much they helped the return of guilleman, and his return to terra. That wasn't just Ynnari but also the laughing god's intervention and unlike tzeenitch he doesn't just do shit to 'do it' He's been screwing over slannesh with a fraction of her power and she can't even really handle them. Their death god and Khaine may be failures but it's likely they might be used or even fused to unite what little of the eldari there is. Not to mention the Eldari tried to prevent a decent amount of the Horus heresy, save their attack on Angron which cause the entire problem with angron, they were also being lured by the Eldari into conflict with xenos that would have otherwise remained hidden and became a huge problem for the imperium... So yea are the Eldari always trying to make sure they come out on top of each deal --Yes.... but that's what an Ally is and does they are not your slave or nation they got their own shit to worry about.

The tua have this problem where they are the most two faced faction to ally with and you can plainly see it in the Cain novels but I like the idea that the necrons will soon have to face a Tyranid force that can eat metal and pose a larger threat to them

I would like Craftworld Iyanden to take action. The Eldar of Iyanden have had open diplomacy with the Imperium, no interest in taking territory from them like the Tau, or wiping them out like some of the more xenophobic Craftworlds. They also absolutely despise the Tyranids and almost certainly see the Imperium as the only force that could face them and win, so the Craftworld would give support.

Eldar is the most reliable ally of the imperium. Both have work multiple times in the past, both knows the strength of each other, both knows not to trust each other and both knows when to backstab each other

Reminder that Trazyn and the Necrons were the biggest allies during the 13th Black Crusade

I dont think sanguinius actually met the silent king I think the silent king just admired and observed him from afar

As a massive Necron player/fan. Seeing a Silent King and Robute Guilliman alliance would make me so happy. Also as a side note. The best way I can describe the differences between the Eldar and the Necrons on the pretext that they both fill in that “Old but Powerful” trope. Is that the Eldar seem like that one guy whom tries really hard to come off as rich and successful but is actually one paycheck away from being broke. While the Necrons feel like someone whom comes from old money and genuinely knows their stuff.

It's not related to the Fourth Tyrannic War, but I could see Ghazghkull allying with the Steel Legion to hunt down Angron

I don’t think they’re gonna do anything in the grand scale of things, but Iyanden getting some revenge on the tyranids in a smaller scale battle could be neat

I honestly am sick of this franchise with how it's done the Eldar. Like what is even the point

Given the direction Leviathan is coming from, we may also see more interactions/activity from the Q'orl. They are no friends of humanity, but there could be some interesting temporary alliances.

For Xenos it depends on how the story plays out. If it is a last stand, no Tyranid crosses this line then yes the Necrons. But the story could just as much go in another way, as what if the Shadow in the Warp makes warp travel to hard to do so the Webway is needed. Guilliman has as many Inquisitors to find something they can make a deal for the Eldar use and guide of it. Of course not every Eldar will like this from all walks of life, so still combat can/will happen, but they are allies in more of a resource sharing sense. Another possibility is humanity's best ally is itself. It is in 2 main factions the Imperium and Chaos. "Let's celebrate what unites us all, Xenophobia". Have a story where the Thousand Sons and/or Red Corsairs save some Imperium ships from a sneak attack. Redo the whole Imperial Fists/Iron Warriors team up from the War of the Beast.

The T’au aligned humans do kinda have a way of warding off Chaos influence through the goddess of the greater good that was inadvertently created through their power of belief, though she’s basically a sapling compared to the old oak Emperor.

Dang I hope Kryptman is informed. He's basically Dr. Tyranid. Or is he still busy with Octarius 😅🤣

I feel the T’au would be the best ally in that the Imperium could still squish them once a Nid threat is (hopefully) dealt with. The Necrons would prove a great ally only as long as it served their interest, and facing a fully awakened Necron xenos would be like jumping out of the pan and into the fire for the Imperium

Considering there's THREE entire fucking tyranid tendrils barreling straight to earth two of which are leviathan, the imperium really needs to suck it up as ask for help from anyone they can. Eldar, Votan, Tau, hell even the quarantined tomb worlds in segmentum Solar

Barely 1:42 seconds in but I'd bet it's the eldar because for the most part they've helped the imperium a fair bit with the resurrection of Bobby G and to my knowledge a fair bit of inqusitors associate with them. Edit:I see your point with the necrons and you have won me over but i think it's fair enough to mention to my knowledge the eldar has helped the imperium more than many others but in the defence of the tua and necrons they have been around long enough to help as much as the eldar have. And Also YES FUCK THE XENOS! Praise be to the god emporer!

It’d be interesting if the lion and farsight made some sort of alliance

friendship is magic and magic is heresy!

Your content is excellent quality and I have no doubt you will continue to have steady viewer growth, keep up the great content.

I mostly agree what you say, but I think we yet to see what the space dwarves can bring to the table (if we going to get any books or stories with them). And I think that new god of 'Greater good' might yet become descent protection against chaos. If writers will not drop that idea as they did with eldars magic swords.

This video was... I'm tired today

I enjoy your videos, keep up the great work!

In older lore, it's implied that the Necrons meddled with the genetics of earth species long ago. Psychic blanks were the result of Necrons manipulation. They had a unit called Pariahs which were made from human blanks.

There is only the Eldar, all others cook their own soup

Necrons are indeed Humanity's best chance of an ally. That's really all I have to say on the matter. The Aeldari, Ynnari and the rest of the knife ears are too busy being treacherous little sweat goblins, meanwhile the Tau have the situational awareness of Hellen Keller on a good day. The Necrons recognise that the Tyranids are overall, on par with Chaos for galaxy ending crisis. However the Tyranids more-so are a threat to one of the secondary goals of the Necrons, reversing their bio-transference. Due in part to the fact that if the galaxy doesn't have organics in it for them to try an draw specimens from for experimentation in that, they cannot even possibly hope to begin those experiments.

The Necrons are definitely the best option. The tau are a insignificant force on a galactic scale. Well the eldar are in a similar position, with the addition of being incapable of holding any agreement for longer than 10 minutes. With Necrons assuming that they bother to talk to humans, there generally pretty good for there word. That trust makes them alot more appealing as a ally

Personally I think it'd be the Harlequins, Votann leagues, a select few craftworlds AKA Ulthwe and Iyanden and the Silent king's faction amongst the Necrons. I am saying this purely for strategy which is different than what would actually happen if you want to make a story The Votann would in some manner see the Imperium at least as related to them and you know act like them meaning there's a far lesser cultural and straight up "our brains work differently" barrier than with the Eldar for example and in addition they focus largely on making good supply chains for entire planets they straight up crack and mine out of existence, all their tech is related to that of the Imperium but just better so there's less to learn about the weaponry used by the Votann in an ally situation, even with them in the galactic core they, as traders, would be exceedingly good at keeping up an actual supply chain The Harlequins is in it's entirety about the fact Cegorach would tell them to not be fucking morons. Isha the other Eldar god is just straight up benevolent by helping ANY race via telling them how to deal with Nurgle's plague and it's highly likely Cegorach is in some manner similar to her in mindset and attitude just... clowner in addition he would be most likely to force his followers to be less fucking arrogant for one his followers and they already seem to partially act more like the necrons with their thoughts and expression of superiority and secondly Cegorach in Eldar legend straight up tried to give the Eldar humility as a gift (not enough of it as we can see but still). He's likely to be closer to the silent king in mindset and attitude BUT just straight up more benevolent as the Eldar see and worship him likely as benevolent in his own way. Ulthwe I say WOULD work is because of Eldrad's entire philosophy on humanity and how humanity and the Eldar's fates are glued together AND with his former friendship with the Big E he's also likely to tell people he has influence over to not be as arrogant. Iyanden because we've just straight up seen them not be arrogant when we have the small short story of the Grey Knights giving them soulstones and have at least cordial relations with the Imperium as a whole as a regular ass human could STEAL ONE OF THEIR BIKES and they had AN EMBASSY FOR AN INQUISITOR on their craftworld. They already seemingly have similar or most likely better relationship than the T'au have with the Imperium You already went over the Silent King but I must specify HIM specifically since there's also Imotekh who's his own can of worms

Really enjoyed this analysis! Can’t for your Tau videos!!

''we respect their dead even if we do not mourne them''....thats cold....fitting

After having read both The Twice Dead King and The Infinite & The Divine, I'm fully convinced the Necrons are the only actual heroes of the 40k universe, which says a lot about the 40k universe if the Necrons are the heroes... Yeah, the Imperium kinda needs the Necrons right about now. Not a single thing is going their way, and quite a few of the 'Crons have a few key assets that would really swing things Humanity's way in this upcoming war.

Eventually the Imperium may have to choose between the Eldar and the Necrons as the Tyranid threat becomes unmanageable but the Ynnari get stronger and the Necrons more fully awaken. Then a split could emerge between a Gulliman pro-Eldar faction and a Dante pro-Necron faction. Don't forget, the Eldar and the Necrons are ancient blood enemies from the War of the Gods.

Chaos. They make Humans the scariest thing.

"Back room deals." SO that's what Guilliman and Yvraine call their fun times.

There’s also the fact that the necrons need the fleshy factions alive so they can become mortal again, and they can’t do that because the nids are eating them all, so I think it would be alliance between them

That Tau goddess can't be retconned out of the lore soon enough.

Never seen your channel before but I love this first impression. It’s so rare to see anyone outright state that the imperium is necessary to humanity’s survival. I think people can’t see past “imperium bad”, and don’t realise that part of the horror and grimdark is that, in a setting as violent and brutal as 40k’s galaxy, only a culture that abandons compassion could truly stand against all threats without any other esoteric tools of war, such as mechanical immortality or mastery of the warp. I will, however, go to bat for the Kin, at least a little, as a fanboy often must. While I lament their lack of integration into the story so far (and am overjoyed to hear the rumours you mention about a novel, as I hadn’t heard them before), we do have some information about them to go on in terms of how they could contribute. For one, we’ve heard that the kin actually had a presence in the segmentum, mining worlds that were abandoned as the oncoming swarm approached. They clearly have enough presence across the galaxy to be able to at least reach the conflict. But moreso, the Kin have been known to work as mercenaries for any who can provide a tempting enough payment. They’ve worked with the imperium plenty enough, trading with them and hiring on as mercenaries. They definitely could be convinced to join the Tyrannic war, if offered a prize tempting enough. But we also know the Kin are so ballsy and industrious that they have followed around hive fleet tendrils, launching frequent small raids, in order to acquire biomass to use in scientific pursuits and as raw material for their cloning crucibles. They respect the tyranids, but they are not above taking them on for the sake of it. Now, this video is about “who’s the best ally”, and so we can’t really say for sure with the Votann, just because they’re so knew and unproven, so I can understand why you wouldn’t put them at number one. But I would be shocked if they don’t make some showing in the conflict, and most likely as a party nuetral to the imperium.

The biggest Ork Waaagh will come when the devourers make it clear they are the better fight

Having some necrons effectively join the Imperium and seek to become human would be outstanding.

I think it could be cool if the alpha legion and iron warriors, kind of become a neutral faction because of the space cockroaches, not loyalist, but not exactly chaos because of it, and maybe have the return of another primark as well

The Necrons are just Space Tomb Kings. In Total Warhammer, the usual diplomatic penalty you get from being too powerful is flipped on the Tomb Kings, who are in awe of your mighty empire and thus see you as equals, turning their usual contempt for lesser Empires into a diplomacy bonus. Making them one of the few factions you can count on to not break away from you in the end game.

Well I met this nice family that told me about some star gods, by the sounds of things I think they could make some pretty good ally’s for humanity.

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Necrons are the superior race to ally with Humanity. And them allying with the Imperium is basicallya grandpa with a 12g Shotgun helping a child with a airsoft gun fight off a bunch of wild animals to keep them off their lawn. They are superior, but are will to help others when it aids their goals. And them actually respecting humans, by name as well, shows how superior they are to everyone else, but also how honorable they are to those they actually consider allies. More Necron Human Alliances! That needs to happen! Both Chaos and the Tyranids would be screwed by the ultimate alliance between the true strongest factions in 40k.

I do not mind eldar getting the sharp end of the stick, honestly I would like to see a little xeno co-operation with any faction I'd like to see the reaction across the imperium

Judging from nuggets in Necron lore from the Infinite and the Divine, other stories, previous codex editions/video games and the Void Dragon... I think the GW is planning on refreshing the Pariah models and the future lore. Some Necrons desire to reverse the bio transference and the blight of the Flayer Curse seems to give them some reasoning for 'harvesting' Humanity as the C'tan set in place eons ago. The Pariah Nexus show trailer with Illuminor Szeras seemed to tease that he is up to his own shenanigans on par with Trazyn and Orikan.

The alliance between the tau and the imperium against the nids already happened in a ciaphas cain book

In a campaign I'm currently part of, my custom Chapter and Necron dynasty have made a non aggressive pact to deal with the bug problem

I think if Ghazghkull would ever grow into becoming a prime ork, some sort of alliance could be made with the orks.

That script delivered by the necrons on them wearing these trinkets to honour their dead even when they do not mourn their losses was brilliantly sculpted. Necrons are a very interesting race, some dynasties behave very differently than others, and when they have been given their "minds" or personality back they really change because their motives are still unknown. They are not a big as threat to the imperium as Orks, chaos, Tyranids, and other malign races. Even though Necrons are truly deadly. Them forming an alliance with humans and assisting survival of humanity, though with selfish goals in mind, does lend them a certain credibility. And Necrons would find they share a lot with the Mechanicus. Necron or necrontyr returned in mind and spirit whilst still in bodies of living metal, could become a great ally to the Imperium at the most desperate times. There is this AUDIObook with GREAT voice acting and sound effects that has a necron lord trapped by Ahriman, The dialogue for him with those voice effects were masterful, "We conquered the stars and broke mortality, our wars burned reality and the dominion of our kings is without limit."

It is ironic how humanity's realiable ally is the acient tin cans.

Tau are lucky because they have a tiny warp footprint and the chaos gods don't pay so much attention to them. Humans have a much bigger warp impact and thus are bothered far more by chaos.

The necrons where alive during their peak. They know they are confident in themselves as they remember being in top. The elder almost none of them where around during their peak. They have confidence issues cuz they know they where number one but now see not as powerful as races their ancestors thought as primitives. I think that’s a great point you mentioned about the difference between Necrons and elder in their views of superiority

Love these lore theory videos. Give us more

That was a Necon playing the Banjo

I mean. Necrons only make sense against Tyrannids. Tomb Wolrds are void of life, Necrons are metal, any Tyrannid offensive against Necrons is a net-loss of biomass for the hive fleet. I think there is no greater advantage a faction can have against the Devourer.

I love your channel man but might I suggest that Fiver is an excellent source for voice actors willing to do small monologues and would’ve been perfect for your necron dub

Tau, as much as i love and main them, are too small and lack ftl, as you mentioned, although giving them control over a section of the imperium to then take it back once stabilized the situation could work in the imperiums favor, granted that they can ever stabilize it, and they cant, so necrons are indeed the best ally as things stand

just from the headline, I asked myself that question while getting some water. I came to the same conclusion, from other bits of lore and thinking. 1st one entire faction in the Human Imperium is basically Necron Light (Although don't let the Adeptus Mechanicus hear that). 2nd Necron stand for Order. Something that the Imperium tries very hard to achieve. While Tau and Eldar are basically on the side of Order, they are too chaotic to really be Allied properly to it. 3rd Squats... I mean Leagues of Votann, while being Standards of Order, and basically being Human descended. They are weak and ineffective at this point in history. (Glad they are back with better lore than just "Space Dwarf") 4th Orcs you can bait them to be useful, but they aren't even allied to themselves. 5th... by the year 50k (if humans don't succumb to chaos, or are eaten by Nyds.) Necrons might find a way to control the Imperium, as Humans are very much like Necrontyr, and because of this Necrons might one day decide Humans are worth being a part of their empire. ((Note not much is know about the Necrontyr, but the few clues about them, and because the Old Ones died out 65 million years ago, means Humanity is not one of their creations, but we might be a creation of the Silent King. As to the Fan theory of the Tau being creations of the Silent King, the evidence actually disproves it rather quickly when you look closely. ))

I, as a Tyranid supporter, gladly accept any and all who give biomass for the Great Devourer and it’s conquest of the galaxy.

Necrons and there null zone is bit wild if they can make a better weapon or awaken more tomb worlds they can be more ally then foe to the Imperium but honestly Black Templar’s or inquisition probably wouldn’t want any or allow such heresy unless it’s given okay by powerful people

The Imperium should have a flexible Foreign Policy depending on local conditions using Rogue Traders and Inquisitors as Intermediaries with other factions.

I actually think an alliance with specific craft world’s could be made and in a more long term way now I’m not referring to craftworlds like biel tan or even ulthwe relations with them would remain the same but I could imagine a non aggression treaty and partial alliance working with the likes of Iyanden and Il-Kaithe hell there’s roomer of an inquisitorial embassy on Iyanden at one point so yeah the imperium can definitely chill out with certain ecldar

Need to know more about this "End of the Ynnari" you speak of

They really shafted the elfs

I think the silent king and sanguineous saw a small part of each other in each other. Both sound nobility royalty, but both also saw. Somebody who had it foisted upon them. Not somebody who ever made the choice to take up the Command in rule of a whole people. But who had to do what they had to do? Because it was the right thing to do for the people that they cared about. In that sense I could imagine them having a very good report with one another. To the point where yes I can genuinely see the silent king requesting to Be given a death mask of probably the one human friend he has ever had. Because just like sanguines , he understands the pain of having to wear the weight of the crown And have all the hopes of a people put upon your shoulders even if you never ask for it.

As another Torontonian, I have never seen a banjo in person, much less heard it played.

Necrons are probs the race that could benefit the most from humanity. A couple of under the table deals necrons could get several hive planets for biomass and biotranference and humanity gets necrom tech.

When we start to see the main forces of the hivemind converge on the galaxy, I think a Human/Necron alliance is pretty likely. I just really hope they also throw Tau and Eldar in there for the ultimate alliance. Maybe that's a little too noblebright, but with the darkest hours approaching it could be the only thing keeping the galaxy alive.

Trazyn has collected/seen so much of human history at this point he'd have to have a soft spot for us.

The T'au durring the 5th Tyranic War: Boy, I sure am glad that I aint anywhere near this shit.

I've been saying this for almost a decade now. Necrons are pretty much the best chance humanity has for non-human allies, because they're capable of integrity and honor. Tho, of course it would help if they also weren't super far up their own ass.

The Talleran and an eldar craft world made an alliance for all time.

Szarekh had Assholetep gagged for that meeting.

The greyknights are doing WHAT?!, can´t games workshop just...give them a break?, they already put the last macguffin that the ynnari needed in the worst possible place freezing all of the plot line, now the greknights are hunting them down?, the next imperial civil war thing sure does look more believable

This post right here, Lord Inquisitor

There is a reason why Commander Farside split from the Tau Empire.

Necrons, all the way. Great video, keep em coming :)

Honestly necrons and humans are so alike I suspect a shared lineage (my theory is Old Ones seeded Terra with proto-necrontyr DNA as another gamble at a weaponized species like eldar and krork). That said, humans may be too similar to necrons for their own good. If necrons manage to reposition themselves as the dominant faction, one of their stated goals is to reverse the biotransferance by taking over HUMAN bodies.

Necron Supremacy! The only xenos I'll ever tolerate! Serious tho, I agree 100% that the crons are the best option for humanity's ally. I really hope GW finally does something with Silent King in 10th

Got to love how himans i the tau empire managed to manifest a god

Between the orks and the Necrons, they are the front runners of the Xenos in the setting. So yes Necron are the best ally of humanity in both power and reliability.

Szarekh might also look to revert biotransference and create living immortal bodies for his people but to achieve this goal, the necrons still need living organisms to study and as vessel. something that would be gone if tyranid nomed the galaxy.

Everyone forgets it was the Necrons who came to Egypt to preserve their culture. Thats more respect than any Xeno gave humanity.

Its clearly Da Orks. They'd never abandon the imperials during a fight *cough* Dark Angles

I think that necrons want to use humans as vessels to reverse bio transference and they are forced to keep humans surviving but not to dominate galaxy

Necrons are the coolest. They're edgy and grimdark, but not as gratuitous or frivolous as the Drukhari of Chaos. As allies to the Imperium, they bring VASTLY more firepower than the T'au or Eldar, and while they may be "raging plasteel dildos", you're right about their big "warscythe" energy. If humans continue to prove themselves both competent and honorable, they might end up earning the sp00ky bois' respect.

Me tons are interesting because you could also argue they want humans alive for the possibility of using their bodies to become mortal again. Another thought that occurred to me is that necrons might not genocide humanity when for that same reason and a somewhat peaceful coexistence could be possible.

Tau or ynnari. The end

I feel like necrons are the most similar to humans on a personal and cultural level. They very quite a bit on a person to person level. They have differing goals and the ones that aren't just too mustache twirling are pretty much metal humans personality wise.