Omg yes, so many modern western movies keep making the 'you're moms hot' jokes and Dean is still refreshing!

I saw a similar dynamic with Phoebus and Esmerelda in The Hunchback of Notre Dame. Near the beginning, they could have had him notice Esmerelda first, have him be smitten with her, then donate a few coins. But that would have made the gesture shallow. Instead, they had him donate the coins FIRST. Making the gesture far more genuine. It's the little things in character interactions that matter.

They made dean likeable which can be rare for characters of his type

I even liked how his first reaction to the giant was to grab hogarth and run. Barely knew the kid and yet immediately rushed to protect him!

Dean is so great, and he's also a great foil for the other older male role model in Hogarth's life: Kent Mansely. Dean is a beat nick artist who also runs the local scrapyard. By societal standards of the time, he doesn't have very high status within society because of who he is; he's a nobody. Compare him to Kent, a man who works for the US government. Kent has incredible status within society as working for the government was the highest level of status you could hold within 50's America. And it's not just their status that clashes, but their personality. While Kent is an arrogant G-man who's wound up so tightly he could explode, Dean is cool and laid back. Both look at the Iron Giant and while Kent instantly wants to destroy it at all costs, Dean puts together that the Giant is harmless. And when faced with danger, they react in opposite ways; Kent's first instinct is self preservation when faced with looming death while Dean's putting his life on the line to keep a stranger safe when faced with the immediate danger of the Giant when he first sees the robot. And of course they have different reactions to Hogarth's mother. Kent is attracted to her and instantly puts himself on a first name basis with her and cares nothing about Hogarth, not even enough to call him by his name and not some pet name (chief, buddy, cowboy, slugger, etc.) Dean meanwhile (in the directors cut) approaches Annie after the squirrel incident to sheepishly apologize and asks her not to be angry with Hogarth saying he's a good kid. And he does that with the pretense that he's not owed any kindness for his part in the squirrel incident as it likely caused a mess Annie had to clean up.

Omg that's so sad...

Omg sometimes I question why people do these things thats awful

Lol

There's an amazing making of documentary of this movie called "The Giant's Dream" I think it's available here on KZfaq but it came out on the Blu-ray of the movie and in there Brad Bird talks about how the passing of his sister influenced this movie and why he wanted to tell this story of a gun who doesn't want to be a gun

Didnt know that 😢

Iirc Hogarth has a picture of a pilot on his dresser so that implies his dad was a Korean War pilot that was shot down

I could totally see a darker, live action version of this.

There's a lot of hints in Hogarth's room his dad was a pilot. His oversized pilot helmet and bomber jacket both likely belong to his dad. Theres a toy plane, and i think theres a picture of a pilot in his room.

@@kurtacus3581 Yeah, I tend to miss things like that. I'm a bit on the oblivious side. That tracks

oh my god I didn't even put together that he chloroformed him, that guy is sooo creepy wtf

A movie about the wrongness of killing killed by its own movie studio. This debacle shows how "good" executives really are at deciding anything - just like with that Zaslav moron who destroyed HBO for example.

No marketing

Non-Disney animated movies flopped regularly. When Anastasia came out it was said in the news that, and I even saw this in person, that parents left the theater (with their kids) once they say a non-Disney logo appear on the screen.

⁠@@motleykingdom9394even Disney flopped regularly once they decided on 3D only films. Mostly by their own choice, they purposely ruined the marketing for Treasure Planet for example to say people only wanted 3D and CGI. I still can’t believe Iron Giant “flopped,” I watched it every chance I got in theatres, on TV, and even now as a 28 yo, it’s still a comfort movie for me. Everyone I knew loved it back then as well.

I remember watching this movie a lot when I was young. I even played with the Iron Giant action figure at my uncle's house

While Kent represented the fears/paranoia of the general populace at the time, General Rogard was meant to be someone who had actually earned his position through combat experience, maybe in WW2. From his perspective, the Cold War wasn't as scary as the "hot" war he'd already seen, so even though circumstances put him on the 'wrong' side here his decisions were based in sound logic at least.

yeah I think we can assume His dad was killed in the Korean war. Perhaps in MiG alley

So they pulled the same thing that Disney pulled with Treasure planet?

@@xarenanotmyrealname4134 Yes. sadly. There was a video I watched of Brad Bird talking about it. how he was so excited on the day of the movie's release and he rushed to his local theater only to find the card board cut out of the Iron Giant display stuffed into the trash bin, and there was hardly any advertisement for the movie prior to release. If I remember right, he said he left Warner soon after, and I think Pixar picked him up not long after that. I'm not exactly sure of the time frame though.

@@kirara2516 Damn that sucks. I recently watched a video about all the shit Disney pulled to make sure Treasure planet failed you should check it out if you haven't it's by BREADSWORD very informative.

My dad just happened to grab this once at the movie store & we were shocked at how great this was.

Oh no... Is he young enough that you have to specify what Hollywood Video is? Im not that old...

He should do more voice work.

It wasn't underrated, it was undermarketed. No one knew about it. The word-of-mouth and reviews were almost universally very positive!

was it? always seemed like a classic to me and well known. think I had it taped to a blank vhs

Yeah, I've talked to my grandmother before, after watching this movie and was like, "Actually, yeah, Mansley was the thoughts and feelings of basically everyone at the time; he's barely an exaggeration."

Yes he should do that one next!

One of my childhood favourites

Loved that movie.

Both? Both. Both movies are very good.

@@CrimsonMey ………. no one said this one isn’t good. I know you’re making an el dorado reference.

:0 I never noticed!!!

Yup. You probably already know this, but those two are caricatures of the late legendary animators Frank Thomas and Ollie Johnston.

They were both directed by Brad Bird, so that definitely isn't a coincidence.

Also the callsign of Helen’s plane in The Incredibles is India Golf Niner Niner (IG99) Iron Giant released in 1999.

@@brianboardwell1986 Dude, I never even noticed that. Wow.

That's crazy, what kind of scenes?

That's awesome.

@@linneaelise7455 when the giant turns all crazy deathbot the original storyboards had people being disintegrated and the giant had some different weapon types. They got changed in favor of more sci fi energy weapon types which fit the character design better. They weren’t a big deal but the idea of people getting killed by the giant would have made the giant less likable even if he was on a berserk rampage. My memory of all this is spotty at best considering it was roughly 28 years ago and these are all things I only saw drawn on a wall and told by my friend that worked on it. I know some of the people that worked on the film like to watch these reactions so maybe they might see this and correct any errors in my memories.

Woah! I'd love to see those boards! (Im studying 2d animation)

​@@DaisyAzuras damn thats insane.

Damn I had no idea

would you still eat it knowing it was laced with laxative chocolate? XD

@@typo1345 I’ll take that risk

For my entire childhood, I thought it was too 😂

I tear up just thinking about that seen. One word breaks me everytime.

My brother and I discovered it through tv as well when we were kids. And it quickly became one of those movies we'd get so excited about when they played it on tv.

I have watched that movie countless times and I still cry every single time.

Same

Good choices 😊

There's very little if anything taken from the books for the movie. :)

I think it’s because unless you’re looking for it or you know prior, she doesn’t have an animated or iconic kind of voice. She’s a great actor but she is just playing a mom. 95% of voice actors are meant to be generic voices that fit the character rather than something distracting. I don’t think I’ll be unable to unhear it now though in rewatches 😆

I don't know if you've seen Happy Gilmore, but if you watch it you might recognize Christopher McDonald (Kent Mansley's voice actor). Christopher McDonald shouting, "oh my GOD" like when the giant ate half his car is iconic.

oh please no. Those movies are so overrated and pretentious crap. I really can't understand why everyone watches overrated garbage like those, and pretentious Ghibli crap... and not REAL anime films like Project A-Ko. Project A-Ko is far more deserving of being called an anime classic and for introducing one into what the best of anime is than pretentious malarkey like Ghibli and Akira. To understand something fully, you have to examine it's grass roots, and Project A-Ko, Megazone 23, and a whole ton of other 90's anime OVA's made during the peak of that era is a far better primer for what anime is than any of that mainstream Disney-rip off garbage, or pretentious nonsense like Your Name or Wolf Children or whatever everyone else swears by.

@@teruienages962 wow. That's a lot of venom in your comment. You're allowed to have your opinion, but don't try to pass it off as fact. you 'THINK' those movies are overrated, but that's not a common opinion. They're well loved movies because they have great messages and beautiful animation with fun characters. Or characters that people can relate to. I myself find My Neighbor Totoro very boring, but that doesn't mean it's bad. I think Howl's Moving Castle or Kiki's Delivery Service are fantastic movies, but obviously not everyone would agree. So please, cool your jets and remember what is fact and what is opinion. :)

I have a similar dream that recurs every once in a while, but with a gigantic meteor. "Strange, horrible, melancholy peace" is a better way to describe it than I ever could.

It’s definitely true that he wasn’t completely wrong and he had every reason to be cautious, but it’s funny to me that since the Iron Giant couldn’t be destroyed by the most sophisticated technology humanity had at the time, shows just HOW crucial it was treating the Iron Giant with empathy and not being hostile right!? I know what you’re saying though, like it’s just understandable why he felt that way, but it’s interesting to me that one side of the coin says it’s so dangerous it should be destroyed when the right side of the coin was, it’s so dangerous it should be treated with compassion.

​@@thecocoacouchIt's definitely a delicate situation to be certain. And it all boiled down to circumstance. Although there isn't a sequel, I imagine that upon the Giant's return after reassembling himself, the government and by extension, the military, would rethink their overall approach upon seeing that the nuke didn't accomplish anything. The General showed that there were indeed calmer heads with authority. In all likelihood they would change tactics from combat to research. To figure out who built him, and whether Earth was in further danger of a larger invasion. And if there was further danger from the Giant's creators, they would potentially seek to form an alliance with the Giant as they would need his help to fend off his creators and brethren Giants. Though sadly, given there is apparently an entire legion of Giants, Earth's best hope would be he ended up here accidentally.