The James Bond Books Compared to Their Film Adaptations: Tier Ranking the Books and Films

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Жыл бұрын

The James Bond films have had an enormous cultural impact over the past 60 years, but what about the books that inspired them?
In their own way, Ian Fleming's James Bond novels were similarly groundbreaking, giving the emerging spy fiction genre a sense of style and panache while also bringing its brutality out of the shadows.
Bond became an archetype and role model despite his many character flaws. But Fleming didn't create Bond just to entertain readers. He had other objectives in mind, too.
In this video, I discuss some of Bond's origins and influences in the books Fleming wrote between 1952 and 1964. I also evaluate the books and compare them to their film versions.
0:18 Ian Fleming background
2:32 Bringing Bond to the page
5:11 A new kind of literary spy
6:14 Bond as propaganda
8:50 Bond's snob appeal
10:11 Evaluating the books
10:45 The evolution of the Bond novels
15:01 Bond films differ from the books
18:03 Book/film comparisons
20:01 Casino Royale
21:33 Live and Let Die
22:46 Moonraker
24:09 Diamonds Are Forever
25:28 From Russia with Love
26:35 Dr. No
27:34 Goldfinger
28:29 For Your Eyes Only
30:04 Thunderball
31:11 The Spy Who Loved Me
32:34 On Her Majesty's Secret Service
33:27 You Only Live Twice
34:35 The Man with the Golden Gun
36:06 Octopussy & The Living Daylights
37:26 Patterns
In another video ( • Video ), I discuss the early history of the spy genre leading up to James Bond.
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@sheets75
@sheets75 9 ай бұрын
The one thing that always strikes me about the literary version of Bond is the amount of physical punishment he takes on the job. Every book involves him suffering some horrific injury, to the point that he ends up looking like Bruce Willis at the end of Die Hard, but he absolutely never quits because it's his duty to keep going or die trying. I remember my mom watching the License to Kill movie and being shocked that Bond got a bloody lip and mussed up his suit and hair. I also appreciate the detail Fleming gives to Bond. There's a common view from the movies that Bond is just sort of a name or cipher - just hire any actor to play him, it doesn't matter, hell, hire a woman - but Fleming's Bond is absolutely a distinct character.
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder 9 ай бұрын
Great comment! The physical abuse and injury that Bond endures in the books might be what I remember the most from when I first read them. Very different from the movies.
@bullphrogva1804
@bullphrogva1804 3 ай бұрын
I've been slowly picking away at the books and this was my first impression as well. I actually appreciated it as modern movies depict their protagonist as an invincible and stoic machine that is capable of both performing and surviving things outside of human capacity. If you've been indoctrinated by the modern movie James Bond, where he jumps from crane to crane over 40 feet and survives without injury... or other protagonist like John Wick or who ever... these books along with other books of the era are a breath of fresh air.
@BruceBanner-eg8vs
@BruceBanner-eg8vs 18 күн бұрын
Anthony Horowitz has written three excellent Bond continuation novels, although set in the original timeline (which is perfect). I notice how in the final Bond book, written by Horowitz, "With a Mind to Kill" it does emphasize Bond's accumulated physical injuries and how he becomes disillusioned with suffering so much because of M's orders. It ends a la "The Spy Who came in from the Cold" and I think it's an excellent ending.
@warrenrhinerson6373
@warrenrhinerson6373 11 ай бұрын
Personally one thing I love about Flemings novels is not only how descriptive he is but also how Bond changes throughout. Even in Casino Royale alone, Bond goes from a dark lonely person to a man who is willing to give up everything for the woman he loves. Even by the time of Dr No, Bond develops his iconic sense of humor. James Bond is the only fictional spy character who actually feels like he could be a real person in the novels. Also one thing I will note. While Fleming mentions a lot of brands that are considered luxury today, most of them were not at the time. Take Rolex for example. At the time the novels were written and take place, Rolex watches were not luxury items but extremely high quality tool watches meant to be used and abused within an inch of its life. Similar to how GShock or Seiko watches are today. For reference in 1954, a brand new Rolex Submariner cost about $150($1200 when adjusted for inflation). Bonds watch is a more simple Rolex Oyster and he even uses it to beat a guard to death in On her majesty’s secret service. Literacy Bond isn’t so much a fan of luxury as he is a man who likes quality.
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder 11 ай бұрын
Great comment! Thanks for sharing.
@joeyfiuza
@joeyfiuza 8 ай бұрын
One of the best comment ever ! Thanks a lot.
@josephnizolek3975
@josephnizolek3975 Жыл бұрын
My father was a big fan of the series when they first came out, , help him become a constant reader in his adult life
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! One of the nice things about the Bond books is that they're all relatively short, so they don't require a large commitment of time or mental energy to read. They make a nice gateway to reading for people not in the habit of it.
@carlsinger2185
@carlsinger2185 8 ай бұрын
I just gotta say man. You have the perfect storytelling voice. You should consider doing e-books and voice acting
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder 8 ай бұрын
Thanks! I just dipped my toe in the storytelling water last week by recording an audiobook of a collection of classic short stories by Lord Dunsany. I uploaded two of the stories here on my channel if you're interested.
@darrylldoucette6895
@darrylldoucette6895 Жыл бұрын
Cudos for your references to Raffles and Arsene Lupin as early influences on Bond. Spot on considering they are largely forgotten characters who have had massive influences on many modern franchises. Both Lupin and Fantomas, for instance, are intrinsic to the modern Mission Impossible films.
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I love the early adventure novels and gentleman thief stories from the late 1800s and early 1900s that helped inspire much of the later spy genre. I made a separate video about the roots of the spy genre last fall, and I plan to feature many of those authors and works in future videos.
@unclepatrick2
@unclepatrick2 3 ай бұрын
Some of the plots from the books showed up in latter movies . Felix fate from Live and Let Die , was used in License to kill and the garden of death from You only live twice , shows up in No time to die
@michaelpoplawski2998
@michaelpoplawski2998 10 ай бұрын
This is an outstanding job for reviewing the books, novels and conducting a comparison. I appreciate the very insightful comments and analysis. This brought back points that I had forgotten and those that I didn't connect.
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for your very kind comment! I had a lot of fun making this video, as well as a companion video on the roots of the spy fiction genre.
@SamnissArandeen
@SamnissArandeen 7 ай бұрын
I hadn't read a Bond book since middle school, so this is a nice refresher to me, a lifelong fan of the Bond films. I remember being in third grade predicting (successfully) the next film would be Casino Royale. What I could never have predicted was just how legendary it would be!
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder 7 ай бұрын
I assume you're referring to the Daniel Craig version. The 1967 Woody Allen version is legendary, but in a very different way. :D
@SolarLabyrinth
@SolarLabyrinth Жыл бұрын
I love the novels and films...to varying degrees, as is consistent with your own ratings and tiers. In my opinion, the novels were best when sticking to the more mundane and character-driven aspects of Bond. Some of my favorite parts of the books (and films) are when Bond is just living his life as an agent: traveling, eating, staying in hotels, and meeting either the Bond girls or allies while on a mission. When it got over the top or veered too far off into absurdity, that's when the books were their weakest.
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder Жыл бұрын
That's pretty consistent with how I enjoyed the books. The more spectacle the books contained, the harder it was for me to suspend disbelief and ignore the plot holes and boneheaded decisions by Bond. You Only Live Twice (the book) made me wonder if Fleming was experimenting with controlled substances while he wrote it (similar to how Philip K Dick wrote many of his books and short stories). On the whole, I think the lure of TV and film adaptations (and the spectacle they demanded) were unfortunate influences on Fleming while he wrote many of his later books. Thanks for sharing!
@erikbergfeldt4007
@erikbergfeldt4007 Жыл бұрын
I have only seen the movies. Top and bottom five. 1. Casino Royale: Gritty and psychological. 2. In Her Majesty's Secret Service: Maybe the most 'Bond' of Bond movies. 3. License To Kill: Different, daring and brutal. 4. Thunderball: The chain of events starting with Palazzi's new demands and ends with Domino siding with Bond saves the day. 5. Goldfinger: Probably the most iconic. Worst five in no particular order: Moonraker, Spectre, No Time To Die, Die Another Day, You Only Live Twice. Never Say Never Again has been disqualified. But it would have been on the bottom five.
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder Жыл бұрын
Your Top 5 list has a lot in common with my own, though I'm ambivalent about License to Kill, and I'd rank From Russia with Love higher. I'm more charitable than you toward the two most recent films in your Bottom 5, although I think they're somewhat bloated and make a hash of Bond canon. I enjoyed the Roger Moore films the most in my youth (they were the first ones I ever watched, and the stunts in them are spectacular), but most of them haven't aged well and are the least consistent with how Fleming wrote the character. Several of them would be in my Bottom 5 along with You Only Live Twice and Die Another Day. Like you, I disqualified Never Say Never Again from consideration in this video. It's a far inferior remake of Thunderball. Thanks for sharing!
@cyntoh9265
@cyntoh9265 Жыл бұрын
Great reviews. The comparisons of the books and the movies were pretty interesting and I don't hold a radically different opinion than yours in the ratings of books and movies.
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm very glad you enjoyed the video (and that I'm not alone in my tastes).
@DobbsyRCT
@DobbsyRCT Ай бұрын
Casino Royale is one of my favourtite thriller novels ever and the literary character has never been fully realised on screen.
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder Ай бұрын
It is such a tightly plotted novel, and Bond makes a very stark impression in it. I agree with you that no actor (or script) has ever quite managed to capture Fleming's version of him.
@BookishChas
@BookishChas Жыл бұрын
Also wanted to add, the new Casino Royale and Goldeneye are two of my favorite films. Connery is my favorite Bond, followed by Craig. Judi Dench is an impeccable M.
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder Жыл бұрын
Good choices! Early Connery (particularly in Dr. No), Craig and Timothy Dalton were the portrayals closest to how Fleming wrote Bond. Likewise, in the books, Bond's relationship with M is contentious, but also complex, and Dench's M taps into that complexity in way that earlier portrayals don't.
@DafyddBrooks
@DafyddBrooks Жыл бұрын
This has to be the best video on KZfaq that covers the history of Ian Flemings James Bond!! Well Done and thank you sir :)
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Nearly all of the content on KZfaq related to Bond seemed to be limited to discussion of the films. I decided to remedy that by highlighting the books that inspired the films (and that are often quite different from them).
@erictrumpler9652
@erictrumpler9652 5 ай бұрын
"From Russia..." was my German aunt's first full novel in English... the suspense motivating her to reading it to the end.... Great review, I like it very much that you don't do a typical numeric ranking. Your top right favorites were also the ones I reread most frequently as a teenager...interestingly, those are also the ones with the most compelling sex scenes.
@wileyschmitt
@wileyschmitt Жыл бұрын
Great video! Your editing skills are awesome, very well done indeed!
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Wiley! I try to do something new in each video so I can learn new skills. I also injected a little of the 1950s/60s vibe into this one (mainly through the music).
@tehchikon
@tehchikon 9 күн бұрын
Clicked because I was curious, stayed because of your caramel-crunch voice, subscription well earned.
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder 8 күн бұрын
Thanks! I hope you enjoy my other videos. I'll be making more non-SFF book content in the future.
@michaelk.vaughan8617
@michaelk.vaughan8617 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! Really informative. I’ve somehow never read a single Bond book. I really need to do that.
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Michael! As I mention in the video, start at the beginning of the series and you're relatively safe. The first time I read Casino Royale was shortly after the 2006 film came out, and I was pleasantly surprised by how much I enjoyed it. It's not great literature, but it's a step up from a lot of the pulp fiction that was being written at that time. (From one pulp fiction fan to another.)
@hippolyte90
@hippolyte90 Жыл бұрын
Great video and very timely as I'm currently reading my way through the James Bond-novels. However, I respectfully disagree with your opinion on Honeychile Rider from the 'Dr. No' novel. SPOILER WARNING The book version is a much more complex and interesting character compared to the movie version who's just completely forgettable except for that first scene when she rose out of the ocean in that white bikini. Yes, she acts quite immature but that's to be expected of a woman who raised herself from childhood while living in an old basement and educating herself from encyclopedias. At the same time she is smart, ruthless and strong. She saves herself from her captors and later comforts and takes care of Bond after he's been tortured by Dr. No.
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder Жыл бұрын
Those are all fair points about her character, and I would have mentioned her strengths if I had been doing a deeper dive in my reviews. My inner cringe stemmed mostly from how much of a caricature certain aspects of her are. Her immaturity, her unrealistic level of self-education (given her youth when orphaned), and her incomprehensible attraction to Bond (given her history and his purely animal response to her) didn't allow me to suspend disbelief while reading. She has considerably more substance than Ursula Andress' limited role in the film as eye candy. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@DutchBondFan
@DutchBondFan 2 ай бұрын
Fantastic video, you have a great voice, very easy to listen to! Cheers from a Bond channel!
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder 2 ай бұрын
Thank you! I had a lot of fun making this video and a companion video about the early history of the spy genre in fiction.
@DafyddBrooks
@DafyddBrooks Ай бұрын
Glad you finally found this Jeroen
@Joneserinn
@Joneserinn Жыл бұрын
Thanks for a wonderful video, your voice is so soothing :) I'm reading the novels for the first time in my life and I've thoroughly enjoyed them all up to this point (currently reading Dr. No but have also read the Horowitz Bond novels). My favourite Bond film is Goldfinger so obviously I'm very much looking forward to reading it soon.
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm very glad you enjoyed the video. For me, part of the fun of reading the Bond books is trying to figure out why the film adaptations vary so widely in their faithfulness to the source material. Goldfinger is perfect for that kind of analysis, because the film is almost faithful to the book, but in the few places it deviates, it's pretty significant.
@jammontgomery2320
@jammontgomery2320 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Your voice is also great! You could do some James Bond audiobooks, maybe the voices of some villains.
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I recorded a couple of spooky short stories and uploaded them for Halloween here on my channel. I might do more stories from other genres as well in the future.
@MrDewynter
@MrDewynter Жыл бұрын
Superb commentary, well-informed and entertainingly presented. Subscribed.
@TrekBeatTK
@TrekBeatTK Ай бұрын
So far I’e only read the first three and while Casino Royale has a lot going for it, Moonraker reads really well and may be my favorite. I live the mundane paperwork stuff we get in it, while also not taking chapters to explain the rules of baccarat.
@RedFuryBooks
@RedFuryBooks Жыл бұрын
I probably don't have any desire to read the Bond novels, but did enjoy this video. I watched all of the Bond films a few summers ago, so they're fresh in my mind. My favorites were probably On Her Majesty's Secret Service, GoldenEye and Skyfall. Least favorite was easily Moonraker, although Octopussy and Dr. No I rated low as well. Thanks for a fun video!
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Josh. Moonraker is probably the silliest of the films, but I still remember the incredible feeling of awe and exhilaration I felt when I watched the opening sky diving sequence on a big screen in the theater as a kid. I recently learned that it took them nearly 90 jumps over a period of about a month to get all the shots needed for that stunt sequence. I imagine that was partly because cinema-quality movie cameras were a lot bulkier then and difficult to manage while in freefall. I suspect Fleming would have enjoyed the Daniel Craig films. Their tone is a lot closer to the original books, although only one is based on a book.
@thrashpuppy2010
@thrashpuppy2010 Ай бұрын
OHMSS is underrated!
@BookishChas
@BookishChas Жыл бұрын
Another fantastic video Bridger. I really enjoyed your comprehensive treatment of the origins of Bond.
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Chas! This is part of a series of videos I'm working on in which I'll explore the origins of various genres and works of fiction.
@Diana-ch8cv
@Diana-ch8cv Жыл бұрын
What a great companion to the history of spy fiction - I always learn so much from your videos, thank you 👍
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm so glad you enjoyed both videos.
@BooksForever
@BooksForever Жыл бұрын
The amount of research that went into this segment is exceeded perhaps only by the skill and energy evident in the video production and editing. I'm gobsmacked, shaken, AND stirred. Lol
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder Жыл бұрын
Thanks! It was a lot of work, but also a lot of fun to produce.
@immanuel7925
@immanuel7925 Жыл бұрын
I love your voice dude. It's so dope and calming.
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder Жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks!
@Harucardiel
@Harucardiel Жыл бұрын
I have randomly come across an amazing channel!!! Subscribing, cant wait to binge your vids lol
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder Жыл бұрын
Thank you and welcome aboard!
@Michaelpatrickwarren
@Michaelpatrickwarren 4 ай бұрын
I actually love The Man With The Golden Gun book. I think it's realistic as a story of an aging spy who makes mistakes and is burnt out. I would be so bold as to say it's my favorite book.
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and sharing! There's no objectively right or wrong answer to the question of which Bond book is best. We all have our own preferences, and I'm very glad that each of the Bond books has enthusiastic fans. :)
@frankb821
@frankb821 Жыл бұрын
You have a great voice, a pleasure listening to! I'll definitely be back to investigate more of this channel. BTW...my favorite Bond novel is Dr. No, but favorite film is From Russia With Love. Cheers!
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder Жыл бұрын
Thank you! From Russia with Love is my favorite film in the series as well.
@CeceliPS3
@CeceliPS3 Жыл бұрын
@@thelibraryladder You probably don't like videogames, but From Russia with Love was also a game for Playstation 2 and they had Sean Connory doing the lines and animations. I hold that movie dear to me. I only wish I'd find that book to buy. Or dreaming higher, the complete box, which seems to have only 1 to buy at a ridiculous price.
@thekeywitness
@thekeywitness Жыл бұрын
Terrific video. I haven’t read all of the Fleming books but I remember when I started to read them: lunchtime in middle school, alone at my locker. I’m not sure where I started in the series, but I devoured a few of them before getting into other authors. I doubt that I understood some of the more adult content. I came back to the series later. The first Bond movie I saw was Diamonds are Forever on TV with my dad when I was about 7 or 8. So, I read the books just a few years later. I think it’s cool that the last Bond movie No Time to Die incorporated the poison garden from the You Only Live Twice novel (a feature that was neglected in the movie of that book).
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder Жыл бұрын
Thanks! My first Bond film was Moonraker, which I saw with my dad in the theater. I'd never seen such spectacular stunts in a movie before, and the silliness of the script wasn't an obstacle for my juvenile mind at the time. I didn't start reading the books until about 20 years ago. Good catch about the garden of death. I'm kicking myself that I didn't pick up on that callout when I watched No Time to Die a few months ago.
@CeceliPS3
@CeceliPS3 Жыл бұрын
The level of effort put in this + the level of taste with background music and paced low tone voice almost ASMR-like is amazing. Thanks for having made this video :) PS.: shame to all parties involved in reprinting Fleming novels with woke adaptations.
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I had a lot of fun making this video.
@cutthr0atjake
@cutthr0atjake Жыл бұрын
I started reading Bond books when I was 9 or 10 and love them more than the films that "stole" their names. My favourite novel's are Moonraker (Which shares mire DNA with the film Die Another Day than it does the Moonraker film) and my overall favourite, On Her Majesty's Secret Service.
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! I agree that those are among the best books. I'm going to guess that your favorite Bond film is either Casino Royale or From Russia with Love (for their faithfulness to the books).
@cutthr0atjake
@cutthr0atjake Жыл бұрын
@the library ladder Actually its Licence To Kill. Whilst Casino Royale is closer in plot, Dalton's portrayal was closer to the character in the books than Craig, or any other actor.
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder Жыл бұрын
@@cutthr0atjake That makes sense. Dalton definitely was closest to how Fleming wrote Bond.
@erictrumpler9652
@erictrumpler9652 5 ай бұрын
A shame Dalton didn't end up playing On Her Majesty's Secret Service.... probably Roger Moore would never have happened... being a fan of the books, Roger Moore was always a disappointment to me, my least favorite Bond actor.
@rodrigoramos3140
@rodrigoramos3140 4 ай бұрын
Amazing video! Lots of information.loved it!
@mikesmith2905
@mikesmith2905 8 ай бұрын
I prefer the less glitzy themes. From Russia with Love remains my favourite book and I would rate it as the best film, it remains (just) within the bounds of possibility but manages to include some believable and practical gadgets. I also feel the earlier book were better but I did enjoy Goldfinger, the first film I saw..
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder 8 ай бұрын
I feel much the same way. Thanks for sharing!
@rrassoc
@rrassoc 5 ай бұрын
From Russia with Love is my #2. Nothing comes close to Casino Royale for me.
@murph_archer1129
@murph_archer1129 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic work as always. Your previous video has made me really want to pick up the Bond books and this has reinforced that opinion. Here's hoping they show up under the Christmas tree! Also we have similar taste in Bone films. I love on her majesty secret service and from Russia with love
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder Жыл бұрын
Go for it! (Or perhaps that's a message I should be sending to Santa.) As I mention in the video, I would read them in publication order, starting with Casio Royale, to get the best feel for how Fleming intended the character and also to maintain narrative continuity. If you enjoy the first book, that's a pretty good indicator that you'll enjoy at least some of the subsequent books in the series.
@omar_syrinx2112
@omar_syrinx2112 4 ай бұрын
Im getting into the James Bond books, I saw the films and are quite amazing, but I think that the books have more interesting things that I must know. Great video!👍🏻
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder 4 ай бұрын
Thanks! I'm glad you're enjoying the books!
@reedl2353
@reedl2353 10 ай бұрын
The depiction of Bond in the early stories is, by the standards of the movies, weirdly realistic. Bond is not simply a hedonist with a taste for the finer things in life. He is an assassin who knows that he has a 100% chance of being killed on the job at some point, so he literally lives like he has no tomorrow. He spends every penny he makes, because what's the point of saving money? He exclusively dates married women, because what's the point of forming emotional attachments? Fleming even provided Bond with supplementary income - an inheritance that provides him a yearly stipend that sounds ridiculously small in 21st century money, but was more than a government worker earned in the 60's. These details (minus inheritance) are even carried over into the Daniel Craig version of Dr. No, giving me hope that Craig would provide a relatively faithful version of Bond. Of course, we know that didn't pan out. Some favorite things from the Bond novels - in Moonraker, Fleming describes Bond's day to day activities at the office, including firearms practice and reading case files. Prosaic and banal, it is none the less a realistic and fascinating look into what the office job of a government assassin might be like. I love the travelogue aspects of Fleming's stories; he loved to describe places and cuisine. Finally, I adore Bond's eulogy at the end of You Only Live Twice, because it lays out the history and accomplishments of a character that bears absolutely no resemblance to the character that fans spent the last dozen books reading about. Bond was an expert in martial arts and 'Oriental' culture? Really? You Only Live Twice is easily my favorite Bond film, followed by The Spy Who Loved Me, itself a pastiche of You Only Live Twice. And it's easy to forget with the passage of time that Moonraker was a wildly successful movie. At the time of its release, it had the best box office of any Bond film (something true of every Bond film to that point). No, it didn't age well, but very few things do.
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing that great comment. I found the eulogy at the end of YOLT to be a little bizarre for the same reason you mentioned. Also, you make a good point about the similarities between the film versions of YOLT and TSWLM.
@donaldrobers5028
@donaldrobers5028 Жыл бұрын
Excellent precise of the Bond literary canon! As to Live and Let Die, I agree that the first half of the book is extremely dated and cringeworthy, but I think the later chapters that move the action to Florida and then Jamaica contain some of Fleming's best writing. He excelled when the plots took Bond to the Carribean and had an obvious love for the area, unlike most of the adventures that took Bond to the United States. I think we were just another strayed colony in Fleming's worldview.
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder Жыл бұрын
Thanks! That's a good point about the later chapters in Live and Let Die. Those parts of the books salvaged somewhat the much worse early chapters.
@callummoore6962
@callummoore6962 3 ай бұрын
Wow, great video dude. My Top 5 Bond novels list would go like this: Moonraker, Casino Royale, On Her Majesty's Secret Service, From Russia with Love, Dr. No My Top 5 Bond films: Casino Royale, On Her Majesty's Secret Service, Skyfall, From Russia with Love, Licence to Kill My Bond actor ranking: Dalton, Craig, Connery, Moore, Brosnan, Lazenby
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder 3 ай бұрын
Thanks! Great lists. I'd rank the actors a little differently, but not a lot.
@callummoore6962
@callummoore6962 3 ай бұрын
@@thelibraryladder That's fair, Connery and Craig tend to switch places for me.
@amalathisdreaming
@amalathisdreaming Жыл бұрын
I never really liked Bond movies too much, so I skipped the books. Casino Royale was my favorite one though, even though it went a bit over the top - like Bond movies tend to - with gadgets and action scenes, it also was one of the very few in which both Bond and his adversaries felt human.
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder Жыл бұрын
I've always enjoyed the Bond films for their spectacular stunts and gadgets (despite their over-the-top aspects), while the plots are mostly ridiculous and full of holes, and Bond himself is mostly a caricature. In contrast, many of the books are quite different, and the characters, including Bond, feel more real (particularly in the earlier books in the series).
@justsomedude5727
@justsomedude5727 10 ай бұрын
Ive gotten through most of the books, I find I tend to prefer the book when they differ from the movie, but if the movie is more faithful I prefer the film. My favorite book is probably diamonds are forever, I like the deep dive into smuggling, Bond working up through the ranks, tiffany case, spectreville, and bond on an ocean liner is something i would really like in the movies.
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing! I can understand your reaction to the books. I find it hard to keep the film versions out of my mind when reading the books, particularly when the two versions are very similar.
@johanjoseph4802
@johanjoseph4802 11 ай бұрын
I'm binging a few of your videos after Chatting with Nutts. Instant Subsribe to your style of video content 💚. Hope to see you in other longer discussions/podcasts.
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder 11 ай бұрын
Thanks! I enjoyed last night's chat with Jimmy, and I hope to do it again in the future.
@GiovanniAlckmimRusso
@GiovanniAlckmimRusso 8 ай бұрын
From Fleming novels I was only able to get Live and Let Die and Diamonds are Forever, but I loved both of them. Live and Let Die has the better story but Diamonds are Forever has the best Bond Girl
@rrassoc
@rrassoc 5 ай бұрын
Goldfinger and Moonraker were also particularly good. Goldfinger started slowly with lots of character development, but then got well into the plot. Moonraker was VERY different from the movie, -my least favorite movie, BTW.
@davedehetre
@davedehetre Жыл бұрын
have you read the recent novels? Some are really good, I think the William Boyd one, and the Anthony Horowitz ones I especially liked.
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder Жыл бұрын
Only Kingsley Amis' Colonel Sun (not exactly a recent Bond) and a couple of the Horowitz ones, which I enjoyed. I think Horowitz writes well in several genres, from spy thrillers to mysteries to children's books.
@TheRealBGregz
@TheRealBGregz 2 ай бұрын
I like the way this guy talks. It’s very relaxing!
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder 2 ай бұрын
Thanks! I try to be low-stress kind of guy.
@MyMy-tv7fd
@MyMy-tv7fd Жыл бұрын
interesting, but what happened to 'On Her Majesty's Secret Service'?
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder Жыл бұрын
It's at the 32:34 mark. Thanks for watching.
@ukestudio3002
@ukestudio3002 4 ай бұрын
First off, wonderful narration. Second, read these from grade school age 1963, i was 12- since at the time it became known they were a favorite of President Kennedy.
@dominikplaskota2549
@dominikplaskota2549 3 ай бұрын
Great list, I'd stack them pretty much alike with Thunderball, OHMSS and FRWL by far best and most enjoyable writing, Goldfinger and FRWL has to win as the best movies aka best adaptations, adding Connery as probably the most faithful Bond incarnation
@fe6767
@fe6767 8 ай бұрын
I've seen quite a few of the films over the years and when I saw a copy of Thunderball for $1 at a school fair in 2014, I bought and read it. My reaction to the book was to naturally compare it to the films. Like you, I was struck by the lack of humour and the tendency for a lot of descriptive stuff about technology. I also thought the book version of Bond has little personality apart from a disdain for the 'modern' (where 'modern' = 1960s). What the book and film versions of Bond have in common, is that he blunders about and then reacts to what happens to him. In the book, it is his connections rather than gadgets that help him. There is a very strong sense of class system in the book. Where Bond considers himself well above most people.
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your thoughts about them. I agree that Bond is a capable spy when placed in difficult situations, but not a very smart one in many respects. It's my understanding that the addition of humor to Bond's personality in the films was a contract demand Connery made before he would accept the role. Upper-crust Fleming likely projected some of his own attitudes and behaviors onto Bond despite the character's more humble origins.
@vinson1445
@vinson1445 6 ай бұрын
Not sure why, but I've always pictured Bond as Mel Gibson in The Year of Living Dangerously. I like the books better than the movies, and I even liked The Man with the Golden Gun, maybe because I knew it was the last one.
@joshslater2426
@joshslater2426 2 ай бұрын
I’ll be honest, I like the films a bit more, but that’s only because they’re more cinematic and have a grander scale. Even the short stories made great films even though they just took the title, maybe a few characters and nothing else. Also, I like the fact that the Goldfinger film took everything from the book, tweaked it a bit, and then made nearly every element a staple of spy films for the next 60 years.
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder 2 ай бұрын
I tend to agree with you. The Bond books are smaller in scale and scope, and if the films had remained faithful to them, Bond's cultural impact would have been more limited (and the films likely would have ended after Thunderball) in my opinion.
@FrankGrauJr
@FrankGrauJr 8 ай бұрын
I’ve come to accept the film Bond as an entirely different character, so I don’t care if the films match the books (mostly because I was a fan of the Sean Connery films long before I ever read any of the books). It’s the same with Tarzan. I had become too acquainted with the old films before I read the books and discovered how completely different the character was, so I simply enjoy the film iteration as a thing in itself without comparing it to the films. I suspect the reason I don’t care that the films match the books is because I was a film fan first. Had I read the books first, I’d probably complain about the films. In any case, thanks for the review. I’m enjoying your collections.
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the thoughtful comment! I tend to view the differences between the Bond books and films (and the Tarzan ones too) in much the same way. The differences are so large that one almost has to view them as separate creations. My hope with this video is to encourage more people to read the Bond books (or at least the better ones) and not assume that if they've seen the movie, they already know Bond and the corresponding book's plot. As a bit of trivia, I learned recently that the inclusion of humor in the Bond films was a contract stipulation Sean Connery insisted on before he would agree to take the role.
@dant5349
@dant5349 8 ай бұрын
Would love to see a video on Fleming’s more literary counterpart in popular spy fiction, John Le Carrè
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion! I plan to feature him in a future video. He was one of the best.
@erictrumpler9652
@erictrumpler9652 5 ай бұрын
I highly agree!
@nihits
@nihits Жыл бұрын
The man with the golden gun is closely connected with You only live twice... the amnesia and kissy suzuki .. the spy who loved me has references to blofeld and is a sequel to thunderball.
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder Жыл бұрын
You're right. And to a large extent, all of the Fleming novels (excluding the short story collections For Your Eyes Only and Octopussy/The Living Daylights) are sequels. Most are direct continuations of Bond's story from the preceding book(s). It's very different from the standalone aspect of the films.
@nihits
@nihits Жыл бұрын
@@thelibraryladder I wish the films respected that.. it would have been a far more engaging series.
@SolomonAD
@SolomonAD 4 ай бұрын
I remember listening to the audiobooks for the first three bonds in high school and reading the successive novel by Sebastian Faulks “Devil May Care” and thinking it was solid. I’d like to read Moonraker as I’ve heard it’s the actual best.
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder 4 ай бұрын
I agree that Moonraker (the novel) is among Fleming's best.
@user-ld9qi7qs5h
@user-ld9qi7qs5h 6 ай бұрын
As you asked....."No Time To Die" can go fudge itself. Yep, Im still not over it. 😬
@stewarer
@stewarer 3 ай бұрын
I've read the cannon at least twice and have loved and despised the film adaptations over the years. I agree that Casino Royale and the 2006 film adaptation is the sweet spot for great cinema that is true to the original work. I think from Russia With Love is my favorite of the novels after Casino Royale and I really enjoyed George Lazenby in the film role (and his amazing stunt work). Aside from Daniel Craig's brutal true portrayal of Bond in Casino Royale, I can't help but love Sean Connery's interpretations of the character in the first films, my favorites of which are Thunderball (Never Say Never) followed by Dr. No. Edit: Whoops! Confused the movie of On Her Majesty's Secret Service with the novel From Russia With Love. FRWL is my second favorite of the series of novels and OHMSS is my fourth pick for the cinema adaptations. Apologies for the muddle. It's been over ten years since I last read the full oeuvre.
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experiences with the books and films! They sound very similar to my own. I'm eager (and slightly nervous) to see what the film producers do with the next incarnation of Bond.
@stewarer
@stewarer 3 ай бұрын
@@thelibraryladder I also watched your history of the spy novel and found it fascinating. I'll also post on your couplet of Neal Stephenson.
@motionpictureplus
@motionpictureplus 8 ай бұрын
What’s your beef with Honey Rider?
@reddchan
@reddchan Жыл бұрын
Great video. He sounds like Wendell the librarian.
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Wendell is a source of inspiration to many. :)
@brandonwhite8935
@brandonwhite8935 10 ай бұрын
Timothy Dalton was the closest to Fleming's book version. Daniel Craig is a unique mixture of the Fleming Bond and the cinema Bond imo
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder 10 ай бұрын
I agree with your assessment of their portrayals of Bond. Thanks for sharing!
@brandonwhite8935
@brandonwhite8935 10 ай бұрын
@@thelibraryladder 👍💯
@skeller61
@skeller61 5 ай бұрын
I read most of them in paperback when I was quite a bit younger, though I saw a lot of the movies before I picked up a Fleming book. I was born in 1961, a year before the first movie, Dr. No, came out. It seemed that the first few movies developed the movie Bond tropes, including the Bond girls, Q gadgets, cars that were cool and had modifications that always had a convenient scene to see what they could do. Once Roger Moore took over, like the later acton movie franchises (think Die Hard, or Fast and Furious) they became increasingly ridiculous by trying to top the action of the previous ones. I liked Moore’s first movie, Live and let die, but it was more a satire than it was a serious Bond story. I think Connery was the best Bond (probably because the movies were somewhat less over the top than later movies). However, my favorite Bond film is the only one starring George Lazenby as Bond, On Her Majesty's Secret Service. I haven’t watched many after Roger Moore’s era. I stopped enjoying the impossible action stuff, especially like that space fighting you showed. It looks like Daniel Craig’s movies might have reset the comedy and overly outlandish action. I’ve only seen one of them and will have to check out the others. A few years later, I started reading the books. I enjoyed most of them. I thought Live and Let Die benefitted from Fleming living in Jamaica for a while. Casino Royale did seem more like a detective novel, with a straight, simple plot line, with mistakes by Bond. I suppose I’d have to call it my favorite, as well. Thanks for your video!
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder 5 ай бұрын
Thank for sharing your perspective! I agree with you about Bond being best when he's not overwhelmed by spectacle. Daniel Craig's first outing as Bond in Casino Royale did a great job of resetting the franchise, although the last couple of his Bond films lost some story coherence in service to spectacle, in my opinion.
@skeller61
@skeller61 5 ай бұрын
@@thelibraryladder Thanks for your reply. I recently, as a big self gift, got all 13 Folio Society editions of the Ian Fleming James Bond novels (@ $75 each). As I near retirement, I am building my library of books I want to read or reread. I plan to read them in publication order, and watch the corresponding movie as I go. I can’t remember which Daniel Craig movie I watched (Quantum of Solace(?)), and there was a scene where he and the bad guy were running around a huge elephant cage style antenna. Even though it was definitely a somewhat overwrought scene, it could, at least, happen. The old films finally just eschewed reality to the point where I didn’t enjoy them.
@anthonydileonardo8156
@anthonydileonardo8156 9 ай бұрын
nice Rod Serling-like narration....
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder 9 ай бұрын
Thanks! It was completely unintentional. :)
@anthonydileonardo8156
@anthonydileonardo8156 9 ай бұрын
@@thelibraryladder reminded me of how much I love Twilight Zone...lol
@grahamrye8132
@grahamrye8132 7 ай бұрын
An entertaining presentation and a perfect watch for Bond book beginners. 007 MAGAZINE (October 20, 2023)
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder 7 ай бұрын
Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed it. My hope is to encourage more people to read the books.
@williammcguire130
@williammcguire130 6 ай бұрын
Drax's real identity is a major spoiler and even though I don't personally care about them I was shocked at how matter of factly you delivered it when you largely kept things vague in the first two reviews. MOONRAKER is my favorite of the novels-- it has an almost Graham Greene quality and the final scene gets me every time.
@williammcguire130
@williammcguire130 6 ай бұрын
Also LIVE AND LET DIE is a tricky one. The patois is very jarring but the actual prose is literally the best of Fleming's career and the thing has incredible sweep. I think the first five novels are all pretty good (DIAMONDS is the weakest, by far) and that's one where some products of its time stand out and obscure a great pulp adventure
@erictrumpler9652
@erictrumpler9652 5 ай бұрын
I love the bridge (card game) scene in the book...
@erictrumpler9652
@erictrumpler9652 5 ай бұрын
For me Drax and Goldfinger are nearly interchangeable as villains in the books ...
@erictrumpler9652
@erictrumpler9652 5 ай бұрын
I read most of the novels one after another in order, before seeing any of the films... they were on my parents' bookshelf, Golden Gun came out while I was completing the series... I remember it as being a complete muddle, and unrecognizable from the book, after that Moonraker and Spy who Loved me were better movie productions, but I was always dissappoined when films departed from the novels. When I later saw the earlier films, I was still unhappy with the film adaptations... partly because I was watching them on television, and thought OHMSS was the best adaptation. In those days it never came on television, and it wasn't until after Roger Moore retired that I actually had a chance to see On her Majesty's Secret Service for the first time during a time when there were more Bond retrospectives. In the 80's no one thought much of Lazenby as a Bond actor, so much so that it was years until I learned that there even was another Bond actor between Connery and Moore.
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing! I agree with you that Lazenby's performance in OHMSS was unfairly panned. He didn't have the same physicality or cocky charm that Connery brought to the role, but he was a far more believable Bond than Moore ever was. I would have liked to see Diamonds Are Forever with Lazenby. Connery was past his prime in it, and his disinterest in the character at that point was readily apparent. Also, OHMSS definitely ranks among the best Bond books and films in my opinion.
@macsnafu
@macsnafu 8 ай бұрын
Well, you cover a lot of different types of fiction in your videos, from sf to fantasy to espionage. Not that I'm complaining. I think a good reader is someone who's tried various types of fiction to find out what he really likes, and may well like a wide a variety of fiction. As for Bond in particular, I was really impressed by the first book, Casino Royale. It's easy to see why it did well and captured the public as it did. I've read most of the books in the series, but maybe not all of them. Some of them don't stay in my mind too well. I was really looking forward to reading The Man With The Golden Gun, because that was first Bond film I saw as a kid growing up in the 70s. Plus it was initially published the same year I was born. Such a disappointment. I really liked the opening, where Bond comes back brainwashed and attempts to kill M. But then it's completely dropped, and Bond gets involved with gangsters and trains. I think they should have built on the opening and made the whole book about Bond's brainwashing, and dealing with that, or better yet, some kind of counterplot to go after those who did the brainwashing and finish whatever mission he had been on, or at least filled in the details involving the brainwashing for the sake of closure. Oh well, missed opportunities. I know you were focused on the books, and only on the faithfulness of the film adaptations. But the faithfulness of the adaptation doesn't really describe the quality of the films. Several of the less faithful adaptations are great Bond movies, like The Spy Who Loved Me, or For Your Eyes Only. And speaking of those stories, I really liked several of the short stories, as uneven and incomplete as they are. For Your Eyes Only is definitely the best and most Bond-like, but I really liked Quantum of Solace and Octopussy, even if Bond was a superfluous and unnecessary character for those stories. Like many good short stories, they both managed an unexpected twist at the end for the reader. There seems to be a theme of nostalgia for Imperialistic Britain, and the idea that stiff upper-lipped Britishers can only let their hair down and have fun by *leaving* Britain. Of course, I wouldn't rank the books as too high in realism, and the movies even less so. For my money, John LeCarre did much more realistic spy thrillers, and was still able to make them interesting stories. Especially in Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy.
@apex2000
@apex2000 10 ай бұрын
Shorter video than expected. Thumbs up though.
@yeahweburnstuff
@yeahweburnstuff Жыл бұрын
Perhaps Bond was an early 77th Brigade project?
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder Жыл бұрын
Good question. I don't know the answer.
@vykuntapufangtxpreet9546
@vykuntapufangtxpreet9546 20 күн бұрын
Love The Voice.
@artyfhartie2269
@artyfhartie2269 7 ай бұрын
Ian Fleming called the hero James Bond after someone he knew called James Bond in Jamaica
@DopeSauceBenevolence
@DopeSauceBenevolence Жыл бұрын
Regarding the hardcovers themselves - I see that you have a full set of Jonathan Capes first runs - but they all look to be different sizes... why did they do that?
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder Жыл бұрын
I just checked, and the books are all nearly the same size. They're all the same height (7.5 inches), although the dust jackets on some of the books might have slid up slightly when I shot the footage, and two jackets (Diamonds Are Forever and For Your Eyes Only) are slightly smaller than the rest, which could make it seem like the books are different heights. The cover widths do vary slightly by about an eighth of an inch, ranging from about 5.0 to 5.13 inches. I don't have an explanation for that variance, which might be due to cost-saving efforts or possibly loose manufacturing tolerances in the production of the front and rear boards. If you thought you saw larger differences in size among the books, it's probably because I shot the footage of the individual books from inconsistent angles and distances, making some books seem smaller than others. Thanks for your question!
@davidbaty5526
@davidbaty5526 6 ай бұрын
Great work and great voice. You should do ASMR! 🙂
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder 6 ай бұрын
Thanks! I'd never even heard of ASMR until I started this channel and started receiving comments like yours. :)
@robertroberto2487
@robertroberto2487 9 ай бұрын
Movies Ian Fleming Fans Liked 1962 Dr.No.He Loved Ursula Andress, Enjoyed FRWL.Goldfinger Seen Daily Rushes Liked It.Said Marvelous Toy Car For Kids.
@yeahweburnstuff
@yeahweburnstuff Жыл бұрын
Christopher Lee was a relative of Ian Fleming and upon whom James Bond is based. Lee's mother was an Italian countess.
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder Жыл бұрын
It's my understanding that the film producers considered casting Lee as Bond when Connery stepped down, but ultimately they decided he was too tall for the part. According to both Fleming and his biographers, the Bond character was a composite of several real persons Fleming knew during WWII (including himself). Lee might have been among them, but it's never been confirmed. Thanks for watching!
@ukmenon13
@ukmenon13 5 ай бұрын
If i am not mistaken the countess was from the Carandini family!. Lee’s mother was Estelle Marie Carandini of the Marquises of Sarzano (1889-1981). Her mother was the granddaughter of an Italian politician, Girolamo Carandini, 10th Marquess of Sarzano (1803-1870. As a matter of fact Lee’s full name & title is Sir Christopher Frank Carandini Lee (1922-2015).🙏
@michaelproctor8100
@michaelproctor8100 2 ай бұрын
According to The James Bond Bedside Companion by Raymond Benson, Ian Fleming cannot be blamed for the way The Man With The Golden Gum turned out. Fleming died before he could revise, polish and add the rich detail he always incorporated after he had completed the first draft. Glidrose Productions finished the book for him and released it posthumously in 1965. Likewise, Glidrose cannot be blamed for the weak book, they were obligated to publish the book Fleming's fans were entitled to learn what happens to their hero since You Only Live Twice ends with a cliffhanger.
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing that tidbit!
@aaronsmith5363
@aaronsmith5363 3 ай бұрын
I wish he had written more like my favorite, For Your Eyes Only.
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder 3 ай бұрын
It's unfortunate that Fleming didn't write more Bond short stories. I think some of them are quite good (including For Your Eyes Only). Fleming used short stories to try out different story ideas and narrative forms and techniques, some of which worked well, while others are probably best described as failed experiments.
@obsidiansky1863
@obsidiansky1863 Жыл бұрын
New Elric novel is now out!
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder Жыл бұрын
Great! I hope to have my next Eternal Champion video up later this month.
@stylinnfreaky
@stylinnfreaky 4 ай бұрын
My favourite film is from Russia with love. My new year resolution is to collect n read the novels
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder 4 ай бұрын
Great resolution!
@joelkirkwood8224
@joelkirkwood8224 7 ай бұрын
Maud Adams character in the movie specifically recounts the short story Octopussy. She’s supposed to be that traitor’s daughter. I always thought that was neat. I liked the LALD and YOLT a little more than you did. I liked Goldfinger (both the book and the movie) a little less than you did. But otherwise that’s a good breakdown of their merits.
@andrewdavidson631
@andrewdavidson631 5 ай бұрын
Perhaps you should add a tier ranking of Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. :-)
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder 5 ай бұрын
Nice one! The film version would win my vote.
@DragonZlayerx12
@DragonZlayerx12 Күн бұрын
Imagine if he got a few more years and a few more books. James Bond gets an ending, and so would Ian as they spend the last little bit of time the have relaxing
@joeyfiuza
@joeyfiuza 8 ай бұрын
Strange how a lot of Youtubbers and other people are saying that Fleming is really patriotic. Never found that in his biography and even in the Bond novels, the main character seems to be a bit detached from all this so called loyalty. Sometimes he even conviced himself. Granted, he likes and understands his superior, M, but it sounds that his loyalty stops there. I really wonder where peope find so much patriotism. To me Fleming is more than toying with it and in the end accepting the fall of the Empire with a smirky smile. The real purppose is symbolic. 16:22 The injuries for example, are not a proof of loyalty (by the way : why would it be ? Where the link between the two things ?) but are a variety of symbols and references to psychology, sex or spirituality. For more on that, you can read The Biography of Fleming by Andrew Lycett and The Bond Code. Good day.
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the thoughtful comment! I believe Bond's loyalty to the crown and to doing his duty on its behalf is largely inferred from his frequently stoic and unquestioning acceptance of the missions he's assigned and the hazards they pose (and impose). He doesn't really complain about his injuries and goes right back to work after each mission. Thus, he shows his loyalty not through 'rah, rah' patriotic cheerleading, but rather through his actions in steadfastly doing his duty, all of which is consistent with his relatively taciturn nature.
@iangillham9647
@iangillham9647 Жыл бұрын
I read all the Bond novels in a fortnight when I was a kid…as a result I can not identify what happens in each individual book. I’ve never felt any necessity to revisit them…
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder Жыл бұрын
Completely understandable. I made this video as a kind of roadmap for people who are familiar with the films, but have never read the books and might have an interest in trying them.
@BenSHammonds
@BenSHammonds 8 ай бұрын
enjoy reading and rereading the novels, go back in time to the post war era, is grand to me, has always been. Do wish they would make the films and set them retro to the correct time period, would be fun. Fleming, like A Conan Doyle, and myself, was a Gemini, that counts for a lot in his life story :) Fleming was before his time in the fact he created a Global Terrorist Group, which in this day and time we are used to the idea, but then it was very new, a group, neither a Govt or Govt action but an independent evil that was working behind the scenes. I disagree with you on several points, but the short story Quantum of Solace was very good and highly intelligent, a foray into human nature and expectation, was a top thought provoker. The Spy Who Loved Me was wonderful, in that is showed Bond for what he really was, a shadow in the night, a prof. killer, and he went into action in the book after walking into the situation. He understood immediately what was going on and the bad guys had no idea at all what had just walked into their midst, a wolf among hounds, book was great. I very much enjoyed The Man With the Golden Gun, was far better than the film, I enjoy rereading the novel, his humanity and vulnerablity, the simple setting of the story line, it all feels very authentic to the 1960s as I recall many things, and at this point the character of Bond had been active for longer amount of time than he would have been, normally by age 35 they would be beginning to do much less field work, and at this time in life he was more like a well used and abused man in early 40s
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your perspective. We each respond differently to and find enjoyment in different aspects of the stories.
@BenSHammonds
@BenSHammonds 8 ай бұрын
certainly so, which makes it quite enjoyable, I like to immerse myself in the time period of what ever book Im reading, totally and completely, such as Sherlock Holmes or Ivanhoe lol@@thelibraryladder
@canceresbunny
@canceresbunny Жыл бұрын
I liked the "James Bond was a tool" thumbnail better. 😂
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder Жыл бұрын
I liked it better too, but this one has generated a much better viewer click-through rate. This was one of my worst performing videos until I changed the thumbnail, and since then it's performed considerably better.
@mohammedashian8094
@mohammedashian8094 6 ай бұрын
The biggest crime the franchise has ever done in my opinion is not adapting moonraker like how it was in the book (which I get that the technology in the book by 1979 has become kinda outdated but they could’ve done something less outrageous) because I think it’s the best or at least my favourite one because bond is fleshed out and we know more about him and his relationship with M and how he goes on with day to day life and that he reads files and does office work I’m gonna repeat that files and paperwork this is a bond we’ve never seen before plus I think some secret service members would say that’s somewhat realistic that civil servants like bond would actually be in the office most of the times and that he would be lucky to have an assignment which he gets only 2 or 3 times a year and gets paid in 1954 money only £1500. We have what I consider my favourite Bond girl gala brand and how good she was at her job just the same as bond and she drives the plot forward at some points in the story and she was the one who found out that the moonraker is actually a nuclear weapon aimed at London and she suggested to bond that they reset it to where it originally supposed to land when bond’s idea was to lock her in drax’s office to keep her safe and stand underneath the rocket and blow himself up and the rocket. The ending I’m sure surprised a lot of readers where bond does NOT get the girl because she’s already taken which was hinted earlier but was thought of by bond to be a way of telling drax to back off but as it turns out she IS in fact engaged. To me she was proof that bond is not the misogynistic sexist everyone thinks he is nor is Fleming (I mean yeah I know and understand that they said some unflattering things but I’ve always been an actions speak louder than words person and so his writing with her proves that assumption wrong he could’ve easily not written her the way he did but he did and it turned out wonderfully and so did some Bond girls later on who were not done justice in the movies) I mean literally bond is impressed and admiring of her when he talked to her boss and read her file. Another thing I love about this is Fleming’s journalistic style of writing at the time it has been only nine years since the war ended and 13 or 14 years since the blitz happened (which was a reminder to the UK that they are not safe from Germany’s attacks as they thought they were) so it makes sense why the public would be supportive of Hugo drax because at the time the British public was afraid of German v2 rockets being fired on them. We get introduced to his Scottish housekeeper may who doesn’t talk in this but in future novels she does, his secretary lobelia ponsonby who’s flirting and sexual tension were transferred to moneypenny in the movies which is somewhat funny because in the books moneypenny is actually her best friend in the building. And that it was set entirely in England of which was a complaint with readers but I personally LOVED it and it reminds people that Fleming and by extension bond pride themselves on being British. Long story short (or long story long in this case😂) I love this one so much and it shows how much Fleming loved writing it because it’s referenced in future Fleming books as a callback
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing that great and insightful comment! You made some great points.
@Leo-sd3jt
@Leo-sd3jt 3 ай бұрын
Sounds like you might want to check out the Harry Palmer movies and also the tv show The Sandbaggers
@PaulVandersypen
@PaulVandersypen 5 ай бұрын
Ian Fleming prohibited EON Productions from adapting The Spy Who Loved Me faithfully, let alone any smaller parts of the novel. He recognized the experiment as a failure, so the rights to the book were limited to the title and nothing else. We will never see Vivien Michelle, the hotel, the mobsters, the plot, or other details in film until the negotiated deal expires, which is in 2064, 100 years after Fleming's death.
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder 5 ай бұрын
I didn't realize Fleming barred the use of the original source material in the film. Thanks for sharing that nugget!
@PaulVandersypen
@PaulVandersypen 5 ай бұрын
@@thelibraryladder It is possible that with copyright laws in the UK, the novel might go to the public domain before the deal expires, in which case EON Productions, if the company is still making 007 movies, could adapt the novel without technically violating the license deal for the book. However, I am not a lawyer, so don't take my word for it.
@skraegorn7317
@skraegorn7317 5 ай бұрын
I know it's not the most polished Bond novel but personally "The Man with the Golden Gun" is one of my favorites. It's the last Fleming bond story chronologically, and it reads like a swansong for the character where he's out to settle one last score with the assassin who's been killing other Secret Service agents. The film adaptation is just unfortunate considering how grounded the book is. Scaramanga's gun is just a gold-plated Colt .45, there's no energy crisis subplot, no giant evil lair, nothing. The character of Mary Goodnight is also way better-written, she's highly intelligent, if not more intelligent than Bond.
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing! Although "Golden Gun" isn't one of my favorite Bond novels, I agree with you completely that Mary Goodnight is a much more interesting character in the book than in the film.
@adrianpetyt9167
@adrianpetyt9167 Жыл бұрын
Regarding Octopussy, in the film, Octopussy herself thanks Bond for his tact in handling his mission to arrest her traitor father, presumably the subject of the short story.
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder Жыл бұрын
That's a good catch of a subtle nod to the original short story. Thanks for sharing it.
@The1976spirit
@The1976spirit 8 ай бұрын
Ian fleming in half profile looks like Maurizio Pollini
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder 8 ай бұрын
You're right! The similarities in their noses and mouths, in particular, are striking.
@janetandalnelson5367
@janetandalnelson5367 4 ай бұрын
Your voice is so mellow, it almost puts me to sleep.
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder 4 ай бұрын
You might try increasing the playback speed. :D
@ricardocantoral7672
@ricardocantoral7672 Жыл бұрын
Live and Let Die is a troublesome read. I think as a pulp thriller it's highly effective and thrilling and the final action set piece is the best Fleming ever created. Yet on the other hand, there is no doubt that the story has horrid racial stereotypes. Overall, it one that basically should be skipped.
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder Жыл бұрын
I was very conflicted while reading it for the same reasons you noted, although I also think the finale subplot involving Felix was a little over-the-top. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@jmacc9876
@jmacc9876 7 ай бұрын
Lulled to sleep by this video.
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder 7 ай бұрын
Sweet dreams. :)
@lesblakeman
@lesblakeman 22 күн бұрын
Fairly compatible until "You Only Live Twice" when it went totally pear shaped
@DafyddBrooks
@DafyddBrooks Ай бұрын
I'm just gona say it.....MOONRAKER is the most wonderful movie of all time ;)
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder Ай бұрын
Given the soft spot in my heart that I have for that movie, I'm not going to argue with you. :D
@sandyhausler5290
@sandyhausler5290 10 ай бұрын
I believe you are wrong in saying that there is no connection between the movie Octopussy and the story on which it’s based, though I wouldn’t blame you for forgetting it or not noticing it at all. “Octopussy” was the daughter of the traitorous agent Bond was after. She thanks Bond for allowing her father to commit suicide rather than go to trial (or whatever England was going to do with him). Otherwise, you were quite correct in saying there was no connection between the book and the movie. A second quibble has to do with the TV version of Casino Royale. You said it was not faithful to the book. It’s been years since I’ve seen it, but my recollection that aside from the nationality switch (Bond being American and Leiter bring British), it was very faithful to the book. Or is that just my imagination?
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for quibbling! :) I suppose I could have said there is a slight connection between the book and movie versions of Octopussy, but the connection was contrived solely for the film. A daughter nicknamed Octopussy isn't a character in the book, while a real octopus is. II agree that the 1954 TV version of Casino Royale is reasonably faithful to the plot of the book (setting aside the nationality changes), but it's not very faithful to the book's tone, in my opinion. Bond in the TV version comes across as a bland, run-of-the-mill government agent foiling the dastardly plans of nefarious communists (following a template used at the time by many B-movies and studios afraid of Joseph McCarthy). Missing is the book's exploration of Bond's psyche and the complex interplay of duty, aggression, recklessness, hedonism and casual cruelty that drive his actions. Bond is the most interesting aspect of the book, but the qualities that make him interesting are largely ignored or treated superficially in the TV version. (At least, that was my reaction upon watching it.)
@sandyhausler5290
@sandyhausler5290 10 ай бұрын
@@thelibraryladder With regard to Octopussy, I might have been more precise by saying that the movie has an Easter egg connection to the original story. It's like the screenwriter read the story, hoping to mine whatever he could from it. Finding nothing, he wrote his own "original" story, but slipped in the Easter egg, something only major fans of the Bond books would be likely to catch, as a nod to Fleming. Still, it was worth mentioning. As to Casino Royale, I have not seen the 1954 TV version in decades, but my recollection is that it was faithful to the plot of the book (with the exception of the nationality switch), which you acknowledge. I certainly won't argue that the TV movie was better than the book. I'd say that most of the Bond books are better than the movies (though I do enjoy the movies, for the most part. I agree that Moonraker was among the worst, if not the worst.) I have pulled together a number of my paperback copies of the James Bond books for a re-read, but they're down on the queue behind other things I want to read, including a couple of Guy Gavriel Kay books, which I pulled from the library shelves on you recommendation. Enjoying your videos. Keep it up.
@TheBldutton
@TheBldutton Ай бұрын
this was pretty good, but the guy didn't really pay attention to the books, or just got lazy in the presentation here. He got a lot of stuff wrong, especially You Only Live Twice.
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder Ай бұрын
Perhaps you could be more specific in your criticism. A broad generalization about getting things “wrong” isn’t a very useful critique and could be characterized as lazy. :) I (re)read all of the books shortly before making this video. Also, the video isn’t intended to be a detailed discussion of the books. Instead, its purpose is to build greater awareness of and interest in the books among viewers who aren’t already familiar with them. Thus, since you’ve already read the books, you aren’t its target audience.
@TheBldutton
@TheBldutton Ай бұрын
I can't be more specific about everything I noticed over a 38 minute video without a re watch, but like I mentioned, you got the mission wrong in the novel You Only Live Twice. It was not a mission involving the Garden of Death, but a diplomatic mission to open an intelligence stream from the Japanese Secret Service. Moonraker did not involve a nuclear explosion, and Drax was building the rocket (an early ICBM) ostensibly for England when he really intended to drop it on London. The problem it caused on the cliffs of Dover was from it's exhaust, not a detonation. I supposed it perturbed me because as a lifelong fan of James Bond, I see these "TV guide" like blurbs about the media that are almost correct, but not quite. And I see them frequently. This is not to say that I did not enjoy your presentation and found some interesting insights. It's just if you intend to make a presentation in a learned fashion, it would be prudent to get the subject material correct. @@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder
@thelibraryladder Ай бұрын
Respectfully, I think you're splitting hairs unnecessarily. You seem to have missed the purpose of the video. As I mentioned in my earlier comment, this is a video aimed at people who haven't read the books and might have only a casual knowledge of the films. My discussion of each book in the video is akin to a movie trailer -- teasing viewers with hints, suggestions and snippets of information and potentialities that might encourage them to read the books, but not so much that it becomes confusing or spoils the plot. The criticisms you cited seem to fall into the category of failure on my part to provide sufficiently detailed information or context about the plots of the books. That was an intentional choice on my part, because I think it serves the video's intended audience better. For example, as you said, Bond's stated assignment in YOLT is a bureaucratic one -- to liaise and strengthen ties with the JSS -- but that mission _does_ lead him to infiltrate the Garden of Death. Which of those actions by Bond is potentially more exciting and appealing to someone who's never read a Bond book but might be enticed to try? What purpose would it have served my intended viewers if I had provided that additional contextual information about the JSS (along with similar, peripheral details for all of the other books)? Instead of being 38 minutes long, my video would have been closer to an hour long, which likely would have deterred many viewers from watching it. As I stated, my goal is to encourage more people to read Fleming's Bond books. I'm sorry that the video isn't what you think it should be, but it was never aimed at lifelong Bond fans such as you. There are other KZfaq channels that cater to Bond afficionados. I strive to reach readers who aren't already familiar with the subjects of my videos.
@TheBldutton
@TheBldutton Ай бұрын
I think you are taking my criticism just a little too hard. I praised your video from the start, but I think the error that you made in describing Moonraker probably irked me more than any, in that you used your description as a criticism of the book and that incident didn't happen in the book. But let's be friends, ok? I appreciate what you have done here, and if it inspires others to read the Bond series, not only Fleming's works but those that follow then I will be happy. Particularly Benson and Horowitz, excellent books. Gardner, not so much. Let me thank you for your presentation and apologize if I offended you by splitting hairs. @@thelibraryladder
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