With ya

moral booster.

Same

Can’t do without safety gears sadly

You love something else

You learned to ride a bike at 40 years old?

Yeah, women athletes don't have to look like they are starving to death. Physically fit women are actually hot!

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Mary Poppins not everybody has the same good genetics, it's harder for some to lose weight through exercise while also a lot easier to put weight on when eating, even healthy foods. Especially in a world where individual dietary knowledge is intentionally repressed by the food industry, especially in America.

+Mary Poppins I thought she was really cute. I think she has a great figure. She just has a larger frame maybe. I like her energy and enthusiasm for our sport. I see all shapes of very keen cyclists..men and women.

Who cares. I'm doughy and I love riding. Passion is passion, regardless of how much one fits the stereotype. It appears you've missed the point of this talk.

Ten years ago people didn't think Serena Williams should be a serious tennis player either.

+rstevewarmorycom Working up to it slowly is the trick. Off road riding can be very safe if you take the time to hone your skills and not take unnecessary risks. For me yeah you might have an injury here or there but on the road you are either totally safe or totally dead. I have lost too many fellow riders on the road and come too close to losing my own life in a road accident with a car to not appreciate that fact.

+Chris Babb Everybody *I* know who got seriously hurt did it off-road. Too much unknown surface, blind snares for wheels, ditches that throw you over the bars. Bicycles and motorcycles are meant for smooth roads.

I've ridden thousands of miles on trails over the years and never had a major accident (knock on wood). These accidents happen of course, but I know plenty of people who are seriously injured on the road as well. Most professional road racers have broken their collar bones a time or two. But of all the injuries I have ever been aquainted with in cycling the only deaths were on the road and not all of them were caused by cars. Narrower tires and much much higher speeds for the average rider equal much bigger wrecks. Throw cars into the mix and the combination starts to turn deadly. According to the CDC 900 cyclists were killed in the US in 2013 and the majority of those deaths occured in ubran areas. Riding motorcycles on the street is by far the most dangerous way to travel. Off road riding takes skill and there is a huge variety of off road riding, ranging from simple dirt roads to rocky downhill. It is important to recognize your own skill level and ride within your limits. Those who have lost significant coordination may not want to ride off road and you can always add additional safety equipment to handle innevitable falls. Your right accidents can happen off road and they are likely more common than on the road but the consequences are usually much less severe. So for recreational riding I will keep it largely off pavement. I commute on the road everyday though because cycling by and large is pretty darn safe.

Chris Babb I dunno, I've had most of my damaged shoulders (crunchy now - torn rotator cuffs) in bicycle accidents without the involvement of cars, just because I tried to stay out of the way of cars and ran into holes. I haven't really had a bad motorcycle drop that I couldn't get up and ride away form. And I've been riding a motorcycle for 45 years! The bad rap motorcycles get is from the young, dumb, full of cum morons who try to buy a big powerful bike with no long experience with them and act like a hell's angel, weaving at high speeds through traffic when all someone would have to do is open a door and they're dead. They don't know how to counter-steer yet, they try to lean it, and they run off the road on a curve down into a ditch and get hurt and are not found till they're dead. If you drive a motorcycle like you would your Dad's high mpg everyday car, and if you start with small bikes and work up you won't likely ever die or even get hurt bad. If you don't trust anybody you'll be safe. I tell people, stay the hell away from other cars on a motorcycle, a fender-bender can kill you! Let them HAVE the right of way even if they didn't! Stay back and don't be nuts. The survivors like me who are riding a motorcycle every day at age 66 all know this.

I agree with you whole heartedly. I love motorcycles as does most of my family but overall more people die on motorcycles per 1000 miles than any other form of transportation. Part of that is due to what you have described but it is certainly exageratted by the cars and the high speeds attainable on the road. That's just a fact. I also agree that if you gain the experience and ride responsibly they are not as dangerous which is exactly what I said about off road riding. And unfortunately even the most experience get killed by some jerk who pulls out in front of them (bicycles and motorcycles). Such is life. Most of what you are saying about riding a motorcycle can be applied to road riding as well. Both on and off road takes skill and maturity to be safe and those are simply two different skill sets. I simply want people to understand that and to fear niether.