The Jujutsu Kaisen Death Problem...

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Radman

Radman

4 ай бұрын

How do you feel about death in Jujutsu Kaisen?
Yuki Character Analysis: • Yuki is much more impo...
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@R7dman
@R7dman 4 ай бұрын
I've seen all the comments about the spoilers in the thumbnails, I didn't think it was that much of a big deal when I first uploaded the video but you guys have convinced me that I made a mistake. I've changed the thumbnail to something less "spoilery", which is definitely hard to gauge since there is no uniform position on what that means. I hope that suffices & my bad to anybody who I may have spoiled. Thanks again for watching everybody
@1BlueRozez1
@1BlueRozez1 4 ай бұрын
Better to have caught and changed it now, than to have just shrugged and left it there. Thank you 🙏
@JoshQwerty
@JoshQwerty 4 ай бұрын
Don't worry, I think the only real big spoiler in the OG thumbnail was: *spoilers below* Yuki... I was gonna say Gojo, but who and their mother hasn't been spoiled by the JJK fanbase on that front... i mean shit I was spoiled the day the leaks dropped of that chapter, and i was still at the Sakurajima Colony section of the CG 😭
@Backup-sl7xc
@Backup-sl7xc 4 ай бұрын
I'm glad you did change it because my brother who's watching the anime doesn't know anything that's happening in the manga and who dies. I get that some of the deaths are pretty old now but besides from Nobara and Nanami they're aren't in the anime, which is where most of the new fans are coming from.
@zdiego
@zdiego 4 ай бұрын
Even if you still think the same, it’s great to see that you care about what we say
@Dudex11a
@Dudex11a 4 ай бұрын
The thumbnail is nice!
@thatguy779
@thatguy779 4 ай бұрын
Honestly, the only thing that sort of slightly cheapens some of the deaths in the series is just that so many of them feel like they happen one after another and a lot of them don’t get a period to just dwell on that loss.
@scumpergumper
@scumpergumper 4 ай бұрын
I would agree if 1. their arcs weren't explored even beyond their death, nobara doesn't count because shes probably not dead lol but even then, her whole character was expanded apoun and was given a fitting end and 2. If shibuya arc was literally an entire war and the culling games is a battle royale. Its different when geto by himself storms jujutsu high, because it isnt a team full of special grade curses and the king of curses themselves Sukuna wrecking shit, I will say though, alot of the deaths just felt like gege didn't know what to do with the characters and wanted to replace them, like todo, like nobara, like nanami but atleast he gives them a fitting end before he replaces them.
@scumpergumper
@scumpergumper 4 ай бұрын
Todo dont die but you know what i mean.
@log5531
@log5531 4 ай бұрын
I think that's kind of the point. You're not really supposed to dwell on it, the characters don't either. Death in jjk is very rarely seen as a negative thing, as choso said "death is the final and greatest transformation," that's how most jjk characters view death. Not as something to be feared, but a transition. It's part of being a sorcerer and expecting people who have grappled with death and curses for their entire life to respond to death the same way we do is unrealistic imo. Gojo, Nanami, higuruma, all of these people have "positive" experiences with death where they learn about themselves, because death is simply a final transformation and not a "loss" if that makes sense.
@jfoster8624
@jfoster8624 4 ай бұрын
​@@log5531well said
@thelegacyofgaming2928
@thelegacyofgaming2928 4 ай бұрын
@@log5531 Well then that's what we call bad writing. If the consumer does not care about the character you killed, or didn't even have time to think about it, then it is going to be received negatively. Gege has a popular series, but it is not because of character arcs or how death is written. He even admitted that his series only became popular once he drew handsome Gojo. JJK reminds me a lot of Demon Slayer, in a sense that the writing is not good, but their are enough hype moments that keep people watching.
@kingoftropes922
@kingoftropes922 4 ай бұрын
I think the death issue is actually a symptom of the greater problem people have with the story: it doesn’t take the time to fully explore itself. While other historically long shonen have had their own issues they don't often feel as unexplained as JJK often does. There are countless dedicated avenues of duscussion just based around questions you would assume the story would have a pretty direct answer for. I think the best example of JJK's lack of exploration is the month after Gojo is released and countless characters from all parts and eras of the story come together, some for the first time in hundreds of chapters, so many things to be said, so many interactions to have, so much story to have And it all gets skipped. Now obviously we've gotten the most relevant flashbacks from that time when necessary but thats almost besides the point. Even if you want to argue none of the other interactions during that month were ultimately unnecessarily , not taking the time to explore *any* of all those variously characters and plot points coming together for a full month in such a specific circumstance is deeply narratively unsatisfying, which is why any of rampant, seeming out nowhere deaths worth. Now you could argue that that lack of satisfaction is the point but 1. Just because you do something on purpose does not mean its a good choice and 2. You can have a deeply tragic narrative that is still very much narratively satisfying. Acting like they're diametrically opposed or that its unnecessary is a disservice to authors who balance the line. Even if their arcs weren't *complete*, them ending with death is acceptable for both the impact it had on the story and how it wrapped up the character. Kenjaku's death is just the culmination of this mindset of treating the story and what it's built up so flippiantly because this is someone who is basically why 90% of the story even happens and we truly know maybe 10% at best about him and his impact and motives and they basically got unceremoniously merked like they were barely relevant. Its nothing new to the series at all but its the prime example of why this mentality in writing is just as flawed as not killing any characters if not more so because while a dead character can still have a major effective on the narrative, a living character will always inherently be able to do more and fullfill that potential.
@Juryoku113
@Juryoku113 4 ай бұрын
There's nothing wrong with the timeskip. They had devised a plan on how to approach the battle which was intentionally kept hidden from the readers cuz then there would be no suspense if we know everything about their plans. The only major interaction we saw of Gojo was with the principal, it was important because it shows the character development for the principal. Expecting Gojo to react to Nobara's death is redundant cuz its not the first time Gojo had lost a student. He is very insensitive to death cuz he has lived his entire life as a sorcerer and death is nothing new. EVerything is consistent with so far and that has never changed. We may get his interactions with the students but only when the time is right, when does said interactions make more sense to the context of whats going in the manga at that time.
@epicanime009
@epicanime009 4 ай бұрын
I really could not have said this bwtter myself, agree 100%. While i still love jjk and its fast pacing makes it an enjoyable weekly experience, i feel like it's a double edge sword where gege writes as if he's only conveying bare minimum information we need to know and trimming things that serve to invest viewers emotionally like character interactions and introspection which in turn always feel like im expecting to see more from the characters and being dissapointed. Im not gonna say he a complete failure at showing those things cause i believe he did an amazing job with dynamics/developments like yuji and megumi, but it just always feels like their should be more which is a feeling i never get from other series where the characters purposely die "unsatisfyingly" like aot, demon slayer and csm.
@epicanime009
@epicanime009 4 ай бұрын
​@@Juryoku113see, and thats the issue for real. Everything you said came from a place of logic, but a story isnt always just going from plot point to plot point, its about the emotion you build too. I dont mind the time skip because like you said it keeps surprises, but before it there shouldve been some chapters of us seeing everybody come together (since they was apart the entirely of the culling games and barely know each other) and a gojo reuinion chapter. All those hard fought battles the students went through to free him and the series couldnt spare 1 full chapter dedicated to their reactions to his return, which is more unsatisfying since we know now that was the last time we could see gojo outside of a fight.
@Juryoku113
@Juryoku113 4 ай бұрын
@@epicanime009 Like I said we will get those interactions when the time is right and when those character interactions hold significance at that time. Gege didn't want to break the tempo post his sealing and that makes sense. If we never get those interactions then yeah it would be a valid criticism.
@starwberryboy
@starwberryboy 4 ай бұрын
​@@epicanime009To be fair gege tries(the short story before shibuya) but its the most bare minimum.
@djibreezy
@djibreezy 4 ай бұрын
Kenny’s death kinda mirrors Yuki’s imo. Characters with opposing philosophies unable to see the future they desire but passing on their will.
@Grayson-Winchester
@Grayson-Winchester 4 ай бұрын
The thing is Todo never received Yuki's will
@djibreezy
@djibreezy 4 ай бұрын
i’m still mad about it, she was fine as hell 😔
@guccipucci3941
@guccipucci3941 4 ай бұрын
@@Grayson-Winchesteryuji did through her book I guess
@StarkTony113
@StarkTony113 4 ай бұрын
The only thing that mirrors Kenny's death is Gege' laziness in writing a good story.
@sleepking2565
@sleepking2565 4 ай бұрын
@@StarkTony113it kinda just feels like in todays shonen mangakas are trying to rush through stories and have a good series for like five years vs making a long running series. Idk if that’s just me but that just seems like what’s been happening a lot recently
@misstalia6989
@misstalia6989 4 ай бұрын
It feels rushed, and the problem with those deaths is... there is a line that was crossed and when it happend they have started to loose their meaning. Now it is one big meme. Also many characters were killed before their chance to shine - there were so many ideas and interaction cut because Gege dicided that it is time to end somebody (too soon). So - it was good and shocking at first, now it is just flustrating and meaningless.
@youraveragepersonwalkingth6850
@youraveragepersonwalkingth6850 3 ай бұрын
JJK is the only comic where the main character isn’t even the protagonist trope is down right
@user-dh7sm9zh9e
@user-dh7sm9zh9e 3 ай бұрын
Not everyone needs to shine
@saturna1576
@saturna1576 3 ай бұрын
@@user-dh7sm9zh9e Yes. But the problem is nobody is or was "shining"
@TheJefferson1998
@TheJefferson1998 3 ай бұрын
​@satuinrna1576 very few shines in death, only Gojo did when he died the first time agianst toji and gained enlightenment. BUT I feel like that could be a point in the series I don't like that gege is writing himsellf into a corner.
@dertanlee6510
@dertanlee6510 3 ай бұрын
I kinda love this ,you won t survive a strong opponent just because you have more to give to the story ,thats what happened to nobara,ryu,higuaruma,kashimo... Unlike other shonen where madara won t finish sasuke cause the character is important and he come back to fight him ,shigaraki doesn t finish bakugo end up killing his master...
@CM-ck4nl
@CM-ck4nl 4 ай бұрын
I'd call the story's use of death 'wasteful' because at the end of the day, I have only so much investment I'm willing to give. If you start putting all my favorite characters on the chopping block, I'm not gonna care ONE BIT about how the story ends. Why would I, when the whole cast I grew to appreciate is in the ground. His skill with characters and writing relationships is really his best quality as a writer and squandering that to prove a point about death is the true waste imo.
@helheim4704
@helheim4704 4 ай бұрын
i agree with this i much preferred jjk like a year and a half ago when the culling games was going on because the fights and characters were so good as soon as gojo died i was like okay so now sukuna already the strongest has a attack that can one hit anybody? and when i saw him fighting everyone else after he went crazy on kashimo with world cleave and the giant ass net cleave i realized sukuna isn't trying against anyone, like with what he did to kashimo he can do that to every other character when ever he wants to but didn't, and its crazy to me that so many jjk fans were surprised to see that uraume her self said sukuna doesn't care about his opponents, at this point if sukuna loses i feel like its just an ass pull of an ending like how are gojos students supposed to win if gojo couldn't and gojo literally told hakari and yuta not to go out unless gojo gets down to there level, i also dont mind if characters die but at least let them do cool shit and go out with a bang like kashimo was hyped up for almost 2 years and he gets clapped instantly same with yuki
@ShaneED07
@ShaneED07 4 ай бұрын
I agree with you 100%. After I noticed the pattern of using then discarding characters, I stopped investing in them. At this point, most people are just looking forward to Yujis' power-up and Sukuna's defeat.
@BrianTorres-theRunner
@BrianTorres-theRunner 3 ай бұрын
yuji's not getting a powerup. Gege hates him almsot as much as he did Gojo. This is Sukuna Kaisen now so brace for an ending where the villains win...@@ShaneED07
@user-dh7sm9zh9e
@user-dh7sm9zh9e 3 ай бұрын
I disagree your favorite characters shouldn't have favoritism from the author
@Zakari-0
@Zakari-0 3 ай бұрын
@@user-dh7sm9zh9e it’s not really favoritism, it’s more of the fact that these characters were characters that we knew, characters that we saw story’s get fleshed out and so we care like Nanami for example his death was pretty impactful and it show that he survived his purpose and that was it. With characters that we don’t know well enough just go up and die and it’s a recurring pattern for all of them to die well you can see why we don’t really care for them
@Tojiii
@Tojiii 4 ай бұрын
The only thing Gege is predictable about protecting is Sukuna... But yeah, other than that, Gege is unpredictable.
@BrianTorres-theRunner
@BrianTorres-theRunner 3 ай бұрын
Gege gave sukuna all the plot armor in the world because he hated Gojo, an op character... effectively making Sukuna the most OP character lmao. And now supposedly Gojo's death and Kashimo + higurama etc. were for nothing because he's "not even trying". Truly one of the series of all time.
@tayo0404
@tayo0404 3 ай бұрын
He's predictably unpredictable.
@TheAzozoi
@TheAzozoi 3 ай бұрын
@@BrianTorres-theRunner yeah he hated Gojo so much that he.... made Toji not finish him off for some weird reason? And made everyone, narrator included, glaze him to no end at every occasion? And gave him some of the coolest moments in the manga? And gave him the design of of the protagonists of his previous oneshots? And also, he gave a painful and early death to his favorite character (Nanami) so the argument that he makes characters suffer based on how much he likes/dislikes them is invalid?
@This-didnt-make-us-friends
@This-didnt-make-us-friends 3 ай бұрын
​@@TheAzozoibut then you have Gojo death just be... Nothing, literally, we have nothing, almost as if he didn't even written that part, because after his death, is almost said to the exhausting point that "sukuna was holding back" like, everything Gojo did, how Gojo literally cleaned the floor with him, just for him to pull "nah, sukuna used just his 0.000001%, Gojo was a bug bigger than others, lol", even worse, what now? If Gojo, that had literally 60 times more stats than everyone on the team, got cooked with such casualty, who are we supposed to trust now? F*cking Miguel? That got absolutely cooked by a weaker gojo?
@michaelsexton8383
@michaelsexton8383 3 ай бұрын
@@BrianTorres-theRunnerbro plot armor he had built sukuna since the beginning and how he should never be released lmao and gojo in typical fashion “I’d win” believe it Naruto style and got bodied get over it even the fucking disaster curses were shook and wanted to cancel the summoning besides Kenjaku and jogo
@HaemdYT
@HaemdYT 4 ай бұрын
Agreed with the ending particularly with how out of character it feels like for Kenjaku to have lied about dying if he does comeback, but then again if he is dead fr then this doesn’t feel like him either as you put it
@Dark_Mastermc
@Dark_Mastermc 4 ай бұрын
I want the former, I don't care if he lied, he can't die like this!
@VODYJOLMS
@VODYJOLMS 4 ай бұрын
Okay....hear me out hear me out...in defense of Gege...could it not "feel like him" because this is actually Geto? It fits into his idealist mindset more and there's also the thematic link with comedy/Takaba and the strange laughter we hear from him at the end of Shibuya arc where he says "Oh sorry. I was beginning to sound like him" if I recall right.
@bu11ymaguire
@bu11ymaguire 4 ай бұрын
I have a conclusion of it all. If you wanna read. first of all, kenjaku died to yuta. And second it elevates kenjaku in story. The second to satoru gojo sneaked up to kill him. It is upto interpretation now how kenjaku with his OP cts would have fared against the good side which elevates him more. And his whole schtick was just planning out of curiosity and to have a position as a curse. So him dying because he didn't saw some plan coming is fitting. He's not some dude that is about strength that he has to go as a fighter. He's just running around doing mischief. There is no arc to be portrayed here and I am glad we got this instead of another 1v1 or 1v2.. It keeps kenjaku up in my eyes and doesn't defile yuki's death. Also it sets up yuta as a cold fighter who just get things done with no talking and risks. Also more engaging and realistic theme. I would have liked to see garbhadhatu in action but this narrative is more fitting.
@oh-seecreations6308
@oh-seecreations6308 4 ай бұрын
@@VODYJOLMS why does it have to be geto? i really hate how geto fans attribute everything kenjaku does to geto especially when they're distinct characters and geto's soul has long passed on from his body. not to mention that it really doesnt make sense in the context of this fight; kenjaku was able to form an emotional connection with takaba because he was equally lonely, having lost the one person hes been obssessed with proving wrong for centuries (tengen), and takaba fulfilled his requirements for being his friend that allowed him to be a bit more vulnerable and sincere than he normally would. the fact that kenjaku likes comedy makes sense for his character since he's an intellectual who values novelty and appreciates a good challenge (and also we've been seeing him goof off since season 1).
@alshahriar6230
@alshahriar6230 4 ай бұрын
Gojo fans: first time?
@MineShackle
@MineShackle 4 ай бұрын
This video just comes off as you saying "well gege intended it to be that way" intention or not, gege fails at making fully developed fully realized characters before unceremoniously killing them off. there are plenty of tragic characters in shonen, but before they can be tragic, theyre CHARACTERS first. Yuki wasnt allowed to be a character in the present before just dying pointlessly. What's the point of establishing her relationship to Todo if they dont even interact once? Tsumiki isnt even a character and we're supposed to care that she's killed? Nobara who was the main heroine of the series, atleast initially, is sidelined for most of the manga then killed in shibuya before making ANY semblance of an impact on the story. The problem with the characters in the series is Gege writes them to serve the plot, not the story. What do I mean by that? The plot is the point A point B planning of things, the story is the story. Yuki's death helps the plot because it allows Kenjaku to get Tengu which is important, but what does it do for the story? Kill of a super hyped sorcerer with apparent massive influence and impact on the world and the future. And Im guessing you think because they're using her book now that makes things better lmfao.
@PinkFriess
@PinkFriess 4 ай бұрын
Yesss someone gets it my problem with the series is that it goes so fast on fights and plot that you barely have time know the characters so who cares if theyre dead, with the shibuya arc I loved nanamis death cause we really got to kmow him his character finished on a nice note and he was a good development point for yuji and then nobara we got to know her in the present but they kept teasing about her past to just kill her and put a flashback which just feels so lazy
@zestytriss5282
@zestytriss5282 3 ай бұрын
Yaaaaaasss I am so tired of people saying "It's realistic" BS when a character die
@petermuller9480
@petermuller9480 3 ай бұрын
🎯 Winner, winner, chicken dinner! JJK, just like ALL shounen stories nowadays, is written under intense time pressure. The author has no time to actually properly plan out where the story will go in the long term. He can only focus on the immediate problems and plotlines (which you incorrectly referred to as "plot", but whatever 🤷‍♂). I don't blame him personally for this lack of planning and foresight, but rather the industry as a whole. Nonetheless, there is the problem, that the fans of JJK (or any story for that matter) just keep claiming, that Gege knows what he is doing. It's the same as the infamous, "Trust the plan!" -line. It's simply something clueless fools say to reassure themselves, that their favourite story isn't acutally mostly improvised (WHICH IT IS!). There is no point in arguing with these delusional people. They will never understand. As time goes on they will eventually realize, that there really isn't any narrative purpose for all these deaths in JJK. Why do I know that? Again, it's because the work culture in the industry doesn't even allow for an author to sit down and give himself a couple of days or weeks, to properly lay out a longer story or narrative. It's already completely clear from what we can see in JJK now. Characters' deaths clearly don't serve a narrative purpose, but hey, let them keep lying to themselves! I don't care.
@PinkFriess
@PinkFriess 3 ай бұрын
@@petermuller9480 I mean yeah the manga workspace is awful for creators, I feel it's still fair to criticize the writing but it is right to say for the most part this arc is probably written without a clear finish line
@petermuller9480
@petermuller9480 3 ай бұрын
I completely agree with you. Regardless of the circumstances, poor writing is still poor writing at the end of the day. If the working conditions just don't allow for actually good writing, then there should be change. We both know for a fact, that that won't happen, but still..... I just find it genuinely hilarious how the JJK fans try to justify this dumb writing, by saying, that it's "subversive", because "usually almost no characters die in battle shounens". There is a reason why most authors DON'T kill off many characters. It is because doing this erases a lot of the setup, but it also gives people the feeling, that "nothing matters anyway". And that's exactly the impression that many get, concerning the sidecharacters in JJK: "They don't matter, because they'll get killed off anyway."@@PinkFriess
@DOCTOR.DEADHEAD
@DOCTOR.DEADHEAD 4 ай бұрын
I don't have an inherent problem with stories killing off a bunch of characters but it does make things really boring for me, in the sense that there's no sense of urgency anymore when I know that anyone can die at any time. I'm surprised that my favorite character has lasted as long as he has, especially since he came extremely close to dying, but I've already accepted his death as a matter of when, not if.
@richardyoung4072
@richardyoung4072 4 ай бұрын
oh okay, guess bros dead now. oh damn this guys dead now i guess.
@jaycubayo
@jaycubayo 4 ай бұрын
It really shows how balance in anything is important to be applicable. It’s so funny to me how a manga like MHA has 0 sense of urgency because of how they never have any lives at stake meanwhile with Jujutsu Kaisen people just see so many characters be killed off that it results in the same effects…
@SJLuis
@SJLuis 4 ай бұрын
​@@jaycubayoit's the speed, how fast did people die as soon as the culling game began?
@DOCTOR.DEADHEAD
@DOCTOR.DEADHEAD 4 ай бұрын
@@richardyoung4072 ?
@bailey57401
@bailey57401 4 ай бұрын
My top 2 favs got killed by the same dude 💀
@sarmadhabibkhan3036
@sarmadhabibkhan3036 3 ай бұрын
Gege is the exact opposite of Oda when it comes to writing characters. One kills everyone. The other hesitates to kill even minor and forgettable characters.
@dankerbell
@dankerbell 3 ай бұрын
toriyama was the same too, although it was more like he did kill characters, but that didn't matter anyway. i wonder how much freedom toyotaro has now and if he will be any different.
@theraikouemp4ror997
@theraikouemp4ror997 3 ай бұрын
Because Oda knows how to write characters more than Gege can do in his lifetime.
@MaxIronsThird
@MaxIronsThird 2 ай бұрын
@@dankerbell I don't think Toriyama had problems killing off characters, it's just that he wrote himself into a corner by creating an afterlife and the dragon balls.
@renansantos6533
@renansantos6533 Ай бұрын
​@@theraikouemp4ror997 Exactly. Oda knows how to write then. And i find admirable that Oda is able to give each one of his minor characters contributions to the plot even if is something minimal. Gege? Lmfao 😂😂😂😂
@angedenpeacelove_411-00
@angedenpeacelove_411-00 Ай бұрын
@@renansantos6533 Ace's death is One Piece happened like 15 years ago and yet it still way more emotional than anything Gege has ever written in JJK
@TheRockerX
@TheRockerX 4 ай бұрын
I feel like JJK is one of those shows that's massive while it's running but the constant pile up of disappointments within the fandom will kill its hype once we finally find out what Gege's end plan is
@red.4712
@red.4712 3 ай бұрын
uh no?
@arizonaranger2333
@arizonaranger2333 3 ай бұрын
@@red.4712it’s kind of happening though every where I go in the community people are talking about how they are getting burnt out by all the character killing and feel like they can’t care anymore.
@NeoZero369
@NeoZero369 3 ай бұрын
@@arizonaranger2333welcome to the point of the story… the characters in the story feel the same lol
@crazyand2099
@crazyand2099 3 ай бұрын
@@red.4712 you clearly haven't been on Jujustufolk or Jujutsushi.
@red.4712
@red.4712 3 ай бұрын
@@crazyand2099 i visit those regularly lmao and yeah people on there are just often wrong about the series but its funny
@christhechilled
@christhechilled 3 ай бұрын
Jjk should had expand on their characters more. Here’s a good question, why should I care about Yuki or Nobara if they weren’t fleshed out enough!?
@theraikouemp4ror997
@theraikouemp4ror997 3 ай бұрын
Exactly! Tell em Chris!
@NeoZero369
@NeoZero369 3 ай бұрын
@@theraikouemp4ror997you’re not suppose to truly care about their deaths … TODO explained that it’s disrespectful to dwell on it
@theraikouemp4ror997
@theraikouemp4ror997 3 ай бұрын
@@NeoZero369 Then what are we supposed to care about? This anime doesn't prove anything.
@theraikouemp4ror997
@theraikouemp4ror997 3 ай бұрын
@@NeoZero369 Everyone cares my guy! JJK has wasted most of their characters for literally unnecessary reasons!
@kiratwo4u
@kiratwo4u 3 ай бұрын
BUT THEY'RE HOT AND QUIRKY
@jjjason3755
@jjjason3755 4 ай бұрын
My boy Nanami was done DIRTY. Gege really threw 3 special grades at him in shibuya.
@Voideadd
@Voideadd 4 ай бұрын
Yeah I don't think jogo had to two-face him like that it was insult to injury 😂
@jjjason3755
@jjjason3755 4 ай бұрын
@@Voideadd its crazy that Nanami survived Jogos attack, Mahito had to appear just to finish him
@thelegacyofgaming2928
@thelegacyofgaming2928 4 ай бұрын
Hanami would've jumped in too if she wasn't already dead 😂
@plannedtuna8293
@plannedtuna8293 4 ай бұрын
He definitely was done dirty but at least his character arc was relatively well done, which gave his death a lot of weight. Narratively, characters like Nobara, Yuki, and Kenjaku were done way dirtier since they were built up only to die without having their stories addressed. I mean I guess Nobara got a backstory flashback shoehorned in right before she died lol, but the other two didn’t even get that
@elone4567
@elone4567 3 ай бұрын
​@@plannedtuna8293 bro seeing kenjaku drop that easily pissed me off really, like how? HOW!?
@kingace6186
@kingace6186 3 ай бұрын
IDK, maybe modern Shounen Jump mangaka's shouldn't be so scared about writing a long-running series if their story needs to be fleshed out more. Seems like too many are just speedrunning their plot and narrative.
@blutygar
@blutygar 20 күн бұрын
Really wish this point was raised up more
@shivyshurima6533
@shivyshurima6533 4 ай бұрын
The downside about this method of writing is I just don’t care about the cast now and really haven’t since Yuki’s death. Personally though my new issue is apparently Sukuna not trying at all so far which just sours the gojo vs sukuna fight cause now it feels so fake.
@smeneses575
@smeneses575 2 ай бұрын
I am unsure of how much you know now that it's been a month since you've left this comment. With the release of new chapters since this point, Sukuna was actually trying very hard in the fight, but i have my own qualms with the fight for reasons that i dont think are worth getting into. Hope this may change your overall perspective with the fight, even just a bit so as it to not be ruined for you
@LoudWaffle
@LoudWaffle 2 ай бұрын
This seems to be a common sentiment that I just can't understand or relate with. When a fictional character lives or dies doesn't affect how much I like or care about them, as that is always contingent on their role in the story, which will always exist regardless of if they are still an active participant in it as new chapters come out.
@Dipj01
@Dipj01 2 ай бұрын
​​@@LoudWafflelet me try to explain it to you. When people love a character, especially a good (non-evil) character, they consciously or subconsciously root for him (want him to win). Its just human nature. This means when that character dies, people will feel hurt or disappointed (even if the character dying made sense in the story), because they were rooting for him, because they loved him. Now if almost all of their loved characters keep on dying one after the other, people stop caring for new characters because it reminds them that they got hurt the last time they rooted for a character. People don't like to feel sad/disappointed over and over again, and so its a natural mechanism by brain to stop rooting for new characters, so that when he inevitably dies, the reader is protected from feeling that sadness/disappointment. Even if the death made sense in the story, humans simply don't like getting sad/disappointed repeatedly.
@LoudWaffle
@LoudWaffle 2 ай бұрын
@@Dipj01 Yeah it’s the caring about characters over the story that they’re in service to that I don’t get. Like I understand what you’re describing, I just don’t get why people get more attached to the individual characters as though they’re real than they are to the story and ideas the author is communicating. I get attached to and love characters as well, but they’re not my only attachment to the larger story.
@Dipj01
@Dipj01 2 ай бұрын
@@LoudWaffle it depends on the plot and the character. I find the characters of jjk more interesting than the plot. I find the plot of jjk kinda mid. I'm sure many others feel the same. Another good example of this is superhero movies. People care more about Spider-Man than the plot. If spidey dies, many understandably won't give any shit about the plot anymore. If the characters are very interesting and the plot is mid, the characters become more important than the plot.
@yup7380
@yup7380 4 ай бұрын
My criticism with JJK is extremely simple. It lacks strong constrast between tragedy and happinness. Gonna use HxH 2011 as an example, you know how wholesome that anime is right ? Gon finishing the exam with some fun things like him a child using human as a bait for Hisoka without giving any sense of remorse. Or the fact that Netero allows psychopath like Hisoka gain free jail card access. None of those really felt noticeable since the show hides it under it's wholsome aura lol. Then Yorknew arc came in which is a crime mafia arc which has dark tone. After that, came the wholsome Greed Island. Then came, The Chimera Ant which is the darkest arc in the story. These darkness wouldn't feel as impactful if it weren't for the existence of it's wholsome aura that contrast it. Evil exist because good exist. Strong exist because weak exist. Tragedy exist because happiness exist. Remove one and the other will never exist. JJK is too focused on the tragedy (or more of Fantasy Torture) that it ironically making the tragedy aspect felt so easy to be memed because it's meaning is not as strong without the contrast to support it. How can JJK contrast it ? By simply show more of the character intercating with each other. Ironically enough, Berserk which has one of the most darkest chapter, The Eclipse, also has ton of wholsome moment after that. Heck, even the art style of the manga became more cleaner and less darker except the recent new chapters 💀 which felt impactful because of those contrast. The problem with JJK is not death itself but how it conveys those deaths to truly feels like tragedy instead of fantasy torture that can be memed as "Sukuna Lobotomy Kaisen, since Heian Era"
@happycompy
@happycompy 3 ай бұрын
You COOKED here. You put into words what I couldn't! The story just doesn't have enough happy wholesome moments to balance out the tragedy. It really is torture porn and has been since Shibuya. Imo season 1 of the anime did a much better job balancing the two. I'm curious, have you by any chance watched Cyberpunk Edgerunners?
@yup7380
@yup7380 3 ай бұрын
@@happycompy Yeah, Shibuya can feel that impactful thanks to the more slower calm while still dark tone of Hidden Inventory arc. About Edgerunner, I watched it. Didn't expect it to be that good. I thought it would just be ok but nah it was more than that. Makes me wanna play the game.
@happycompy
@happycompy 3 ай бұрын
@@yup7380 agreed. The storytelling in Hidden Inventory is how I wish the rest of the story was like. The reason I asked you about Edgerunners is because I find it crazy that in just 10 episodes, I formed such a strong bond with some of the characters that I was genuinely devastated with their fates. Yet in 47 episodes of JJK I haven't formed that same level of bond with any of the characters. The deaths just didn't hit the way they should've (though Junpei & his mom + Nanami's fates were handled well imo). I think it comes down to everything you've said in your post.
@yup7380
@yup7380 3 ай бұрын
@@happycompy Damn, u just made me realize I got attached to Edgerunners character in just 10 episodez while JJK never reach that level of attachment. I guess you can argue JJK doesn't try to be like that but yeah, edgerunner is a great story
@MrGksarathy
@MrGksarathy 2 ай бұрын
Exactly. Tragedy only hits you when it's spaced out and preceded by joy and happiness. It's also why manga like CSM or Hell's Paradise do this dark shonen shit better. Also, these interspersed moments of happiness help to humanize the characters, which makes their suffering more resonant.
@AselectirYT
@AselectirYT 3 ай бұрын
A story can get stale if theirs no death. But the same applies to the opposite.
@veryde_3356
@veryde_3356 2 ай бұрын
I think my main problems with how the series is written don't really have to do with the deaths but more with how the world building is inconsistent and vague and how characters just.... leave. Concepts get mentioned but never explained (six-eyes) and characters that were shown to be not only fun but strong get written out without comments (Todo). This may be intended to make the world feel real, but it basically does two things: -It gives Gege a lot of leeway to "cheat" and this wiggle room is perceived so large it is where all the "asspull" discourse stems from. -It completely fucks with build-up and pay-off, which frustrates the readers and lessens the enjoyment a lot of people get out of it. In my opinion this makes for a worse story but that's personal preference. So even if there *is* a greater plan to the narrative, and there very well might be, its communicated poorly by Gege.
@sirius_raspberry
@sirius_raspberry 4 ай бұрын
I feel like more of my problem is less of how death itself is handled, (I actually agree with a lot of the cases of the more controversial "wasted" deaths having purpose to them) but how much the laser-focus on the presence or even bombardment of death comes at the expense of those are still living. Of course there are key exceptions in the very most significant characters right now like Yuji and Maki, but it makes a lot of the side cast feeling like they just kinda exist (The Kyoto students are a big example) make me more apathetic towards their presence. Side cast neglect is hardly an exclusive issue to JJK in the Shonen sphere, but in a story where death is such a dominant prevailing element, and especially since it feels like it's thematically building up to a confrontation against the cruel foundations of JJK's world, it would feel a lot more profound to place just as much weight on the idea that every currently standing life counts. I actually find the feeling of no character being safe regardless of significance in JJK to be pretty refreshing when I feel most series that build up an "anyone can die at any moment" atmosphere wind up having a select handful of characters that you know are gonna stick around through at least the majority of the narrative, I just feel like it overcompensates on that aspect in a way that doesn't leave me feeling much connection to who's still around.
@marisandinianimelove
@marisandinianimelove 4 ай бұрын
"It overcompensates on that aspect that doesn't leave me feeling much connection to who's still around" is exactly my personal feeling to this manga. JJK has such a diversely interesting character that after losing so many, new characters aren't gonna make me hype and instead feel tiring to care. It's a good way to tell a tragic story in a way, and Gege storyline has already hook lots of readers to be invested. It doesn't help that my personal taste on death as narrative device has always been the "few but impactful" such as Azuma-sensei and Jiraiya from Naruto or Hughes and Nina from FMA at the top of my head. Maybe it's more accurate to say I came expecting another school fantasy manga but got Berserk instead. (Also, Gege did Megumi so dirty. He got rid of his dad, father figure, and sister. Dude just can't give him a break.)
@marisandinianimelove
@marisandinianimelove 4 ай бұрын
ALSO (sorry I don't know why I'm being emotional about this here in your comment) JJK is a character-driven story instead of a narrative-driven one (they search for Sukuna's finger twice or thrice? And ths rest was literally force-fed to Yuuji) So to have the readers feel more apathetic to the characters as the story goes on is... well... as if Gege-sensei is slowly and surely choking the story to death.
@MaxIronsThird
@MaxIronsThird 2 ай бұрын
yuji, megumi, yuta and Maki are clearly safe
@flowerbloom5782
@flowerbloom5782 Ай бұрын
⁠@@marisandinianimeloveeven in beserk it doesn’t kill off the cast until the end of a certain arc cause it built up your expectations and character’s beliefs. Jjk has a problem of not letting that happen. It’s like me making a story about blood and violence but what I say about that theme and conveying it is more important rather than just featuring gore in every episode.
@HishamA.N_Comicbroe
@HishamA.N_Comicbroe 4 ай бұрын
"Agenda Kaisen" 😭
@just4universe219
@just4universe219 4 ай бұрын
My favorite kind of Kaisen, yessir 🗣️
@darkdream1469
@darkdream1469 4 ай бұрын
Took me out 💀😂
@islandboy9381
@islandboy9381 4 ай бұрын
This is truly our Lobotomy Kaisen
@ramendope2894
@ramendope2894 4 ай бұрын
"Maintaining the agenda is our top priority"
@ellingtonf1097
@ellingtonf1097 3 ай бұрын
Agenda Piece sends it's regards
@arbelcohen8280
@arbelcohen8280 4 ай бұрын
How did maki get hotter AFTER getting brutally scarred
@jjuicy_wee_wee3800
@jjuicy_wee_wee3800 4 ай бұрын
Wellllll... She quite literally "did get hotter" when Jogo got to her
@arbelcohen8280
@arbelcohen8280 4 ай бұрын
@@jjuicy_wee_wee3800 the only appropriate response
@cyrusmann5443
@cyrusmann5443 4 ай бұрын
Another reason why jogoat is the greatest curse and character in jjk
@Ui_Raizen
@Ui_Raizen 4 ай бұрын
Gotta thank jogoat for blessing us
@WIsForWeaboo
@WIsForWeaboo 4 ай бұрын
no glasses
@KajtekBeary
@KajtekBeary 4 ай бұрын
I'm going to be honest. I dislike how gege writes death not because I feel like the characters are wasted. I just feel detached emotionally. Just like gege. It makes me not care about any of the characters, aside of yuji and megumi, to the point where they are the only reason I'm still reading manga. I don't care about this lawyer dude, nor do I care about yuta, this old guy with katana, yuji's brother nor anyone else. They just don't feel like characters to me, just pawns, tools to tell specific stories, I can't bring myself to caring about them at all. Nobara's and Nanami's deaths were amazing, but if you repeat the same trick multiple times - I'll just stop caring. Not to mention that I did not develop any attachment to any new characters after that because they weren't present for long enough.
@mediumchicago_pizza
@mediumchicago_pizza 3 ай бұрын
@@am-ranth8955lol man as opposed to him just keeping characters sidelined ??? sorry this isnt mha where all of class 1A receives minimal characterization and never faces any real threats lol. I’d rather have the characters lambasted by sukuna than doomed to mediocrity like most side characters in other manga. at least gege serves them up a cool character moment before disposing of them.
@motor4X4kombat
@motor4X4kombat 2 ай бұрын
i don't know if this is embarrasing but i totally forgot that jumpei died in the first arc. For a lot of people was a big shock but for me it barelly gave me an impact since this character suffers from the same problem i have with Joaquin Phoenix joker this character is nothing but a depress reject from the society over and over and over again that they don't give more reason care about him outside of his misery, like what the hell i know about jumpei outside of beeing an incel? he likes horror movies... and thats about it. And don't blame me yuji also forgot about him in the next arc, so don't blame for forgetting him if the plot itself also forgets about him too, yes they reference him once in the shibuya arc but thats about it. And a lot of characters in jjk feel like that they have one personality trait, they give their story in an expo dump and then they just die like nothing. I feel more for polkadot man in THE suicide squad than i did with anyone in jjk, and he die like a dumbass
@KajtekBeary
@KajtekBeary 2 ай бұрын
@@mediumchicago_pizza you haven't get what he is talking about, have ya?
@DeliciousLittleTwink
@DeliciousLittleTwink Ай бұрын
@@motor4X4kombatI’d be less harsh on Junpei considering how he had so little time before he was killed. His character is like a cow being fed so it can be slaughtered right after. But it doesn’t effect the reader/viewer emotionally because his whole story was rushed. His death was only relevant for Yuji’s first fight with Mahito and that’s the pissy thing about it, since it’s like the writer is taking their characters for granted by using them as fuel for the fire
@renansantos6533
@renansantos6533 Ай бұрын
​@@am-ranth8955 Exactly, Todo returned in the manga currently. He's one of my favorite characters in JJk. I should be hyped that he returned because i love his friendship and brotherly bond with Yuji, but i couldn't give a shit currently tbh because of the writing, because i know Todo will probably be used as a plot device being killed so Yuji can suffer more turmoil on his fight with Sukuna. And not even forgetting that we never saw Choso, Yuji and Todo together.
@nidohime6233
@nidohime6233 3 ай бұрын
I wonder this is why series like One Piece rarelly has someone dying.. Once a character dies for good there is not much to dwell deeper and engage with the audience. Too many deseaced characters can be as bad as having too little at times.
@arnowisp6244
@arnowisp6244 3 ай бұрын
Looks like Oda knew from the get go that a Meaningful death is worth more than just Many meaningless death. Heck I still remember White beard after all these years. His Presence at Marineford, His actions, power and finally his Dramatic death. And Ace death. A character we were building towards to save only to die. I still remember those after all these Years. Also. Rarely killing the characters especially those with little impact deaths means Oda could bring them back later to further expand the world.
@asonzegreat226
@asonzegreat226 7 күн бұрын
​@@arnowisp6244newgate n ace happened in the same 30 chapters long arc. There have been many 100+ long chapters arc yet no other meaningful or otherwise deaths
@asonzegreat226
@asonzegreat226 7 күн бұрын
Not even bon chan
@andythesaladgod4578
@andythesaladgod4578 4 ай бұрын
Excellent video as per usual Radman, on Kenjaku's death I feel like it really just cemented my biggest worries about his character. If Kenjaku is done here then he really was nothing more than a fancy plot device who shows up whenever Gege needs to push the plot forward and now that we're in the endgame and his will to start the merger has been passed on to Megumi/Sukuna he is simply no longer needed and was thus killed off. (this is a very simplistic view of things but I'm still upset that my favorite character got killed like that so forgive me)
@Voideadd
@Voideadd 4 ай бұрын
Well I was always a little suspicious of kenjaku being sort of a fraud. The way he spoke to Sukuna at the end of Shibuya sounded very fan boy ish and like his true goal was just to help sukuna.
@Juryoku113
@Juryoku113 4 ай бұрын
Everyone is disappointed with Kenjaku's death not just you. Like the video said his death is the only one that doesn't align with his character at all. Best way is to wait and just see where the story goes.
@Castigar48
@Castigar48 4 ай бұрын
Kenjaku is a bum. Imagine the supposed big vad of a series hide behind sukuna for a month bc he was afraid of gojo
@Mrpeely1
@Mrpeely1 4 ай бұрын
@@Juryoku113speak for yourself i enjoy his death jjk is realistic not like other anime naruto will never die goku will never be dead jjk takes a realistic approach people die in the world no matter who you are some deaths are honorable some are random and some people die for no reason its life if u want a predictable anime go watch black clover or my here
@Isotolerant
@Isotolerant 4 ай бұрын
​​@@Mrpeely1it's not *realistic*, kenjaku dies after getting sneaked, people need to get the idea that if alot of characters die that's realistic out their head since it isn't, are you dead? Is your family dead? (Hopefully not) are all your friends dead? (Again hopefully not). The answer is No so why is it realistic if CHARACTERS die without being fully explored? Like come on we barely know anything about the essential big bad of jjk and he just dies like that
@realjfk5350
@realjfk5350 4 ай бұрын
i agree plot armor can really hinder a show but so can constant death with a story like this
@alexandrurazvandumitru5744
@alexandrurazvandumitru5744 4 ай бұрын
yup. the issue is that nothing matters. deaths are usually cheap and don’t contribute much to character development or even plot sometimes. i guess this is the story the guy wants to tell but it doesn t come off as an unfair world but just bad writing, cause in an unfair world all these deaths would have made yuji question himself and weaken his resolve for more than one panel
@KookiesNolly
@KookiesNolly 3 ай бұрын
Yep and lately JJK has started having both. How is "death is meaningless and random" supposed to really hit when Sukuna has a plot armor and comes up with 1000 year old counter for every technique? The shonen production pace is notoriously terrible on mangakas. Sometimes events feel pointless and characters feel underwritten not because the author has a deep philosophy of life to pass on to us, or we had high expectations for characters, but because the mangaka doesn't have the time to take a step back and truly think of interesting ways to develop their stories. It's actually wild to even expect artists to deliver good writing consistantly under such working conditions. Most weekly shonen suffer from this and have a lot of wasted potential in my opinion? I think JJK is entering a phase a lot of those shonens get through when the mangaka is starting to be exhausted. It's developping a tunnel vision, trying to get from point A to point B as fast as possible by sacrificing everything else. It's not "pointlessness on purpose" we get it already. It's starting to feel like "pointlessness cause it's undercooked". Gege is rushing through the story, almost like he wants to get rid of it and move on to another manga.
@CandyAmble
@CandyAmble 4 ай бұрын
the characters are the world there is no world building and the author is clearly just making it up as he goes because too many plot threads are hanging
@kingace6186
@kingace6186 3 ай бұрын
Ever since the start of Shibuya arc, the deaths in JJK have gotten very stale. Gege tries his best to misdirect only to kill a character off spontaneously. Ironically, this little formula of his has gotten predictable. And if we are being honest, most of the time, it comes across as only being for shock value or meant to be motivation for the protagonists. All while the antagonists/villains have plot armor. This has gotten to the point where the only way to enjoy Jujutsu Kaisen is to root for the curse users and cursed spirits.
@oliverlieberman
@oliverlieberman 4 ай бұрын
Gege has a problem with writing and maintaining women characters
@eW91dHViZSBpcyBjZW5zb3JzaGlw
@eW91dHViZSBpcyBjZW5zb3JzaGlw 4 ай бұрын
true
@ExpertContrarian
@ExpertContrarian 3 ай бұрын
No, he doesn’t. Female characters do not have to be 50-50 in importance or quantity with the male characters.
@monte8901
@monte8901 3 ай бұрын
Still waiting for Mei Mei vs Sukuna
@dankerbell
@dankerbell 3 ай бұрын
​@@ExpertContrarianmaybe not but 99-1 is pretty boring lol, and my brother black flashed the only female character left who actually does anything that anyone in the fandom actually cares about on international women's day 😭 and this sorry franchise was recommended to me by a friend as having good female characters, maybe by anime standards but this is weak
@ExpertContrarian
@ExpertContrarian 3 ай бұрын
⁠@@dankerbellgood thing it isn’t and never was 99-1. Your friend recommending things with terrible reasons is your own problem. Women are already forced into enough fiction. Maybe try watching Captain Marvel and the MCU if forced diversity is your thing
@gooberbyleth7063
@gooberbyleth7063 2 ай бұрын
I cant believe we dontveven fully know nobara died because we literally get no time for it to sink in before the next death . The characters dont get the react . We dont get to react . One of our big three died and were not rven sire she died becaise it just happened and was never brought back again ? Like .... I dunno . Csm atleast let you sink it in There was a breathe when you knew oh this character we knew is gone . They had a story they were important to us yes they happen fast but it is brought up the mc thinks about them . It's not just oh they might be dead but since we never really see anyone react cause now it's the next death
@Mapple-qp6yg
@Mapple-qp6yg 4 ай бұрын
The fact that Gege fridged pretty much the entire female cast is a clear showcase of his dedication not to writing but to shock value
@Mapple-qp6yg
@Mapple-qp6yg 4 ай бұрын
@@StarkTony113 the Girl from Gojo’s flashback died to push Gojo’s arc, Nobara died to push Yuji’s arc, Mai died to put Maki through drama, Yuki died to push Choso’s arc, and Megumi’s sister died to push Megumi’s arc. Tell me which of these deaths don’t meet the requirements of fridging a character. Please do.
@eW91dHViZSBpcyBjZW5zb3JzaGlw
@eW91dHViZSBpcyBjZW5zb3JzaGlw 4 ай бұрын
facts gege loves killin women @@Mapple-qp6yg
@MrGksarathy
@MrGksarathy 3 ай бұрын
But seriously, I honestly agree. Tsumiki was the worst example.
@nycto5335
@nycto5335 3 ай бұрын
Exactly. At this point I'm waiting for the inevitable frustration after Gege decides to sacrifice Maki for some Yuji or whatever development. It's fridging. Like sure we could funnily say that at least these characters are doing something unlike women in other Shonen like Naruto 💀 but holy crap.
@MrGksarathy
@MrGksarathy 3 ай бұрын
@@nycto5335 What are you talking about? Maki will be sacrificed for Yuuta or Megumi angst. That's just how it works.
@justingabriel1765
@justingabriel1765 3 ай бұрын
I think my issue is the inconsistency in the quality that Gege has his character deaths. Nanami was a great death in terms of it being impactful in the moment, but then with all the death in that arc, simply injuring Nobara and Todo essentially just sidelined them from the story, what point is it to keep them alive? None, they don’t come back, so it would have been more impactful to actually kill them to have that be a driving force for Yuji. Edit: I retract my comments about Todo, never mind, Gege was cooking with that one. Then there’s Yuki which I’m not even going to get into, that leads directly into the unsatisfying and anti-climatic death for Kenjaku. Gojos death wasn’t even shocking we all knew it was bound to happen or have a very high likelyhood of happening. The issue is how it was executed, and the blatant disregard for our intelligence and the longing Gege must of had to “shock” us to put that garbage on paper starting the chapter off with Gojo dead as fuck, one tapped, after he was in the middle of winning the fight. when it comes to Sukuna. Sukuna went from oh he’s the strongest guy and he’s the villian to this guy is literally a god and there’s no way we can realistically win. I see people trying to pull revisionist history like Kashimo wasn’t talked up since his introduction. Then you make him use his secret technique that would kill him anyway, just for him also to get one shot? Why waste our time with his character if he was going to do literally nothing. Gege tells us how strong Higuruma is and how he just learned RCT mid fight… to get one shot. Like wtf is that? Yuta, who was the strongest person we had left, used Jacobs Ladder on Sukuna, and he effing tanked it, and took out Yuta, and now maki looks cooked, so now you want me to belive in any way possible that Kusakabe can do ANYTHING?!?! Like idk if Gege things we are stupid or can’t see through the bullshit or what but it’s just annoying at this point
@barcavsreal3993
@barcavsreal3993 3 ай бұрын
There is a serious writing problem, jjk is becoming predictable, kusukabe will show us a technik(narrator : even gojo satoru the greatest sorcerer of all time could not do this technik…) and bum kusukabe gets one bum. We get it already that sukuna is top 1 but try and bring suspense( sukuna uses black flash😂) jjk is good anime but will never reach greats like Naruto with this level of writing
@Isotolerant
@Isotolerant 3 ай бұрын
​@@barcavsreal3993YOU WERE RIGHT 😭😭😭😭😭
@dankerbell
@dankerbell 3 ай бұрын
​@@Isotolerantare you ready for miguel, the man who fought equally with gojo satoru, to do -6 damage to sukuna and then get one shot?
@breyvbienfu2728
@breyvbienfu2728 2 ай бұрын
Precisely! 😭
@3babylon3
@3babylon3 4 ай бұрын
spoilers in the thumbnail is wild
@R7dman
@R7dman 4 ай бұрын
The most recent death here was 5 months ago & it broke the internet, there’s 6 year olds somewhere that know Gojo’s dead
@its-just-a-randomguy8958
@its-just-a-randomguy8958 4 ай бұрын
Skill issue ngl.
@trollaseum6174
@trollaseum6174 4 ай бұрын
@@R7dman my sis just saw this thumbnail and got skeptical about yuki's status in the manga (she's an anime only). It doesn't help that she's next to characters that are already dead. The title makes it worse and she knows about gojo's death like everyone else
@inkognito3145
@inkognito3145 4 ай бұрын
It’s so fucking annoying, you have to have a timer for the second a new chapter get released because all those small ass KZfaqr spoil for 30ct in add money
@VODYJOLMS
@VODYJOLMS 4 ай бұрын
@@R7dman atleast put Nobara front and centre. That way even anime-only won't have an excuse.
@e1ovesGames
@e1ovesGames 4 ай бұрын
Absolutely glazing 💀
@LittleHero2000
@LittleHero2000 4 ай бұрын
truuuuuue
@ZackYeager-kk5ow
@ZackYeager-kk5ow 3 ай бұрын
Past Nanami, I think JJK characters death feel meaningless now. Why would someone feel sad for Mai's death if she wasnt properly shown. She wasnt even given supporting character role. I dont understand what is killing this many characters trying to prove? Thats its better than Tokyo Ghoul, Vinland Saga or Attack on Titan? It does not. Because it just feels like a gauntlet. Everyone comes to fight Sukuna and die. Leaving no impact.
@kvincent0593
@kvincent0593 20 күн бұрын
Bruh, I forgot about Mai ffs
@GM-dg6mj
@GM-dg6mj 4 ай бұрын
gege wrote himself to a corner, to the point where he has to do lazy writing to conclude some characters
@hamzy1989
@hamzy1989 4 ай бұрын
How exactly did he write himself into a corner?
@jadel1108
@jadel1108 4 ай бұрын
​@@hamzy1989 Gojo'a existence, sure hit effects, sukuna lol
@ChunkeM0nkey
@ChunkeM0nkey 4 ай бұрын
Fans thinking they know how the story is supposed to go over the actually creator. 😆
@hamzy1989
@hamzy1989 4 ай бұрын
@@jadel1108 How is that writing yourself into a corner? Especially sure hits lol
@zizu-lakaka
@zizu-lakaka 4 ай бұрын
Only saw this take after 236 😆
@Jared-Jones
@Jared-Jones 4 ай бұрын
Killing off a character because he's too over powered just to shift focus to another character that's significantly stronger. Gege is unable to develop interesting side characters.
@kisukami6719
@kisukami6719 4 ай бұрын
Whether they're interesting or not is subjective, but how he develops them does create a lot of turbulence
@CandyAmble
@CandyAmble 4 ай бұрын
nah it's based on having intellect or not@@kisukami6719
@wolfbane7497
@wolfbane7497 4 ай бұрын
In my opinion sakuna is developing into another Madara Uchiha do you remember how overpowered Madara was and he just had to be killed off by stupid arbitral means yeah I hope we're not heading down the road of sakuna is another Madara
@Jared-Jones
@Jared-Jones 4 ай бұрын
@@wolfbane7497 I'm so tired of a strong hero being super strong just die to sukuknas "anti (insert characters name) technique" that hasn't been used since the heinen era and it's super convenient to the plot.
@wolfbane7497
@wolfbane7497 4 ай бұрын
@@Jared-Jones I understand that
@markmills9899
@markmills9899 4 ай бұрын
Kenny died because he dropped his guard and was having fun for the first time in probably 1000 years Kenny has done everything out of boredom and amusement, and the comedian was able to satisfy that boredom and amusement. The merger less important for him, never cared about the merger itself just about creating chaos.
@asianpablo1574
@asianpablo1574 4 ай бұрын
Kenny survived a black hole at point blank range but couldn’t sense yuta at all
@ihatesoursoup6807
@ihatesoursoup6807 4 ай бұрын
​@@asianpablo1574 being tanky doesn't equal awareness
@justaniceview9497
@justaniceview9497 4 ай бұрын
@@asianpablo1574 also the black hole survival is the assiest ass pull of all he brought a curse technique of of nowhere that countered tsumikis perfectly
@sosa8549
@sosa8549 4 ай бұрын
CT reversal is lowkey dumb, it kinda makes sense for Kenny and Gojo but everyone else it honestly can't be applied to. @iceview9497​
@yaboiplank6764
@yaboiplank6764 4 ай бұрын
did you not read the part where he literally says that takaba did not make up for the 1k years worth of bordeom and then gets angry and sends tengen to sukuna? youre half right but the other half is just very wrong
@johnpaulguevara3977
@johnpaulguevara3977 4 ай бұрын
The problem with this story is that there’s so much imabalance of plot armor and plot convenience.
@dracocrusher
@dracocrusher 4 ай бұрын
I think a big problem is that nobody actually WANTS a world where nobody is safe. They want a world that FEELS dangerous but is still able to keep characters going and only kill them when there's a good point to it. If nobody is actually safe at all and their deaths are going to mean nothing either way, then who cares? It just makes me less engaged with the story because nothing really matters. Why should I care about, say, Maki, if even the main trio isn't safe? She's way more disposable narratively than Nobara was. Why not have her just get turned to juice by Sukuna? It's not going to make a difference either way, it's not like she's going to be a factor in solving that problem or anything. Why even care? This is something Attack on Titan does way better. The setting feels grim as fuck, but not a lot of main characters actually die and the ones who do feel like they tend to get pretty respectable sendoffs. I can feel fine as a fan watching someone I like leave the story because they're going to go out doing something important, and I know that loss is going to shape the rest of the cast going forward. And that's a series where people don't even really have unique fighting styles or abilities like JJK does, meaning when someone dies they're WAY easier to replace narratively by just introducing another recruit. It just doesn't feel deserved or deep when JJK does this stuff. It feels frustrating and it feels like the writer doesn't know what they're doing. I don't feel satisfied with Nobara going out the way she did, I feel annoyed that she got fridged to push another character, and that frustration makes me like Yuji WAY less by proxy just because of how someone I liked got screwed over to push this other person.
@ExpertContrarian
@ExpertContrarian 3 ай бұрын
This is actually something attack on Titan does terribly by the end. You only get the feeling that nobody is safe in the beginning but once you realize who is the main cast you notice nothing bad ever happens to them. The amount do plot armor in AoT was insane and killed the quality of the story. It turns into some literal MCU shit by the end of
@dracocrusher
@dracocrusher 3 ай бұрын
@@ExpertContrarian Sasha, Hange, Levi gets super fucked up, Ymir... It's not a huge load, but the danger never goes away. And because they don't overdo it, they're able to let every death and major injury really sink in and have the narrative weight and aftereffects it's meant to.
@ExpertContrarian
@ExpertContrarian 3 ай бұрын
@@dracocrusher overdo it? There is no impact at all, if nothing happens. Hange was a pointless character who died for no reason. Ymir wasn’t even in season 4 and Levi didn’t die. I knew that nothing would happen to the main cast the entire time, and nothing did. Where is the impact? The plot armor and attack on Titan is indefensible to anyone with standards
@dracocrusher
@dracocrusher 3 ай бұрын
@@ExpertContrarian Hange was a fan favorite, they literally had four seasons of development and they got a really nice sendoff where they were able to reunite with Erwin and the others in the afterlife with all their dead comrades. We're not just throwing people through a meat grinder, each major loss feels important and feels like it matters. It's hilarious that you're just throwing that aside while I'm giving a full list of everyone just in the last season that either dies or gets seriously fucked up, and there's big moments and stakes around pretty much every single one of them. They even gave Pyxis a good sendoff, not that you'd care, lol!
@jimkas3606
@jimkas3606 3 ай бұрын
You described exactly how I felt using the same example I was using in my head. While AoT's main cast can feel like they are protected by the plot some times, it manages to make each of it's important deaths have meaning by pushing both the characters and the plot forward in a direction that wouldn't be possible without the death. If there is one character's death I feel like could have been made more impactful it would be Ymir's death but that's hard to do without spoiling stuff about Marley
@LittleHero2000
@LittleHero2000 4 ай бұрын
Bro... I don't know, like... I can't. I just CAN'T with Jujutsu Kaisen fans. Like... can we stop with GEGE'S MEATRIDING FOR FIVE MINUTES!? Dude, I mean... Listen I respect what you're doing. And I admit that you made a couple of interesting points in the video. For example, I'm with you on the fact that it's annoying how Gege keeps tickling our balls with uncertain status of Nobara. I also liked your idea that characters can become stronger after near-death experience. However, the sheer amount of Gege glazing in this video is ridiculous. And I'm not even talking about 100% clear glazing like 21:32 where you talks about how "Gege Akutami writes his characters like he's moving chess pieces on a board" Like c'mon, how are you not embarrassed to say stuff like that? No, I'm talking about other things. Like 11:00 where you basically said "Yeah, that character death was completely pointless and random but BRO you just don't get it, it was supposed to feel pointless and random". And I thought to myself: "Yeah, bro. No". This argument sucks cause you can apply it to pretty much any other death in any other manga, any other piece of media. I mean we have manga like goofy murderfest that is Akame ga Kill, we have silly cartoonish violence Future Diary, we have Elfen Lied. And you know Elfen Lied. The show about schoolgirl with super abilities killing everyone. All while the fans of Elfen Lied saying stuff like "Bro this anime is so deep and through gore and violence it explores the themes of cruelty of human nature" Yeah, bro, whatever. What I'm trying to say is that an argument about how "a bad thing is supposed to be bad" is a week one. Because it’s too abstract and you can use it to make excuses about every single piece of bad writing in every other piece of media. But then... It just got worse. 11:34. "Characters deaths especially in Jujutsu Kaisen are never actually pointless. And this is a generalization that can honestly be applied to every damn story" YOU CAN'T BE SERIOUS BRO. And you had the audacity to show Shonen titles which are notorious for pointless deaths. Please don't tell me you actually believe that every single death in My Hero Academia has its meaning. PLEASE, PLEASE don't tell me that you actually believe that there are no pointless, anticlimactic, out of nowhere deaths in, for example, NARUTO. Neji? Madara? C’mon! «Even when they are made to fell pointless, there is always a point» Yeah, but that point can be TRASH. Then you proceed to say some… well pretty much objectively questionable things. Like when you said that Kashimo put up a decent fight against Sukuna. I mean are we serious right now? You also said that Yuji and Megumi used Nobara as a silent middle ground that would listen to them. I don’t know, maybe we read different manga. Cause I thought that Megumi was the silent middle ground. He is the most mature out of them, for them he is like Aki for Denji and Power. Also you said that Megumi is a «talented Zenin prodigy». Bruh it’s 2024 everyone knows that Megumi is SORRY ASS. Then 20:24 you were discussing Kashimo and you said that he is «not as important character as many people thought». So approximately 80% of the fandom think that Kashimo death was pathetic and you say that it’s their fault for having high expectations? 28:42 «Suffering in the world of Jujutsu Kaisen has been suffocating lately and that’s a good thing» BRO STOP. STOP. ENOUGH. This is the problem with Jujutsu Kaisen fans. You all just can’t for the love of God stop meatriding Gege. It may surprise you but I’m not stupid, at least not super dumb. And I’m not super smart either. I’m a «normal» fan and along with many other «normal» fans I have my, not necessary true, but simple opinions. «Kashimo was irrelevant» «Yuki death sucked» «Mechamaru was underwhelming». And these opinions are OK. But not for people like you, oh nooo, not for you - glazers. Instead of explaining why Kashimo death made any sense you start making excuses. «Nobara died out of nowhere»-«Oh but it’s supposed to feel underwhelming» «Kashimo sucked»-«Oh, but it’s fans fault for having expectations» «Kenjaku went down like loser» - «Oh it’s because… errr… well it’s just Gege being Gege am I right?» STOP. You people will never admit that Jujutsu Kaisen is just like every other Shonen manga out there. Yeah, more mature that My hero Academia. But just like My Hero, Jujutsu Kaisen has its own flaws. But you will never admit it. You will never admit that almighty Gege can make a mistake, can make an underwhelming/stupid/dumb, simply bad decision. No you won’t admit it cause you just have that need to feel superior towards fans of other Shonen mangas, you just need to feel special. Kinda like Hunter x Hunter fans. HxH fans will eat their own shit to explain why HxH is the best Shonen in history. Kinda like fans of A24 studio films. They will say «Yeah, the movie is a boring slog, but its supposed to be boring». And Jujutsu Kaisen fans are the same. They can’t be like Jojo fans that can have a good laugh about all the «Araki forget» moments. Nooo, for Jujutsu fans Its not enough to simply like the manga - they will keep making ridiculous excuses about «bad things is supposed to be bad», because they need to prove to you that their manga is perfection.
@breadg1818
@breadg1818 3 ай бұрын
Even if You don't like art other people do and thats ok you dont have to leave such a puerile comment.
@LittleHero2000
@LittleHero2000 3 ай бұрын
@@breadg1818 ahaha whatever) anyway thanks for teaching me new word "puerile". I've never heard it before
@kasiazdanowicz9064
@kasiazdanowicz9064 3 ай бұрын
I totally agree and after reading the manga im honestly so dissapointed. The thing that really made me like the series was that this felt different from other anime, mainly because of the friendship between Geto and Gojo. I was so excited because i finally found a show that focused not just on plot and fighting, but also on character interactions and the characters. But now after reading the mange im dissapointed that we got ABSOLUTELY no room to breath between fights and no room to mourn character deaths. And also only a limited amount of character interactions. I know i had unrealistic expectations because of delusional fans though, but still i really hoped this anime would be different than others. I could have accepted that those people didnt talk too much outside of battles and about things that didnt have to do with the plot, but the story and plot is too weak for me to ignore this, especially now after the pointless deaths and the fact that Sukuna is impossible to kill. What left is there really to this story? Idk i just had different expectations but at least i know from now on not to listen to anyone bc people are just delulu at this point
@kiratwo4u
@kiratwo4u 3 ай бұрын
haha, this types of comments are so rare in this delusion filled anime era
@kasiazdanowicz9064
@kasiazdanowicz9064 3 ай бұрын
@@kiratwo4u literally the delusion is soooooo big!!! I thought this show would be so different and special in comparison to other shonens and hidden inventory kind of reassured me of that. But it seems that except hidden inventory its just a normal shonen. Not that anything is wrong with that but after reading the manga i just feel tricked you know
@notme5205
@notme5205 4 ай бұрын
Great video. I don’t know what this problem is with anything, especially media, where people can’t admit faults at all. I just read a comment on this video that said “I’d rather have this than whatever one piece does” and that’s the exact sentence I have a problem with. We’re not talking about one piece we’re talking about JJK, saying one thing in the story isn’t your cup of tea isn’t a bad thing and you’re not a hater for noticing it. It’s so annoying you can’t see a fault in one thing without everyone just coping and deflecting as hard as they can.
@Juryoku113
@Juryoku113 4 ай бұрын
Those are not flaws if that was the intention in the first place from the author. It's fine to say the story is not for you instead of saying it has flaws.
@notme5205
@notme5205 4 ай бұрын
@@Juryoku113 Yes they are nigga. Gege himself has said some chapters are rushed, which included the Zenin massacre which had character deaths. Stop arguing for the sake of arguing my god I am so tired of you niggas.
@Juryoku113
@Juryoku113 4 ай бұрын
@@notme5205 Those chapters were rushed because of his health conditions at that time meaning he couldnt complete drawing some Maki panels you absolute dmbfk. Never talk about flaws nigga if you don't know what that is.
@rockargen9591
@rockargen9591 4 ай бұрын
@@Juryoku113 the intention has nothing to do with flaws tho, its no excuse to say "well, he wanted it that way" when they make bad narrative choices, with that logic then nothing has flaws bc the authors intentions will always align with what they write, so now we cant criticize DB for having no stakes, OP for its (kinda) bad pacing, Naruto for its flashbacks and bs ending, Demon slayer for its dumb attempts to sympathize with the demons, etc. just bc something is intended doesnt mean it isnt flawed, just bc Gege wants to portray death as a common occurence it doesnt mean that deaths shouldnt matter (wich they dont rn, Yuji could die and the only reaction from people would be: "yeah, that makes sense ig").
@Adept224
@Adept224 4 ай бұрын
​@@Juryoku113that would imply that the author's intention is the only thing that matters when considering a story. Which is fair, but I don't think it's the only fair way to to consider a work of art.
@vamillon6969
@vamillon6969 4 ай бұрын
Love how the thumbnail has changed 3 times already
@R7dman
@R7dman 4 ай бұрын
The Jujutsu Kaisen Thumbnail Problem
@lucasrossco9237
@lucasrossco9237 4 ай бұрын
@@R7dmanI have to say that I’m glad you did end up changing it to spoil less people. Gojo in particular is something I would be extremely disappointed to have anime only viewers be spoiled on.
@jsa697
@jsa697 4 ай бұрын
Yup, only reason Im reading the manga is because i got that spoiler and didnt wanna get more
@geckoplayz747
@geckoplayz747 4 ай бұрын
Kenny died as he lived yapping 💀🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@theraikouemp4ror997
@theraikouemp4ror997 4 ай бұрын
LMAO STOP GLAZING GEGE. THE DEATHS IN JJK ARE POINTLESS. ENOUGH SAID.
@christhechilled
@christhechilled 3 ай бұрын
Tell em!
@maximumoverdrive3520
@maximumoverdrive3520 3 ай бұрын
Facts
@barber798
@barber798 3 ай бұрын
after gojo all went to shit, kashimo got waffled higuruma got chopped “potential to become satoru gojo” DAMN THAT CRAZY BUT WHAT DOES POTENTIAL MEAN WHEN WE DONT SEE IT MAN? MEGUMI TOO HE NEEDED TO GET OUT BUT GEGE MADE HIM A FRAUD, series oficially gona to shit
@songokusa602
@songokusa602 3 ай бұрын
Tbh Gege is just killing characters off because he doesn’t care anymore.Yaga? Dead. Nobara? Dead. Nanami? Dead. Kashimo? Waffled. Gojo? Cut in half. Yuji, the main character? Cut in half. Yuta, the second main character? Cut in half. Yuki? Cut in half. Riko? Dead, cause a broke man needed to get by. Jujutsu Kaisen is basically just the anime/manga where the author couldn’t let the cast catch a single win if it killed him. The author has killed off basically every important/unimportant character in the cast, but why? We have been numbed from feeling of sorrow or anything else when a character dies, because the author has killed people off to the point that we, just like him, don’t even care anymore.
@LoudWaffle
@LoudWaffle 2 ай бұрын
Wow what a great way to engage with opinions different than yours. Grow up.
@AfamdiOraelosi
@AfamdiOraelosi 3 ай бұрын
He just kills them off to the point where the audience starts getting numb to it. What makes it worse is that now I see no way for them to actually kill sukuna due to the sheer amount of important people are now dead in the story
@StarkTony113
@StarkTony113 4 ай бұрын
JJK is a perfect example of true wasted potential in shonen. Could have been an all time great series if Gege tried but he just doesn't seem to care about it. Ik it's his first manga and he is only going to get better with his future series but boy does it suck what he did with his current story.
@nishefl0werr
@nishefl0werr 4 ай бұрын
hes really rushing things..i dont know how can ppl still enjoying the manga..i fell off but still read it just to know who is surviving or dying next..i
@thelegacyofgaming2928
@thelegacyofgaming2928 4 ай бұрын
The problem with Gege is his hatred for his fandom, or at least half of the fandom. It's the same reason Game of thrones writing went to dogshlt, because they cared more about going against their fans rather than writing a good story. These writers are too emotional to make a good story.
@theseven5359
@theseven5359 3 ай бұрын
He is trying to keep people guessing in the diservise of the story .I honestly dont think he knows how the story will end but the main motive for pickin the ending will be how unepected it would be
@kasiazdanowicz9064
@kasiazdanowicz9064 3 ай бұрын
​@@nishefl0werreven the art in the latest chapter was horrible. I couldnt believe i read a official scan because how can the art change and get so bad in a few chapters..
@ishubetterthanyou1582
@ishubetterthanyou1582 3 ай бұрын
​@@nishefl0werrMaybe he's being forced to? Stories suddenly getting so rushed and incoherent are often the result of manga studios pressuring the author to end it soon. Though, I still think Yuki or Gojo dying for the sake of plot felt bad. He couldn't really think of a good way to deal with those two.
@noodle8061
@noodle8061 3 ай бұрын
I think i know the crucial difference between Chainsaw Man and Jujutsu Kaisen despite their similarities: Chainsaw Man is very obviously planned out to the last detail. This is a story where Fujimoto knows what he wants to do with every character and im willing to bet he even has an ending fully planned out. Should it be at the end of Part 2 or a potential Part 3. Jujutsu Kaisen on the other hand feels like Gege hasnt planned nearly as far ahead or he just wants to rush to the nest big plot beat. This is felt recently specifically with the Sukuna Cycle that has made it genuinely hard to want to keep up with the franchise. What Gege needs to do (in my opinion. Take this with a grain of salt) is to slow down. Thats it, he just needs to slow down
@gabri3l92
@gabri3l92 19 күн бұрын
"Planned out to the last detail?" That's the exact opposite of what part 2 is
@noodle8061
@noodle8061 19 күн бұрын
@gabri3l92 if you really think that then you had the joy of reading part 1 after it was all finished. Currently yeah sure sometimes it seems like it's not going anywhere but if you know anything about Fujimoto's writing then you know he's somehow able to pull all of the pieces together, Part 2 is still just getting there
@gabri3l92
@gabri3l92 19 күн бұрын
@@noodle8061 Haha sure. It has been walking around circles for years because of "Fujimoto's master plan". The crucial difference between them is that chainsaw man should've ended in chapter 97
@drnobody1908
@drnobody1908 3 ай бұрын
Tbh the only reason these flaws are showing up, everything being anticlimactic, and the entire thing being unsatisfactory is because he's clearly rushing the story after season one. Notice that in season one everything was much more detailed we even got more info a build up however immediately after season 1 it all went crazy fast and bare bones. I think he hates writing his own work now.
@MaxIronsThird
@MaxIronsThird 2 ай бұрын
S2 imo was pretty good, actually much better than S1 of the anime, but i legit expected the next arc to be similar to S1, not Shibuya on coke.
@walterwhite6210
@walterwhite6210 7 күн бұрын
Agreed, I’ve seen lots of other comments and people with the same thoughts. Stuff about today!s Shounen writers are rushing hard, especially Gege
@Bkr0507
@Bkr0507 3 ай бұрын
When was the last time we even got a very good death in JJK, Nanami?
@yngflacco
@yngflacco 3 ай бұрын
Gojo, Nobara, and Nanami is it.
@typicaltabbycat5383
@typicaltabbycat5383 3 ай бұрын
Isn’t Nobara’s status still unknown? I still have high hopes for her return.
@Isotolerant
@Isotolerant 3 ай бұрын
​@@yngflaccoGojo was a dogshit death
@nycto5335
@nycto5335 3 ай бұрын
​​ Bruh did you forget the meltdown after Gojos offscreen death 💀
@dankerbell
@dankerbell 3 ай бұрын
​@@typicaltabbycat5383even if she did return what would be the point, she's weaker than a lot of characters sukuna has facerolled so
@BeybattleTV1
@BeybattleTV1 2 ай бұрын
Personally, I think a video from LocalScriptMan about The Walking Dead explained it best: While death in real life is random and has no rhyme or reason, people aren't going into stories with the expectation or desire for randomness. People tell stories because we as humans crave patterns and meaning in a seemingly meaningless world, it's why the Hero's Journey, The Story Circle, and Kishotenketsu are popular formats for telling a story. The things I see about JJK is the same stuff I read about TWD: If people are gonna die no matter what, and death is random and unpredictable, why should I be bothered with following the story? I'll just wait until it concludes, THEN I'll see how it plays out. It's a death lottery, and I think it's pretty safe to say that when your favorite character is dead and gone, your investment in said story drops siginicantly unless you are a ride or die. I think it's safe to say people go tired of The Walking Dead killing off so many characters after a while. Is it really a surprise that the Season 11 (most likely the series) finale of the show had the second lowest viewership in the show's history, while the Season 6 finale was the highest? I hate to sound cynical, especially since I kinda enjoy JuJutsu Kaisen's paralells to Bleach, but the same thing is gonna happen if this formula keeps up. All in all, if Gege feels that this is the best thing for his story, I'm gonna let king do his thing, but I'm also not gonna pretend that his story isn't becoming Shonen's version of TWD and might lose it's readership unless he wraps this story up quickly.
@arnowisp6244
@arnowisp6244 2 ай бұрын
It's Probably why One Piece stayed Popular for So long. By not killing the main cast and doing the killing on Side characters, Oda manged to keep People hooked for over 2 decades. All the While making sure the Main cast the stayed alive actually has a Good story to be told with them.
@HereForTheShips
@HereForTheShips 3 ай бұрын
I think Gege is just speed running through the story so he can end it. It’s easy to deal with a character and tie the bow on their story without it taking much time when you just kill the character off. For a character to reach full potential it takes more writing which would make the story longer. Gege is just done with JJK and wants to get it over and done with as quickly as possible. That said he doesn’t want it to be garbage which is why he’s taking his time with Sukuna. IMO.
@9Yosef
@9Yosef Ай бұрын
yapping for 30 mins to defend bad writing is crazy
@Qbone_
@Qbone_ 4 ай бұрын
probably my fav new jjk channel you vids are amazing.
@PavillionKing
@PavillionKing 3 ай бұрын
JJK is probably going to go down the Demon Slayer route, where people lobe it so much because of reasons, but then people start to call it overrated later down the line.
@miramaxcinemax5512
@miramaxcinemax5512 4 ай бұрын
For how much people call Nobara a "good female character of shonen" she is just same useless female character in the end. Had no connections to the world of Jujutsu kaisen, no special relationship between her and other characters besides just normal friendship, no relevancy to the story, wasn't as strong as other main characters, even Gojo didn't have any advice for her or any training with her, shit they barely interacted. She is worse than a side character. Junpei was more relevant. When is this problem gonna end?
@dankerbell
@dankerbell 3 ай бұрын
lol exactly, i always see people gassing her up and when i finally got to her death i was so confused as to why, and why one of my friends desperately trying to get me into it said the franchise had the bestest female characters ever, like i like maki but that's kinda it, she's all that's left, i don't see mei mei doing anything any time soon and she's an incestuous groomer anyway and the others are too weak to be brought in so... i just don't get it
@LoudWaffle
@LoudWaffle 2 ай бұрын
Like the video literally says... her point kinda was exactly that she was disconnected from the jujutsu world. She came to Tokyo Jujutsu High to escape the mundanity of her hometown. She hadn't sufferred any real hardships, but still blossomed as a character, doing great not only in the Mahito fight but also the Eso and Kechizu fight - all special-grade or near-special-grade curses. Her role as it relates to the central focus of the story - Yuji - was that she was unintentionally used as a buffer between him and Megumi truly connecting, and her death is literally what trigger's Yuji's long-lasted detached personality, as his way of coping with it is to distance himself from his own feelings, and consider himself nothing more than a cog in the world that picks up where those dead around him left off. I don't know what people expect from Nobara when they say she was useless or had no character development. Of course I'm not saying that she couldn't have had more of both if she lived, but people act like she was being set up for something grand in the story and then didn't live up to that. Is it just that people wanted to see her becoming stronger and kill more bad guys? I really don't get it.
@comi.d7873
@comi.d7873 2 ай бұрын
I think this is more so the environmental influence in japan. Societical expectations in japan seep through mangaka's works subconsciously
@miramaxcinemax5512
@miramaxcinemax5512 2 ай бұрын
@@LoudWaffle she is from the main trio. What is this genius idea making the point of one of the main characters being entirely disconnected and useless? What is this genius idea making a character that serves no purpose whatsoever besides breaking a main character with her death? We are watching a battle shonen here, of course I want them to grow stronger and develop. She had literally no progression in any way. I remember sitting and watching her 5 minute flashback before her death thinking the entire time that these whole 5 minutes show just trying to make me feel sad for her and that was the entire reason for this flashback. Just 5 minutes of entirely separate disconnected story with irrelevant characters that funnily enough reminds you how irrelevant she was as one of the main characters. You just have to understand that even if something is ''the point'' of the character doesn't mean that it was a good decision from the writing standpoint. And I frankly doubt it was even the point, author just fucked up
@LoudWaffle
@LoudWaffle 2 ай бұрын
@@miramaxcinemax5512 I don’t find it a compelling argument that because shounen manga tend to have a main trio of characters, and Nobara was part of JJK’s, that she was owed plot armour and greater long-term narrative relevance.
@polskirzniwiarz5034
@polskirzniwiarz5034 4 ай бұрын
I have a feeling that gege kept nobaras fate as a mystery so that he can pull the rug from under us in some way
@zizu-lakaka
@zizu-lakaka 4 ай бұрын
People cope to say that's not the case when that's the case lol. I don't know how many times Gege has to pull rugs from underneath us for us to realise he's addicted to that shii 😭
@quert1446
@quert1446 4 ай бұрын
@@zizu-lakaka nah
@thelegacyofgaming2928
@thelegacyofgaming2928 4 ай бұрын
Gege likes to "subvert expectations" just like the genius writers of GoT final seasons 😂
@sus6221
@sus6221 4 ай бұрын
Nobara Sweep tag teams Sukuna with Maki using the 21nd finger in chapter 252!!
@polskirzniwiarz5034
@polskirzniwiarz5034 4 ай бұрын
@@sus6221 fr or are you troling
@alexz.8302
@alexz.8302 4 ай бұрын
I understand the writer had his vision for the story and characters, but I wish the concept of curses was explored more like Devils in Chainsaw man. Curses come from negative emotion, so why wasnt there a Death Curse? Or a CURSE Curse? Ir probably would have made the story more classic Shonen, but I feel there was so much more potential for the JJK world.
@DeliciousLittleTwink
@DeliciousLittleTwink Ай бұрын
Speaking of CSM, that series is similar to jjk in that characters drop like flies, but one does it better than the other. Jjk introduces characters and expects you to like them within the short time they get before they killed like a cow for the slaughter, and it ends up being more irritating than sad. CSM spends more time on the weaker but charming characters like Himeno so when they do get killed off, it doesn’t feel like a waste of potential, and more like, y’know, an actual death to be sad over. If only Gege learned from Fujimoto
@sammydray5919
@sammydray5919 Ай бұрын
What baffles me is that it curses are amalgamation of negative energy from regular people, why aren't there any curses in the rest of the world outside of Japan. Yes the story gave the Tengen barrier explanation but like does the rest of non Japanese humans just not emit any curse energy?? Or do curse spirits just not form outside of Japan?? Idk man this whole tengen explanation feels so half assed that its laughable world building at best
@alexz.8302
@alexz.8302 Ай бұрын
@@sammydray5919 man seriously! It was an excuse to have the US government go to Japan during the Culling Game. Which is dumb because Miguel is from Kenya and has CE.
@errorcopythat
@errorcopythat 3 ай бұрын
Sorry, but how the hell is Kenjaku negating the black hole a 3000iq play? He literally didn't even know what her cursed technique was and he just happened to have obtained the PERFECT counter for that specific ability by complete coincidence (a power that never came back btw so it's literally just a plot device), thats just lazy writing. I also find it funny that you shit on people coping about Nobara and Kashimo and call their deaths "expected" and then you turn around and cope about Kenjaku lol
@Utge_maexander0323
@Utge_maexander0323 3 ай бұрын
This was the one fight in the series where I feel someone got hoed. Yuki's mass punches should have been enough for Kenny but surviving a black hole is insane
@ConstantinDOSSOU-vy1zo
@ConstantinDOSSOU-vy1zo 3 ай бұрын
It is just Yuki 's fault. She really though than Kenjaku with 1000 years of experience didn't learn RCT 🤦🤦🤦
@ManInAnIronMask
@ManInAnIronMask 4 ай бұрын
lol thank goodness others realize just how absolutely unserious this manga is
@seansolofly4943
@seansolofly4943 4 ай бұрын
I think Sukuna is the MC of the show as it seems JJK is a story about how to create a Sukuna. Yuji will become the new Sukuna. He has already been compared to a natural calamity as he is the other side to the coin that is Mahito (who would've also become a new Sukuna). His brother referred to him as a demon God. Much like Sukuna, Yuji also eats people beginning with Sukuna's fingers and including his brothers the death womb paintings. He's not as smart or gifted as sukuna or mahito for they could copy techniques they've seen one time as with becoming a cursed object in Sukuna or a fraction of a second domain expansion in Mahito. Yuji has one up on Mahito in that he has not manifested a domain yet, so he will likely get an overpowered one like Sukuna that is without barrier. If lesser jjk sorcerer have domain expansions & yuji has performed black flash multiple times but doesn't, he lonely manifest one that's defies the rules of domains much like Sukuna, especially since he's soaked in Sukuna's cursed energy and its stated he will manifest sukuna's abilities. Also, Sukuna stated he was an unwanted child; Yuji is very much like the child of Sukuna as he was created for him. Yuji is clearly unwanted by Sukuna
@LoudWaffle
@LoudWaffle 2 ай бұрын
How does any of that make him the main character 💀
@seansolofly4943
@seansolofly4943 2 ай бұрын
@@LoudWaffle what constitutes one as a main character of a series? Then, among the main characters, we can determine which one is the main character. Would you argue against Sukuna being one of the main characters? If you would not, would you be in agreement that Sukuna is the focal point of the series? Gojo, Kenjaku, and Geto are dead, and although their death alone would not preclude them from being the MC, I don't believe most would perceive any of the three to be the MC. Generally the story is seen from the perspective of the MC. When Sukuna was in Yuji's body, they story more closely followed Yuji; when he moved to Megumi, it more closely followed Megumi's body.
@seansolofly4943
@seansolofly4943 2 ай бұрын
@@LoudWaffle If only emojis where enough to prove a point, then you might have one...🍑💨💩
@LoudWaffle
@LoudWaffle 2 ай бұрын
​@@seansolofly4943 This really feels like a disingenuous argument, so before I try to go further I want to know what your definitions for "main character," "primary character," "point of view character," and "antagonist" are.
@LoudWaffle
@LoudWaffle 2 ай бұрын
@@seansolofly4943 To me: the main character of a series is the protagonist who is the primary point-of-view character, who the story primarily follows and revolves around, and whose struggle against the antagonist/antagonists/antagonising force is the central idea of the story. Sukuna is A primary character (what I assume you mean when you refer to multiple main characters), obviously, but he's not the main character, that's Yuji. And no, I would not agree that Sukuna is the focal point of the series. For the entire plot up until Yuji vs. Higuruma, Yuji was the primary focus. The fact that sukuna was in his body does not change that fact. Even now when a lot of focus is being put on Sukuna first and foremost, our POV into the actions of the plot are through the characters opposing him. Very rarely do we get a look into Sukuna's thoughts, and when we do it's incomplete. Only exception to this I can think of is in chapter 248 when we get an uninhibited look at Sukuna's thought process regarding peoples' roles in life, and how they are given via interactions with other people - though even this inner monologue revolved around his thoughts about Yuji. Additionally, although Sukuna is the overarching antagonistic force that Yuji and the rest of the protagonists are struggling against, none of them are that for Sukuna. He is a character who inherently does not struggle as he moves through the story. We followed his actions after he possessed Megumi so we could see the consequences of that event, specifically the death of Megumi's sister. Immediately after that, we get the fight against Gojo where, if anything the order of POV is Kusakabe (and the rest of the cast including Yuji watching) -> Gojo -> Sukuna.
@pannajohns5255
@pannajohns5255 3 ай бұрын
This is what happens when you as an author could not give two sh!ts about your own characters. Because its true, Gege does not even care about the supposed main character, he hates Gojo as well like what is he doing at this point. That attitude is also being reflected in the community, so many people saying they basically consider the culinary game arc non-existent and have become bored and numb to the deaths. I know it is supposed to reflect that sudden death is tragic and sad, its more realistic, however not developing them before they get killed is so wasteful.
@sophiathewitch7927
@sophiathewitch7927 4 ай бұрын
i feel the same about kenjaku's death. like i can forgive gege not resolving plotlines. like that was kinda the point of toji vs megumi and gojo's death. but like my issue with it is. kenjaku is the mastermind behind the entire story, to see this person whos planed out everything for centuries just decide to give up and place his hope in sukuna someone he knows will likley betray him. just feels wrong. like itadori never even met kenjaku really, and i understand that yuta being the one to do him in is in character for him but kenjaku is itadori's mother, kenjaku is the reason why sukuna is back why the shibuya incident happened and why the culling games exist. having him die and say "oops guess its on you ryomen oh buddy oh pal" just feels not only anti climactic but also wrong. i hope this is all a 3000000 iq play by him but my soul tells me other wise. according to gege jjk is ending soon and you can really feel that with the current chapters. the only threat left is sukuna. so either 1 gege is lying and is real life kenjaku and has a 6d chess play so massive it changes how we view the story. or gege is burnt out and wants to end the story.
@kasiazdanowicz9064
@kasiazdanowicz9064 3 ай бұрын
Same, i dont even know where the story is going anymore. How can you kill the main villain, the one that had so much buildup in season 1 and made the whole plan for shibuya like that? I thought he was an interesting and smart villain but i was so curious why he did everything. When he said he want this out of curiosity i was surprised bc its kind of a bad reason but i thought that maybe we will see his backstory or something and that will explain it better why he is like this. But that didnt happen and i had to read like 2 chapter of him being a dumbass with a random guy and then he died right after?? Honestly those chapter could have been used to show his backstory. And the fact that now only sukuna is left as the villain and it doesnt seem like anyone will be able to kill him... i dont even know what to expect anymore
@yYukiKuroi
@yYukiKuroi 4 ай бұрын
I think there's a point where deaths become unneeded after a certain arc in any manga. Shibuya was already showing us how much death happens left and right: Nobara, Nanami, Naobito, Hanami, Jogo, Mahito, Haruta, the twins... we got the point death happens and it can come out of nowhere and no one's really important but after that why keep doing it? It just causes less room for developing the new character on screen, instead Yuki now has to be potentially developed in flashbacks... not the best way to show that. Yuki became useful with her soul research, but she could've been useful alive with that soul research. The past sorcerers help in showing how death is the main theme, but why get rid of characters that can help flesh out lore? Why didn't we get anything from Ryu's time? Why didn't we get more from Uro or Yorozu, they were around in Sukuna's time, the time of the best sorcerers and we get nothing. Like of course the story is about death and how sorcerers are at the foot of it every time but other aspects of a story need to be told to create a full story, if you're main focus is themes then you're doing something wrong with the story. Look to Bleach or Naruto: They show us death far more than JJK has yet they write the story's other aspects in full. Lore? We get turn back the pendulum in Bleach, showing us where everything started for Aizen. Ichigo's origins? We get that from his father explaining what happened with his mother. The Espada are given origins, we see what they came from and how its changed them. Naruto we got Kakashi's backstory with Obito. Naruto's birth? we got that shown and understand more about Minato's past and Obito's. Madara vs Hashirama? got that. Even got their childhood and how they met shown. And while all this is given we still are shown countless deaths whether that be most the Espada dying, most the Akatsuki dying, Jiraiya & Itachi's death, Zabuza and Haku's death, Asuma's death, Deidara's, we get so much death in both these series and yet they still know how to develop other aspects of the story. And the thing is death is a big theme in both them for shinobi face death, the hopelessness and hollowness Hollows face in their life, how all the Espada are aspects of death lmao. And even ignoring death as a theme there's other themes within both series that also get touched on, yet they know how to show us a full story with all its aspects being fed. Biggest point is that themes are fun and good to have in your story as it helps enrich the characters but after a while you gotta hit on the story's other avenues and sadly it seems Gege chose fights as the avenue to hit. Gege decided "I'll focus on the themes and fights but for lore I'll leave crumbs" which is weird considering how he gave us HI which shows he can write past events and do it well but he's just decided on not doing it.
@Malthizar
@Malthizar 4 ай бұрын
Another awesome video. I was never upset by Kenjaku's death and I think this video (in its totality) explained why. Characters in JJK, more than -any- most other series, are not "dealing" with death but moreso _gambling_ with it. We see the phrase used multiple times outright while some characters literally have gambling as a key part of their very technique. Even when not blatantly said, characters are making gambles that either turn to or against their favor. Gojo gambles he learns RCT before dying, Kenjaku gambles his CT will protect him against the black hole, Sukuna gambles that Mahoraga will show him a way around Limitless that he can emulate. Every character is playing their hand and it's either win, lose, or draw, with "lose" either resulting in death or a serious dismantling of their plans. Again, when you reread the series through that lens, character deaths start to "make more sense". Kenjaku, as an example, is effectively the House/Dealer and has managed to make such intelligent and conservative bets that he almost always wins. He only loses to a man that defies all logic and leaves him open to the heroes' true plan at the tail end. Whether it's Sukuna gambling that Yuji won't take back control after losing his heart, Todo gambling that Mahito will believe his ruse one last time, or Yuji gambling that Megumi would be willing to wrest back control against Sukuna, characters are constantly gambling, with a loss often resulting in them dying.
@ArcusLock
@ArcusLock 4 ай бұрын
My question is why did kenjaku make yuji? If his goal was to bring back sakuna and bring forth the merger with humanity and tengen why make Yuji in the first place… to help bring forth the king of curses? But we see how easily he can control amothers body that doesn't seem like the reason.. That my biggest question…
@abongilezolanipeterson5588
@abongilezolanipeterson5588 2 ай бұрын
@ArcusLock Kenjaku didn’t anticipate Sukuna jumping ship and moving onto another body. He had no idea Sukuna could do that
@LICENFIREFEAR
@LICENFIREFEAR 4 ай бұрын
very well edited video, extreamly enjoyable to watch and listen to youre commentary
@OreoRanger2210
@OreoRanger2210 4 ай бұрын
I finally understand why the deaths irk me and so many others the wrong way. It's because they are the exact opposite of how most sane writers would choose to write their story. In most stories deaths are treated with care and emotion to make them hit hard. They can end a character's arc or signal the start of another part of the story. But few, if any, stories do what JJK does with deaths. JJK is one of the only ones willing to both admit the tragedy, and leave it at that for the audience. The forced realization that death is always tragic, sad, and inevitable while simultaneously being pointless is uncomfortable. The world moves on. And we don't like that because it sucks. BUT, the pointless deaths make the character as a whole feel pointless. It makes the audience feel like the character wasn't important to anything, whether the writer, the story, or something different altogether. That's the killing point, that Gege is doing something antithetical to investment and it's damn point of the story! I do still think that death is overused to the point that it hurts the immersion, but at the same time I can recognize the beauty and skill present. What would have helped was just more time! The story never stops and lets the characters breath, so when they die it feels like we spent no time at all with them.
@MineShackle
@MineShackle 4 ай бұрын
he doesnt care to actually write and develop characters to a point where they become fully realized before killing them
@StarkTony113
@StarkTony113 4 ай бұрын
@@MineShackle I don't think any character in the series has died without any development. It's all about the lack of time spent with the characters which makes the deaths very janky to the general audience.
@happycompy
@happycompy 3 ай бұрын
You nailed it when you said the characters never get a chance to breathe.
@Lukeormaybenath
@Lukeormaybenath 4 ай бұрын
Sometimes I forget I'm 30. Took me a while to understand why people get so shook by characters dying in the story, to me it's always been about the kind of story the author intends to tell, rather than my personal preferences about it. Ywah, if everyone lived it would be bonkers, but death being used as a narrative period really increases the urgency of the plot and characters involved in it
@ewo_lau
@ewo_lau 4 ай бұрын
yeah but killing off so many characters doesn’t seem that realistic to me
@Username-cs1bi
@Username-cs1bi 4 ай бұрын
​@@ewo_lau really? I find it much more unrealistic (or better wording: believable) that in many battle shounen that people didn't die, or at least people we know. Look at Big 3, Naruto, Bleach, One piece, (we can include MHA too), how many people actually died from the good side? They didn't even need to die, how many are maimed, lost something big, or anything? Neji's death is dumb narratively, I don't remember anyone in bleach besides from Genryuusai that is done VERY VERRYYYY dirty by Kubo and as far as i remember, OP only lost Ace. It honestly felt like the bad side is sooo horrendously incompetent, especially bleach when kubo promote quincy as someone tremendously powerful they can build their castle beneath seireitei the whole time but they can't even finish one important character.
@felix7720
@felix7720 4 ай бұрын
​@@ewo_lauIt depends on the situation, but if we're talking about Shibuya I don't see how the amount of death that happened is unrealistic. The lack of death in most Shonen anime is unrealistic.
@rohanking12able
@rohanking12able 4 ай бұрын
​@@felix7720 well no the amount of death is unrealistic. They rely on Gojo but also don't want to free gojo. Especially after the night of 100 demons. They literally let the culling games happen. How's that not dumb. You don't have sorceress ready for another calamity on fucking Halloween
@oneof13forestpeople97
@oneof13forestpeople97 4 ай бұрын
@@ewo_lauya people dying in a world where the protags constantly fight things stronger than they are with killing intent doesnt make sense huh?
@PokemonWorldHistory
@PokemonWorldHistory 4 ай бұрын
So im not the only one to be furious about Kenjakus death? 😭
@arnowisp6244
@arnowisp6244 2 ай бұрын
Have those deaths been in-service of the story he wishes to tell or has it been BS as he has no idea what the end game even is?
@Dooky-mv1by
@Dooky-mv1by 3 ай бұрын
There's no weight to the deaths at this point. Almost feels like a comedy
@yaboiplank6764
@yaboiplank6764 4 ай бұрын
spot on with kenjaku i think someone else also pointed out that another disappointing aspect wasnt necesarily that kenjaku didnt get to show us his entire bag or even that he and yuta didnt face off despite it being a fight thats been setup the most after gojo v sukuna But rather that in his final few chapters we hardly learned something about him and that it was focused around a relatively irrelevant side character that not many readers have resonated with he is the most lore heavy character in the entire series, i wouldnt even be surprised if he was married to tsumkis mom His strength was also impressive. ofc against yuki,choso and tengen he shined but that anti gravity was kinda bs unless gojo dropping to the ground was foreshadowing of his gravity manipulation and then theres also the scene where the majhong blocks fall over simultaneously but this is a guy who has a domain on sukunas level (disregarding curse energy and lethality) and we didnt get to see him humble someone for using a domain against him "divine like sukuna" based on what? because he couldnt do anything to gojo, so what made his domain so special? we didnt get to see and its such a shame because he also had tengen and getou himself was also a very good barrier user, not that kenjaku would learn anything from geto tho We shouldve seen more we dont even know what kenjakus real domain does
@kasiazdanowicz9064
@kasiazdanowicz9064 3 ай бұрын
I agree, when i saw his death i thought that he is still alive because why kill off such a powerfull villain, the one that was bulit up as one of the main villains? Literally his death was stupid as hell. And the fact that we used like 2 or 3 chapters on him and the comedy guy????? We could have seen some interactions between characters in the period between gojos return and the fight with sukuna but nooo we have to see kenjaku act like a fool with some irrelevant guy. I mean he probably is funny and is kind of a comedic relief but still
@bu11ymaguire
@bu11ymaguire 4 ай бұрын
think whole situation of nanami and nobara is brilliant. it's a contrast bw kusakabe and nobara and nanami and mei mei which sets the values of the world. Nanami said the situation is for atleast grade 1... But nobara didn't care because she couldn't leave her friends behind. She showed bravery she died. Kusakabe was grade one and was sent to protect people.. but he showed cowardice and great perception of his own abilities and situation. He lived. Nanami and nobara die. Mei mei and kusakabe lived. Stark contrast and actual reality. Also some are saying not confirming nobara's death cheapens it. it doesn't cheapen anything.. mahito used a quick touch while running from yuji.. she might or might not have died.. But Yuji couldn't understand or had perspective on anything that was going on..so he went in mental trauma. And another great example of natural screenplay is that Yuji could not be motivated just with todo's words. He was completely in despair.. But when nitta says she has 1% chance of living, Yuji clings to that hope and that makes him come out of sense and then words help him. It's like a kid who is crying for his mom.. If you give him a candy to stop him from crying he wont take it. But if you say his mom is coming and in the meantime he can take the candy. He will take the candy and Stop crying. Because you gave him the hope to fall onto. That's what gege did..the screenplay was perfection and probably never done before in anime.... usually words motivate people which is meh.. If she's dead. It is what it is. If she's alive..then she might be in coma, she might be out of commission or she's training her ct so she doesn't become a burden next time for her friends which are in narrative consistency and personality of character. Gege never said she's dead. People assumed it.. and with the way Yuji acts in culling games it's probable nobara is alive but in bad condition and out of commission like todou..
@Voideadd
@Voideadd 4 ай бұрын
There are so many displays of selflessness being bad. Nobara not running, Yuji accepting death against choso led to him getting those fingers and sukuna coming out. Megumi sacrificing himself to bring out mahoraga made Sukuna use malevolent shrine killing all those people . This story I feel is very similar to Tokyo ghoul with how it tells you it's important to still be a little selfish and take care of yourself first so you can be there to help others without destroying yourself in the process.
@diogenesbarrel7350
@diogenesbarrel7350 4 ай бұрын
@@Voideadd Yeah agreed. On a related note, I noticed the major theme of the show seems to be stemmed from the idea of knowing ones "Self". It is stated that Sukuna is one of the main characters who has a very true idea of himself. He doesn't deny it or try to change it and that's what put him at the apex of jujutsu society. He let go of his "humanity" because he believes being one's true self is outside the confines of "humanity" itself. Another character who i'd say embodies their idea of "self" would be Hakari as stated by Uraume. Every other person who doubted themselves or lived to help others have either died, been out of commission, or suffered serious mental trauma. During one flashback in the show, Gojo tries to instill that lesson to Megumi as well. Telling Megumi that sorcerers die alone and die without regrets. Itadori lives to save others and has steeled himself behind this identity hence opening his path to growth. Megumi on the other hand, albeit not being a goody-two-shoes like itadori, is always quick to escape or play it safe and therefore doesn't push himself hard enough. He gets a glimpse into his idea of him "self" when he forces a DE but that goes nowhere as we see in the recent chapter. He lived for his sister and Gojo and they got axxed with his body so Megumi lost his sense of self. Itadori however, after fighting Mahito, fully leans into his new Identity - A cog in the machine that knows that not everyone can be saved, and has never looked back.
@blues4509
@blues4509 4 ай бұрын
I've been seeing this sentiment that jjk punishes people for being good people and that's a good thing. I think that's a pretty cynical outlook on the story and people choose to see it that way because being a cynic is in style nowadays. However I think jjk is ultimately a story about how doing the right thing requires sacrifice. Gojo popularized the whole "just be selfish, to be strong" mentality for the fan base but he was shown to be wrong in the end. Yet people still cling to it. Gojo was a defender of humanity which requires great sacrifice which he understood somewhat through his actions but still he wanted more than that for himself. He wanted to be more selfish, enjoy what he does over doing it because it was right. This lifestyle was a contradiction though and was bound to fall apart as soon as someone came along that could challenge it. Sukuna is a foil to Gojo, a complete version of his desire. He acts completely on his selfish machinations, nothing else and no one else matters to him in the face out that. It is the ultimate result of the "just be selfish" mantra. Sukuna is undoubtedly portrayed to be a villain due to this. Society would fall apart if everyone only cared about themselves and doggedly pursued their desires at the expense of everyone else. The flaws in both Nanami and Nobara led to their deaths I would say as well. The former was duty and the latter was pride. Nanami outwardly stated many times how he loathed his profession and only did it out of a sense of responsibility. There was no passion in his heroism it was a business that he looked forward to his retirement. Even at his end he imagined he were somewhere else, retired on a beach instead of in the act of his heroism. He dutifully continued to fight until he was killed. Nobara was undoubtedly brave but that bravery was tempered by hubris. She chased after Mahito carelessly feeling as though she had the upper hand. Given her demeanor you can tell she took pride in her abilities and chased after the special grade for this absolution. In her flashback it was shown that she always desired to stand out from a population of average people. She always wanted to be special, to her being average was worst than death. Nobara did her best to show the world that she was anything but average. She does end up saving lives through her actions and was a good person but the reason why she met her end is because she was blinded by her desire to prove herself, rushing headlong into danger. All this to lead into our protagonist Yuji. The quintessential sacrificial man. Yuji does good; not because it was a burden placed on him at birth that he grew tired of and simply wished to enjoy like Gojo, not because he felt his hands were tied out of a sense of responsibility like Nanami and not because he wanted to prove himself to the world that he is a special person. In fact Yuji contradicts these outlooks. He does what is right because he wants to help people and that's it. No ulterior motives to it. He's willing to sacrifice all that he has, all that he is. He doesn't find it entertaining, he doesn't care if people view him as nothing more than a mundane cog in the machine. All that matters to Yuji is living his life in service to his fellow man. Yuji is the complete antithesis of Sukuna and that is why Sukuna is so greatly irritated by an existence such as his. This is why Yuji will be Sukuna's end, he represents the best humanity can be. Anyway with all that said I believe jjk is a positive story about the strength of humanity. It warns of all of it's imperfections and pitfalls, hell the cursed spirits come from the negative aspects of humanity and you gain strength from not allowing these things to consume you.
@Juryoku113
@Juryoku113 4 ай бұрын
@@blues4509 Well said, currently the story does punish people for being good so some people might think that being selfish is good. Yes, But that's not the message what the author is trying to convey. Yuji will be the one to change this by not abandoning his humanity no matter how adverse the situation is and finally be able to Sukuna with him and his grandfather's wish will be fulfilled. "When you die make sure you are surrounded by people". But I also do think that a strong sense of self is also important as showed how Yuji's too much selflessness of not including himself in the binding vow led to Sukuna taking over Megumi's body. Its more like a balance between selflessness and selfishness.
@xiiir838
@xiiir838 4 ай бұрын
Society would NOT fall appart if everyone looked for their own selfish reason because SOCIETY HASN'T COLLAPSED. If you didn't noticed, we live in a society of competition where every single one of us follow our own desires: it just happens that we team up willingly or forced to achieve our own goals. Do you know what would happen if a society worked together as a huge community? Look at what happened to the USSR. Communal societies have a limit. More individualistic societies are the ones that became the wealthiest and older nations in history. ​@@blues4509
@semekiizuio
@semekiizuio 2 ай бұрын
For me, I think the worst was probably Tsumiki... girl was straight up innocent, her mom put her in the position to be besides a sorcerer prodigy. Because she was closest to Megumi, Kenjaku cursed her to put in Yorozu. She didnt even get a single thought in a panel post flashbacks. But it is what it is. And yes Nobara as well yet I dont think she dead tho.
@cantstresssthiss4565
@cantstresssthiss4565 3 ай бұрын
Never had a problem with the deaths tbh. It was already established that death is a regular thing so im not going to expect most kf the deaths to be emotional. Im more interested if in how it effects the plot and other characters.
@snorm456
@snorm456 4 ай бұрын
I get where gege comes from with how he treats characters. Death is an important part of a story and many authors are afraid to use it and Gege is not at all afraid to kill off his characters. But I feel like this kinda cuts both ways. Characters are essential to a story and killing off to many can be a disservice to the story. Lot of my favorite characters just die and it makes me not want to read it. Sure it makes sense but that doesn't make it any better. I wanted to see more Kashimo and yes his death makes perfect sense but it was bittersweet at best and I just hate how it was handled. I see why people defend the story but I feel like it can't end in a way that satisfies me which yes that's probably the point and would make sense but again, doesn't make it any better.
@mockingbird4346
@mockingbird4346 4 ай бұрын
I think a lot of your reasoning behind these things are cope that sounds nice. For example Gege didnt kill yuji in the first arc because it fit a theme. It was a way of getting readership back with a big cliffhanger when it had started to drop. Also dead characters inherently matter less. The complain people have isnt that no character should be introduced and die tragically but that characters are turned into plot devices that completely wastes potential and it rips the viewer out of the immersion of the story. Some characters needed to die or be completely incapacitated for a couple of reasons (Gojo), while others have made the story objectively worse from both a narrative and writing perspective because they died (Yuki). Kenjaku's death was also a prime example of objectively bad writing. He was a villain introduced with a lot of knowledge and history, his own plans and ideas, a mechanism by which to cause harm to the protagonists and even though it was my favorite character who killed him, his death this early in the final arc made the story feel worse. As a result, instead of Sukuna being plausible to beat through a number of methods that just shouldve killed him so far in the story, hes had to recieve significant handholding from the story so that it can continue. Another opinion I disagree with is Kashimo serving his purpose. He didnt serve one, he showed up, ruined panda's plot point, lost a fight, ceased the exist till gojo fought Sukuna and then died. He didnt add anything to the narrative, provide us with new info or do anything of real value. He could be removed from the story and it would be arguably improved.
@Juryoku113
@Juryoku113 4 ай бұрын
You are completely wrong about Kashimo. Did you skip 238 by any chance?? Saying its doesnt adds anything to the narrative just exposes reading comprehension issues. "It was a way of getting readership back with a big cliffhanger when it had started to drop". You acting like 212 didn't happen immediately after Yuki's death LMAO. "Dead characters matter less" Toji is dead and still has his impact felt through the story. Yuki continually playing a significant part through her soul book and will play a key role in her being a former star plasma vessel. Kenjaku dying is the only bad thing but again the series hasn't ended yet.
@Isotolerant
@Isotolerant 4 ай бұрын
​@@Juryoku113meh, Kashimo could be removed and replaced and nothing much would change since he himself isn't that important which is my main problem with someone that was hyped to be the goat
@Juryoku113
@Juryoku113 4 ай бұрын
@@Isotolerant No one hyped him lil bro except the fans lol. Gege never hyped him. That guy neither has domain nor does he have a CT and ur low IQ brain expected him to take down Sukuna?? XD
@bu11ymaguire
@bu11ymaguire 4 ай бұрын
@@Isotolerant nobody hyped kashimo except kashimo. Even kenjaku was unbothered. But he was very aware about gojo. He was nothing more than ryu and uro to kenjaku. Just a tool to bring more ce up. All the hype was from fans and kashimo. He was certainly the strongest in his period but he was a fodder compared to gojo and sukuna. It always was like that. You got a reading comprehension curse. That's the only problem.
@bu11ymaguire
@bu11ymaguire 4 ай бұрын
Yuji committing suicide is purely a characteristic trait. It wasn't a way to get readership back..lmao you are just hating at this point That scene changed Megumi's view to the point he considers yujis life more important than his. Sets up Yuji as an antithesis to sukuna where Sukuna is even flabbergasted that the brat has this much courage and sets up Yuji as a indomitable character who thinks about everything else first than him. Which backfires and causes the massacre at Shibuya.
@brandanvaquerano5809
@brandanvaquerano5809 4 ай бұрын
We love you dawg
@TheGrouchiestPotato
@TheGrouchiestPotato 3 ай бұрын
With the most recent chapters it just feels repetitive. New characters comes in, they get dumpstered, repeat. SPOILERS but why are we digging into deep layers of side characters like Miguel instead of actually moving forward with the story. Like we all know Miguel is dead within the next chapter or two and in marches the next person to the slaughter.
@BigV24
@BigV24 2 ай бұрын
Where is Hakari 😭
@Kingu
@Kingu 2 ай бұрын
Nobara “dying” made more sense to me and felt genuinely impactful. Yuki got erased as soon as she became relevant so that upset me more. She didn’t serve enough purpose to me and the way she was beaten felt really stupid especially seeing how easily Kenjaku was defeated.
@LillithO
@LillithO 2 ай бұрын
A characters death isn’t good if they didn’t die without potential being wasted, at that point the death means nothing.
@simplysolus8916
@simplysolus8916 4 ай бұрын
Personally, it was Haruta Shigemo that killed the story for me, as he made it feel like the author was just writing the story to kill characters without real purpose. He's a minor character who causes a lot of damage, defeating Nobara and killing/wounding many others, before he gets defeated like the minor character that he is. Despite this, he's back right after this as though Nanami beating him didn't matter, and once again this minor character plays a major role in the story, forcing Megumi to use the technique that would later lead to Gojo's death... and Haruta was only capable of this because of plot armor that was written into the story seconds before his own death. A forced explanation added after the fact. Meanwhile Nobara ignores her own loss, injuries, and advice from Nanami and just dies. Likewise, Dagan, another character who had barely any development causes Maki, Namami, and the old guy's near defeat, and is only beaten because a revived from the dead character acts in an out of character manner and saves everyone... only for the author to invoke fatal wounds on the three survivors. (Maki surviving being killed off in the story for a second point at this time.) Which further highlights the appearance of this out of no where character, Choso, appearing and killing the main character... with us then having a bunch of other characters added out of no where just so more people can die... and when one thinks about how the braided whip came out of no where just to hinder Gojo, the meaning starts falling out of the window because the author is over doing it. Everything is realistic and meaningless so there is little point into investing oneself in characters as they are passerbys who will be killed by passerbys.
@Voideadd
@Voideadd 4 ай бұрын
Because this story is trying to tell you to be selfish . Those are the people who succeed in this world . Yuji accepting his death to choso caused sukuna to appear. Megumi accepting death made Sukuna use MS and kill all those people. Nobara refusing to be selfish and run is what caused her death. These are plot contrivances when it's the literal theme of the story. It's like real life when a nobody side character you've never seen can take it all away from you.
@bu11ymaguire
@bu11ymaguire 4 ай бұрын
Gege literally drew the lifelines of haruta getting cut. It wasn't out of nowhere. And nobara ignoring nanami's advice is literally in her character. Like dude wtf are you even watching. She's a contrast to kusakabe.. Nanami said the situation is for atleast grade 1... But nobara didn't care because she couldn't leave her friends behind. She showed bravery she died. Kusakabe was grade one and was sent to protect people.. but he showed cowardice and great perception of his own abilities and situation. He lived. Stark contrast and actual reality. And your point about maki is flat out wrong. Its great natural progression.. Jogo was in a 1v3.. tapped two of them fast and went out on last one.. then sukuna comes up so he couldn't finish the job with the previous 2. Maki literally lived because she is more durable because of half HR. And jogo couldn't go all out. And choso? Passerby? It's just a skill issue at this point. Try reading something like Jack and Jill first. And then move up with lion and a mouse. And you will learn to read some day. Fcuk Outta here.
@simplysolus8916
@simplysolus8916 4 ай бұрын
​@@bu11ymaguireIt was out of no where. His miracle ability was brought up in the episode after where Nanami would have killed him. I don't buy Nanami would have failed to stop Haruta. Yeah, ignoring advice is within her character; however, her injuries should have prevented her from advancing like she wanted to, which is why I made sure to bring up the injuries as well. You can use that as an excuse for Maki, but both Geto and Jogo have left her for dead as far as the writing went. It wasn't till after events in Shibuya we learn Maki wasn't dead. This doesn't change that the author made it out like she was dead. Yes. Choso is a passerby. When did he get significant focus in the story prior to Shibuya? Typically an author would foreshadow relationships, team, and whatnot by having the group show together ahead of time rather than revealing the relationship after the fact. We only know he was connected to Eso and Kechizu because the author told us, rather than showing us.
@Dan-neil
@Dan-neil 4 ай бұрын
@@simplysolus8916 Just because it wasn't outright stated doesn't mean that shigemo's ability didn't come out of nowhere. The marks under his eyes are literally a part of his design, and when his marks disappear it's subtle forshadowing. You can even notice his markings disappear with every punch from nanami. You might not notice during the moment, but certainly after a rewatch. Also, what injuries? The only significant injuries we see nobara get was the hit to the chin, which she seemed to recover quite well from. and for maki, naobito's death was the same way, we didn't truly know if he was dead until after shibuya. Death doesn't have to be solidified the second it happens. Also when we are introduced to Eso and Kechizu, it's as a set of three with Choso. We get the "Eso lives for kechizu, kechizu lives for choso, and choso lives for me moment." We get Yuji's regret in killing the two, and even after the two's death, we get Choso's "my brother's have died" moment. And obviously when someone kills your brothers you'd want revenge, right? that's plenty of forshadowing for Choso to be out for Yuji and for yuji to confront Choso It's perfectly fine to say that you wanted things to be more obvious and fleshed out but you can't say that the writing wasn't there
@bu11ymaguire
@bu11ymaguire 4 ай бұрын
​@@simplysolus8916 are you an idiot?
@-OUS_J
@-OUS_J 4 ай бұрын
Just wait for Takaba to come back, unleash his reverse comedian, kill Sukuna in one hit whilst he's off guard(merger doesn't happen). And the story just ends abruptly, no post Shinjuku showdown scenes, that's literally just the last chapter.
@kasiazdanowicz9064
@kasiazdanowicz9064 3 ай бұрын
Honestly that would be better than having someone use plot armor to defeat sukuna. At least it would be funny 😂
@BigV24
@BigV24 2 ай бұрын
Wow thoughtful JJK analysis. You got a sub.
@obeeno7653
@obeeno7653 4 ай бұрын
Love the vid and the ds2 majula music lol
@KaijuAlpha999
@KaijuAlpha999 4 ай бұрын
It’s not gojos imagination or delusions, it’s the cursed realm. They were talking about things that would be impossible for gojo to know. Like when Sukuna talks to jogo or when yuji and mahito walk through the snow or like when that one guy saw his dead dog when he fought geto.
@notroddy
@notroddy 4 ай бұрын
thius video was fucking amazing bro holy shit keep it up
@RedShadowAMV
@RedShadowAMV 4 ай бұрын
New radman video you LOVE to see it!
@TakuyaDelahoya
@TakuyaDelahoya 4 ай бұрын
So basically JJK is disappointment kaisen
@joonaheikkero432
@joonaheikkero432 4 ай бұрын
This video is Rad, man
@Watermelon_Man
@Watermelon_Man 4 ай бұрын
JJK is not a tragedy; it’s a torture fantasy. A true tragedy is not just character torture for fun. It’s supposed to be the tragic results of a person’s innate flaws governing their actions and choices. There are a lot of deaths in JJK that have nothing to do with the character making bad choices deserving of death
@rohanking12able
@rohanking12able 4 ай бұрын
How is tragedy. Defined tho
@nishefl0werr
@nishefl0werr 4 ай бұрын
still its not good writing at all..I dont understand how can ppl enjoy the story when there is a lot of plot holes in jjk..gege rushing things and this will lead to bad ending tbh..i dont think ppl will satisfy with it
@Watermelon_Man
@Watermelon_Man 4 ай бұрын
@@rohanking12able I defined it in my original comment…
@RayTheomo
@RayTheomo 4 ай бұрын
​​@@nishefl0werrim literally getting less and less interested in the story at this point because of this. Especially the new line of "Sukuna isnt going all out". Someone else made an incredible observation. Gege had such a hate boner for Gojo for him being so OP. Just to make Sukuna literally even more OP. The blatant hypocrisy just makes me lose all the original hype i had for this story. I truly believe Gege is going to end the story with Sukuna winning and everyone dead.
@jeffreyali1456
@jeffreyali1456 4 ай бұрын
⁠@@nishefl0werrit’s good writing for a while and had less plot holes but then it got way too full of itself as time went on during culling games and now it’s going all over the place
@onii-san3851
@onii-san3851 4 ай бұрын
to be honest I do think that kenjaku would try to become a curse object or at the very least have a curse object of himself somewhere. Because kenjaku is the one that figured out how to become one so he should be able to do that even if it's not like 20 fingers like sukuna
@ejosjek52.87
@ejosjek52.87 4 ай бұрын
Always thought he'd have cursed objects of him out there somewhere
@VoicelessVoid456
@VoicelessVoid456 Ай бұрын
I actually like how gege is dealing with deaths and probably would of done it the same way. Gege is letting the story write itself. Just like life is a flip of a coin. So is Jjk
@VoicelessVoid456
@VoicelessVoid456 Ай бұрын
But i agree with the Kenjaku death..... it feels like a set up
@1hundred1
@1hundred1 4 ай бұрын
Greatest to do it man
@detectivecritics
@detectivecritics 4 ай бұрын
vid so good i switched to my 2nd account and let the ads play to their full 4 minutes 🔥
@R7dman
@R7dman 4 ай бұрын
My goat
@chasinghaze0962
@chasinghaze0962 4 ай бұрын
While I do understand all this, but I just never vibed with Jjk. I just want to atleast get attached to some characters to even care about the plot and the story(character > plot for me), but I never felt this way for a single character in Jjk, except maybe Yuji. maybe because we don't see much character interactions in the early part(it was more like Gege ticking checkboxes on how to start a shounen). That's why I will always prefer CSM over Jjk because the main trio has such great chemistry in less chapters. Spoilers for CSM below: I actually felt sad about the random deaths of Power and Aki. Their lives were also cut short, but the impact was there because they had so much personality and character dynamics with each other. Can't say the same for Nobara or Megumi.
@R7dman
@R7dman 4 ай бұрын
That’s perfectly fair & valid! Everybody has their own likes & dislikes, if you can see the value in it for others that’s all that matters fr. I also really like Chainsaw Man & the stuff you mentioned there too but Jujutsu Kaisen is slightly more effective for me, because I heavily buy into Gege’s style & approach
@chasinghaze0962
@chasinghaze0962 4 ай бұрын
@@R7dman yea I respect the people who enjoy Jjk. I wanted to like it too. I was very excited when I started reading because I heard it is similar to Bleach and YYH. But alas.
@Dark_Mastermc
@Dark_Mastermc 4 ай бұрын
I really wish every shonen mangaka had the same schedule like Fujimoto
@bu11ymaguire
@bu11ymaguire 4 ай бұрын
​@@chasinghaze0962 Its a skill issue bruh.
@zizu-lakaka
@zizu-lakaka 4 ай бұрын
classic CSM fans coming to shit on JJK is never not funny lmao True inferiority complex right there 😅
@alexandrurazvandumitru5744
@alexandrurazvandumitru5744 4 ай бұрын
the problem is he keeps alive the most one dimensional characters and he has one of the worst protagonists ever written. the manga had potential to be the best ever, but all the lore or stories that could have been expanded upon that we re interesting were abandoned for this good vs evil, unconditionally good good guy vs supreme evil bs that has been told 1000 times before with much more emotion than this ever will be. the biggest problem was that none of the characters that died mattered in any way, the impact of nobara on the story does not exist at all, the paralel to gojos former team means nothing, it s just stylistic, all that the deaths acomplished was 1 panel of yuji questioning himself, in a manga in which emotion is not the strongest part. who the hell believes yuji can win vs sukuna, why is his backstory not explored more, why is the power level completely fucked, how is a story where yuji wins in a world where everybody dies just to weaken sukuna interesting. at this point sukuna has to win for it to be interesting in any way.
@Juryoku113
@Juryoku113 4 ай бұрын
Worst protag LMAO. aight bru
@theraikouemp4ror997
@theraikouemp4ror997 4 ай бұрын
​@@Juryoku113 Hes true though. Yuji is a sh*t protagonist even worse than Boruto actually...
@CeratedLotus
@CeratedLotus 2 ай бұрын
​@@theraikouemp4ror997 Bait used to be believable
@305Independent
@305Independent 2 ай бұрын
I honestly don't care how JJK ends anymore so long as Todo survives. I just need one of anime's best bois Aoi Todo to make it to the end of this story and I'll be happy.
@user-fl7by8in5o
@user-fl7by8in5o 4 ай бұрын
Good video👍
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