The Kevdak fight conclusion - From the original campaign to Legend of Vox Machina

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Жыл бұрын

How the final moments of the battle against Kevdak translated to animation.
This was a very stressful fight that lasted for 3 hours in the original game, and you can see it in their faces here.
It could've ended badly on so many occasions, and the reaction/release to the final blow to Kevdak right as he was about to escape is very telling.
The first clip is from Critical Role Campaign 1 Episode 52
The Second clip is from The Legend of Vox Machina Season 2 Episode 10
Critical Role episodes are available to watch free on / @criticalrole
Legend of Vox Machina is available to stream on Amazon Prime

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@Merjia Жыл бұрын

Travis getting the most thematically appropriate nat20's will always send me.

@Reblwitoutacause Жыл бұрын

Also, the thematic 1's 🤣

@ricardodacosta9163 Жыл бұрын

@@Reblwitoutacause "two shit throws, can't get any worse than thi-"

@tripler2833 Жыл бұрын

Remembers me when our party of 3 (Ranger, Druid, Paladin) and some friendly NPCs fought a vampire at Level 4. Things were looking extremely bad, and then, when our Paladin rolled a Nat20 on his attack, also throwing in a Divine Smite, dealing a total of 81 damage, the "How you wanna do this?" felt so fucking satisfying.

@BlackHeartsHope Жыл бұрын

The cask of ale still gets me 😂

@loricho 11 ай бұрын

I've never heard of someone gettiing more clutch 20's, it's incredible XD

@herz5159 Жыл бұрын

Still a genius Laura move to take out Grog as he's about to fall unconcious then drop him to give him the killing blow

@Husky92223 Жыл бұрын

Power couple irl eheh

@Butterzzzz 3 ай бұрын

If you watch the video it’s actually Travis who told Laura to drop him off

@happyninja42 Жыл бұрын

I love that line from Travis "Any chance I can make this reckless?" .....yes um...I think this action is the TEXTBOOK DEFINITION of reckless! 🤣

@zippomage Жыл бұрын

snrk!

@FrontwaysLarry Жыл бұрын

Lol, tonight our barbarian kept running blindly *into* some dust/sand-based earth elementals to deal extra damage, and when asked if they could reckless attack while *inside* the creatures I said the exact same thing.

@BenGally00 8 ай бұрын

I feel like in that moment, kevdak could have had 150 hp left on Matts side of the screen, but there was no way he was letting that not be the killing blow

@michiganrailfan2141 8 ай бұрын

I thought the same thing. Matt is one of those DMs who looks at thing from the cinematic lense. Everything that led up to it, Laura's idea to put Grog in the locket then release him above Kevdak. Travis rolling a nat 20. Matt looked at it and had to have been like "This is an epic ending to an epic fight.

@DRACONAR1US 8 ай бұрын

Yeah, I'm pretty sure Kevdak "died" the moment that natural 20 was rolled, if Matt's reaction to it was any indication. 😂

@thundererodinson1668 4 ай бұрын

As a DM...I've did that once or twice..sometimes , something is just to badass to not give them the full experience.

@belindaluna2067 4 ай бұрын

Matt made a point of saying if Grog had fallen in battle the rest of the herd was just going to keep cutting him up into pieces so...safe to say he had an idea of what would happen if Grog didn't kill Kevdak with that move.

@JESK-rh1tw Ай бұрын

@@thundererodinson1668Agreed. I had a low level fight where one of the players didn’t have a ranged option but was never going to win in a toe to toe contest with the ogre. He climbed up to the second floor of the building they were in, yelled to everyone to get clear, then brought a massive chandelier down on the ogre’s head. This was a new player in only his second session of D&D. As the DM I immediately went (internally) “Damn the HP, you’re getting the killing blow.” Rule of Cool trumps all.

@eliktm4624 Жыл бұрын

Liam yelling "POETIC JUSTICE!" is amazing! There's also something I love about Laura's character being the one to say "Show him who you are" at one of Grog's biggest moments.

@luisernestochaconguerrero778 Жыл бұрын

0:28 man I love how happy is Matt when she says this like he was "Wow that so creative!"

@olavtetteroo4204 Жыл бұрын

Yeah I think it’s important for a lot of DM’s to realise it’s not necessarily you vs the party. You’re making a story together, so if someone wants to do something creative it’s fine to go along with it.

@geoshark12 Жыл бұрын

@@olavtetteroo4204 though matt also knows when to put his foot down and say no

@olavtetteroo4204 Жыл бұрын

@@geoshark12 of course, hardship is a part of a good story

@michiganrailfan2141 Жыл бұрын

@@ChrisTay229 Sometimes I wonder how close Kevdak actually was to dying; Matt saw how creative and epic this sequence was and the fact that Travis rolled a nat 20, being a great story teller gave Grog the kill.

@nahlannentrela5376 Жыл бұрын

Videos like this are *very* useful to legit critters that are telling new fans about the Campaign vs the translation to the Show It's a great way to exemplify "No, this is actually what happened beat for beat in the game they played to make this show"

@SoyDrinker Жыл бұрын

It's honestly even more crazy in the game as well lmao. In the game when Vex picks up Grog he's surrounded by like 6 tightly packed enemies and I think at single digit HP.

@bradleybarnett1469 Жыл бұрын

@Steven Bonnell this is one scenario where I don't believe Matt didn't fudge the rolls a bit. While Grog was downed, there is a 95% chance he was dropped to 0 as well as when he fell. But Rule of Cool trumps all, and unlike a normal DnD game, they're also trying to entertain

@SoyDrinker Жыл бұрын

@@bradleybarnett1469 What part exactly do you think he fudged? Do you think he fudged attack and damage rolls to not knock Grog unconcious? Grog was at like 4 HP after taking like 7-8 hits, and I don't think many of them missed. Also Grog did get downed when he fell, he just got healed after it. Or do you think he fudged the numbers to give Grog the killing blow? Kevdak was right on the verge of death and got healed for 70 HP, and then the party hit him for 73 damage, and then Grog got a massive Brutal Critical crit on him.

@High-LordHarza Жыл бұрын

@@bradleybarnett1469 He didn't fudge any rolls, IIRC the guys surrounding Grog opportunity attacked Vex or had already used their reactions, and Grog couldn't be hit in that either. There was nothing to fudge.

@happyninja42 Жыл бұрын

@@High-LordHarza Even if he did fudge, who cares? I'd probably chalk it up to "yeah they're both barbarians, barbarians frequently have temp hitpoints from rage, and often have that extra perk of "I don't fall down dead until I'm THIS dead" kind of perks to being under the effects of rage.

@bessieburnet9816 Жыл бұрын

Always one of my favourite HDYWDTs. I literally yelled "FOR STRONGJAW" alongside Grog, it's so epic!

@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын

Hi, wasn't expecting to see you here.

@StrawHatBobert 6 ай бұрын

It was one of those memories that came rushing back when watching legend of vox and i did the same. D&D is the best and im glad they were able to animate this.

@Styder111 Жыл бұрын

That "Fuck Yeah!" from Travis in the animated rang to the core. You can so tell he had a blast voicing Grog this season!

@IceMetalPunk Жыл бұрын

Travis Willing-to-go-HAM everyone. And Laura "Smarter Than the DM" Bailey 😂

@calebmorrison1538 Жыл бұрын

Peak power couple.

@dicksonmeister1992 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, just like when she outsmarted him using the Dust of Deliciousness as Jester. That was just pure chaotic brilliance

@TieflingKumasi Жыл бұрын

The look on Matt’s face when Laura said he wanted to put Grog in the locket was brilliant.

@garbagefae Жыл бұрын

and just after this, matt admits that if anyone else had killed Kevdak the fighting wouldn't have stopped. It HAD to be Grog to make the final blow. I watched this live and I wept when I saw it animated.

@nateb7804 Жыл бұрын

Right there with you! There have been many moments where tears of joy have been streaming down my face watching this show, then again watching the cartoon!

@wafflingmean4477 11 ай бұрын

And I love how Matt confirmed if Vex didn't medivac Grog the whole herd was gone to keep firing arrows until he was dead. They wouldn't have stopped at death saves. Everything was so clutch.

@kirstylister1341 Ай бұрын

It was a very historical moment in critical role and dnd

@CrownofMischief Жыл бұрын

I feel like clips like this are a good way to show just how much can be condensed. People wonder how a bunch of 4 hour sessions can be reduced so much, and while there are certainly bits that have been outright cut, there are some that are basically a complete recreation but a 4 min 18 sec clip is reduced to 1 min 7 sec because all the descriptions and scene setting are able to just be shown.

@gtv4005 Жыл бұрын

This is especially true for combat. 1 minute of combat can take hours out-of-character to play out.

@Peter_Cordes Жыл бұрын

@@gtv4005 - 10 rounds (60 seconds) of combat would be a marathon, taking *many* hours with this many players.

@gtv4005 Жыл бұрын

@@Peter_Cordes Yeah. I've been in a party with this many players before, and we were all new. Marathon is an understatement. Was napping in between turns.

@carso1500 Жыл бұрын

@@gtv4005 literaly 1 round of combat is just 6 seconds, a 10 round combat is just like 1 minute of real life action, and those fights can take hours

@bayouboigaming 8 ай бұрын

I honestly cannot believe how accurately this was translated.

@kirstylister1341 Ай бұрын

you can tell travis couldn't wait to say FOR STRONGJAW in the animated series

@jonadamson1201 Жыл бұрын

The only thing more frightening than a Krogan Airdrop is a Grog Airdrop

@JnEricsonx 11 ай бұрын

Then you just hear "heh heh heh....." Grunt would approve.

@nicelizabeth8008 2 ай бұрын

The excitement they all have is why Campaign 1 will always be my favourite. 😂 also Ashley and Travis being besties and hugging is so adorable, plus Ashley hugging Laura too. 🥹 They’re all just too cute.

@eliasroos7185 5 ай бұрын

I love the expression Matt makes when he realizes what she's doing. You can see him think "OH HOLY SHIT" when he puts the pieces together

@TheShiningGuardian 11 ай бұрын

I will never get over Matt's face in this moment. The absolute joy in his eyes as his friends cheer their victory. This moment is so freaking awesome for the story and the game, but Matt's reaction is a reminder of why I love DMing for my friends.

@RoninXDarknight Жыл бұрын

One of, if not, my favorite fight in campaign 1 and they totally did it justice. Only thing I wish they did a bit better in the animated series was to show exactly how messed up everyone else was aside from Vax...and maybe Keyleth, iirc, because this was seriously close to a TPK in the original campaign. Aside from the epic Grog & Vex HDYWDT, the entire fight was pretty spectacular: Grog's 1v1 w/Kevdak before calling on the rest of VM for help; Percy nearly amputating Kevdak's arm from range; Vax weaving around the battlefield like a friggin blur; Scanlan getting a clutch Hold Person off on Greenbeard; Pike tanking multiple enemies at once. And even though Keyleth wasn't particularly effective in this fight due to crappy rolls, she tried some crazy stuff as well. If there was one battle to sum up the pure chaos of VM, this is definitely the one.

@Reblwitoutacause Жыл бұрын

Also should have included Scanlan's mistake in the fight. . .

@frostreaper1607 7 ай бұрын

Percy falling of the roof and still doing enough damage nullifying the massive heal Kevdak got from Greenbeard was one hell of a tense moment.

@michaelgrey1503 6 ай бұрын

And keeping the title "The Kill Box" when they could have used something more cinematic. I remember seeing the title of the next episode on Prime at the time and getting so giddy because I knew what fight was coming up.

@aboyle524 Жыл бұрын

I love Liam holding his arms out with the look of glee on his face just before Matt says hdywtdt. He’s like “give it to me”.

@Vampandamonium Жыл бұрын

2:42

@kobold_sushi_executive_chef 4 ай бұрын

Dealing damage by sacrificing health, the true barbarian class resource

@jackdog06 7 ай бұрын

I will never not love Matt’s realisation moment when Laura clarifies at the start

@dylanharrison9597 3 ай бұрын

I love how in the animation Vex asks Grog if he wants to do something crazy and his FUCK YEA being the "if they're willing" consent to go in the trinket.

@garethrobertson5502 Жыл бұрын

I'm so happy how well this played out, Vex's SHOW HIM WHO YOU ARE! Gives me goosebumps. Just over all a perfect scene

@LydiaTereK Жыл бұрын

*P O E T I C J U S T I C E!!!!*

@ghillieassassin8419 Жыл бұрын

Trinket having someone's arm in his mouth with that person on the ground and they both stop mid maul to witness what happens is hilarious.

@speed150mph Жыл бұрын

I gotta say, I love this. Before Vox Machina, I heard of DnD but never saw it played before. I’ve only now started watching the campaign and have truly fallen in love with it. It’s like reading a good book, but your on the edge of your seat because you want to see what happens next, but deep down you know it’s not like a book where your can kinda guess the plot. You have no clue what’s going to happen because they have no idea what’s going to happen. The fates of the characters rest with the ingenuity of the players and the luck of the dice.

@pierluigidipietro8097 Жыл бұрын

the magic of RpG

@shannonwatson8023 Жыл бұрын

The “show him who you are” was the best part tho!!

@rgractor 8 ай бұрын

Talisen’s faith in dice gods is solidified in this moment.

@tripler2833 11 ай бұрын

Matts delayed reaction on Lauras plan was just too f-ing good.

@dingus4260 4 ай бұрын

The absolutely explosive cheering 2:44 just makes me think how excellent and powerful a good DM is to DnD

@kherubim1 Жыл бұрын

"And I sink the ack right into his nex"😄

@Reblwitoutacause Жыл бұрын

Adrenaline is a helluva drug!

@saphari22 Жыл бұрын

If there's a top ten HDYWTDT moments from campaign one, THIS RIGHT HER IS MY NUMBER 1! Original stream or LoVM, just 😚👌

@manvites Жыл бұрын

This is def in my top 2, but I always go back to the search for grog 2 nat 20's and Travis getting that 130+ dmg to get the killing blow

@6fiend Жыл бұрын

@@manvites so many epic HDYWTDT to choose from, but that one from the search for Grog is definitely right up there!

@Peter_Cordes Жыл бұрын

Part of the reason this one's at the top is that the party gambled everything to go all-in on the fight in general, and then on this specific attack since Grog would be knocked unconscious by the fall damage whether he hit or missed. If anyone other than Grog had gotten the killing blow on Kevdak, the herd wouldn't have stopped fighting, since it was Grog that issued the challenge. Possible TPK except for those who can stealth very well or fly (wildshape with a passenger if kiki had any uses left?), and could very easily have been at least one character death as they tried to escape / retreat. If so, they'd have to sneak back in after a long rest to try to recover the corpse for a Raise Dead, if the corpse was still intact.

@henryknippling2408 6 ай бұрын

⁠⁠@@6fiendwhat does that acronym mean?

@6fiend 6 ай бұрын

@@henryknippling2408 How Do You Want To Do This?

@StrawHatBobert 3 ай бұрын

Ashley standing up and yelling “FUCK YOU!” is so wonderful. I actually yelled with Grog “FOR…STRONGJAW!!!” With the show and it was an amazing experience

@aBrokenShard 3 ай бұрын

I remember this moment vividly. What a way to conclude your character arc! That whole fight Grog was behind and it did not look like he could win it......until Laura pulled out this absolute crazy stunt and Travis rolled a Nat 20 to boot! Epic. Got to love how faithful they stayed to it the series. I mean why would you change a single thing anyway.

@Wavypringles7745 9 ай бұрын

Anything that Matt doesn’t expect is always funny

@ZarMationStudios18 Жыл бұрын

"1's and 20's man, you gotta stop this!"

@demonchildDLC 8 ай бұрын

I get chills everytime. I said "get him, Grogy" right as he was dropping on Kevdak.

@myriadworlds8434 5 ай бұрын

The joy and excitement at that nat20 and them Matt saying "how do you want to do this" is always amazing, love these guys.

@dariusdurandal7501 Жыл бұрын

They basically dropped a grogbomb 🤣

@youshallnotpass567 5 ай бұрын

This is one of my favorite C1 moments it’s so fucking good!

@oldfrend Жыл бұрын

season 1 was ok but season 2 my mind was blown pretty much the whole time. so good.

@dsynjanzieljavan7637 Жыл бұрын

One of my favorite things in my campaign is when my players are in a sketchy situation and one of them says, “remember that time on Critical Role?” And the whole table looks up like, “oh lord…we’re about to do something crazy” 😂

@lazyliam7402 Жыл бұрын

Watching this happen on the animated show I remembered this day like it was yesterday. So many nostalgic moments. I loved it all so much!

@ajaguar27 Жыл бұрын

I keep rewatching this scene in TLOVM and I cry every single time. It's so, so, so good. The whole episode is just gorgeously and lovingly done.

@brendanjewels4889 8 ай бұрын

Grog killing Kevdak will always be my favorite Critical Role moment

@yalemiller8121 Жыл бұрын

One of the best moments in all of critical role

@antonionunez3759 Жыл бұрын

One of the greatest moments from campaign one and the animated series!!!

@Keltain 5 ай бұрын

My mom, who was not a critter, didn’t believe me when I said they didn’t write this for the show. The joy in my critter heart when I got to tell her about watching to happen live all those years ago… The series has really made her understand why my Thursday nights are so special to me

@Rygat 8 ай бұрын

4:45 TACTICAL NUKE, INCOMING

@orangeknight2441 Жыл бұрын

Absolute chills

@draith1793 Жыл бұрын

One of the most bad ass moments from a bad ass character… STRONGJAW!!!

@eJw2742 2 ай бұрын

It's insane to see how a shared story can make grown-ups enthused by a dice roll.

@Mafke Жыл бұрын

Favorite episode so far

@alexandra9825 5 ай бұрын

I just finished watching C1 and this is still one of the coolest and craziest moments from the whole campaign, just had to watch it again

@jgillesen 6 ай бұрын

Incredible freeze-frame at 2:46

@ndstumme Жыл бұрын

FYI, description is incorrect. This is from Episode 52, not 55. The later is the Umbrasyl fight.

@danielstephens1185 11 ай бұрын

I sometimes wonder what Kevdak thought right before impact as he sees Grog hurtling down at him. "What in...oh...s**t!"

@mikewilson8145 6 ай бұрын

I had a situation a little similar to this when I was in a small group. My character was half drow half wood elf, godly dexterity and wielded two katanas. Our party was being surrounded by bad guys but I heard and saw them. I was able to pick out the leader, sprinted toward him and as he brought up his weapon, I preformed a flip-twist draw one of my swords and as I landed, I rested my sword on the leaders shoulder with the cutting edge pinned against the throat of the leader. It was a natural 20 with plus 9 for intimidation. I wish I had the time and the popularity to play with these amazing people. Not to mention it would give headway to the Drizzt tales.

@jakisz Жыл бұрын

That was a good episode.

@bigbastard7582 6 ай бұрын

Seeing my favorite moment in all 3 campaigns animated makes me so happy

@Kalah_ Жыл бұрын

I remember this fight - still my favourite of Campaign 1. Scanlan MVP and Vex genius at the end. :D

@mattallen5335 Жыл бұрын

Watching the campaigns here and then watching the show is like reading the book and watching the movie

@imthepariah160 Жыл бұрын

Epic!

@simonsayz3925 Жыл бұрын

please continue this as ive watched vox machina but not the critical role ttrp yet. great wor ty!

@j-dawg4774 Жыл бұрын

2:28 Ashley's inner Ellie

@LameryLame Жыл бұрын

this was the best moment in the animated series so far

@MarioMan2010 7 ай бұрын

I did this with my barbarian friend except I was a dragon in dive bombing mode with him as my payload With the cleric on my back in case he died.

@yew2oob954 Жыл бұрын

Vex be like....Grog....I....choose....YOU!!! PokeGrog

@krzysztofwrona2426 Жыл бұрын

I mean - he even said his name "Strongjaw" lika a good pokemon...

@dnf-dead Жыл бұрын

Epic move

@isaacfrentheway4416 Жыл бұрын

The almighty power that is, a nat 20.

@Voltie_ Жыл бұрын

I remember watching this scene in tears, the Kevdak fight is still (up to c2 ep50 so far) the best dnd fight i've ever had the pleasure to witness

@Leach-ez7dq Жыл бұрын

Disappointed they didn't use Matt's description of Kevdak and have his ear cut off and cheekbone/jaw exposed.

@albertelias4664 Жыл бұрын

Same but it was still well done

@craigwilson2212 Жыл бұрын

I imagine they tried to keep it in, but it may have been a little bit much for the animators. They've talked about trying to keep a much cannon in the show but somethings they just can't keep.

@frenchtantan 16 күн бұрын

Looking back, it's probably an animation choice to best transcribe Kevdak's anger from losing. It's more cathartic that way imo, his clenched teeth show perfectly that mix of rage and pain, with a hint of fear. It would be harder to transcribe that with an exposed jaw methinks, at least in animation form.

@Henbot Жыл бұрын

Voice acting top notch

@jlensher Ай бұрын

The entire party knew what was up the entire time - it took Matt until 1:39 to realise what they were up too. Peak DnD Group Brain

@0saintclark0 6 ай бұрын

Probably the best HDYWTDT moment in all of critical role.

@wwpdmedia Жыл бұрын

Anyone noticed there Grog does the 'fist reload' from Henry Cavill in Mission Impossible, after raging? Or am I imagining it? If it is real, epic nod to the nerd Cavill is 😉

@DavidGonzalez-zl3dz 3 ай бұрын

I did kind of miss Vex being all fucked up on the way there. A few of the herd got swings on her as she went by. Like she fully could've been knocked out on the way down and out

@Hulkindex 2 күн бұрын

Ashley hugging travis is so cute 😂

@freya002YT Жыл бұрын

❤️

@ApatheticGod0 6 ай бұрын

4:34 it didn’t make sense to me for a second how grogwas holding the guy 😊back, but he’s pushing against the man’ left forearm, a good way to indicate heks on low health (as it’s not a game and he doesn’t have hip so to speak) as the man could at any moment move his arm and instantly kill grog. Nice detail

@Sirax123 9 ай бұрын

A lot more gory on the tabletop

@zippomage Жыл бұрын

I LOVE THIS GAME! STROOOOOOOONGJAAAAWWWWWW!!@!!!

@gerettdiamond Жыл бұрын

Even if you watch the shows, give the podcast(?) a listen. It of course gives more details and things are slightly different. Im loving both

@remingtonwright6796 2 ай бұрын

Just call Vex the Night Witch.

@failedhybrid551 Жыл бұрын

i recon mat was like yeah he dies in reality he had plenty of hp left

@kbrautig22 8 ай бұрын

Fk yea

@anormobilegaming2237 8 ай бұрын

That was very Vex thing to do and Laura did one of the best DnD smart move in here. He saved Grog's life and killed Kevdak.

@Artahe 5 ай бұрын

So Vex turned Grog into a pokemon?

@HexGirl420 11 ай бұрын

Is Travis wearing a Labyrinth shirt???!!

@_grumpytoad Жыл бұрын

I can't wait for you to do more compilation videos of season 3: Fearne Insight checks, Pâté appearances, Fearne triggering Imogen's fear of heights, Chetney hitting on people, FCG flat-earthing, etc! 🤣🤣🤣

@IceMetalPunk Жыл бұрын

I really hope we get a Bell's Hells animated series after Mighty Nein. If only for Fearne's chaos 😂

@zippomage Жыл бұрын

@@IceMetalPunk who knew that Ashley was the ultimate chaos gremlin.

@2BeeAdorable 7 ай бұрын

not enough gore in the animated version in my opinion, but godDAMN is it awesome to see that moment come to life.

@gabrielraburn6882 Жыл бұрын

I preferred this fight in campaign more than the fight against thordak. This one felt way more intense to me.

@adiboobruh6453 Жыл бұрын

This [besides ******] is my favourite howdeydodeydoodis

@DoppEff Жыл бұрын

So are they normally play this and they made a animation series about their campaign?I don't know about these things can someone explain to me please

@TimpanistMoth_AyKayEll Жыл бұрын

Yes, Critical Role is a "bunch of nerdy-ass voice actors" who stream D&D on Twitch and KZfaq. The animated show is adapted from their first campaign, Vox Machina. It was originally a Kickstarter (they asked for 75 thousand and got 11 million dollars, because we fans of CR, known as Critters, have ABSOLUTELY ZERO CHILL) before Amazon picked it up. The players/creators have retained a lot of creative control over the show, being heavily involved with the writing and design of each episode, and of course they voice their own characters. If you've played more than a few video games or watched Western/dubbed animation in the past several decades, you've heard their voices before. The most well-known is probably Ashley Johnson who voiced and did mocap for Ellie in both The Last Of Us games.

@JnEricsonx 11 ай бұрын

@@TimpanistMoth_AyKayEll I knew Liam from Marvel Heroes online cause he voiced Nightcrawler. And now that I'm watching C2, Im like, "Well yeah"