The KEY to BATCH PRODUCTION with a LASER ENGRAVER

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In this video I use the CNC router to make a template for laser engraving 4" ceramic circle drink coasters on the Ortur Laser Master 2 Pro.
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@Samcraftcom 3 жыл бұрын

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@rickharris4962 2 жыл бұрын

3D laser printer

@johnkurtinecz5774 3 жыл бұрын

Vey nice! You could also add a small semi-cricle to the perimeter of the template circle so you could use a finger to eject the tile.

@sadheartcreaciones 2 жыл бұрын

A 90 degree squared corner would be enough to position the circle ;)

@revgregory 2 жыл бұрын

@@sadheartcreaciones @S.C. I was thinking the same, a circle is total overkill. The nice thing about a 90° is that it is also size agnostic so you could have multiple center marks for different sizes and even various shapes.

@DMMC 2 жыл бұрын

Love love your videos! Thank you! I'm so inspired and love your honesty. God bless y'all

@xN0v1Kx 3 жыл бұрын

Laser a circle the same size into your bed, works for me. No need for a jig, you could do several of them at once

@alsaffarstudios Жыл бұрын

Well done, thanks for sharing this idea with us 🙏🏼

@stevemossmakes2306 2 жыл бұрын

Sam, very nice coverage of the template. I find my self watching a lot of your videos. You're getting very good! Small thoughts. Make the inner circle a cut through, or at least much deeper. You've mentioned issues with the feet on some of your slate coasters. If the coaster rests on the outer ring, you take the feet height out of the equation. John K. suggested a recess to get finger on to the coaster easer. Could also notch the outer ring by an inch or so, then press down on the coaster where the notch is, and the coaster will pop out. One final thought. With that small engraver, and since your' batching out coasters. Cut the template into the mounting board. When ready for a different batch, reattach the engraver to a different template/mounting board. Then you don't have to reset zero, just home it, set Z and off you go.

@davidbell7658 Жыл бұрын

G'day from Australia, love live love your brutally honest remarks and mistakes, we are all human so being realistic is much appreciated, THANKYOU ! I am a 65 year old incapicated air force vetran and am looking to import the pro model, your advice is welcome, thankyou !

@FrankSchwarzfree 2 жыл бұрын

Your information is great and the beard is on point! Keep it up....you made me buy a laser!

@rexturner8208 2 жыл бұрын

Entertaining & helpful....THANKS!

@torvaga 2 жыл бұрын

Make it easier on your self. Make a small pocket for fingers on each side of the main pocket. The circle stays in place, and you don't have to "pry" it out :) Receiving my Ortur tomorrow, and feel that I know a lot after watching your videos. Thanks for making them! Got myself a SO3 as well :)

@apogeewoodworking655 3 жыл бұрын

great work!! just some thoughts: the coaster fit before you take the template off of the cnc so you can go back and increase the diameter without redoing everything, add a notch or something on the edge of the circle to take the coasters out easily

@girishshah8929 Жыл бұрын

We call it a jig if it's meant for plain locating. If it clamps the workpiece additionally, then it's a fixtures. I have a huge number of them on my shopfloor.. They are mighty useful when it comes to producing things in huge quantities. This video was very engaging. If a product doesn't fit well with its locating jig, we know for sure that that particular part deviated too much from the part print dimensions. Some jigs are deliberately made to weed out oversized parts. But in your case 0.02 mm here or there doesn't do any harm. Thanks for a great video - as always.

@GrizzlyoftheNorth 3 жыл бұрын

Guess this is on the list for my cnc this month besides clea in up my vbit miters and a flat pack table. I have a few coasters to make for the family and friends

@TheCartoons4you 3 жыл бұрын

You are my inspiration sir! Thank you, and your family for your videos! Mucho

@Samcraftcom 3 жыл бұрын

Wow, thanks!!!

@TP-si3km Жыл бұрын

😃👍Danke für das Video. Gute Idee.

@ericdickson2248 2 жыл бұрын

I really enjoy your videos. I have an engraver and a CNC have all these ideas but get stuck figuring what to make. You do inspirit me to just go for it

@Samcraftcom 2 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear it!

@buildfrom 2 жыл бұрын

Very inspiring.

@jeremyphillips6229 2 жыл бұрын

You could do like I would at work and make a jig with the engraver too. for the coasters it would be super simple to create a vector on a sheet of engravable plastic set to the size you can manage within your work area, then save that file as a template. You then can import existing coaster files or create new ones on that template and you'll have your scaled repeatability a lot quicker and cheaper than going cnc for something that simple. Only catch is to make sure you have it setup to mount the same every time you use the jig. Our engraver is a large enclosed unit with a 36x24 in workspace with fencing so i can always butt up sheet materials or metal to my 0X, 0Y everytime. Another solution if you do multiple sized coasters is make that same file with the circles bigger than you need, and with that same plastic sheets, create rings that step or reduce the size down to whatever additional smaller sizes needed.

@risbill1 2 жыл бұрын

I have thought about using a piece of pegboard that I could line up with two corners of the laser. Then set up the work piece with some dowel pegs to keep it in place. I'd probably have to design and 3d print something to accommodate various sizes but I think it's worth exploring.

@dwisecup51 3 жыл бұрын

I 🐝 jamming to Sam's music. Gonna order me a set of Sam's coasters. Got Angela's soap now need a.🐝 coaster.

@Samcraftcom 3 жыл бұрын

*bows* Why thank you! :)

@ranieldenicen.marpuri6544 2 жыл бұрын

If your material source has differences in size but still not that big or obvious like a millimeter or so, you can shape the template shrinking from the top all the way down, essentially shaped like a cone so, no matter the diameter itll naturally center .

@mitz0974 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for share Sam

@firefighter3b 2 жыл бұрын

Hello Sam! Why don’t you drill 2 holes in diagonal corners and pin your jig to the base so you won’t be able to bump it accidentally? You can lock in coordinates for center line.

@billisherenc 2 жыл бұрын

You put out some great videos, I also follow your other channel too. I am looking into getting a Laser Cutter and Engraver Machine, and I have been watching a lot of different channels so far I like how you do step by step in your process of creating a project unlike a lot of other channels that speed by with barely any real explanation. I do have a question about your finished product of coasters of any type, do you put a finishing coat on them after they are engraved or cut finishes? I am looking forward to future videos from the New Shop!!!!

@soniamuniz2811 2 жыл бұрын

Nice vid. I am interested in the board template that you have attached to the laser. Do you have a vid on that?

@bryanslittlegarage5724 3 жыл бұрын

Nice Sam ❤️

@OhHeyTrevorFlowers 3 жыл бұрын

I wonder if the router’s esteps are off such that it’s cutting undersize. I don’t have a shapeco but most have a calibration process to match the Gcode distances with the actual travel distances.

@briancarlsen4772 2 жыл бұрын

You oculd have also done a channel to one side that allowed you to lift it out even if it was a bit to deep a pocket. But cool. I just boght a lazeer a couple days agao and should have it early next month. Been wanting one for a long time and was looking at getting something that would work on a 3d printer or my CNC but decided to get something a bit more specific use case than a multi use sort of thing.

@jbratt 2 жыл бұрын

As a bike riding woodworker I got a kick out of the Park tools 👍 🚲

@Samcraftcom 2 жыл бұрын

They're the best!! :)

@davidrowe1254 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Sam. Could you make a video someday on designing in Carveco?

@raymunro9894 2 жыл бұрын

You are one of the better presenters... others who think they are gods gift to Stephen Spielberg for his next movie. Nicely done. Good info.

@Tampa-Todd Жыл бұрын

Did you pre-treat those white coasters with anything? Paint? What were the settings you used to engrave?

@rpjames11 2 жыл бұрын

I know this is late and might not get seen/considered, but putting a chamfer on the inside of the template will self center your coasters. This helps take any variance in the coaster into account.

@snydercustomwoodwork 2 жыл бұрын

So I see that you use Carveco maker, I have been considering switching from Carbide myself. Would be awesome if you could do a video review on it when you have time

@j4nch 2 жыл бұрын

Where did you get the nice ceramic tiles?

@JackDodgers 11 ай бұрын

1 plaque of the size of the laser engraver area with two small retangular stoppers, one at the left side (if you're right handed) and one at the bottom, wouldn'tt do the job?

@deannaoverstreet4146 3 жыл бұрын

You are extremely smart! Tell Angela hello!

@larrystone5749 3 жыл бұрын

Great job enjoyed it thx for sharing and the info Be safe God Bless

@Samcraftcom 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, you too!

@FowlerFamilyFarm 3 жыл бұрын

Great video Sam it will be easy to patch up coasters now with your logo on them

@Samcraftcom 3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely! :)

@jhgoytia 2 жыл бұрын

Sam, I have the same laser and shapeoko. Can you share, or tell me where to get, your grid may for the laser please?!?! Thank you sir.

@DavidRobinson-mx6cl 3 жыл бұрын

Ever tried to make soap dishes ? Angie would be excited!

@FrankSchwarzfree 2 жыл бұрын

should I lasr or router? Completely new and have no equiptment.

@kencharm2909 2 жыл бұрын

As I build a pen turning business I've been watching lots of videos like this. I have a question. Why not just use a square with markings appropriate to the software and hardware? For something round, assuming all of them were the same diameter, you would put the first one in the corner of the square. The graduations on the square would give you x,y of the center, and then you could butt more coasters up to the first one in both x and y directions until you've met the limit of the machine. There may be a VERY good reason why you can't do this. I'm still in the planning phases so I don't even have the equipment to test my idea. But I am curious. Bonus question...why have you chosen diode lasers over CO2? For production, aren't the CO2 lasers faster? I appreciate the help!

@mystic22222 2 жыл бұрын

I would've just painted the first template with something thick to tighten it up. Your second one really didn't change that much and in fact I *still* would've painted that one, just with something a little thinner.

@bryansnapp7 2 жыл бұрын

Could do a U shape space so the coaster slides in to flush, and then slides out. No prying.

@davewraxall8021 2 жыл бұрын

May I offer a suggestion? If you add a piece of thin ribbon, so that it goes underneath your coaster, it will allow you to lift them out very easily and take up a little of the slop, to keep the coasters positioned accurately. Hope this helps.

@roncournoyer7794 Жыл бұрын

Press 2 dowels in a pc of wood. Clamp the wood to the table. Put the coaster against the 2 dowels. Repeats as long as the coasters are the same size.

@jrobinson9239 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve never used laser engraving tool before. I’m interested in doing laser engraving as a way to make extra money or possibly start a business me and my wife. How easy is it to learn. I’m pretty fast learner.

@franklawrence8845 9 күн бұрын

Are you able to engrave on rubber?

@rak7101 2 жыл бұрын

Can the laser be used to cut a template?

@kathylaug5234 3 жыл бұрын

Amazing! I have trouble with Facebook!!😂😂😂

@chucklenz9011 Жыл бұрын

Check out the flack shack for a temp let for creating a fixture. He sells them on Etsy for around $3.00.

@lunakoala5053 2 жыл бұрын

1) Why not install physical stops at 0,0 along the respective axis. Now you can just slide your template against it. So in theory you could have sticked with version 1.1 without having to home in between. 2) Without owning a NAS device you could also just set up a network share on your PC and save to that locally to then access it over LAN.

@chucklenz9011 Жыл бұрын

While ur at it create an origin on ur cnc. A simple 3 point origin would work.

@glenschumannGlensWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks.

@musc258 Жыл бұрын

Would you add a finger hole?, or do you see no need?

@arentgrimmius282 2 жыл бұрын

Thx

@mikebuzz5784 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Sam. Love your videos. Is there a reason you didn't get a laser attachment for your Shapeoko? I have the Pro XXL and was thinking about getting the Jtch 7 watt kit. Any thoughts?

@Samcraftcom 2 жыл бұрын

Price was one factor, but more importantly the fact I would loose the ability to run my CNC while also doing any laser work. At this moment of my small business and production, that's not a big deal (I've had a huge problem in wood suppliers that's killed my woodworking production) but down the road I could see it being a factor. In addition to the above, I don't see the CNC moving fast enough to make the machine time spent pan out for profit. Laser engravers travel much faster than the CNC does and get the job done quicker. I have a few laser engraver videos on my channel if you're interested to see some and how they pan out.

@halsteadlaserengraving372 2 жыл бұрын

Can you make a video on your hard drive set up?

@christianaltmann7156 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Sam again a very nice video! How do u prepare your coasters? They come out nice dark in the lasered area but is it because of the spray you are using or what is the reason for painting before you laser them?

@Samcraftcom 3 жыл бұрын

You've unknowingly opened a can of worms! LOL I'm working on a video about just that subject, but it's not going to turn out as one may expect. :)

@muppetarms8406 3 жыл бұрын

You can stick some low grit sand paper to the bottom so if you bump it it should not move much if at all

@Samcraftcom 3 жыл бұрын

Great idea!

@zfotoguy71 Жыл бұрын

Why not use your laser to make the jig? Also, you can keep tight tolerances and just add a finger hole slot off the circle to easily grab the coaster.

@shuflie Жыл бұрын

Nice idea but wouldn't it be simpler to switch from using centre origin to lower left origin and using two pieces of wood at right angles and parallel to the laser engraver edges as a jig? Doing this would allow you use the same jig for any circular, rectangular, hexagonal etc. object of any size that fits in the work area as long as its edges can reference repeatably to the two bits of wood. Easy to remove as well as you'd have two open sides to come in from.

@activeincolorado 3 жыл бұрын

Just a thought Sam. Since you are interested to increase your batch production would it not make sense to make a template the size of the laser bed and have the ability to make 5 or more at the same time? Just curious!

@zapa1pnt 3 жыл бұрын

I, immediately, had the same thought.

@Samcraftcom 3 жыл бұрын

It's been in the works this past week! :)

@mystic22222 2 жыл бұрын

In fact, that's a feature built right into the software. It's called the matrix function.

@CaptnDirt Жыл бұрын

@@Samcraftcom Make the pockets square so you can easily remove the coasters.

@girishshah8929 Жыл бұрын

@@CaptnDirt Yes. I thought about a similar idea - having two depressed tabs slightly bigger than the fingers so fingers can access the periphery of the workpiece.

@Kimdino1 2 жыл бұрын

Thought: Is is worth adding a nonslip backing or pads to the template? A bit of extra protection against having to reset your centre position after an accidental knock.

@Samcraftcom 2 жыл бұрын

Good idea!

@samuelsmall8449 3 жыл бұрын

Great video Sam. Would you please do a Carveco design video?

@Samcraftcom 3 жыл бұрын

What would you like to know or see about it?

@thanemakes5377 3 жыл бұрын

Really like this… a thought, maybe suggest off set and overlap a Forstner bit one the right and left of the circle to allow your fingers to grip the edge rather than just your nails….

@Samcraftcom 3 жыл бұрын

Well that's just smart!! :) I didn't even think of that one. LOL

@karlriley1314 2 жыл бұрын

Why just one?? Would it have been better to have 3 rows and 3 columns, 9 tiles, so you can laser more at a time than just one at a time.

@espressomatic Жыл бұрын

Here's a tip for next time. Make the pocket a square. And make 10-12 of them tiled so you don't have to do one at a time.

@chucklenz9011 Жыл бұрын

Now calculate ur unload and load time and see if it wouldn’t be wise to have 2 fixtures in your laser one working and one unloading/ reloading.

@stevespringer8385 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Sam, great videos. Can you please provide a source for those CNC hold own clamps. Thanks

@Samcraftcom 2 жыл бұрын

The green ones came with my Shapeoko Pro from Carbide 3D. Word on the street is you can send an email to sales@carbide3d.com and they'll get you some. :)

@stevespringer8385 2 жыл бұрын

@@Samcraftcom thanks

@purpguy69 3 жыл бұрын

Could you use dowel pins to keep the jig in place? Just curious

@Samcraftcom 3 жыл бұрын

That's exactly where I've gone with my next template I've been working on making this week. :)

@jesusislord2457 3 жыл бұрын

🎉 YAY YOU 🎉

@Ashton60578 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Sam. What if you cut a little notch on the side of the circle so you can lift the coasters out when finished.

@MarkJonesRanger 3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking that exactly. Nice jig and it works well.

@Samcraftcom 3 жыл бұрын

Well that would have just been smart! LOL

@donovanpl 2 жыл бұрын

Here’s a simpler way: get a base board. Glue two pieces of wood 90 degrees to each other. That’s it. When you are ready to engrave, secure the base board to your waste board. Jam the tile up into the 90 degree boards. Well, I understand if you want to use the CNC machine. He-he-he

@mrgoodtime87 3 жыл бұрын

What kind of power panels you have in your shop. I've been told I'm going to need another transformer installed on the power pole. I like your shop layout and is what Im working towards. Do you know if your panel is 200, 400, or 600 amps...thanks for your help buddy

@Samcraftcom 2 жыл бұрын

Our main service entrance at the house is 100 amps. My workshop and my wife's soap making shed are running off a 60 amp service from the main line. We've never maxed them or the home out on usage in the 6 years we've lived here. Her shop is the newest to the mix, but is very minimal on power draw.

@mrgoodtime87 2 жыл бұрын

@@Samcraftcom Thank you buddy....this helps a lot. Ill have table saw, dust collection, band saw, planer/drum sander, and CNC. I will keep some things unplugged if I need to. Rome wasnt built in a day lol...THANKS!

@kjk9771 2 жыл бұрын

I've been watching videos like crazy lately (many of yours) and just ordered the Ortur today. I keep hearing that lasers get confused by white things and I keep seeing people paint things black so that the white is exposed in the finished product. What am I missing? Your coasters look great!

@xm4rksth3spot37 Жыл бұрын

white is highly reflective so its hard for the laser to penetrate. although im sure youve figured that out by now

@mikemcgaha2506 3 жыл бұрын

Just a question would it not speed up the laser if your template could hold 3 or 4 coasters and have the same template save in the laser program?

@gulfportflamefighter4545 3 жыл бұрын

✅✅ if your really wanting to ramp up production

@Samcraftcom 3 жыл бұрын

It would surely speed up the labor! I'm looking into a solution for such a thing. I would really like to be able to load the machine up with a batch and let it run!

@pm2498 3 жыл бұрын

I need to know - How loud really are these and also - does that vacuum really work that good and this is no mess?

@Samcraftcom 3 жыл бұрын

Do you mean the CNC? If so, my shop vac dust collection system works great! The noise though... L-O-U-D that router screams. You won't want to run it without hearing protection.

@DragonGateDesign 3 жыл бұрын

nice work..finger holes though. looks like you could fit 6 coasters on the engraver at a time

@Samcraftcom 3 жыл бұрын

I'm working on a template now that I think will let me to 12 at once. Testing it out tomorrow to see if it actually fits. :) Video to follow on that one + my thoughts about this one, etc. :)

@johncolley7643 2 жыл бұрын

As a retired engineer I think the circle alone is problematic as you need clearance all round to get the disc in, I recommend cutting a vee shape from scrap thinner than your product and mounting it on another base piece , then as you put the disc in pull it to register into the vee that way you can have positive location in exact same place each time and no problems removing it after completion as most of the disc will be away from the location point ,it will also accommodate different size circles and if rotated can be used as a location datum point for square or rectangular parts on one of the corners, just a thought.

@AndTheCorrectAnswerIs 2 жыл бұрын

I just use the laser to cut a circle out of paper with a dot in the middle. I then hold the paper on top of the coaster line it up, remove the paper, and I'm ready to go. No wooden templates needed.

@leozacic 2 жыл бұрын

Where can I buy the orange shield?

@Samcraftcom 2 жыл бұрын

It comes with the laser. I've not found anything like it for sale by itself.

@ABCRK18 2 жыл бұрын

how long does that laser actually take to make your most intricate design on those coasters? is that the 12 minutes?

@Samcraftcom 2 жыл бұрын

I would say so, but I also design them to not be overly heavy on engraving.

@davidhrutfiord2537 Жыл бұрын

Couple of finger notches on either side of the circle would be better than levering it out with your finger nails. Less chance of moving the template.

@JohnK8 2 жыл бұрын

Just put two pins (button head screws) in the template instead of cutting the hole. Then just slide the coaster against the two pins.

@jrobinson9239 2 жыл бұрын

Sam is Facebook the only way to contact you?

@ClintonCaraway-CNC 3 жыл бұрын

I'm wondering why you can't now make a fixture that holds multiple pieces 🤔? If you could load possible five pieces with one still being in the center? You could load five or possibly more at a time and come back to a complete set of coasters vs just one.

@ryankiedrowski8499 3 жыл бұрын

Although possible getting the template lined up can be tricky on a machine like that. And with 12 minutes between it’s usually a quick click to swap and reset. As well as being able to swap to different designs

@gulfportflamefighter4545 3 жыл бұрын

@ Ryan Kiedrowski not tricky at all use the engraver to make center marks on your template can do as many as your table size of engraver

@Samcraftcom 3 жыл бұрын

I've been working on doing just that this past week and should be done soon! :)

@adamscoggins4553 2 жыл бұрын

Do I have to have carveco to run this file on my xxl pro?

@Samcraftcom 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, the .art files are specific to Carveco.

@adamscoggins4553 2 жыл бұрын

@@Samcraftcom thank you

@adamscoggins4553 2 жыл бұрын

Can it be any version of it?

@purpguy69 3 жыл бұрын

You do it right cause you do it twice!

@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy 3 жыл бұрын

Nice job Sam! Slap a strip of double sided tape on the back of that thing just because....

@RobertMorgan 2 жыл бұрын

[Watches video for my new, expensive laser engraver] "Now I want a CNC router".

@Samcraftcom 2 жыл бұрын

Slippery slopes everywhere!!! 😁

@williewheelspin9918 2 жыл бұрын

Why not make "L" shaped pieces of 3mm plywood on your laser and glue them accurately to a baseboard. round or square shaped objects would fit against the edges of the "L" shape and be easy to remove. Great video, thanks.

@W4TRI 3 жыл бұрын

Sent you an email about a project. Reply when you can. Thanks!

@destroyingangel9838 2 жыл бұрын

Repeatability and uniformity, jigs and fixtures or templates.

@donovanpl 2 жыл бұрын

@6:28 real life issue.

@pradeepchaudhary5996 Жыл бұрын

man why so overkill? just get a bed size of your laser and draw as many as many coaster locations you can on that bed and draw those individual coaster loactions in concentric circles so that you can fit bigger or smaller diameter coasters as well

@daviddvorak5310 2 жыл бұрын

I would not call that "batch" production. When I do coasters I have a jig that holds 16 coasters so I leave and come back 40 minutes later and they are done. That is over 400% faster than your method.