Of all the DS9 Kit bash ships we saw the Centaur looks like it was designed right from the start to be exactly what it looks like. The Excelcior version of the Miranda class.

The Centaur Class is honestly a very nice successor to the mildly overworked Miranda Class, always fun to see these videos

"It's another Enterprise!!"

I like this, but I still love the Miranda and Nebula class more. All 3 are the "Hatchback" of ships. That's why i love them.

I fell in love with the Centaur Class during the DS9 episode where it was chasing the "undercover" Jem'Hadar fighter...something was bad ass about its angle while firing torpedoes giving full chase.

I too adore that ship. I've always wanted to see a combat variant that uses the Lakota saucer with the extra engines and the big phasor cannons from the Miranda hanging off somewhere lol. Beautiful

As a kitbash, I think that the Centaur class design works well. Both kits are from the same in-universe era so it makes sense that the 'standardised' parts from two existing designs could well be combined to create a third class. The problem for the Centaur class in taking on the 'destroyer' role is that one of the pre-existing designs it was kitbashed from (the Miranda class) was already in service as an able destroyer. The only way the Centaur class makes sense is if either the design were to be built in a hurry using existing spare parts for the Dominion war or if, by using the Excelsior type saucer section, more powerful than a standard Miranda class vessel allowing it to take on a 'light cruiser' role.

We need the resurgence USS Resolute hull in STO. Edit it is now a free pickup as of Oct 12th 2023 it's available.

I fell in love with this class the moment i saw it attacking Sisko's Dominion ship. I was extremely happy when Star Trek Resurgance chose to use it as its ship to carry the story. I LOVE the reworked design, especially since the ship now has a deflector. I still play Star Trek Online from time to time and my last active ship was the Centaur class, I hope we get this "skin" in STO too. Thanks for the video, always love the detail and effort you put into these videos.

Just finished the Resurgence game. It was a lot of fun. I like the Centaur class, but I think I like this modified version more.

just finished resurgence, really really enjoyed it! I've been hyped for it for awhile and it pretty much was better than I expected in most areas

I was amazed to see that Star Trek Resurgence is built in UE5. The cutscenes look - and I think this isn't totally a bad thing - like something out of the old Activision Star Trek games I grew up with back in the day.

I was wondering if any of the channels I follow would touch on Resurgence. For me, I really enjoyed the game and it was a throwback to the old days of Star Trek games like Bridge Commander to me.

Frankly the original configuration of the Centaur is a potential deathtrap with the photon torps passing dangerously close to the bottom of the saucer section.

This has always been one of my favorite kitbashes. It seems more cohesive then many others.

An NCC-42xxx registry number would put the Centaur’s launch somewhere in the 2330-40s. This must be the SECOND USS Centaur, of the same class.

I've always had a soft spot for Miranda-style designs in every Stark Trek era.

I think it's funny that the Resolute crew talk up their ship at every opportunity. Yes, it's been refit, but it's still primarily a science vessel.

This one managed to evade my attention when looking at old kitbashes (damn Yeager distracting me), but after it became my workhorse ship on STO I properly fell in love with this ship. Especially with those arced nacelle pylons, it has this cohesive & distinctive silhouette despite all of the obviously kitbashed parts- and it's just magnificent.

The Resurgence Centaur is definitely different to the original Centaur. It actually gives me Ares vibes with the underside deflector

This class of ship has grown on me over the years. But I swear I thought you were calling it the "Sensor" class (with your accent it sounded like"Sen-sore" ) for the first few minutes of the video 😂. Thanks for another great video!

It looks great. The cohesive look is helped by the fact that its parent ships were designed (outside of story) for movies released in 1982 and 84 (the Miranda class saucer and nacelle designs are older but the Centaur does not use them). I imagine its saucer having the same size as that of the Excelsior.

The USS Cheyenne, a Centaur Class ship, was disabled by a Maquis attack. Captain Charlie Reynold was a friend of Captain Benjamin Sisko, who came looking for the Maquis traitor Eddington. Sisko destroyed a Maquis colony with the USS Defiant.

I like the refit look that the Resolute has.

I actually really love this design.

It looks like forward fired torpedoes would slam into the saucer section.

Good looking ship, STO for light cruisers the centaur and Miranda were two of my favorites.

The most elegant and beautiful Star Trek ship design.

I always liked this design. The only real flaw in the design, is the fact that the torpedo pod fires torpedoes into the bottom of the saucer. That pod needed to either be offset, or tilted.

Im surprised, you didn't mention its uses in the climax battle of prodigy season1

I think someone said it was not mass-produced due to not, at the time, performing better than the Miranda and Starfleet ultimately kept the large Miranda fleet and then try to replace it completely with a ship with very minor updates. Then, when Sisko used one to test the new Warp Core that later go the Defiant, and saw a vast improvement across the board, above the Miranda, they activated the ship and perform limited production as a stopgap as they slowly use it to replace the Mirandas, Constitutions, and Constellations being retired. Maybe even parietal replacement if it goes under a similar upgrade program like the Excellisor Type II or Obena class. I hope its true for its a compelling story and shows a lot of thought but in the story of an odd but loveable ship.

I've loved the Centaur Class ever since I read about it's unique origins in the Eaglemoss magazine!

I'm loving this game so far

The madlad who put the hanger bay directly in front of the bridge is someone I want to meet.

I really like the Centaur, it was logical to build a cheaper Excelsior variant to have a destroyer like ship for security runs.

To put the scale and size of Star Trek ships into perspective: The ship weights 870.000 tons. The biggest warships we have today, the US super carriers, weight around 100.000 tonnes each (of which the US currently operates 11). Most normal warships are between 3000 and 10.000 tons. The entire US Navy combined (around 300 ships total) has a displacement (= weight) of around 4.600.000 tons. So the entire US Navy is about equal in size to 6 Centaur class ships.

I think it can probably be thought of as the generation prior to the California class, and often filled the same role in the fleet.

I wish DS9's big battle scenes had more Centaur type ships in them, just to give it more "history".

i've seen pictures of the shooting miniature they used on DS9 and it also had the bridge module from the Miranda-class model kit. that plus how greebels were added to the Excelsior saucer to make it seem different makes me think that it was meant to be scaled based on the Miranda components, making it about as small as the Jem'Hadar fighter it had a dogfight with. But the prevailing fan-consensus is that the Centaur is to the Excelsior what the Miranda is to the Constitution and Nebula to the Galaxy, and initial intent really doesn't matter that. i like the tweaks they did to the design for the new game, making it smoothed out more off of the surprisingly great basic lines from the kitbashed model. I'm personally not a fan of the front-facing shuttlebay. I'd have used an Enterprise-B model saucer and converted the center impulse engine into a shuttlebay area (and the two big side impulse engines would have really worked with the nimble destroyer aspect).

I think the Centaur was more of a Large Destroyer (or from the Royal Navy, destroyer flotilla leader) than a Light Cruiser, and fulfilled the role of space cavalry much like the B'rel in the Dominion War. Otherwise, pretty much yes. A sleek vessel with the usual scaling issues. And such a vessel, using older parts, would be quickly replaced as a destroyer in the post-war Starfleet which was gearing to take on the borg - Steamrunner class anyone? That said, the refit Centaur we see in Resurgence is a smart repurposing of a capable ship, and even more pretty to the eyes.

The "Sensor" class. ;)

This is tied with the udated Miranda as my absolute favorite ship of Star Trek

I would guess the saucer was roughly the same as the saucer on the Excelsior and the Miranda pod was designed from the ground up as a new component, only taking rough inspiration from that which came before.

What a beautiful ship. The colours, the contour. The kitbash!

The Centaur Class is just like this video... great. Rock on.

Another great video! I lvoe them all , thanks for taking the time to explain all of the lore for us!

I am currently serving on the Resolute in a couple of capacities and I love it!

Per Star Fleet Command games: The Centaur class was originally meant for cheap (both to build and operate) but capable patrol ships for the Federation and was meant to lead small destroyer/frigate squadrons (similar to the original idea of the Miranda) We can postulate that production was curtailed with the Khitomer accords, since large numbers of cheap yet capable capable patrol ships were no longer needed.

I have the advanced Light cruiser T6 in STO and am watching DS9 again so making it into a Centaur was a good choice for me as you see it in the fight against the dominion. It's a nice looking ship and you can imagine it hiding among some asteroids or in a nebula, as it is small enough to disappear but packs enough fire power and mobility to obliterate a squad and warp to safety. It's also a good choice for evacuating a station under attack or escorting a larger ship.

Resolute is a well and truly good looking ship.

This game is pretty good

This ship has grown on me over the years. I will agree that as a kitbash, it's a really good looking one!

Thanks as always good stuff 👍

Thanks again Rick. Really enjoyed this.

It is one of my favorite designs

For a ship that was kit bashed on short notice I think it looked great. I would love to see a galaxy saucer variation of this. Sadly too many Kit Bash ships never seem to get their due on screen even though they look amazing.

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Great overview of the Centaur Class Starship keep up the great work.

This refit of the Centaur is fantastic. Such a good small ship. I can really buy it as a workhorse science shio.

The Centaur Class is more or less an improvised successor the Aries Class (Axanar). It is little wonder it was so good at sub light combat. So If Starfleet made a Non-improv Centaur-2 Class, they might have a real fighting ship on their hands.

I really enjoy this ship.

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This is my favorite kit bash ship it works! Look where the shuttle bay is, seemless and kinda makes sense. I love this ship I really want a eaglemoss/masterreplicas modele of it and if they make a XL version I'm on it. Thanks for the ever great work on this video. Oh the new Trek game features one of these beauties and I'm happy about that.

One of m fav ships to fly in STO

4:08 “The Centaur class saw a large resurgence…” I see what you did there.

You've got an interesting set of thoughts on this class. I thought the original story of the class was that during the Dominan war Starfleet was short of ships and just tool various parts to push out things quickly. So we got the Centaur class as a mash up of what was around.

Ironically, at least IMO and to my eye, the Resolute 'refit' version (or "flight," if you like), echoes back to the Ares Class from Axanar (dubiously non-canon, I know, but still...) and thus presents itself as just as tactical as opposed to overtly scientific compared to its cousin classes. It's a nice aesthetic touch that I feel fits nicely into the overall evolutionary design language.

The Resurgence game is great fun

holy crap, I didn't realized the Miranda was that big

Originally the Centaur model (labeled "USS Buckner") was designed to be smaller than the Miranda-class with a large Miranda-style bridge dome. Later depictions used the Excelsior bridge and gave the ship a much larger scale to be in line with it. Personally, I think the ship being larger is a better fit, but it still makes sense as a small battleship like the Defiant and Saber classes.

The Centaur? That's Charlie Reynolds' ship.

its a solid design nothing wrong with it😊

I'd love to see a look at some of the other kitbashed ships. Particularly the New Orleans class, which is a favourite of mine.

I thought USS Resolute was first of Centaur - Refit Class. It was implied in last volume of comicbook.

Probably my favorite kitbash.

I imagined it as a torpedo boat, with a horizontal warp core to make space for ammo.

Looks like the Ares class from that Axanar fan film

Funny how I started playing Resurgence only a few hours ago. But I can not really call it a game. It's more like a very linear interactive movie. So far I haven't found anything where my actions actually influenced what happens.

I don't know where you got your background for the Centaur but you can tell just by looking at it that this is a vessel designed to carry things - freight, troops, something. Think "Kobayashi Maru"-style freighter with extensive defensive capabilities. The neck bolts are there to attach freight pods. This is why its impulse engines have to be big...and the nacelles have to be so far apart.

They really remind me of Naval patrol ships, small but has teeth, and likely faster than you lol

Cheers

The ship class was NOT "orientated;" it was oriented toward more patrol missions.

Now imagine a Centaur built by mixing the Excelsion 2 Saucer and the Reliant pod...

Will you be doing a playthrough of Resurgence for the channel? I'd be keen to see it!

I think that the Resolute is a variant, because it looks more like Axanar's Ares-class, than the original.

Now do the Clarke Multi-Mission Light/Command Cruiser - Star Trek Online's 25th Century Centaur Class Successor - and the Malachowski Multi-Mission Light/Command Cruise - Discovery era Centaur Class Predecessor!!!!

so, for some reason KZfaq thinks subtitles need to be displayed in one full burst in the first few seconds, the entire text displayed at once. Nice job breaking it, KZfaq.

Makes far more sense that it's a smaller Excelcior than a smaller ship than the Miranda.

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i can think of several 'improvements' that would IMO make it better...

Interesting for it to have a forward facing shuttle bay on the saucer. You'd expect a rearward one by engineering.

Is there any in-universe information on how starships were constructed, especially after the advent of industrial replicators?

So, it's actually a "hot rod". Nice.

I kept thinking you were saying Sensor Class

Is it me or the Resolute has a whiff of Ares from Axanar

Where is the main deflector on the non-refit version?

my only beef about the miranda class is that weird looking over head bar that houses the phaser beam cannons and the torpedo launchers what i would have done is put the front facing weapons into the front side of saucer hull its self and the aft facing weapons on the back side of the saucer hull rest of miranda class shape looks hansom already that bar i think makes it look ugly

Gotta love kitbashing, special effects guys are just model builders with a paycheck to do it really well, so let them build models!

I have noticed that modern design has all warp cores in a vertical position within the hull. Is there a reason why warp cores can not be installed horizontally?