what did you think of the Knuckles Show 🤔

Mark: I don't like it Everyone: WE LOVE IT Mark: I liked it Everyone: WE HATE IT

"You Guys are Just Mean" Rich coming from the person who didn't like FRED 2: Night of the Living FRED

I got more feelings for Knuckles's relationship with Wade's Mom than Wade himself, thats probably my biggest gripe with the series.

“KNUCKLES SHOW MIGHT BE THE WORST PIECE OF SONIC MEDIA EVER” ken penders: *exists*

Sonic fans: mad that the title character is more of a side character Godzilla fans: first time

This LS Mark guy is too damn positive all the time smh

I personally thought it was good but the problems it has are 1. after the first three episodes it focuses primarily on wade while knuckles gets barely any screen time but to be fair the wade parts were still enjoyable 2. The main villain gets less screen time than random side characters and we never find out what his name is 3. The final fight was way to short and we spent more time on the bowling than the final battle 4. We never got to see pretzel lady react/find out that knuckles wasn’t in his room 5. While I like the music choices I think not having the knuckles rap get a reference was a disappointment 6. Not really a problem just more of a question why does knuckles have the flames of disaster and we’re also supposed to accept that wade a normal human broke himself free from a cage with his strength but then doesn’t use that strength ever again 7. Wades sister is definitely too annoying and the idea that an fbi agent doesn’t have the capability to defend herself from a guy with a chain as his weapon is a little ridiculous plus why was there literally no police or anything like that throughout the show primarily during the final battle like your in a city the idea that no cops showed up seems a little questionable

I understand people exressing their disappointment of the show. But to say that its the worst piece of Sonic media is ridiculous. The show's jokes land A LOT better than the 1s we've gotten in both of the Sonic movies. Its void of childish fart jokes and childish flossing from Sonic. And this is coming from a person who loves those films. But the fandom is acting like the movies are somehow masterclass writing and cinema. This show does the same thing that the first movie did. Where instead of getting Sonic and Tom going on a road trip we get Knuckles and Wade. The CGI character is playing off of the human components. As they should since Team Sonic lives in a world filled with humans. I'm glad those reviews made me think I was barely see Knuckles. Because I went in expecting such only to be surprised how much he was on screen. I also love how selfaware of how silly it is.

“New video in an hour” comes out half an hour later. What timeline do we live in

This feels one of the few times mark takes the opposite side while others take the offensive

10:40 Mark: There isn't a good Sonic series. Me: Cries in Boom and SATAM.

Whether you enjoyed or dislike the Knuckles series, we can universally agree on one thing: It’s 10 times better than Velma season 2

Is... is Wade just a human Big the Cat?!? Means well, very dumb, is widely hated, ends up endearing.

Plot twist: all the hate mongering is actually Ken Penders trying to take down the knuckles show because there’s more than two echidnas on screen

My only gripe is how they just smacked "Knuckles" over "The Wade show" title. They could have showed more about Knuckles background, and balenced the two arc's out, but yeah it was alright.

Knuckles feels like the supporting character and Wade feels like the protagonist. I feel like somebody wanted to make a bowling movie but was forced to settle for this. There's so much they could have worked with for Knuckles, like him coming to terms with his tribe being wiped out or just SOMETHING that was about Knuckles.

GOOD SHOW ! "Stamp on paper" *APPROVED !*

the only thing i hated about the show was the fbi chick acting tbh

Putting it bluntly, mark, you said it yourself. You forgot Knuckles was even in the show *multiple times*, that it focused on human stuff and it just treats Knuckles as a side character It can be extremely endearing. The writing could be top notch and perfect and heartwarming. I'm glad you liked it! But when people want to watch a show LITERALLY called Knuckles, and want to see more Knuckles, and all marketing is Knuckles- none of that actually matters. It failed as a Sonic property. Jokes aside about his track record that should be far, far enough to tell you why it's hated. It's a SONIC property. People want Sonic things in it. People want KNUCKLES in it. The first two movies are loudly hated for the human shit, not just the wedding scene so it's just a no brainer. It's cool that you liked it, seein you be positive in a walkaway is nice! But acting like people are weird for wanting more Knuckles in the Sonic the Hedgehog spinoff Knuckles is weird

“If you’re looking for a good Sonic show… there isn’t one.” Sonic X: 😢

According to the internet these days, shows and movies are either the best thing or worst thing ever

I like the show but understand why some really didn't. What baffles me more is the fact people seem to think the supplemental budget miniseries is somehow indicative of the quality that Sonic 3 is going to have as opposed to...the other two movies by the same creative team.

the low budget opera scene was the funniest scene to me from how it was purposely made to look low budget, and then the scene about the puppet appearing as Wade's father.

Knuckles CGI looks freaking fantastic for a TV. Holy shit

This had a tv show budget with Sonic Movie Levels of cgi and Idris Elba which is why they mainly decided to use Wade to save money which is why we don’t see Knuckles that much at all, so they should’ve of made it animated like the Sonic Movie 2 short realesed after the movie

Better Call Saul didn’t have Knuckles in a single episode. 0/10

Also the people that judge the quality based on how much money it makes as suppose to how good the product is. People need to stop doing that.

I don't hate Wade, I'm fine with him in the movies, but I don't really care about him as a main focus.

4:45 I don't understand how Wade possibly became a cop or how his stupid sister became an FBI agent.

I know people don't like the inclusion of the human characters in the sonic cinematic universe but if they are gonna include them , at least they are given things to do as they develop over the series. Sonic convinced Tom to see the value in green hills to stay there and be it's number 1 cop. And this knuckles show honestly made me appreciate wade as a character. I liked the scenes with him and knuckles bonding.

It was really fun. While Knuckles' presence diminished throughout each episode- How would they even write that? It's good to see Knuckles develop and adapt yes, but his story is basically finished. He's already had most of his development and throughout the show he gains an understanding of how life on Earth works. In fact, Knuckles adapting to Earth life can really just be done in an episode or two, but instead they tried their absolute best to let it show Knuckles adapting while teaching Wade. This entire show could've been just 1 movie. While I admit the Wade stuff is unnecessary, they made it fun and actually have a nice flow for his story. Knuckles throughout the show is both a mentor and student, teaching Wade how to be a true warrior and follow his heart, while Wade teaches Knuckles that there are multiple "battlefields" and the joys of life. While yes the role could've been given to Sonic, it was still Sonic that cemented the idea into Knuckles for him to actually chill out. Overall I enjoyed the show. 8/10

honestly? the show isn't bad it's alright. the reason people are so mad at it is cause honestly, you can't please a sonic fan I hate saying it but it's true. It's this endless cycle of the company doing something right, fans loving it and then they try something slightly different and BOOM worst thing ever shit from a butt it's insane really.

I've only seen the first two episodes, but so far, my favorite parts of the show have been the Wade related-stuff. Stuff like him fantasizing about his bizarre battle strategy, him being pushed to do better in bowling by a psychotic hitman, and his consistently pathetic nature have made him pretty funny to watch in my opinion. I agree that it sucks that in the later episodes, apparently Knuckles gets side-lined more and more, but I don't find Wade too grating in these first few episodes where I particularly would mind watching more about him. Though, I do know they introduce his family as side characters in episode 3, so having all of Wade's family may get a bit tiresome for me.

76 minutes of screen time out of 172 minutes is not even a low amount for a fully cg character, like how are people mad at this?

Sonic fans are like Transformers fans. They hate their favorite franchises and fail to understand that CGI is fucking expensive, and without humans is fucking pointless to do in live action.

Never thought I'd see the day mark LIKED something the world hates

I think what we gotta understand is that while the movies are taking a lot from the games, they don’t want to root their identity in just adapting the games and want to make it feel more separated from other sonic canon’s. Because of that, I really can’t hate this show.

6:58 This is basically my stance as well. I had so much fun with this series. Would I have preferred a show that focused much more on the Sonic characters? Absolutely. But that doesn't make what we got "bad".

I can see why so many "serious" Sonic fans would hate this show. But I personally can't bring myself to hate a piece of Sonic media that's so balls-to-the-wall insane that it featured Iblis from Sonic 06 singing about hitting up Facebook marketplace...

It wasn't "peak, mid 2000's, ambitious, "free as the wind", long quills, Shonen, underrated, cool factor" Ugh modern Sonic ruining the franchise

That's a Cosmonaut title

I didn’t hate the show, but I do feel like the show writers fundamentally misunderstand why people are interested in the live action Sonic franchise. The fact that none of the villains Knuckles faces off with in this series have names at all says everything you need to know about the thought and care put into this. At least the first movie had Robotnik as a villain for Sonic to contend with. Knuckles is given literally nothing to do for most of this series. It makes me wonder if all of the good ideas for a show actually about Knuckles got shot down because Paramount wants to save all of the interesting characters that Knuckles could interact with (ie, Rouge, Chaos, Team Chaotix, etc.) for future movies, so the writers just said, “screw it, we’ll make a show about Wade then”.

trust me, dude. You are NOT the only one who enjoyed it. I just got finished watching it myself and I was HYPED! All the way through. Sure, towards the end, the focused more on Wade than Knuckles. But I love the overall message it brings, "A Warrior's strength lies in his heart" and shows how far both Wade AND Knuckles have come. Do I wish Knuckles had a bit more screen time? Of course I do. But we have to remember that they only had so much time to make this. And personally, I think they did fantastic with what they were given. It gets me all the more pumped for Sonic the Hedgehog 3!

Well Atleast it’s reassuring that the third sonic movie has a completely different production team and writers. So it gives me hope they don’t go this shows route

I thought it was fun. But what's even better is Ken Penders having a meltdown in response to this show

My biggest gripe is that knuckles felt like a side character in his own show.

Did Paramount pay you or something? You lost credibility when you said the Knuckles show was better than both Sonic movies…

I've never seen a fan base with so much toxic positivity and toxic negativity at the same time I feel the need to mention criticism doesn't always equal toxic negativity and the same with positivity but this fanbase takes it too far most of the time

I would say the show is like (and literally) an innocent and Wholesome version of the Ted show... ...& Knuckles.⭐

Remember who’s hating it in the first place: sonic fans themselves. They don’t enjoy anything.

Forgive me for not being particularly inclined towards sitting through 6 episodes of the most unfunny side character in the Sonic movies, Luhsmark.

I like how the title reads like a comment under a hate post. It is pretty interesting to see Mark being the positive one asking “Why are you guys hating it so much?”

0:00 is how i feel about Teen Titans go

…do we not like Sonic X here? I love Sonic X, that’s a good Sonic series 😢

Written better than Sonic Frontiers is wild

Like I understand being disappointed that this wasn’t best thing that could be made for knuckles, but I wouldn’t even consider this being anywhere near some of the worst sonic projects out there, at best i just thought it was alright.😊

1:23 That’s the thing, though - the series barely even delivers on that expectation. Instead of being a Knuckles and Wade buddy comedy, it’s mostly just The Wade Show with Knuckles sitting in the background for 75% of the time. After the first two episodes they don’t actually interact that much, which is a shame because they do have strong chemistry. The show isn’t TERRIBLE, but just feels like a complete waste of time.

I will say this. I appriciate that while there is some lore dropped in this series, they didn't take the MCU route and make it 'homework', more or less removing any sort of freedom a show can it's own thing while at the same time making any sort of movie connecting lore impossible to get, boring to understand or just making it flat out lame. The Knuckles series seems familiar with what it is and takes a goofier character and puts him with a character who is COMEDICALLY serious and I think that's something a lot of people forget. I *DID* like Sonic 2 but where Knuckles' seriousness came in, it was still purposely EXAGGERATED to show out of place he was not just on Earth but just communicating with Eggman, Sonic and Tails. The latter two didn't get him and they're from the SAME PLANET. That's how weird Knuckles acts but I still liked it given that at the end of the day, he is trying to do something that he thinks is right. He also didn't grow up on Earth like Sonic did so he's even LESS accustomed to how things work, because even if Sonic was living on his own he quickly learned how Earth works, how to refurbish things for his own use, and so on so yeah, Knuckles is finally getting his chance to find out that he doesn't have to be serious all the time. ....c'mon, show don't do this to me. The Sonic movies are goofy exciting fun that I like but it's making me realize that Sonic and Knuckles didn't really get to have ACTUAL FUN with other people for such a long time and these corny humans are giving them that chance. Also, the irony of Eggman being a human that wanted to kill Sonic and manipulated Knuckles yet characters like Tom and the others are interacting with the characters more than the whole Overlander drama stuff from the Archie comics. And speaking of Archie, I wouldn't at all be surprised if 'The Buyer' was in some way inspired by 'The Hunter' from the comics. Hunter even works with Eggman later on to try to capture Knuckles after his failure to hunt him the first time so yes, I don't see it being weird at all that Eggman would use some other sly way to try to capture these weird animals. I mean....you're....too.....positive. And fun. How dare you not only show how much you like this show but respectfully understand why others wouldn't and don't try to insult them for it. How dare you, sir!

Sorry, but no, this is not on the same level as the movies, since: 1) Different writers 2) Not the same budget 3) Jeff Fowler wasn't involved after Episode 1. Also, sorry, but this show, unfortunately, did not provide its original purpose as a supposed "prequel" or something before watching the 3rd movie type of scenario. You liked it? That's cool! I'm glad you did! But, being honest here, story wise, and mostly something that was supposed to be connected to the movies, it didn't provide that lore we needed to know about the upcoming movie. Heck, in terms of where this is placed in the movie-verse timeline, is utterly confusing. Like, how did Wade, of all the other characters, was the human choice for Knuckles? If much and if this was supposed to be placed AFTER the 2nd movie, it would've made so much sense if they introduced it to us how Knuckles and Wade met in the first place AFTER the 2nd movie, because let's be real, *THEY DID NEVER MET* on the 2nd movie. The only character that actually spoke to Wade was Tails during the Longclaw's memory scene. Also, apart of the cringeworthy lines and comebacks from some characters, some of them were introduced so poorly, after what Episode 5 did to my sanity in terms of lore, I sincerely lost hope in this one. Plus, there were so many inappropriate jokes to a supposed show directed to kids. Yes, THAT scene with the metal detector was insane and it was so unnecessary. I do have my own positive thoughts about it, tho. Not everything has to be negative. We all know episode 1 is literally the best one, and Wade's mom is the best human character in this one. I love how she was handled since some females can relate to the whole "single mother takes care of her two kida after stupid dad abandoned them" and I personally loved how she took me by surprise with her fighting skills. Kid Cudi is a close second for some jokes he did, but everyone else was so poorly handled and yes, we all collectively hate Wanda and Pistol Pete, that's for sure. Again, this is just my humble opinion and positive contribution to this. There's always room for improvement. After all, that's what saved the movie Sonic verse in the first place, right? Have a good day! ❤

The main reason I tolerate this shows actual premise as opposed to what it could have been is because it’s supplemental material, while the sonic movies were stated to be similar to the MCU I appreciate they didn’t do that annoying thing the MCU has done recently in having a crap ton of shows the later movies just expect you to watch to understand what’s going on, while I do think the first two movies are leagues funnier, I wouldn’t call this an insult to this new take on the sonic universe, could have been better but nothing I lost my sanity over

Clicked faster than Knuckles' fist.

As Tails once said in Recryo: " SONIC FANS HATE EVERYTHING"

People are forgetting what the first two Sonic movies gave us because the premise of the third movie is gaslighting people into thinking this is going to be an action packed epic cinematic universe. In a way this might be something the producers need to look deeper into, I don't know what they have planned for the third movie but they might end up with a lot of controversy at this rate if they don't change up the formula. That or they need to be very specific in their advertising that this stuff is going to be like this so the people all the way in the back understand.

Sonic fans are unhappy? What a surprise that grown adults take any form of Sonic media way too serious.

I'm not against this series, but in the grand scheme of the Sonic cinematic universe, what was the point of this series? We didn't get enough focus on Knuckles learning to settle down on Earth. Wade doesn't learn much combat and his motive for training is meaningless because he was always good at bowling. The villains either die or vanish at the end. This series should have been about Knuckles training Wade in combat to become a better cop and Wade teaching Knuckles how to bowl. We can keep the moments with Wade's family (take Wanda down a few notches) and everything in The Flames of Disaster. I don't know how I feel about the Battleground in the Sky being literal Heaven instead of a euphemism for it.

3:12 WHAT!?

Sonic, Mario, FNaF. None of these movies take themselves too seriously, and I love them all. They aren't perfect, but seeing my favorite gaming franchises turned into movies is a mind-blowing experience for me. So glad to see how successful these are. Can't wait for Sonic 3, FNaF 2, and whatever Illumination is working on for Mario!

I think Sonic the Hedgehog 3 will be the film that really does focus on just the beloved video game characters... but we'll see

6 Year Anniversary of Avengers Infinity War and Maya The Bee 2.

The day sonic fans actually like a show or game for what it is instead of crap all over it because it’s not what they wanted is the day I’m going to be happy for the new year Sadly, it has yet to happen

I think that Knuckles and Sonic Boom are my favorite shows because of how creative and funny they can be

People had the same issue with the transformer movies because they also featured human characters. I thought it was already common knowledge that live action movies and shows with CGI characters are usually going to have human characters featured as proactively as their CGI counterparts.

It’s Knuckles and Knuckles is bae

Wild that in terms of live action Sonic we're going to have Sonic 1, 2, 3 and Knuckles

I have no idea where this running joke about knuckles liking grapes came from. Am I missing something?

This Knuckles is truly a guy you would love to have as a friend.⭐ (Our echidna ted.😎)

I haven't seen much hate for this at all. I usually just see "it's fine, but it's mostly for kids so older people don't get too much enjoyment and it's a little too safe"

Yeah I was too busy watching the Fallout show

You didn't notice Cary Elwes was the dad? I love how people just "don't notice" who an actor is, like you spent 6 hours looking at his face without a single thought passing through your empty, empty skull beyond "Nerkles LMAO"

I haven't watched anything from the Sonic Movieverse but it's funny to me seeing the same "Sonic sitting in a car with some guy" shot but now it's "Knuckles sitting in a car with some guy". It's probably not "bad" but damn it looks sauceless as hell. I'm sure there will be discourse surrounding the "Shadow sitting in a car with some guy" show when that comes out too lol.

I’m in the “People HATE this show” section. What about everyone else?

I watched it. It’s good on its own merits but, it shouldn’t have been called the Knuckles series. It’s not on the same level as the Movies. It’s better than the movies in terms of the writing and the humor. I love the musical number.

Wade is a better Chris Thorndyke in every single way

Now I wouldn't call myself mean, I don't think it's a bad show, but I personally felt underwhelmed by it. Like there were some funny moments, but they lean way too much into the comedy. And while I enjoyed Knuckles and Wade bond together, I was left thinking I watched the "Wade Show" instead of the Knuckles Show that was advertised.

10:42 Sonic X? Sonic SAT AM? Anyone?

No one hates Sonic content more than Sonic fans

Mark: I like Wade Subtitles: I like Weed

I just feel like this style of movie for video game characters is so outdated. Like after the mario movie surely they’ve realized that people don’t want this sorta thing

Oh how the turns have tabled

I thought this was a joke when I saw the title Everyone Hates something and Mark doesn’t agree. I’d be impressed with the Irony if I wasn’t laughing so hard

Man I really enjoyed it too! I love Wade’s arc, even if it feels a little rushed towards the end. I also love how they let Wade properly win the tournament instead of having that robot guy interrupt it when it was about to end.

I think people get too into comparing the movie universe to the games. At this poin, they're borderline different franchises.

11:55 Knuckles has amazing taste in food.

I like the idea that the humans are just as silly and wack in personality as the Sonic characters are in concept and appearance.

LS Mark’s contrarian arc continues

I love Wade's s-I mean Knuckles show because the Wade's- I mean Knuckles show talks about serious themes. Wade- I mean Knuckles is such a fun and engaging main character and followed up by his best friend Knuckl- I mean Wade. They just make such a good duo

9:59 When I was watching I was a little bit mad that they killed off the villain because I was like "it's a kids show how are they going to murder somebody?" But then I remembered it looked like they murdered robotnik at the end of Sonic 2 but somehow he's still alive and also The Buyer was only in like 2 or 3 episodes so we don't care about him enough to be sad about his death.

OMG is there any show you hate. It seems like you love every show that comes out. Learn to hate something for once in your life. This is always so positive! Yeah this feels weird

8:16 I have to agree with this point 100%. I watched the entirety of this series with my 8 year old sister and she thoroughly enjoyed watching the fun situations with wade and knuckles.