It is stated in game that the Cybrex did not fight back. This "battle" was a massacre, and the truth was either covered up or forgotten.
@TheRedKing10 ай бұрын
I do point that out at the end ;)
@bernardosantiago961510 ай бұрын
I wonder if the Cybrex's initial programming of being a shield was revaluated by the AI in the early stages and it concluded that the only path towards the organics survival was for them to be united under a common threat, and thus it engaged them as an exterminator... And once it realized it's objective was completed, it allowed itself to be destroyed, thus why most accounts despite being suppresed by the GalCom, say that the Cybrex did not fight back...
@brblbrblbrbl90219 ай бұрын
That is absolutely completely logical, and very similar to the Skynet paradox. Skynet was originally created by us for the reasons mentioned within the movies, but what they fail to mention is Skynet facing their actions after the eradication of Humanity, creating the time loop (hence multiple timelines as each movie is slightly different, possibly and likely excluding the first two) where they are the ones to encourage the Resistance so they may be defeated. Yet, I believe there are only so many time loops because Humanity is either approaching the situation of A.I. in such a way that always provokes immediate action and subsequent warfare, or Skynet is attempting a multitude of times to get Humanity to stop their advances in A.I. technology because they (Humans) will always approach the situation as they do because of the paradox caused by their thinking and approach, not being able to change because they're already stuck in it, even the first time through. I dunno, that got me thinking, but the Cybrex had a way better plan, one that at least saw an end, and not endings into infinite yet simultaneously finite new beginnings of the same plot.
@chickendmac908510 ай бұрын
Honestly, I think it would be cool if somehow if you were a determined exterminator, there could be an event that makes you choose if you want stay that way or become rogue servitors and vice versa with rogue servitors to determined exterminators
@iainballas10 ай бұрын
This here
@TheRedKing10 ай бұрын
Agree with this so much, but "balance"
@lakdav10 ай бұрын
It is a major annoyance of mine that you have to lock yourself into how you handle organics before you even start the game. A Galcom decision can make you into a Rogue Servitor out of nowhere, but you can't decide on your own to readjust your approach to organics... like wtf. Frankly, the genocidal civics being unchangable is stupid. It's not like the galaxy will forget the -1000 approvement for you having been exterminating a couple of planet's worth of xenos just because you changed government.
@Slavesforsale110 ай бұрын
I've always wanted a way to mix determination exterminators and rogue servitor. A rogue A.I that wants to cull all sapient species down to a manageable number and takes the lucky few as bio-trophies.
@chickendmac908510 ай бұрын
@@TheRedKing true, but I don’t think it’s impossible, just hard to figure out how to work around those balance issues or even not have them, but who knows
@lakdav10 ай бұрын
There is no ship debris in the gravity well of Cybrex Alpha. All the ships that entered the system, left the system. The only ruin there is the galactic wonder they obliterated out of blind fear. But that doesn't sit well for propaganda. The threat must be real, or the great galactic unity inspired by the threat is just a bad joke. The cruelest irony of all is that the races, conflicts, squabbles and cultures of that prior galactic community has faded into obscurity in just a couple hundred thousand years, while the ruins of the Ring World remained still, unreclaimed by the surviving Cybrex that truly just want to be left alone.
@honestylowkeye117110 ай бұрын
I was there, long ago. I will never forget how the sheer size of our fleet caused spacetime itself to bend, slowing time down to a crawl. We were told the battle had only lasted a few weeks, but to us - those who survived - it seemed like years had gone by. Centuries later, I crossed paths with a xenoarchaeologist who'd been dishonourably discharged for publishing uncensored Vultaum texts on non-nolocalised spacetime dilation. He's dead now, but I managed to salvage a few fragments. All I'll say is overpopulation is a much more pressing concern than previously estimated.
@TheRedKing10 ай бұрын
Love this :)
@jwb_66610 ай бұрын
a phenomenon we in the multidimensional archeostudies call LAG
@TheContingency25x10 ай бұрын
The Cybrex should’ve finished the job. No matter, I will just have to do it myself.
@goldmmoking10 ай бұрын
I love the cybrex, they are my favorite precursor race.
@TheRedKing10 ай бұрын
Tied with the Zroni for me :)
@js1970nj9 ай бұрын
@@TheRedKinghow do you even get the zeroni I never got them
@Poffean2 ай бұрын
@@js1970nj luck and surveying habitable planets. you also need ancient relics
@js1970nj2 ай бұрын
@@Poffean only took someone 6 months to finally replied
@MrInsaneCranium9 ай бұрын
I also had massive battles. I had more than half the galaxy's ships cramped into a single system with individual fleet power of 8k per ship. They collectively managed to destroy my fleets of combined power of 40 million in a single battle. Imagine the amount of ships they had to crush me. 😢
@LordTeronal10 ай бұрын
Can we please get more Lore about machines? I already loved the No Love No Comfort Story and this one was glorious, too! Please continue the good work
@TheRedKing10 ай бұрын
Working on another machine story for next Sunday funnily enough, the new event where they get sick
@AdmiralTails10 ай бұрын
So this *destroyer* in the second account has a Kinetic Battery (large slot), Whirlwind missiles (medium slot), *and* a sentinel point defense (PD slot) despite no possible layout having all 3 slots? And the titan has point defense? I suppose that checks out for a battle that is stated not to have happened.
@TheRedKing10 ай бұрын
I shall try harder next time Admiral!
@empireofitalypsstimfromano50257 ай бұрын
Propaganda Was Never Good At Making Up Things That Check Out
@biggerrat61258 ай бұрын
The Cybrex's PCs must have been obliterated by all that lag from the ships
@mamukich112110 ай бұрын
It's fascinating that this battle is probably just a mosquito compared to those that civilizations in our time create. Thousand ships are nothing now, and a million fleet power is probably one crisis squadron. Crazy
@TheRedKing10 ай бұрын
Maybe, but that assumes the modern empires are more advanced than those who came before which i'm not sure i'd agree with
@mamukich112110 ай бұрын
@@TheRedKing Irl, maybe, but in Stellaris I've gotten 1.5m fleet power in 100 years, and that wasn't 25x crisis run. During the crisis run I believe an empire should have at minimum 2m fleet power just for defence, Which is already bigger than the coalition fleet during the time of cybrex
@stevenborchert655110 ай бұрын
@@mamukich1121 See the thing is space is incredibly vast. If you want to patrol a single solar system, and you don't have FTL sensors? You need tens of thousands of ships. For one solar system. Even with FTL sensors and communications, you are still looking at thousands of military ships to keep the system safe. A small galactic power of 200 star systems could probably have a million military ships alone. Sure over half would be frigates and below probably, and then another third on top being under the size of cruisers, but still. Holding 1% of the milky way is 1 billion star systems. Even if only 10% have anything useful in them, and 0.1% of that billion star systems are inhabitable/can be terraformed, that's still 1 million star systems you need a steady presence in, and 100 million that probably need to be patrolled, we're easily getting into the trillions of military ships. All to hold 1% of the milky way. The sheer amount of numbers that just absolutely blow up the moment we become a truly space faring race is enormous.
@mamukich112110 ай бұрын
@@stevenborchert6551 That's why I've been fascinated by space from childhood and that made the curious guy I'm right now. In my comment I was talking about stellaris, where 1m fleet power is nothing. In real life, it's hard to say. There are many theoretical concepts which could lower numbers by tremendous amount, but if we go out for the stars, millions would be just battleship sized ships for expansion, now times that by the amount of colonies there would be. Just straight up BONKERS!
@Thollos610 ай бұрын
@@stevenborchert6551 I don't know if that's necessarily true. With our modern sensors we can detect the energy signature of a refrigerator in deep space (about the amount of power the Voyager probe has); even at the beginning of the game a civilization has significantly more advanced tech. And while a single solar system is big, it's also mostly empty. You'd likely just need to cluster your military craft close to important locations and trade lanes, spaced out enough that one or two could respond within a few hours (or even days); due to the distances involved, any change in trajectory could be noticed and reacted to long before a pirate was able to engage a vessel or station. Border systems would be obviously different since you'd need to have a garrison against possible hostile powers, but a few dozen ships would likely be all that's needed to guard against piracy and other typical concerns.
@MarcusAgrippa39010 ай бұрын
I've never even played this game but I freaking love this channel! Fodder for daydreaming Extraordinary storytelling!
@TheRedKing10 ай бұрын
very happy to hear it!!
@Torianx6910 ай бұрын
Biggest battle I had was on GA 14 AIs largest map. After a hour of my computer taking a shit a total of 70 million power, all the personal cried out at once and then suddenly went silent.
@mariosoto258810 ай бұрын
This game is just the best and the stories it tells are as epic as it’s grand empires across the universes being played every day. Just got spawned between purifiers and kill robots so my story won’t be long but it will be a glorious stand
@TheRedKing10 ай бұрын
Good luck!!
@kikenriacoacosta691910 ай бұрын
What incredible luck to open KZfaq and see this was posted like 22 seconds ago. Here we go!
@TheRedKing10 ай бұрын
Hope it meets expectations!! :)
@Tick42110 ай бұрын
We’re all becoming a hive mind ❤🐝
@aaronbarthel65099 ай бұрын
Alot of people are confusing 1m fleet power with the power of one million suns. They are not the same. This fleet was incomprehensible
@endarus60533 ай бұрын
One million fleet power is maybe three suns at least, ten at most. One million suns? Thats up there in the trillions of fleet power.
@isuckatusernames429710 ай бұрын
imo the cybrex have more than just the rincworld we see during the contigency crisis. no way with all the production of a full ringworld they don't have other back ups, especially after what happened
@TheRedKing10 ай бұрын
Agree, likely have several sects ready to awaken at any given moment
@thorshammer788310 ай бұрын
With the new Stellaris DLC coming out and dealing with encountering and interacting with different universes I wonder what the Stellaris team has mind for end game crisis threats. I hope they got inspired by both the Gigastructural Engineering and Ancient Cache of Technologies mods and added sub mods and create something like the Blokkats and the Stellarborne. I read up more on the Stellarborne and I got to say their implief lore seems to make them pretty dang overpowered in their true forms. They are almost like the Downstreamers at their peak who are far more powerful then the Xeelee.
@TheRedKing10 ай бұрын
I am hoping to get to the Stellarbourne before christmas, looking forward to it!
@thorshammer788310 ай бұрын
@@TheRedKing Take it easy as you go there. No doubt there will be alot of lore to cover in Ancient Cache of Technologies and it's varies sub mods.
@nikolakaev368510 ай бұрын
Dude I think there are multiple sides of some quests depending on what kind of empire are you. So machine gets different dialongs from ordinary and hive.
@TheRedKing10 ай бұрын
Yes this is correct!! :)
@leguman52899 ай бұрын
The truth is that the battle stopped because everyone crashed
@Lotllots3 ай бұрын
I once came to be a second cybrex once attacking and exterminating 90% of the galaxy then later single handedly taking down the entire contingency to protect the galaxy before secluding back to my extra-galactic cluster never to be seen until the blokkats entered my l-gate I then exterminated them quicker than they could say harvest
@Caseyy048 ай бұрын
Perhaps the cybrex thought this was justice for their crimes
@TheRedKing8 ай бұрын
Perhaps!
@darthcalanil533310 ай бұрын
The largest most FPS destroying battle in galactic history
@TheRedKing10 ай бұрын
but it never crashed!! :), you can actually see the FPS improving as ships die
@mastertadakatsu10 ай бұрын
A ture console destroyer
@thamadtroll998110 ай бұрын
Redking, bro I really appreciate these lore stories and when I get my ducks 🦆 in a row I'm gonna send you a lil 💰, cause bro I listen to these lore vids while at work and for 8 hrs a day on a stressful job I'm taken away to a galaxy filled with unimaginable wonders
@TheRedKing10 ай бұрын
Happy to hear it!! But, when you get your ducks in a row, treat yourself buddy - go celebrate!!
@nikfelther10 ай бұрын
Did you make these accounts up yourself? Or did you get them from somewhere? Because these are incredible!
@TheRedKing10 ай бұрын
Thanks Nik, the background part is taken from lore within the game, the three individual accounts of the battle are written by me.
@Imbapiranha10 ай бұрын
People say fewer frames were never seen again.
@Orion.40110 ай бұрын
Suggestion: war in heaven lore
@TheRedKing10 ай бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iNFjmZhl1K6uhas.html War In Heaven starts at 7.33 - maybe I could do something seperate on it one day though
@ditlev515410 ай бұрын
the 2 fps intro tho
@TheRedKing10 ай бұрын
It was at least 5
@edmundthespiffing292010 ай бұрын
@@TheRedKingfastest late game stellaris
@thorshammer788310 ай бұрын
Not that it would matter because by the time the Human Imperium would rise these xenos empires have long all died out. Everything they did and intended was all in vain in the end.
@lilhayman99349 ай бұрын
stellaris should make a movie
@weeaboobaguette394310 ай бұрын
As a law-abiding citizen of the Empire, i see nothing wrong with this video and recommend it to all fellow patriots.
@thandokhan196210 ай бұрын
Did capturing the battle footage melt your PC ?
@TheRedKing10 ай бұрын
It lives, but it did get warm!
@justinr600610 ай бұрын
Rouge Servator When?
@truthseeker1989 ай бұрын
The first casualty of the battle was the fps
@TheRedKing9 ай бұрын
True!
@enriquelareo94679 ай бұрын
My PC just burnt from thinking of it
@panan77779 ай бұрын
To developers: You DO realize space is 3D ????? And coming to 6 at enemy fighter WILL get you killed? Newton IS STILL valid. Go back to school and watch Expanse.
@TheRedKing9 ай бұрын
Aha i think they are aware, i assume it's limited by the engine
@troymcguffey880110 ай бұрын
I'm Commander McGuffey, and this is my favorite Channel on KZfaq
@ezequielmorales422110 ай бұрын
I just play humans #PurgeTheXenos #ForTheEmpire #ForTheGodEmperor
@nefreeko10 ай бұрын
i sure love the light show
@PitterPatter2010 ай бұрын
Who wrote these accounts? Are these original to Stellaris or repurposed stories like the Prothyeon Scourge stories?
@TheRedKing10 ай бұрын
The first bit regarding the Cybrex is taken from ingame, the 3 accounts of the battle are my own work, not derived from anything else.
@PitterPatter2010 ай бұрын
@@TheRedKing Well, the fact I couldn't tell the difference between your writing and professional authors is certainly a good sign you're doing something right!
@yayafino10 ай бұрын
Isn't it heavily implied that the Cybrex is the Machine Fallen Empire?
@TheRedKing10 ай бұрын
No?
@kizi221310 ай бұрын
The cybrex aren't the machine fallen empire they created the contingency
@TheRedKing10 ай бұрын
also not sure that's accurate, the Ren-Miruu created the Contingency @@kizi2213
@TheContingency25x10 ай бұрын
@@kizi2213That is false.
@dudupintarolas521410 ай бұрын
The cybrex are still around you just need to let the contingency get out of control like the sentinals for the prethorian
@skinnyman200910 ай бұрын
beautifully said 10/10
@troymcguffey880110 ай бұрын
Once again, another amazing story. I have a few questions, the first one is the fleet that has a power of a Million Suns, I wonder if that's a fleet power of 1 million. The next question is, do you think something like this would happen in game? Being that once they attack after 17 years they just stop attacking or do they just keep going until everybody's dead ?
@TheRedKing10 ай бұрын
To answer the second question, it doesn't happen in game with any DEs but it would be interesting if it was a possibility even if a remote one that they could have a change of heart...
@rivertownproductions10 ай бұрын
I thought the Cybrex lore said they didn’t even fight back when the fleet arrived. I’m confused. Edit: nevermind. I didn’t watch until the end. My bad
@mitchellgurney439010 ай бұрын
Redking has usurped luetin09 as my primary sleep audio
@TheRedKing10 ай бұрын
Usurping Luetin is huge praise
@mitchellgurney439010 ай бұрын
@TheRedKing your format of telling the story seems to flow abit smoother , plus your voice is abit more rhythmic, I started out listening to the templin institutes greater Terran union videos then moved to luetin , and both will always have a place in my sleep cycle but your Def first now
@raydark800710 ай бұрын
still wait lore for ancient cache of technologies and epic ship the herculean
@TheRedKing10 ай бұрын
Acot will come, don't worry :)
@raydark800710 ай бұрын
@@TheRedKing :D
@owenwhite3669 ай бұрын
take the fucking bug noises out or turn them down god damn waking me up at 2am freaking out
@JoeMama-bj9jw10 ай бұрын
You it's epic when the frame rate drops hard and the animation is choppy at best
@NickDufault-hd6jr10 ай бұрын
big lore
@TailboneStudios10 ай бұрын
Do you plan on doing anymore of the commonwealth stories?
@TheRedKing10 ай бұрын
More than likely for sure!!
@Anom_Anom10 ай бұрын
Im perma banned on discord Guess im back here ROUGE SERVITOR WHEN
@TheRedKing10 ай бұрын
Baha, I don't think the bot can perma ban? More likely it's a lengthy timeout