The LAST Keyboard You'll EVER Buy

The LAST Keyboard You'll EVER Buy | Happy Hacking Pro 2

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The Happy hacking Keyboard Professional 2 is the most expensive keyboard I've ever reviewed. What makes it so expensive and is it even that good? Let's find out!
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@elevate32767 4 жыл бұрын

Lol you and I both know there's no such thing as "this is the last ever keyboard I'm going to ever buy, ever."

@RabbitConfirmed 4 жыл бұрын

prove it

@binshuo 4 жыл бұрын

@@RabbitConfirmed I bought hhkb 3 years ago and gave it to a friend after a year. I've been using macbook builtin keyboard for a long time. Got a realforce r2 last month. Also purchased a NIZ Plum keyboard a few days ago and asked a friend to bring it to me from China.

@filmalpha2002 4 жыл бұрын

So true

3 жыл бұрын

@@RabbitConfirmed lol

@JackOfHarts96 5 жыл бұрын

The reason they used ABS for the spacebar is because large chunks of PBT are very prone to shrinking and/or warping.

@Tech-Fox 5 жыл бұрын

Good to know!

@josefaguilar2955 5 жыл бұрын

Came here to say this Great video overall. Very thorough.

@EddoWagt 5 жыл бұрын

The thing is though, most other decently priced boards out there come with a pbt space bar, even cheap keycap sets. And they don't all have a warped space bar, I think realforce can figure something out for that $250...

@JackOfHarts96 5 жыл бұрын

@@EddoWagt I'm pretty sure those keyboards / keycap sets you're talking of have ABS spacebars, PBT spacebars are pretty rare and come at a cost.

@EddoWagt 5 жыл бұрын

@@JackOfHarts96 I'm not so sure, my Anne Pro 2's space bar feels pretty much identical to the other caps, but maybe it's a really good abs bar. On my Vortex Race 3 it's definitely pbt, but it's slightly warped

@EricCorsi 4 жыл бұрын

I absolutely adore my HHKB and have a difficult time transitioning back to other keyboards now. I am an avid Linux command line user and the layout is golden for this purpose. However, for gaming, I do have a standard left hand half keyboard to workaround the downfalls of gaming on this board. I also utilize a 10 key on the side with arrow keys for the same reason.

@joshuafox6270 5 жыл бұрын

Dope keyboard. I also like the editing and sounds used in this video.

@xtraply 5 жыл бұрын

I'm a developer and daily *nix user, but I'm not sure I could handle $250 for a keyboard. However, I do like the recommendations you listed at the end, those are closer to my budget. Keep up the great videos!

@dmannion81 5 жыл бұрын

I love my HHKB, I use my Realforce R2 TKL with 45g silent Topre a little more and especially when gaming but my HHKB is still amazing and I would never get rid of it.

@Bekon241 3 жыл бұрын

Mr. can You tell me, You use HHKB to write only and other for gaming? Or You think this is best keyb. for writers? Thanks cheers, from Poland please answer me :).

@Anonomyous-cg1ye 3 жыл бұрын

not really in to tech but was looking for a new keyboard but I got to say the quality of this video and review is INSANE. It was very helpful and informative without any of the extra unnecessary and stupid jokes or video cuts other youtubers use . I went to look at your subscribers and was surprised you only had 16k it feels like you should have at least 100k. Hope you continue to grow.

@rakeshravindran3147 2 жыл бұрын

Being a HHKB user for the last 21 years. Earlier days of my college, it was a bit off and on but never used it that much. But been using ONLY the blank version for the last 11ish years since. Also, this is one of those keyboards where once you really learn it well, you won’t absolutely need to look at the keyboard. In fact if you are a person who needs to look on keyboard once in a while, this keyboard will make you go nuts. I don’t have any other keyboards and I can say that once you become super comfortable with this keyboard, no other keyboard will work for you. This doesn’t mean other keyboards are not as good. It is just that while learning this keyboard as a programmer was reasonably difficult, “unlearning” it is extremely difficult. Once you get used to this it is super hard to go other way. Over the last 10 years, I had to get 2 of these, one at home, one at office. To people who are worried about quality, these are some well built keyboards. I can tell you that the oldest one I have is the one I bought about 11 years ago and it still works without any issue. Up until about 1-2 years ago, I sold the then 16 year old one and got the hybrid one. Even that was running fine. I can’t yet comment on how good the hybrid one is.

@dpactestaccount 5 жыл бұрын

Such a great video. You definitely did your research and it shows. All such valid points. Topre really needs to be experienced. No MX style switch can recreate that smooth bump and thock.

@tobiasvl 5 жыл бұрын

True, but the closest I've found is Zilent.

@yuliusjrt9917 5 жыл бұрын

I was just looking up keyboards and this notification came up

@Tech-Fox 5 жыл бұрын

It’s for a very particular audience. I make a number of alternative recommendations at the end. Good luck!

@enthuusiasm 4 жыл бұрын

Yo I like the keyboard and all... But what song is that at the beginning?

@happysmash27 4 жыл бұрын

8:04: With two monitors, it may actually be easier to have it in the middle, as in my setup, if I were to use my desk, there would be monitors on either side. I use a separate keyboard tray, though, so cable placement is pretty irrelevant for me in practical terms. The main reason I like the HHKB is the UNIX keyboard layout with the control key in place of the caps lock key and no windows logo on the meta keys. There are not many other keyboards which provide this combination, unfortunately.

@Poopio 5 жыл бұрын

Only 1 minute in and that intro music was enough to hook me in for the remaining 11. Cheers

@Rushm 5 жыл бұрын

That’s the back ground on your pc! It’s looks amazing!

@taylorstarcevic1015 5 жыл бұрын

1:37 Don't think I don't see that hair.

@as1panda991 4 жыл бұрын

he used it duh

@user-fi2zs2ww1r 3 жыл бұрын

cringe comment

@surtrxoxo 5 жыл бұрын

there is a simple reason for using ABS instead of PBT for the spacebar. For longer keys like the 2.25U shifts, 2.5U shifts, 6.25U spacebar and 7U spacebar, the PBT will definitely shrink and warp in the cooling part of the injection moulding process, and it’s very hard to get them all straight. That’s all there is to it.

@Tech-Fox 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Good to know

@xk4l1br3 4 жыл бұрын

Sexiest keyboard intro ever

@juanecoperu 4 жыл бұрын

hkkb hybrid is out there. I hope you can review this hhkb new version. I love your reviews

@dylanl9532 4 жыл бұрын

wait so it's for programmer but no ctrl key? how do I use hotkeys then?

@zzMigMitzz 4 жыл бұрын

Dylan L ctrl is where capslock usually is. The way you hit it with the pinky is more ergonomic than the usual ctrl location. I actually map caps lock to ctrl on my ansii keyboard.

@memebrother7083 5 жыл бұрын

I’ve been using an HHKB for around one year now and will probably never go back to another keyboard. The Topre switches and layout is perfect. Word of warning though, this thing is insanely overpriced for what it is. I’d suggest finding a preowned one on eBay for less than 170. I got mine from a Japanese proxy for 160 during an amazon japan sale. NEVER pay full price for a Topre board

@jub8891 5 жыл бұрын

i got my pro2 for around $120 from Japan about 10 years ago.. pricing is crazy now though.. ive seen some places sell it for $400 or more now- its nuts

@Ryu53898 4 жыл бұрын

jub8891 how could I buy it from Japan ?

@binshuo 4 жыл бұрын

Bought HHKB 3 years ago. Used on and off for a year then gave it to a friend before I relocated to a different country. The layout makes no sense if you don't use Vim or Emacs. I got a realforce r2 tkl last month and it's much better.

@happysmash27 4 жыл бұрын

The HHKB Lite2 is also almost as good, despite being a fourth of the price. The main problem is the cable, which I have not yet found a way to order replacements for and which prompted my to get the Pro2 when it started failing. The cable **did** last about at least 4 years, however (I don't remember exactly when I got it), despite constantly being in transport.

@TokyoXtreme 2 жыл бұрын

I bought a Topre RealForce for Mac, and the build quality seems to blow the HHKB away… especially when paired with Karabiner Elements to customize the keys.

@Sunday8916 3 жыл бұрын

The HHKB type s is undoubtedly the only keyboard I will ever use. Love it so much!

@wilno45 4 жыл бұрын

great review... Thanks for just being factual and informative A breath of fresh air ....

@Anonomyous-cg1ye 3 жыл бұрын

I agree

@johnlara1365 4 жыл бұрын

Ok so I’m super late but the reason there are no arrows is because this keyboard was created for Linux and Unix users (keep in mind when this thing came out and also how many programmers use Vim) so in Unix and Linux you navigate left, up, down, and right by using the h, j, k, l keys. So for someone who is a Unix or Linux power user, the arrow keys are just extra space and not necessary. (I’m in university and basically all my programming assignments are pulled, cloned, and submitted using a Linux terminal, still prefer arrow keys but I can live without them if all I’m doing is using Linux) Edit: The reason the layout is that was is probably because for those who are new to Linux or that don’t use it altogether in favor windows or Mac, that layout is just more intuitive in comparison to h, j, k, l. Also the reason they probably won’t ever add arrow keys is because the appeal of this keyboard is that all keys can be reached from the home row, and their jankey layout is a compromise for non Linux users

@_NaLo_ 5 жыл бұрын

Just wanted to mention that to my knowledge PBT spacebars have only become standard in recent years due to improvements in manufacturing (see deskthority discussion on the issues with them deskthority.net/viewtopic.php?t=17438 ). The HHKB Pro 2 was released in 2006 and back then ABS spacebars were the norm. Also I really don't agree with your criticism of the arrow cluster, being able to use the arrows with one hand and doing so fairly ergonomically is one of the main reasons I love this keyboard.

@Xingqiwu387 5 жыл бұрын

Outstanding review! One of the most intelligent and articulate reviewers I've seen in a long time.

@ThunderDraws 4 жыл бұрын

HHKB Hybrid: allow me to introduce myself

@devilmayclarify666 4 жыл бұрын

What's the song in the intro?

@aygwm 3 жыл бұрын

The tactility of Topre is just right. Love it.

@alvarogonzalez2078 5 жыл бұрын

Lol that Intro was insta-like hahaha Nice review!

@syro4030 4 жыл бұрын

Geo Hotz uses this keyboard, but for some reason, this one sounds different.

@paianis 5 жыл бұрын

0:48 You super-imposed an old Betamax promo video as an effect for this rather long intro sequence.

@Tech-Fox 5 жыл бұрын

Good eye! Sony Beta Hi-Fi. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rK14rLCHsZmxXZc.html Along with some Japanese text from an old Japanese golf commercial.

@hannibalkim 4 жыл бұрын

HHKB is ok. It does have weird layout and it could have made with rigid material. Topre itself is quite nice but it is overpriced and bit overrated. IMO real force is better than hhkb.

@vcxz4009 5 жыл бұрын

Go with the realforce 87u if you wanna try topre for the first time. It has a normal layout, and has far better build quality.

@JackOfHarts96 5 жыл бұрын

True but I don't think this has bad build quality, it's pretty solid given how light it is.

@JackOfHarts96 5 жыл бұрын

@@botamochi5522 No, Realforce is Topre, HHKB is Fujitsu.

@jamesmaning4150 3 жыл бұрын

I think if it had qmk firmware instead of the dip switches this would be the ultimate keyboard. Since this keyboard is aimed at devs they should be able to easily compile a custom qmk layout

@greenhat7618 8 ай бұрын

The pro hybrid is programmable

@KidCoyle 4 жыл бұрын

You are very articulate. Great video.

@oozma1292 5 жыл бұрын

Cool keyboard, I’m broke though 😔

@MisterRorschach90 4 жыл бұрын

If I were rich I would get a happy hacking keyboard and mod it extensively.

@jub8891 5 жыл бұрын

i've had my hhkb pro 2 for almost 10 years now and wouldn't want to get any other kind of mechanical keyboard.. the price of this model has skyrocketed as of late though- maybe with the growing interest in mechanical keyboards from the gaming community

@pingwinsmurf2886 5 жыл бұрын

I've got one too for on the go, realforce 55g at home. Don't like either for gaming tho.

@jub8891 5 жыл бұрын

@@pingwinsmurf2886 nice, the realforce 55g looks like a decent k/b!

@TheRjee 5 жыл бұрын

@@jub8891 It is, very nice. Like the weighting more than the 45g on the HHKB.

@as1panda991 4 жыл бұрын

so what is the point of the keyboard

@as1panda991 3 жыл бұрын

@@silentpenguin3001 true I will buy it

@bidgiewidgie9594 4 жыл бұрын

sick intro gfx

@AdrianDucao 3 жыл бұрын

Last i ever bought cause its expensive i cant juts toss it out

@Bekon241 3 жыл бұрын

Price + size + no nupad = uselles. I can buy this kbd only if i can teke one home and test 1 month then i can realy know is worth that money, enen if you are great programer and You can write very fast num pad keyb is more faster then any other layout when you must use it.

@kingslave021 5 жыл бұрын

I'm not really an enthusiast but hearing him saying that the switch is long lasting makes me wanna buy it. I wish they made a another version that is catered to the more casual users.

@praetorxyn 5 жыл бұрын

Topre switches are expensive. The HHKB layout is brilliant, and you normally only see it in custom keyboards which are far more expensive. Ive never used a Topre switch but some people swear by them.

@arushguliani4106 4 жыл бұрын

Pretty much any mechanical switch will last a long time. If longevity is a concern, get a cheap Otemu keyboard. It will last 10s of millions of keypresses

@granityseis104 5 жыл бұрын

It's awesome,

@lentefrente 3 жыл бұрын

thumbs up for the intro music

@lunchbox1341 3 жыл бұрын

HOW is removing printed keyboards useful, i have a set of blank keycaps but its only to look cool, it is way more convienient to associate keys with letters in certain applications and look at the keyboard. by having nothing, you can only rely on remembering where the keys are and it can be a disadvantage(particularly for macros under layers) and its not like you are "losing compatibility" because windows boards do fine on mac systems just the print on a keycap is different. You only get these for style points

@rorroartchanel 3 жыл бұрын

I think this keyboard is mainly for vim

@amaya897 5 жыл бұрын

Good interesting switch but overrated af overall. The build quality is abysmal compared to what you can get for this money.

@nolan_sage 5 жыл бұрын

The switches do have a sort of hyper following, so I get that someone may find it overrated, but the build quality is just fine in my experience. It doesn't feel cheap at all, there's no flex in the case, the whole thing is really sturdy. The only reason I can think of that someone would call it cheap is that it doesn't have a metal plate like its Topre counterparts (Realforce, etc.).

@recalibrating4422 4 жыл бұрын

oh my god the aesthetics

@felbar22 4 жыл бұрын

Missing the RGB

@pingwinsmurf2886 5 жыл бұрын

HHKB ftw, comon. get the real thing

@hutzdani87 5 жыл бұрын

Really the HHKB is good but it's not even close to the last keyboard you'd ever buy. It's a generic board with a seemingly boring layout, it's not ergonomic and the key switches are a case of love or hate. Considering the price it's a risk for those who are not into the keyboard scene. Anything with the board slightly separated down the middle and each half slightly angled with your preferred layout 104 / TKL / 60% / 40% with your preferred switch type is always better than a slab style 60% I like to use a 40% for usual browsing and an ergoboard for playing games to help with strain on the arms for extended sessions.

@9manny99 4 жыл бұрын

There is no such thing as the last keyboard. Endgame does not exist.

@peppersaber 5 жыл бұрын

Should be titled: The Keyboard You'll NEVER Buy Unless You Are Willing To Live With Only One Kidney | HHKB Pro 2

@nolan_sage 5 жыл бұрын

oof you better not get into mechanical keyboards in general then

@peppersaber 5 жыл бұрын

@@nolan_sage already spent all my money on keyboards ooferoni

@nolan_sage 5 жыл бұрын

@@peppersaber big mood

@peppersaber 5 жыл бұрын

@@nolan_sage I don't regret much of it though. Only regret is my Corsair Strafe RGB I got. It's the most expensive keyboard I bought and is the worst one I got.

@nolan_sage 5 жыл бұрын

@@peppersaber nowhere to go but up. You can at least sell that to a gamer dudebro!

@gnuemacs1166 4 жыл бұрын

Great keyboard

@usakadam 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, this is definitely the last keyboard what I"ll might buy. It costs £318.00 on Amazon.

@e555t66 2 жыл бұрын

This is not the last keyboard I would buy. It would be a hhkb type s.

@ImActuallyABanana 4 жыл бұрын

thats literally the longest fucking intro ive ever encountered

@KH-ze9wo 3 жыл бұрын

I wanna buy it but with its price you could get 2 200 dollar keyboard

@xnexuzxnxz9323 2 жыл бұрын

BRUH.. like and sub only for that edit xD

@D.U.D.E- 3 жыл бұрын

Who looks at their keyboard when typing, grow up

@sanakhversionjeu 5 жыл бұрын

I'm glad to see that you're using the Drevo :)

@user-xp3nj4sw7n 4 жыл бұрын

Powerful

@M4TR1X 3 жыл бұрын

Expensive? AHAHAHA Check custom world

@huunhanle3809 3 жыл бұрын

He's not wrong though, for a stock factory one it's sure expensive ( Topre is hella expensive lol ).

@PaladinJenkis 4 жыл бұрын

I disagree with most said here, the arrow cluster is one of the best features of the HHKB, easy accessible form the home row, closely located to the dedicated function key, it's brilliant. PBT Spacebars are still a tricky process, PFU went for ABS to avoid warping. The ABS case adds smoothness to the typing feel, since you don't have a metal case with backplate, that actually is a plus many people tend to forget. The HHKB is by far the best out of the box keyboard out there, once you get used to the layout there is no way back. WASD keys as arrow cluster makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, since it will dramatically interfere with your regular editing workflows. Pretty much all IDEs, editors and other programms for text input and manipulation are build around the fact that your arrow cluster is located on your right hand side and not on your left, WASD arrow cluster will completely mess you up. Also Realforce is not a "Gaming" subsidiary, what the hell are you talking about? It's not even a subsidiary in the first place. It's a completely different brand. Realforce is a Topre brand, PFU produces the HHKB using Topre switches and is actually owned by Fujitsu. Next time, do your homework.

@CountCarbsNotCals 5 жыл бұрын

Is it wireless.

@xkevin2119x 5 жыл бұрын

no, but u can make it wireless by buying a hasu controller for like 85 dollars

@grantpeterson1789 5 жыл бұрын

Leverage leverage leverage leverage leverage leverage leverage leverage leverage

@paytonsrc5340 3 жыл бұрын

I liked the video because that thing is stupid expensive

@frostpigwastaken5594 3 жыл бұрын

i hAve the pro 2

@luketrichter2978 4 жыл бұрын

Great review!

@hamzahyousef4279 4 жыл бұрын

$240 Membrane keyboard... What has this world become

@ferni0 4 жыл бұрын

Hemzah Yousef you definitely are not the market or knowledgeable enough for this keyboard, yes it’s overpriced, but saying that it’s overpriced because of membrane is stupid

@Dhaydon75 4 жыл бұрын

It is a rubberdom keyboard but it is not a membran keyboard. It has PCB.

@thelastgenconsolegamer696 4 жыл бұрын

HHKB pro2 is over priced rubber dome keyboard. It is very nice but I cannot use keyboard without f and nav. I like real forces better.

@dandcc9192 4 жыл бұрын

how tf is it "The LAST Keyboard You'll EVER Buy" if it's pros:cons ratio is like 50:50? FFS, it's a hit-and-miss keyboard at best with this kind of a review. I was more satisfied when I bought my Chevy Sonic than this guy is with this keyboard, but I didn't call it "the last car I'll ever buy."

@Donbros 5 жыл бұрын

The layout is almost definetely made by someone who didn't use any keyboard before XD

@tobiasvl 5 жыл бұрын

It's designed by an emeritus computer scientist professor who's been using keyboards since the 1960s

@Donbros 5 жыл бұрын

@@tobiasvl and how this layour is comfortable especially at old times when there was consoles and terminals evetywhere

@joedartonthefenderbass 4 жыл бұрын

The layout is better

@MOGILEX 4 жыл бұрын

8:34 keyboard sounds thank me later

@j.franciscox3318 4 жыл бұрын

Definitely not gonna be the last keyboard you'll ever buy, because you'll get annoyed by the layout, sell it on craigslist, and buy something else.

@nokturthdanurd3056 4 жыл бұрын

This keyboard layout is too specific to be used. Most people aren't unix programmers. Also Leopold has better build quality from what I've heard.

@infamyboards4074 5 жыл бұрын

without a hasu controller and tmk, this keyboard is pretty much useless.

@JackiePrime 5 жыл бұрын

Yes,No Thank you, Alright why ? It’s supported me through my software development career in its stock form. Calling it useless without modifications seems a bit much.

@jub8891 5 жыл бұрын

@@JackiePrime same here- ive had mine for around 10 years and use it as intended

@JackOfHarts96 5 жыл бұрын

AutoHotkey provides enough potential for me.

@as1panda991 4 жыл бұрын

that keyboard looks like s*ht