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Lessons from the Screenplay

Lessons from the Screenplay

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In this video we chat with writer and creative director Neil Druckmann to learn about some of the techniques game designers use to tell their stories.
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Many people might not associate video games with "storytelling," but video games can tell deeply emotional stories with rich character arcs that you don’t simply watch unfold, you participate in. The 2013 game "The Last of Us" from developer Naughty Dog is one of the very best examples of how to tell a story through the medium of a video game.
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@gijsklaassen8851
@gijsklaassen8851 4 жыл бұрын
"Your watch is broken." Such a powerful sentence, it showsJoel is still mourning.
@adityanathan7059
@adityanathan7059 4 жыл бұрын
Gijs Klaassen and very subtle scoff that Joel responded with.. it has so many emotions into it.
@coll912
@coll912 4 жыл бұрын
Troy Baker stated during his play through with Nolan North that the watch is stuck on the time and exact moment of Sarah's death.
@adityanathan7059
@adityanathan7059 4 жыл бұрын
coll912 Well, there’s the bullet hole from the gun that killed Sarah on it ):
@shrikedoa
@shrikedoa 4 жыл бұрын
In the final scene he says "I struggled a long time with surviving" and then subconsciously touches the watch.
@crossbow170
@crossbow170 4 жыл бұрын
Its also symbolic of him refusing to move on, time has "stopped".
@aaaaaaaddss914
@aaaaaaaddss914 4 жыл бұрын
How can a game I've played 6 times already still make me emotional
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay 4 жыл бұрын
Really great storytelling.
@warrenwb8349
@warrenwb8349 4 жыл бұрын
I know right i get excited every time i see them damn Giraffes.
@KyroEmeraldblade
@KyroEmeraldblade 4 жыл бұрын
This video made me cry when neil started taking about Ellie’s innocence and the giraffe scene. It’s amazing how games are able to connect you to the characters so much more than film. I don’t think video games work for every story and film is better for most, but the last of us just has such a perfect story for the gaming medium. I think the blockbuster elements with an emphasis on a journey/exploration really work in favor of games. And it’s so easy to develop characters over a long journey or adventure, especially with writing as good as the last of us. It really all depends on the story you want to tell, I couldn’t imagine anything by tarkovsky as a game and something like god of war would not work as a film at all.
@AprilToprak
@AprilToprak 4 жыл бұрын
I know right
@JaziB
@JaziB 4 жыл бұрын
"Baby girl" gets me every time.
@__dane__
@__dane__ 4 жыл бұрын
One thing I love is that you can stay at the ledge with Ellie shown at 19:43 for as long as you want. You can stay there until the giraffes all walk off into the brush. You won’t progress until you as the player move Joel, he will stay leaning on the edge enjoying the view with Ellie
@jstarwars360
@jstarwars360 4 жыл бұрын
A nice eye of the storm moment. It reminds me of the train scene in Spirited Away.
@ThatOneDude521
@ThatOneDude521 3 жыл бұрын
@Stopped In Time a moment of calmness and peace in a world of chaos and madness
@Miyakolover
@Miyakolover Жыл бұрын
Yeah, great game design to just waste your time watching giraffes instead of questioning how they're still alive and not attacked by the infected or hungry hunters.
@Nick-kb2jc
@Nick-kb2jc 4 жыл бұрын
I laughed during the Last of Us, I cried during the Last of Us, I was terrified during the Last of Us, I got angry during the Last of Us, I was grossed out during the Last of Us. I experienced every human emotion possible during this game. I've always loved video games, but because of the Last of Us, they are now my passion. Naughty Dog made me realize the potential of video games as a storytelling medium, and I hope to get the opportunity to work in the industry some day.
@Nick-kb2jc
@Nick-kb2jc 4 жыл бұрын
@@tempsitch5632 I did!
@H.E.M.
@H.E.M. 4 жыл бұрын
Right now with leaks out everyone is angry and grossed out. Hopefully when the full game is out we’ll laugh and cry and also say “it wasn’t as bad as the leaks made it out to be”
@ac14cmpunk25
@ac14cmpunk25 4 жыл бұрын
@@H.E.M. nobody should buy the game with this fanfiction storyline beeing out now
@farrow9340
@farrow9340 4 жыл бұрын
Neil Brown how was he a dork ?
@Champion1209
@Champion1209 4 жыл бұрын
and now youll experience all those emotions again except it wont get better
@spartymatt9627
@spartymatt9627 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the respect you showed the medium- especially its uniqueness in the audience's interaction/agency. Hopefully this can be one more small step to the public understanding video games as a form of art!
@TT-wx4tg
@TT-wx4tg 4 жыл бұрын
Well said. With the advent of VR, it will easily surpass the failing art of film and Hollywood will look like the set of The Last Of Us
@madeofcastiron
@madeofcastiron 4 жыл бұрын
i'm as casual of a gamer as it can get, but it makes me so frustrated how some people still don't think that video games can be a form of art. if anything, video games are every form of art there is because every game has all different aspects of art put into making them, like artists draw and model the characters, actors/voice actors act as the characters, writers write the stories and dialogues, sound engineers make the music and sound effects, and even more. you're right that video games should be a medium taken seriously more.
@princessthyemis
@princessthyemis 4 жыл бұрын
couldn't have said it better myself! I mean that!
@Luclv
@Luclv 4 жыл бұрын
The last of us really isnt the best exemple of a game with a lot of agency. TLOUs gameplay is one corridor after another, yeah sure you can do different things each playtrought, but its pretty straightforward, not even near mass effect level of agency, for exemple. On the envoriment aspect FROM SOFTWARE blows Naughtydog out of the water.
@spartymatt9627
@spartymatt9627 4 жыл бұрын
@@Luclv I'd agree that it isn't a lot of agency compared to other video games, but I it's more agency compared to film. I think the important part is that video games give the player a chance to be more immersed in the story by being a part of the mechanics. I think of God of War when Atreus starts being a little shit and doesn't listen to your button commands anymore... That shit got me just as furious as Kratos must have been in that very moment!
@akidra0519
@akidra0519 4 жыл бұрын
Damn, just flex on us like that, it's fine
@dancorwin9232
@dancorwin9232 4 жыл бұрын
I think that he means we were expecting a video essay and then no its actually an interview with the director of the game. Like, thats pretty cool
@SkyreeXScalabar
@SkyreeXScalabar 4 жыл бұрын
@@thomassowellaudiobooks6441 flex just means show-off, his comment was just a joke like saying "Why you gotta show off?"
@IvanMosquito
@IvanMosquito 4 жыл бұрын
The Flex on Us
@HxH2011DRA
@HxH2011DRA 4 жыл бұрын
@@IvanMosquito LMFAOOOOO
@kyleisbart197
@kyleisbart197 4 жыл бұрын
Guy Mor flex is good
@arditlika9388
@arditlika9388 4 жыл бұрын
During the giraffe scene, I waited a bit before opening the door. I wanted to give Ellie a couple of more minutes before moving on
@abblegabble477
@abblegabble477 4 жыл бұрын
I like how even when you do press the button to open the door, Joel reaches for the door handle but stops and reminds Ellie she doesn't have to go through with it. They can still turn around and live in the settlement. This was Joel recognizing, in that moment with the giraffes, that the innocence in Ellie is still very much alive. She's not lost yet. Gah, this game is so special.
@baldingsan457
@baldingsan457 4 жыл бұрын
I’d love seeing one of these kind of videos from Part II. Specially after hearing what Neil says at the beginning of this video about the concept of “being” a character that Part II takes to exponential levels
@connerdearing
@connerdearing 3 жыл бұрын
I think him saying here he wants you to be the character and not yourself is very crucial. People complain so much about not liking what Ellie is doing during part 2 as if it’s not a linear story game just like the first lol. You don’t get to make a choice if you did everyone would go for the same choices and the story would suck ass
@mrbigglezworth42
@mrbigglezworth42 3 жыл бұрын
@@connerdearing It already does suck ass, what people didn't like was that the story makes some....questionable choices with the characters people love (Ellie and Joel) for characters, well really just one, that hardly anyone found endearing. If the game genuinely wanted to tell a story with dark themes and a protagonist doing morally repugnant things, then Druckman should've taken a look at Spec Ops: The Line which does damn near everything he tries to do....except, you know, competently. Hell, Spec Ops even plays with gaming conventions to further mess with the player and by extension Cpt. Walker as he slowly loses his mind and is desperate to cope with the horrors he continues to see and commit. The Last of Us is probably one of the best narratively focused games that's been made, it just has a pretty horrible follow up to a story that felt pretty complete by the end even if some threads are left up to interpretation.
@berlinstoli6326
@berlinstoli6326 2 жыл бұрын
@@mrbigglezworth42 complete clown
@FERKILL377
@FERKILL377 Жыл бұрын
@@berlinstoli6326 you are
@Zelein
@Zelein 4 жыл бұрын
I honestly believe the opening to The Last of Us is the best opener there has ever been in a video gamer. It's just a work of art, nothing less
@ohauss
@ohauss 4 жыл бұрын
Too bad that after they made such a marketing campaign about the scientifically plausible background of the story, the ending is a completely constructed, pseudoscientific FU to anyone with a pertinent science background.
@danieljones6957
@danieljones6957 4 жыл бұрын
@@ohauss Umm its a post apocalyptic video game... it not being real is what makes it fun and exciting
@patch1968
@patch1968 4 жыл бұрын
Oliver H May you elaborate on that?
@ravleenliu4946
@ravleenliu4946 4 жыл бұрын
Have you seen the opening to uncharted 2?
@93Dieselguy
@93Dieselguy 4 жыл бұрын
I think Bioshock's opening is just a touch more atmospheric, but TLOU is a masterpiece, no doubt.
@Blossom1232
@Blossom1232 4 жыл бұрын
Dang, now your grabbing the actual creators of the story to explain! Now that's EXTRA quality content! lol
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay 4 жыл бұрын
Hoping to do more of it! Big thanks to Neil for being on board with it!
@j.a.weishaupt1748
@j.a.weishaupt1748 4 жыл бұрын
Tavi Your Neighborhood Artist *you’re
@siahhumphrey8493
@siahhumphrey8493 4 жыл бұрын
Lessons from the Screenplay if you guys could get Cory Barlog from Sony Santa Monica to talk about God of War 2018, that would be epic!
@CelestialDraconis
@CelestialDraconis 4 жыл бұрын
@@siahhumphrey8493 I second this!
@luk11c4
@luk11c4 4 жыл бұрын
Why this "lol" is at end of sentence?
@pearlmcj
@pearlmcj 4 жыл бұрын
Druckmann: hi, I’m Neil Druckmann... me: huh, I don’t think I’ve seen the interview this clip is from Druckmann: and this is Lessons from the Screenplay me: ...holy SHIT Seriously, congrats on this incredible opportunity and amazing video! I’ve been watching your videos for over two years now, and your growth has been such a joy to watch. You did a wonderful job with this interview, and I can’t wait to see what your next incredible opportunity will be!
@chimedemon
@chimedemon 2 жыл бұрын
I had the exact same reaction
@Insidious_Rage
@Insidious_Rage Жыл бұрын
Neil is a tool and part of the elites dirty secrets hidden in their closets
@shawnbeak6048
@shawnbeak6048 4 жыл бұрын
Sarah's death still destroys me, each and every time. Naughty Dog are masters of their craft.
@khimaros
@khimaros 4 жыл бұрын
The only cut scene I skip every time I replay it.
@reterumstrict1091
@reterumstrict1091 4 жыл бұрын
khimaros lmao😂
@alysevilla9406
@alysevilla9406 4 жыл бұрын
Well, not anymore.
@TheLemming1337
@TheLemming1337 4 жыл бұрын
Aged like milk
@sebastianpazmino1556
@sebastianpazmino1556 4 жыл бұрын
Damn people still bitching about the plot of LOU2?? It was a genius game
@madphantom92
@madphantom92 4 жыл бұрын
After playing The Last of Us storytelling became my number one interest instead of gameplay. A good story will never leave your mind that's why The Last of Us is still talked about to this day.
@Cody27
@Cody27 4 жыл бұрын
isnt the point of this video that story and gameplay are inherently intertwined and to tell a truly good story in games you need it to work with the gameplay.
@madphantom92
@madphantom92 4 жыл бұрын
@@Cody27 Yes that's the point of the video.
@Cody27
@Cody27 4 жыл бұрын
@@madphantom92 if storytelling is your #1 then so is gameplay.
@FlesHBoX
@FlesHBoX 4 жыл бұрын
I'm the same way. It has actually almost ruined gaming for me, since so few studios seem to be putting any real effort into it.
@Cody27
@Cody27 4 жыл бұрын
@@FlesHBoX I agree. I feel like its one of those things that once you notice its missing it becomes glaring. The new SW Jedi game comes to mind.
@karib3909
@karib3909 4 жыл бұрын
Of course you had to show the "oh baby girl" scene and now I'm sobbing, thanks.
@HeySorz
@HeySorz 4 жыл бұрын
Kari B Haven’t played the game in years and I cried when that scene was showed. God, it still gets us!
@BikramAgarwal
@BikramAgarwal 4 жыл бұрын
Finished playing this game today. Another thing I noticed about the Joel and Ellie fight - While they were angry with each other, Joel wasn't calling out to Ellie whenever he found a new comic book. I thought that was really cool that the programmers thought of that too.
@swoozie
@swoozie 4 жыл бұрын
great vid- great editing- great game choice
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@justsomegirlwithoutamustache
@justsomegirlwithoutamustache 2 жыл бұрын
yo
@Hentaicho
@Hentaicho 4 жыл бұрын
To any who enjoyed this and the game; I highly recommend watching Grounded: The Making of The Last of Us
@josefacundo6140
@josefacundo6140 4 жыл бұрын
Will do, thanks 👍
@emareoh_aviation
@emareoh_aviation 4 жыл бұрын
Mads Arvidsson and also watch The Last of Us: one night live
@Isaacreeper
@Isaacreeper 4 жыл бұрын
Yeet, that was one of the best things I have ever seen
@0biRonKenobi
@0biRonKenobi 4 жыл бұрын
Just watched it a couple days ago. Probably one of the better documentaries I've watched.
@bartolomeumalfeitor965
@bartolomeumalfeitor965 4 жыл бұрын
i can't see it any more times, I've exhausted almost every bit of content relating to the last of us, i just need the part II, IT'S BEEN SO FUCKING LONG
@tannerrobb8379
@tannerrobb8379 4 жыл бұрын
There’s a common comment on many KZfaq videos saying “Never clicked on a video so fast”. But today I did that. I made a giant gasp and started the video instantly. And then I gasped again when Neil Freaking Druckmann shows up!
@princessthyemis
@princessthyemis 4 жыл бұрын
ME TOO! Exactly!!!!!
@annaluisacruz1296
@annaluisacruz1296 Жыл бұрын
love how he talks about what makes the storytelling so great always with a proud grin on his face, like, he knows he made something amazing
@carlos7mh
@carlos7mh 4 жыл бұрын
Video game as a medium for story telling is so young that it’s exciting to think that most of the masters are just about to arise
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay 4 жыл бұрын
Check out our new video on The Witcher 3 over on our new gaming-focused channel, Story Mode: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a82midNqyLacqJc.html LFTS patrons can now watch extra clips from my interview with Neil Druckmann. Here's 22 minutes of Neil talking about the storytelling of The Last of Us: www.patreon.com/posts/32102950 What are some of your favorite video game storylines? And who's excited for The Last of Us Part 2?
@Bryan-T
@Bryan-T 4 жыл бұрын
final fantasy 6
@IlSH2
@IlSH2 4 жыл бұрын
something with an actual gameplay, wether it has a story or not.
@someguy4096
@someguy4096 4 жыл бұрын
Lessons from the Screenplay Undertale
@stickwoodthebrand
@stickwoodthebrand 4 жыл бұрын
Lessons from the Screenplay I love uncharted 4 so much
@rodrrrgo
@rodrrrgo 4 жыл бұрын
God of War!!!!
@The_RedVIII
@The_RedVIII 4 жыл бұрын
You got Neil for this video? That's awesome! The Last of Us is a masterpiece.
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay 4 жыл бұрын
It was really fun getting chatting with him!
@rrrrnk9685
@rrrrnk9685 4 жыл бұрын
Hmmm.......i have to say is the best game ever made for me
@prateekarora4880
@prateekarora4880 4 жыл бұрын
New life goal: make something so good that LFTS wants to do a video on it.
@KamtheAstro
@KamtheAstro 4 жыл бұрын
Same
@Claraxesx
@Claraxesx 4 жыл бұрын
I'm currently writing my thesis on how the last of us tells an effective story and what it means for games as a narrative medium. This video came out just at the right time :) it's great to hear this from a developers perspective
@razbuten
@razbuten 4 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the dark side. You're a gamer now. On the real, The Last of Us does a lot of cool things in regards to connecting the player to Joel (and Ellie). The events in the beginning explain his actions at the end, and even though as a player I was like, "yeah, this seems like the wrong thing to do," because I was playing as Joel, I knew that he would do anything to not let the past repeat itself. It gets you to understand a guy who is willing to become a monster instead of losing someone he cares about, which is a pretty wild accomplishment. Good game. Good video. God of War 2018 is calling your name now.
@pedrohpf1990
@pedrohpf1990 4 жыл бұрын
What's the next game your wife is playing? i loved those two first episodes :)
@razbuten
@razbuten 4 жыл бұрын
@@pedrohpf1990 Minecraft.
@ohauss
@ohauss 4 жыл бұрын
The problem with that ending was that it was complete BS in terms of the need to save Ellie. The rationale was utter nonsense.
@adityanathan7059
@adityanathan7059 4 жыл бұрын
Oliver H care to elaborate on that?
@warrenwb8349
@warrenwb8349 4 жыл бұрын
@@ohauss How so? How is saving someone you love not rationale?
@LikeStoriesofOld
@LikeStoriesofOld 4 жыл бұрын
This was fantastic! So cool to (finally) see you cover a videogame, and how amazing is it that you got Neil on the show, how did that happen?
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay 4 жыл бұрын
Lucked out and was able to get in touch with someone at Naughty Dog who knew the channel. We’ve literally been trying to make it happen for years.
@raymk
@raymk 4 жыл бұрын
Alright, guys, let's make a collab to talk about impactful video games
@ac14cmpunk25
@ac14cmpunk25 4 жыл бұрын
he ruin things
@camrobbo47
@camrobbo47 4 жыл бұрын
The game aged like fine wine... This video aged like a fine apple
@beegmo9666
@beegmo9666 4 жыл бұрын
They're not taking about part II
@Beautifulcoil
@Beautifulcoil 3 жыл бұрын
Man, TLOU (I + II) were just mind blowing. I felt things I've never felt before or after playing it. It was an experience I'll remember for my entire life.
@lhawes
@lhawes 4 жыл бұрын
So cool that you got Neil to come on the show. He's a storytelling genius
@samwallaceart288
@samwallaceart288 4 жыл бұрын
Levi Hawes - Yeah he’s got his stuff together. ... I still think the final chapter is really rushed tho.
@Am-zf3gq
@Am-zf3gq 4 жыл бұрын
@@samwallaceart288 ohhh shut up
@linkinlinkinlinkin654
@linkinlinkinlinkin654 4 жыл бұрын
@@samwallaceart288 that's the point I think. Everything gets a fast pacing at the end. To make us feel the stress Joel is feeling
@samwallaceart288
@samwallaceart288 4 жыл бұрын
As in, Marlene says “we’re gonna’ kill Ellie for dubious reasons.” And Joel, rather than asking reasonable questions about such drastic measures; rather than hunting down a doctor to get a second opinion, rather than finding out if Ellie is even aware of the situation, he just immediately jumps to “kill everyone” as his first option. That scene could have better confirmed and justified the situation beyond just taking Marlene at her word that it is indeed an all-or-nothing situation. It’s a contrivance that Joel makes that jump in the span of 5 minutes. I get why it happened like that for game pacing, but I don’t buy it unfolding and escalating that fast from a story and character pov. All they needed was just one extra scene where Joel corners an actual doctor and gets more concrete facts about Ellie’s situation from someone who knows what they’re talking about. Just to help clarify the absurdity of the situation.
@Am-zf3gq
@Am-zf3gq 4 жыл бұрын
@@samwallaceart288 ohh you didnt play the game properly..there were tapes mentioning how they found similarly people like Ellie in the hospital..abd guess what they didnt survive the test and secondly a father knowing his daughter is on the verge of death! And according to you he should have called 'The Manager' and should have a civil talk😂
@shamusquinn3891
@shamusquinn3891 4 жыл бұрын
Lesson 1: At least one of your central characters shouldn’t be able to swim.
@samwallaceart288
@samwallaceart288 4 жыл бұрын
Shamus Quinn - Watched enough game essays to know this refers to more than one property. I feel smart.
@Skitz0frenix
@Skitz0frenix 4 жыл бұрын
Ellie grew up inside a camp without any pools/lakes or anything to learn where to swim. Great writing
@shamusquinn3891
@shamusquinn3891 4 жыл бұрын
Such attention to detail. It’s expertly crafted.
@Jakeyisdead
@Jakeyisdead 4 жыл бұрын
Works for red dead redemption 1 and 2
@Gameboi834
@Gameboi834 4 жыл бұрын
Brothers: A Tale of Two Sons, too.
@davidsmith8279
@davidsmith8279 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a parent...and the opening sequence of TLOU could not have been more impactful for me. I was utterly hooked and in almost 40 years of playing video games I've never experienced anything like TLOU before or after. A true masterpiece of the medium.
@StrongMed
@StrongMed 4 жыл бұрын
Seeing this topic for your latest video just made my day. Thanks!
@colinjensen8303
@colinjensen8303 4 жыл бұрын
AHHHH FAVORITE CHANNEL DOING A GAME FOR THE FIRST TIME AND ITS MY FAVORITE OF ALL TIME AHHHH
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay 4 жыл бұрын
:D
@JoeBrando_
@JoeBrando_ 4 жыл бұрын
Soon as I saw the title I knew it was gonna be a ride.
@RustleXer
@RustleXer 4 жыл бұрын
This is my favourite video game of all time. The story is so rich with backstories an lore that it’s a life of its own. When you posted this, I was beyond excited to watch.
@Screened
@Screened 4 жыл бұрын
Great appreciation of video game writing!
@Krispiiee
@Krispiiee 4 жыл бұрын
that flex at the beginning got me im so proud of you
@shrikedoa
@shrikedoa 4 жыл бұрын
I'd be interested in your take on Journey. There's no explicit story, but there is a definite overwhelming effect that is built over the experience. At the end I had an extremely emotional reaction (joyful tears, more or less) but to this day I can't really explain why. Maybe you can!
@semanticsamuel936
@semanticsamuel936 4 жыл бұрын
Journey is the purest type of game in that it's all game. The Last of Us relies pretty heavily on cutscenes and reading to deliver its story. Journey has none of that. Everything is told through the gameplay, fully embracing the medium. It's extremely powerful. I'd love to see a breakdown on how it actually achieves that.
@Space_Ache
@Space_Ache 4 жыл бұрын
Cried uncontrollably at the end of Journey. Didn't know why. Still dont really know why. I just know it changed me. It helped me move forward and let go of a lot I had been holding on to. Journey cannot be explained. It must be experienced.
@RAGERPLAYS
@RAGERPLAYS 4 жыл бұрын
I can’t wait for last of us 2 vid. I really feel that game shook me emotionally more than any piece of media
@WhiteWaterAlchemist
@WhiteWaterAlchemist 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine LFTS flexing even more with an interview with Hideo Kojima
@bryal7811
@bryal7811 4 жыл бұрын
I love Brothers: A Tale of Two Sons take on storytelling through game play. Using a side of the controller for each brother was really clever. There's a part in the story where the older brother (left side of the controller) is gone and the younger brother (right side of the controller) must perform a task the older brother normally did. It's a great moment of character development that's felt in both the narrative and is reinforced by the control scheme.
@domantasl
@domantasl 4 жыл бұрын
That moment is the absolute pinnacle of meaningful gameplay in my eyes. I was looking for how to get through that area and even when I understood that I had to swim, I did not expect it to happen the way it did. I had to put down the controller for a minute and take in what just happened. Many games strive to achieve meaningful gameplay moments, but few get there. The ladder moment in TLoU is as close as their mechanics allowed and it's one of the best moments of the game. These games are prime examples of when you can proudly say that games can be art. No buts or ifs. Not all games are (just as not all movies) and not all games have to be, but there are plenty that proudly stand in that category.
@internisus
@internisus 4 жыл бұрын
No exaggeration: One of the greatest moments in videogames. A condensed thesis statement for its power as a medium.
@AndreyKurenkov
@AndreyKurenkov 4 жыл бұрын
Love that you point out the ladder moment at 17:30 , so understated yet powerful.
@northuniverse
@northuniverse 4 жыл бұрын
Game has jump button 10/10 masterpiece
@LiliRoche
@LiliRoche 4 жыл бұрын
can't wait to discuss part 2 now that the game is out.
@fuziontonygaming
@fuziontonygaming 4 жыл бұрын
Here we go
@maxk4471
@maxk4471 4 жыл бұрын
there is nothing to discuss. The script and narrative are complete trash.
@rudfilmsstudios
@rudfilmsstudios 4 жыл бұрын
@@maxk4471 Dont just jump onto the bandwagon and go on mob mentality and cancel culture. You dont know what you're saying
@leakedtrailersinc.6734
@leakedtrailersinc.6734 4 жыл бұрын
@@rudfilmsstudios I've played the game and it was quite bad
@tr1f0rc33
@tr1f0rc33 4 жыл бұрын
@@leakedtrailersinc.6734 I've played the game and it was quite good.
@AngryAndyToth
@AngryAndyToth 4 жыл бұрын
12:45 is probably my favourite part of the game in a story perspective. "can't deny that view" Joel smiles for the first time and looks down at his watch. He's thinking about Sarah after spending little time with Ellie. It breaks me every time.
@Rikku147
@Rikku147 4 жыл бұрын
I remember in the behind the scenes they mentioned this was something that was added during the rendering of the scene. Him looking at his watch wasn't in the script or performed by the actor. It really shows how much the medium of video games can give artists the chance to play fully with their stories.
@ktran137
@ktran137 4 жыл бұрын
The collab i never knew I needed
@nataliecordero9518
@nataliecordero9518 4 жыл бұрын
I finished the last of us this week and have been watching every interview and video I can on it, and this has been my favorite one. thank you for laying out why this video game is so incredible, i tried to explain it to a friend yesterday and now I'm going to send them this because it does a perfect job of explaining :]
@laurenbendik2006
@laurenbendik2006 11 ай бұрын
I havent played the game but am here because i loved the show….fascinating to see how writing a story works, video game and tv.
@Vince009
@Vince009 4 жыл бұрын
Would you kindly do a video on BioShock?
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay 4 жыл бұрын
I see what you did there ;)
@ragglock
@ragglock 4 жыл бұрын
Second
@averagejoe6617
@averagejoe6617 4 жыл бұрын
@@ragglock he gets it!
@HQH420
@HQH420 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for putting into words what I could never explain to everyone whose ever asked me why I love video games
@spencerboone10
@spencerboone10 3 жыл бұрын
The Last of Us is my favorite game of all time. Shame they never made a sequel.
@connorthompson5029
@connorthompson5029 3 жыл бұрын
Hahahahahaha funny Clown
@xxscarfaycexx8152
@xxscarfaycexx8152 3 жыл бұрын
@@connorthompson5029 L
@Raymando
@Raymando 4 жыл бұрын
The timing of this video was insane. I have watched and admired all of your stuff since years and always have wanted to make video essays of my own. And I finaly made one on this very topic less than a week back. This is such a compelling thing to talk about since the storytelling of videogames and cinema is so different yet derivative in a way that we can't ignore. Just like theatre and cinema have grown into separate mediums.
@oskar2930
@oskar2930 4 жыл бұрын
Rated M for Masterpiece
@stoppls1709
@stoppls1709 4 жыл бұрын
lmao
@harvey4385
@harvey4385 4 жыл бұрын
About that
@aaronm4841
@aaronm4841 4 жыл бұрын
Harvey Mc Nuggets it is tho
@ttime441
@ttime441 4 жыл бұрын
Here’s to another masterpiece
@palebluenarratives
@palebluenarratives 4 жыл бұрын
Marvel: The Most Ambitious Crossover Event in History. LFTS: Hold my beer.
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay 4 жыл бұрын
;)
@jazzbycat
@jazzbycat 4 жыл бұрын
Guys, you don't know how important this video is for me. My thesis is to make a script of a videogame, and the main question was always about the story in the videogame, how to incorporate elements from the literature, how to make a good story in videogames. I'm so happy, thank you so much!
@brandonholtz5309
@brandonholtz5309 4 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad they went over the cannibal sequence. That was one of my favorite parts of the game bc it changed the story so much.
@muffy6519
@muffy6519 4 жыл бұрын
It's so rare that people appreciate games on the same narrative level as movies! Love it!
@rk_092neo
@rk_092neo 4 жыл бұрын
Video games have surpassed Hollywood already as a medium. People are just too ignorant.
@muffy6519
@muffy6519 4 жыл бұрын
@@rk_092neo I wouldn't say "surpass", more like "found a unique type of narrative that takes full advantage of the inherent advantages to the medium" I believe it's impossible for one artistic medium to surpass another as art is subjective. Also people aren't ignorant, they're just happy with what they have. If they insult video games then they're prejudiced.
@rk_092neo
@rk_092neo 4 жыл бұрын
@@muffy6519 you bring up true points, but the quality of content in Hollywood movies have declined in the last several years whilst video games have produced stunning and memorable stories like RDR2 and The Last of Us for example. Why do you think Hollywood are Keen to make movie adaptations of popular video games? Because they don't want to admit that they have nearly run out of original ideas and they want to cash in on what has already been established with the audience.
@muffy6519
@muffy6519 4 жыл бұрын
@@rk_092neo Let me just start off by saying I overall prefer video games for storytelling as I find I'm able to immerse myself in the story better. Now, let me also say that "Hollywood is running out of ideas" is ridiculous. There are infinitely more ideas then there ever will be reality. The correct statement is "Hollywood is running out of PROFITABLE ideas." Hollywood is first and foremost a business and a business's first priority is always to make money. That's the nature of businesses in a capitalist economy. Minimize costs, Maximize profit. Why bother spending resources coming up with an original movie idea when you can recycle the plot of a critically claimed move from 2 decades ago and simply pressing "RTX on" and have it be one of the highest earning movies ever. Occasionally you'll get a passion project through once you've earned enough trust (money) for the business, but that's rare. But let me tell you a secret, video games are also made by businesses. Haven't you noticed the recent resurgence of remasters/remake/rerelease? Money. I'm not complaining, I'm glad some of these games got updated for the newest platform, but the truth is that money is the primary motivation for making it. For every Last of Us, there's 3 FPSs with shiny new guns, every RDR2 10 new EA sports games that somehow get worse over time. The same is true for movies. The culmination of 11 years of hard work was paid off amazingly in Endgame and it did a way better job at finishing a story told over multiple entries and setting up the next generation then Kingdom Hearts III did for sure. But, by the same token, Alien: Isolation remains the most horrifying piece of media I've ever consumed. There's pros and cons on both sides.
@paulkou93
@paulkou93 4 жыл бұрын
I truly believe LFTS is one of the most inspirational KZfaqrs. Thank you for the work that you put into these videos.
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay 4 жыл бұрын
From all of us: Thank you
@dillydally7327
@dillydally7327 4 жыл бұрын
NEIL, YOU GONE FUCKED IT UP.
@berlinstoli6326
@berlinstoli6326 2 жыл бұрын
NO
@manumitir
@manumitir 4 жыл бұрын
Dude, honestly, there is something very beautiful in your videos. I really, really enjoy how the focus of what you analyze never looses touch with artistic expression in favor of over-technicalities. it is just the right and sober amount of dissection in order to reveal the techniques behind these amazing scripts and how they accomplish what they do. Again, thanks so much for your videos!
@HxH2011DRA
@HxH2011DRA 4 жыл бұрын
When Ellie didn't immediately go for the later, I felt that
@PajamaZam
@PajamaZam 4 жыл бұрын
If you havent played the last of us, you are honestly doing yourself a disservice. One of the best stories and some of the best emotional storytelling ive ever seen or played
@MikeRoberts1964
@MikeRoberts1964 4 жыл бұрын
One of the great things about this game is the amount of care that went into the choices of set pieces and the 1000s of little details that go into making the world seem so relatable to us and therefore so interesting to play; you go through an office building and there's a sign asking people to wash their dishes, just like we have at my office, there's photos of the family and kids, there's bongs and high school athletic medals hanging in the college dorms... You really get a sense of a well thought-out, populated world that was interrupted by this virus.
@SatansBestBuddy1
@SatansBestBuddy1 4 жыл бұрын
In my humble opinion, the best story telling game I've ever played is Papers, Please. There's a short film based on the game. It has the music, the tone, the atmosphere of the game, but utterly fails to tell the story of the game at all. Comparing the game versus the short film is a stark reminder of exactly how games tell stories differently. There is no montage in the game, for example, as the short film runs through a number of people passing through very quickly, which you can never do in the game. There are also no decisions to be made while watching. You see the nameless main character presented with a choice that he needs to dwell on for a moment, but what's going through his head cannot compared to what's going through your head when presented with the same choice in the game. And the dozens of interwoven narratives in the game are only hinted at in the short film, since they are so complicated and take so long to get through. Ultimately the feel of the short and the feel of playing the game are vastly different because Papers, Please relies on you, the player, to tell the story. It is a story telling tool. Which is something even the greatest of movies cannot emulate.
@kattankarl
@kattankarl 2 жыл бұрын
Great explanation, hope people read this. Whatever you think of last of us, the story could've been told the exact same way with a movie. It barely uses the medium games provide which makes it a pretty bland example of storytelling through games I think.
@SuperSaiyan3985
@SuperSaiyan3985 4 жыл бұрын
The Last of Us is, to this day, the greatest story I've ever experienced.
@Pablo-xp5je
@Pablo-xp5je 4 жыл бұрын
+supersaiyan3985 Yeah me too. It's true that a game CAN immerse you in some ways a movie can't. Even if the opposite is also true, The Last of Us is just pure emotion. That even when the story itself is not that original breakthrough it does move you like anything else. The way I cared for these characters, for their journey and their destination is just unbelievable. If something happened to them it would break my heart more than any movie or series twist ever has. I'm waiting on The Last of Us Part II so much I just had to watch this video.
@Aiman-yu6qg
@Aiman-yu6qg 4 жыл бұрын
To me this is the game that truly showed that video game are art and that it showed people who though video games were nothing more then just button mashing can actually show and tell deep and interesting stories
@thieutran2694
@thieutran2694 4 жыл бұрын
Neil Druckmann: Nope!
@user-bh1mi3qc4p
@user-bh1mi3qc4p 4 жыл бұрын
This didn't age well
@SuperSaiyan3985
@SuperSaiyan3985 4 жыл бұрын
@@thieutran2694 LOL
@GrayFlare
@GrayFlare 4 жыл бұрын
Man who's cutting onions up in here?? 😭😭😭
@mori-cq5282
@mori-cq5282 4 жыл бұрын
Wew. This aged well.
@MrWizeazz
@MrWizeazz 4 жыл бұрын
Skitch! 1.0 Yep. I’m thinking maybe Joel should have taught Ellie how to golf instead of how to play the guitar. Maybe he would have stood a chance if that had happened.
@ac14cmpunk25
@ac14cmpunk25 4 жыл бұрын
not
@danielh6559
@danielh6559 4 жыл бұрын
It DID. Just because you don't like the direction of the story doesn't make it a badly written one.
@CUNOWINS
@CUNOWINS 4 жыл бұрын
Daniel H Thank you.
@colinjensen8303
@colinjensen8303 4 жыл бұрын
Hannibal Solo Haha funny golf joke. Never heard that one before.
@kamilas7737
@kamilas7737 9 ай бұрын
I am surprised this video doesn’t have more views. It surely deserves them 🌟
@warrenwb8349
@warrenwb8349 4 жыл бұрын
This is my absolute favorite episode of Lessons from the screenplay. Last of us is an amazing experience so it was awesome to see you sit down with Neil and breakdown what made it so great. Bro that Giraffe scene has to be my favorite moment in any video game ever.
@JakeBirkelGooglePlus
@JakeBirkelGooglePlus 4 жыл бұрын
I've got to say, I try to watch every movie before you upload a video essay on it and I've been meaning to get this game for a while. This video might have put me over the top so I'm sure I'll view it in a few weeks once I've finished the game!
@d-skullgaming696
@d-skullgaming696 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant. The thing that always stuck with me about The Last of Us, is the amount of little character moments that you never get in cutscenes: Ellie giving Joel a picture of his daughter, Ellie and Sam playing together, Joel giving Bill the note of his deceased partner, etc. The Last of Us is filled with moments like these, that can only be experienced if you play the game. Which is why while films may have the rule "Show don't tell" I believe videogames have a rule of "Play don't just show".
@coll912
@coll912 4 жыл бұрын
15:30 "She grabs this Machete and she kills David in the most brutal of ways; just hacks him. And even past the point where he's dead and you're seeing this affect now, this- her being on her own. Fighting all of these people, killing, murdering - it's having a toll on her. // And we leave them just as Joel comes in and pulls her off of David and holds her and embraces her like his own daughter and calls her *Baby, Girl* - same phrase he used for his daughter." 16:01 [The game cuts to a few months later, but the weight of Ellie's experience remains] "Where Ellie the whole game has been the optimistic one, the peppy one - she tells jokes, she's the one who calls Joel on his bullshit. She's just got all of this energy and you're coming in and she's quiet. And she's distant. She doesn't respond, you get this interactive prompt over the head you've had the the whole game where you can talk to her and you hit it again: "Ellie?" and hit it again "Ellie?" But you can tell something is really off with her. And that was important for us to show that Ellie has an arc. That Ellie starts as this very innocent, naive person, (16:51) *and you can't survive in this world without it corrupting you in some way - without it having some toll on your personality.* " [Here, the behavior of the NPC you're paired with is once again revealing character]
@MM-hi
@MM-hi 3 жыл бұрын
@Reconsider your position who hurt you
@HiatusFilm
@HiatusFilm 4 жыл бұрын
God, this channel is perfect. Thank you so much for this.
@yahboiiarnold1270
@yahboiiarnold1270 4 жыл бұрын
I've played this game six times and I've watched damn near all your videos twice. I saw the thumbnail and i swear I've never clicked on a video faster
@PaweFiga
@PaweFiga 4 жыл бұрын
I have played TLOU few months after my daughter was born. It was a rollercoaster of emotions for me. Beacuse of that - my new baby, my state of mind those days - i can tell you this is my most beloved game ever. I ve catched and feeled all, and many more, moments described and mentioned in this interview. Thank you for this experience. Forever thankful father.
@zachary4670
@zachary4670 3 жыл бұрын
I’m in my late 20s and played this game after my daughter was born. The scene with Sarah just broke me. I’ve never cried playing a video game before that. Did anyone else notice that the scene where Sarah dies and the scene where you learn Ellie is immune mirror each other? In both cases the camera is low, looking up to a soldier who is about to execute someone, and then the soldier is killed by a last-second headshot from the left.
@vickhs
@vickhs 4 жыл бұрын
Dude, thank you for that little parallel with Children of Men. That was wonderful. Your videos only get better and better.
@alexandramontero2780
@alexandramontero2780 4 жыл бұрын
I hope you do a video for part 2, this was very well done✊🏼
@uncletrick1
@uncletrick1 4 жыл бұрын
My first video game console was an Atari 2600. I got it in the 70s when I was 10. It’s 2020 and I still play video games and let me tell you; of all the games I’ve played, The Last of Us was the absolute greatest.
@archieb1
@archieb1 4 жыл бұрын
I honestly didn't expect this channel to cover The Last Of Us, ever. But you did and it was fucking amazing. I have such respect for screenwriters and cinema, and also for games, that every time I'm watching content related to TLOU, it's gratifying and I learn something new. I have loved your channel since day 1 and today, I kinda regret not having the means to be a patron, so I can watch those extra clips from Neil. Definitely, this is a video that anyone with the interest of making compelling storytelling through games should watch. The Last Of Us is one of the best examples to date.
@patrickmyers2888
@patrickmyers2888 4 жыл бұрын
So cool to see you branch out!
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Pat! I've wanted to talk about video game writing for awhile. This felt like the absolute perfect place to start.
@matthewlin4053
@matthewlin4053 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, this channel keeps going on up. This is amazing
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Matthew!
@MyMerp86
@MyMerp86 4 жыл бұрын
A video from you on “The Last of Us” was the last thing I would have expected today. I had just finished playing TLOU last week, my first video game in years, and I have been in love with Druckmann’s masterpiece ever since. Thank you for treating the medium with as much respect as you do for films and for using TLOU as the titular example.
@richardglady3009
@richardglady3009 4 жыл бұрын
Wonderful video. When I worked at a library 15 years ago, one of the fights I had was convincing librarians that video games had merit because of their storytelling...just like books. Thank you.
@ac14cmpunk25
@ac14cmpunk25 4 жыл бұрын
goodbye good storytelling hello sjw agendas
@Storyograph
@Storyograph 4 жыл бұрын
This is exactly the channel I wanted to see do video game storytelling! Awesome!
@howtonotbasic1383
@howtonotbasic1383 4 жыл бұрын
Now I can't look at Neil dickman the same way or give him the same respect as a game developer.
@KingRey.
@KingRey. 4 жыл бұрын
Did you even play the game?
@mariomazzarella3879
@mariomazzarella3879 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve just done another play through of this game in anticipation of part 2 coming out soon. And I was able to really appreciate even more of the story details. One thing that struck me was that Joel was unable to talk about his former life, and quickly dismissed any conversation about his daughter. But by the end he opens up more and accepts with appreciation the picture Elle gives him of them, one that he didn’t want even from his brother earlier. But also, by the last scene he’s so comfortable to say Elle and her was alike, and probably could have been friends. Now that’s a journey!
@mk14masterify
@mk14masterify 4 жыл бұрын
a testament to just how good this games story telling was, its the first game to ever make me cry, and is still the only game to make me cry. hell i still get choked up when sarah dies and when joel holds ellie after killing the cannibal.
@nextmessi4249
@nextmessi4249 2 жыл бұрын
It's the Littlefinger of gaming writers
@lastminutesavior
@lastminutesavior 4 жыл бұрын
I've played A LOT of games for the last 25 years of my life. This is MY FAVORITE game EVER. Its story, dialogue and character development are amazing. I've played it some 20 times between the PS3 and the PS4 . Everytime, there's a different piece of dialogue or situation that gets to me. As years go by, I discover different subtext in this situations that I deeply relate to. It's an incredible experience.
@jeffreyboyce5048
@jeffreyboyce5048 4 жыл бұрын
I've played it many times ready for part 2 💯💯💯
@lindanibucwa1016
@lindanibucwa1016 4 жыл бұрын
A lot of readers love to say that one of the best things about books is coming back to them years later and seeing how the changes in you changes the book. Last of Us is one of those games that definitely gives the same experience.
@lastminutesavior
@lastminutesavior 4 жыл бұрын
@@lindanibucwa1016 Exactly! 😁👍
@robchuk4136
@robchuk4136 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing that Neil Druckman took time out to do this. He's the coolest. (Michael's awesome too) Crazy good video. As someome who loves story-based games, I would love to see more on videogame screenplays like Telltale's The Walking Dead, God of War, Life is Strange, Mass Effect, Heavy Rain, the Batman Arkham series, and Red Dead Redemption, to name a few. On the power of "emotion through gameplay" I've never experienced a better example than in the indie title "Brothers: A Tale of Two Sons." The game has no dialogue, but a clever mechanic where you control each brother with both joysticks the entire game, through thick and thin. You get so used to it that *spoilers* when one of them dies, and you can't move that stick anymore, it literally feels like a part of you is gone. Couldn't believe I was in tears by the time the credits rolled.
@zazomy8629
@zazomy8629 4 жыл бұрын
I bet you Neil wasn't the only one who wrote TLOU
@blabla1624
@blabla1624 4 жыл бұрын
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_of_Us he was actually
@Olimar530
@Olimar530 4 жыл бұрын
Bruce Stanley and other veteran developers helped him and kept a leash on him. the old guard is gone now and he is really all that remains, hence the horrendous self parody that is The last of us 2.
@scorniro8182
@scorniro8182 4 жыл бұрын
​@@Olimar530 Where is your source? You are literally just a guy making assumptions that are most likely false. So stop talking crap.
@nicolasmorales5955
@nicolasmorales5955 4 жыл бұрын
@@scorniro8182 the last of us 2 Is your source lol.
@darthslinger1129
@darthslinger1129 3 жыл бұрын
@@nicolasmorales5955 your stupidity and lack of research is your real source.LOL
@TheSuperNats
@TheSuperNats 4 жыл бұрын
My baby loves your voice! I love your content! This is perfect for feeding time.
@dannybrenes
@dannybrenes 4 жыл бұрын
TLOU is one of the most meaningful narrative experiences of my life, and Neil Druckmann is a personal hero of mine. He’s the antithesis of most video game creators out there. While others focus on convoluted storytelling, numbing action and sexualization of female characters, with Neil (and Naughty Dog overall) you get tight narrative structures, emotional investment and characters you actually care about. I’ve been feeling pretty depressed over the last few weeks with Death Stranding’s awful story. This video is like a breath of fresh air in comparison. Thank you, Michael. I’ve been meaning to subscribe to your Patreon. This time I’m doing it for sure.
@eriuehr
@eriuehr Жыл бұрын
Just finished playing TLOU 2 and came to KZfaq to study the series' writing and storytelling. This is so far the best teaching video I've found. Thanks a lot for providing content directly from the series' writer; it's very useful for those who are seeking to learn from KZfaq videos!
@Petilombe
@Petilombe 4 жыл бұрын
Didn't even notice that this video is 22 min long until like 19min, man gotta love this channel
@pastarina
@pastarina 4 жыл бұрын
Came back here from TLOU2, and the amount of respect just isn't the same anymore
@KingRey.
@KingRey. 4 жыл бұрын
Sucks for you then...
@pastarina
@pastarina 4 жыл бұрын
@@KingRey. didnt say if the amount increased or decreased bud, but nice of you to assume too 😌
@pulpficti
@pulpficti 3 жыл бұрын
On the contrary my respect skyrocketed. Killing of a major character like this takes skill and confidence
@pastarina
@pastarina 3 жыл бұрын
@@pulpficti didnt say if the amount increased or decreased bud, but nice of you to assume too 😌 (2)
@pulpficti
@pulpficti 3 жыл бұрын
@@pastarina respect isn't the same anymore implies it's less. Otherwise you would phrase it different, because no one says it that way. At least have fucking balls and stand your ground instead of weaseling yourself out
@chetwalker7986
@chetwalker7986 4 жыл бұрын
I thought Part II was brilliant! I kept thinking about this video while playing and realizing how smart the narrative choices were. Such a shame it didn't work for some people!
@houidimohamedamin4747
@houidimohamedamin4747 4 жыл бұрын
It only worked for those who think torture porn is actually deep and profound.
@Zhung36
@Zhung36 4 жыл бұрын
still, seeing that so much people (as the general public) do not like the game means that there are some problems on the writing/gameplay mechanics itselves
@MKADK
@MKADK 4 жыл бұрын
Many people don't like it beacause the story was a mess and the characters were unlikable.
@VeganCheeseburger
@VeganCheeseburger 4 жыл бұрын
I've been playing video games for 30 years. TLoU is my favorite of all time. The characters felt real and the story stuck with me for a long time. Great video.
@RED01SEA
@RED01SEA 4 жыл бұрын
i am from the future , you will not believe what just happened !!!!
@810Lara810
@810Lara810 4 жыл бұрын
Im from the future, yes I can.
@thesplashcy
@thesplashcy Жыл бұрын
I am from the past. Stranded in the present. How do I get to the future?
@boobascooba4821
@boobascooba4821 Жыл бұрын
@@thesplashcy you wait.
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