The Last TRUE F1 Sim

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2 жыл бұрын

Grand Prix 4 was released 21st June 2002 - exactly 20 years to the day - and it shook up the world of virtual racing simulators.
We enjoy the current Formula 1 games by EA Sports and Codemasters, plus we're eagerly anticipating F1 Manager 2022 and the current season update for F1 Mobile Racing. But, here's why Geoff Crammond's Grand Prix 4 was the last true F1 simulator.
An official representation of the 2001 season - dominated by Michael Schumacher and Ferrari - the PC-only title (although an Xbox conversion was rumoured) featured dynamic weather with a drying line, heat haze, fully controllable pitstops and track marshals that pushed your car out of harms way. All features that would either match or surpass contemporary racing titles to this day
Sadly, parent company Infogrames shut down developer MicroProse soon after the platform's release, despite it being a critical success. Planned patched never materialised, and some game-breaking bugs obviously remain to this day.
Will there be an official F1-licenced simulator like this again? We certainly hope so!
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@pauloblanco9259
@pauloblanco9259 2 жыл бұрын
I'm part of the modding community and it's great to see tributes such as these to GP4 even to this day
@mccririck01
@mccririck01 2 жыл бұрын
Can you download it for free online? What sort of PC do you need and would a Logitech G920 wheel and pedals work with it?
@h3llr4iser1
@h3llr4iser1 2 жыл бұрын
@@mccririck01 I've managed to make a G920 work with it, and to be honest it's quite a good experience, in no way inferior to most modern games. It can be a bit tricky to configure as the game has no idea what it is dealing with and sees it as multiple "joysticks", but once you've calibrated everything, it does work indeed.
@truehunger108
@truehunger108 2 жыл бұрын
You have my utmost respect, cuz working with the game, especially modding is an absolute b****.
@mcbeaulieu
@mcbeaulieu Жыл бұрын
I can't believe how we managed to take an already great game into what it currently is. It's just a shame I haven't been able to put my hands on a PC after mine blew 7 years ago. That might happen at some point, I'm craving to make the current Honda engine sound 😅
@truehunger108
@truehunger108 9 ай бұрын
DROP PART 3 OF THE MODDING VIDEO PRBLANCO!!!
@ClaudioBernasconi
@ClaudioBernasconi 2 жыл бұрын
The Grand Prix series was what it all started. I remember racing with my dad as a 5-year old using a Microsoft Widewinder Force Feedback Wheel. Great memories!
@bendaaa69
@bendaaa69 2 жыл бұрын
force feedback in 2002
@Ash_18037
@Ash_18037 2 жыл бұрын
Ahhh yes, the Widewinder, I remember it well ;)
@bestopinion9257
@bestopinion9257 11 ай бұрын
That drying racing line is so immersive. Why new sims do not implement it is beyond me.
@1nnu3ndo
@1nnu3ndo 2 жыл бұрын
So many amazing independent teams back then with history and character. McLaren, Benetton, Jordan, Arrows, Sauber, Prost, Minardi...
@TraxionGG
@TraxionGG 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, was an amazing era!
@TheManos1212
@TheManos1212 2 жыл бұрын
I have done multiple seasons by picking up every driver and doing hot-seat racing. Its the most fun I have in an F1 game ever. Started doing seasons from F1 2000 100% races and now I am at F1 2012. GP4 is truly the best experience there is. Codemasters does not come even near it for me.
@danrice2797
@danrice2797 2 жыл бұрын
Where do you download it from boss? 🙏🏻
@zikalokof1challenge414
@zikalokof1challenge414 2 жыл бұрын
Although I do think that the modern F1 series slaps in terms of immersion and career mode, GP4 has probably the best AI I've ever seen: going defensively (in some parts of certain tracks), trying to go for a gap, making mistakes (something Codemasters only managed to do in F1 2020), and having crashes from time to time. Its a shame SC wasnt included on this game, but my God, that AI was something out of the box, kudos for Geoff and his bois for the work
@ericb3593
@ericb3593 2 жыл бұрын
I've been a part of the GP4 community since 2005 and I've never stopped playing/modding the game. I've driven most of the sims out there, but GP4 has stood on top ever since release. When you get the hang of how to mod the game, it's the best experience you can get. Realistic dynamic weather, accurate tracks that Codemasters still can't match, an convincing AI that attacks, defend their position and makes mistakes. And my favorite feature, the broadcast mode. Doing championships without choosing a driver and let the AI battle it out for the title while the game controls the cameras and switching through incidents. The slogan was "Nothing gets Closer". Damn right!
@chillthrill4798
@chillthrill4798 2 жыл бұрын
I would love how to learn how to get my hands on it
@papajohn3976
@papajohn3976 Жыл бұрын
I also used to watch championships in director's cut mode without choosing a driver. But i soon noticed that they made a mistake in minardi drivers performance. They assigned yoongs performance to alonso and vice versa (evident also by the wrong car numbers). A driver editor was used to correct it... and high fidelity f1 racing ensued!
@samsea0489
@samsea0489 Ай бұрын
If the broadcast mode is your favourite feature then l recommend that you go to a channel called GP4OC
@painterguylincs
@painterguylincs Жыл бұрын
What I loved about GP4 was the level of detail in the car setup. So many things could be minutely adjusted and it all made a difference: Wing angles, ride heights, springs, packers, dampers, bump rubbers, anti-rollbars, diffs, gear ratios, brake balance, you name it... front and rear, left and right, all independently variable to a very fine degree and best of all, you could look at data logs to see precisely what effect your adjustments had on every part of the track. This ability elevated GP4 above all other racing games to the level of a genuine sim.
@TraxionGG
@TraxionGG Жыл бұрын
It's these little details which really make a game so much more special
@tedpal5098
@tedpal5098 2 жыл бұрын
No F1 game has ever come close to the AI in GP4. If you watched replays in action, it truly looks like a real race with real drivers. The AI would attack you everywhere. They see an opening and go for it. With an editor, you could customize each individual driver within a tenth of each other. It's a crime Geoff could never build on this sim with all the advancements that came after GP4 was gone. I believe we were denied of something truly, truly amazing. Long Live GP4☝🏾🏁
@zikalokof1challenge414
@zikalokof1challenge414 2 жыл бұрын
I also think the AI could go defensively in some parts of some tracks, it was really a masterpiece of an AI
@ssssssss6889
@ssssssss6889 2 ай бұрын
Back in the days , sometimes , i was choosing no driver at all and just watch the race!
@Verndroid
@Verndroid 2 жыл бұрын
GP2. By far the sim that I have spent the most time on . It was absolutely epic for its time :)
@boblikepie
@boblikepie 2 жыл бұрын
Wish more games went down this path. Still remember the first mechanical failure I had and missing out on all of P1 after having an engine failure on my first flying lap
@FlatOut75
@FlatOut75 Жыл бұрын
Put Geoff Crammond in charge of CodeMasters and you will see the F1xxxx franchise go flying. What he did with the GPx franchise was legendary even to this day. I’ve been playing the GP series since World Circuit and will carry on doing it as long as my PC supports it..
@scienzeaq8135
@scienzeaq8135 11 ай бұрын
If he is allowed to change the game according to what would be his vision of a racing game, chances are instead that the subsequent title would lose commercial appeal for the wider audience.
@gretsky3463
@gretsky3463 2 жыл бұрын
I’m shocked by how good the physics look for how old this is
@marian9993
@marian9993 Жыл бұрын
🤣😂 physics was arcadish...it ws far from real simualtion
@BRunzilian
@BRunzilian 2 жыл бұрын
Still the king. I remember my dad pre-ordering it, receiving to play his Pentium 3 700mhz with a VooDoo 3 3000. Great memories!
@DanielTheFreak
@DanielTheFreak 2 жыл бұрын
F1 Challenge 99-02 should be mentioned too! It came out in 2003 and also has to this day a very active modding community as the physics of this game come very close to GP4, it's also much easier to run on modern systems and newer peripherals. There even is a mod which includes every single F1 season from 1950 until today!
@juliorolandi6694
@juliorolandi6694 2 жыл бұрын
Please do elaborate about this mod!!!
@barkor4083
@barkor4083 2 жыл бұрын
@@juliorolandi6694 The mod is called F1 Challenge VB There's nothing really to elaborate on, because it's exactly what you would expect - you can just select every single season from 1950 all the way to the present times, with all circuits, teams and drivers included
@juliorolandi6694
@juliorolandi6694 2 жыл бұрын
@@barkor4083 thank you! I might try and set this up to play tomorrow afternoon, would love to have a classics weekend
@zikalokof1challenge414
@zikalokof1challenge414 2 жыл бұрын
@@juliorolandi6694 Well, the mod itself has up to 30 GB of arquives, so good luck on that
@JNST2023
@JNST2023 Жыл бұрын
@@zikalokof1challenge414 That's not that much, my GP4 install with mods and tracks takes up to 150GB and counting :D
@h3llr4iser1
@h3llr4iser1 2 жыл бұрын
Good video, but you glossed over the one thing that absolutely makes GP4 to be STILL head and shoulders above any F1 game (and in certain regards, any racing game at a wider level) today: the AI. The computer controlled drivers actually DRIVE around the track in real time during ALL session, rather than be simulacrums of precalculated lap times during FP and qualifying. This has been the case since the very first Grand Prix. They are subjected to the same physics as the player's car - you'll never get the weird situation you get, for example, in the CM F1 games where you're 1 second faster than the AI in one sector and 1 second slower in another, or tracks where the AI is just too fast or too slow. More importantly, during the race itself the AI have proper racecraft - they battle for position effectively, cover the inside line, back out of attempts if a crash is imminent and in general, the cars move on the track and in the pitlane in an extremely realistic, physics bound way; None of the jerkiness of the more modern games is present (check the CM F1 series pitstops and the cars "warping" to their pitboxes...). Just watching a completely AI race in GP4 (another interesting thing that could be done...launch a race with no players) will leave modern gamers jaws on the floor due to the effectiveness of the AI. FInally, the GP series was actually much more accessible than today's games. Codemaster's F1 series is more or less impossible to play with a keyboard and very hard to play precisely with a pad. All the GP games were perfectly enjoyable even with just a keyboard - you would not set any hotlap leaderboards on fire, but you'd be able to enjoy yourself.
@lonekyoko
@lonekyoko 2 жыл бұрын
´´Finally, the GP series was actually much more accessible than today's games. Codemaster's F1 series is more or less impossible to play with a keyboard and very hard to play precisely with a pad. All the GP games were perfectly enjoyable even with just a keyboard - you would not set any hotlap leaderboards on fire, but you'd be able to enjoy yourself. ´´ My man i agree with everything you said but that, CM F1 is in fact really acessible even with keyboard, some of my friends manage to drive against 100 (105 in some tracks) AI with keyboard and medium TC and no other assists than these. I know that you have a lot of limitations playing with a keyboard BUT THATS EXPECTED dude, you cant just be on the top of a leaderbord with keyboard, it doesnt work like that, even if its a (bad) simcade its not a ´´need for speed underground´´ kinda game lmao. You cant expect to drive toptier racing line with PRO level pace with keyboard, and its okay, you arent expected to be a pro F1 gamer with keyboard anyways. People who wants to be truly competitive on multiplayer or want to master the game just arent suposed to do it with a keyboard, and theres no problem with that at all.
@lonekyoko
@lonekyoko 2 жыл бұрын
otherwise why do you think theres no pro league for keyboard players? even controller players arent that much capitalized on that scenario and this is not really ´´wrong´´ to do so.
@PinkPlume
@PinkPlume 2 жыл бұрын
Your comment along with the video has sparked my interest in downloading GP4
@paulanstey4577
@paulanstey4577 2 жыл бұрын
Played all of Geoff Crammond's titles over the years going on to othe sims like rfactor 1 and 2, AC and many more. It's crazy to see how the graphics have improved over the years. GP4 stood out at the time and by the looks of it in this video it still does to an extent. I have all of Crammond's titles in my big box PC game collection. I loved the manuals that came with it. They were super detailed . Shame the Internet ruined the visceral experience of buying and owning computer games. Somethings improve (graphics) whilst imo others don't (steam, games AI) :)
@baadlyrics8705
@baadlyrics8705 2 жыл бұрын
But lets bu honest, without the internet most of us wouldnt have heard of this game and many other legendary games from back in the days. And definitely not had an chance to play them, since obv those games wouldnt be produced today, and it would be harder and harder to get a copy, until it eventually becomes impossible.. But in todays times those games will never be lost and will be playable for as long as humans will live and the internet wont completely go down, which seems impossible since its a decentrelized network. Essentially im just happy i can just download this game, or richard burn rally for example right now, for free even and enjoy it.
@Ash_18037
@Ash_18037 2 жыл бұрын
@@baadlyrics8705 But no one is saying the internet is all bad. Simply that it is unarguable that digital distribution has destroyed forever the experience of purchasing a physical box copy of new game. These boxes were built to last and packed with often 100 page+ manual that was more like a love letter to the games subject then a simple how to play. However if you didn't experience that at the time it's understandable you just don't get it.
@caprirosso3
@caprirosso3 Жыл бұрын
@@Ash_18037 I agree. I learned how to sim race via the manual for GP2. It was hugely exciting at the time.
@Pioneero
@Pioneero 2 жыл бұрын
As others have already mentioned, F1 Challenge 99-02 would be a serious contender. It lacked things like rain reflections (although its console sibling did include that, along with flag marshals, but ugly driver/pitcrew faces), but content-wise was bigger and its modding capabilities were incredible.
@Gabrielxdxd4
@Gabrielxdxd4 2 жыл бұрын
F1 Challenge 99-02, released in 2003: Am I joke to u?
@nickypoundtown9568
@nickypoundtown9568 Жыл бұрын
Correct, I remember buying GP4 then realised it wasn't easily moddable at the time and F1C being the most supported game out there
@Druze_Tito
@Druze_Tito 5 ай бұрын
@@mattiapresti7295 wrong. Image Space Incorporated (ISI) build the original physics engine isiMotor and later isiMotor2. The very first game to use their engine was Sports Car GT. Probably the best racing game ever made. Other companies licensed their engine in many occasions, until ISI released rFactor.
@parathoxicz1720
@parathoxicz1720 5 ай бұрын
No chance to gp4
@MaximoSirianidelCarril
@MaximoSirianidelCarril 5 ай бұрын
@@parathoxicz1720 They are both good. I think physics are better in F1C, while graphics are better in GP4. Damage is better in Gp4 while sounds are better in F1C. I think GP4 is barely better because of the track marshalls when you crash or when you win a race
@stenovitz
@stenovitz 2 ай бұрын
Did alot of LFRS competition in Grand Prix 2. Did alot of offline modding racing in Grand Prix 3 Bought Grand Prix 4 on release date in Denmark, but was just so annoyed about the missing tyre grip modelling that I didn't look back when F1C99-02 arrived...that is, just until 4 years ago where I after a month of trying got Grand Prix 2 working on my T300RS-GT...wow, what a thrill.
@randomdude8877
@randomdude8877 2 жыл бұрын
I remember the good old days when i played the hell out of grand prix 2 and 3.
@blazi2293
@blazi2293 2 жыл бұрын
I think the Codemasters formula (no pun intended) can be considered as "F1 sim", when talking about F1 as a sport. It still has the cars, the tracks (although not always accurate), the rules, and you can live you own career. It is somewhat immersive. The codies F1 games looks like they are made for people who just enjoy the show rather than sim enthusiasts, and it makes sense since Formula 1 is very popular, it should be easy for everyone to pick The driving experience is nowhere near as good as a proper sim, it just does the job for what it has been designed for Now I just wish there was a way to have F1 rules on Assetto Corsa, having a blast driving the RSS mods
@RaceSimCentral
@RaceSimCentral 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's a solid take. A bad sim is still a sim (not that codes sims are bad - just not the groundbreaking or to be remembered as the best of their era).
@gabrielesicuro4882
@gabrielesicuro4882 2 жыл бұрын
With that automated pit driving and limited on board settings, I would not call it a simulation... plus the new "supercars" need to be unlocked is typical of normal racing games... not simulations
@RaceSimCentral
@RaceSimCentral 2 жыл бұрын
@@gabrielesicuro4882 The addition of those does not remove the option to not use them. You don't have to drive the supercars, you don't have to use auto pitting. Or are you suggesting rFactor 2 isn't a sim because it has optional driver aids? Or AMS2? Or iRacing? :)
@gabrielesicuro4882
@gabrielesicuro4882 2 жыл бұрын
@@RaceSimCentral "Manual pitting" is still automated. After you steer the game takes control. It's a quick time event basically. Many options that are available on various sims such as diff settings are not available. When I play a sim I can race any piece of content I own without waiting for any race (this is probably the biggest difference) Last but not least, CM F1 setups are always on extreme values, you have maximum on minimum values to have the best setup. What more do you want? The ego engine is an outdated engine that was never meant to do sim racing
@gabrielesicuro4882
@gabrielesicuro4882 2 жыл бұрын
I meant *on board settings. Like you can't do the things you would expect from a real F1 simulation
@RJW14
@RJW14 2 жыл бұрын
I played GP 2 and 3 for a lot of time. GP2 was the game me and my friends had when we were in grade school. Some of us had a wheel, others had a keyboard, and we were just trying to get the fastest car on the old Hockenheim circuit. It was great.
@neiljacks777
@neiljacks777 Жыл бұрын
Great to see this tribute, 20+ years ago my two best friends and I used to do full seasons in hotseat mode on GP3 then GP4. The memories, we would show up at my mates house with our top secret tinkered setups on floppy disk, pay an entry fee for each gp and go head to head. It was a great way to play the game, lots of laughs and the season champion would get the entry fee kitty. I'll have to get a copy now and see how it performs on my Ryzen system, a dam sight better than the old AMD K6 I used to run it on I'd say.
@JNST2023
@JNST2023 2 жыл бұрын
The best ever ! Still modded to this day and sporting features current games don't even have, like having different weather on different parts of the track and multiple types of failure while racing (transmission, brakes, gearbox, etc...)
@syncshot3677
@syncshot3677 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@TraxionGG
@TraxionGG 2 жыл бұрын
Ahead of now, let alone it's time!
@andygreener3130
@andygreener3130 2 жыл бұрын
I actually adored the use of A and Z along with on keyboard to drive. It sort of stuck you to the racing line if you were going fast enough (you could still easily understeer etc) so you felt like you were on the limit and had to hunt for that little bit extra to gain an advantage. I remember it being something that would feel good in TOCA too.
@h3llr4iser1
@h3llr4iser1 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that was the "keyboard assistance", it was present since the very first Grand Prix game and it was the one thing that made the Grand Prix series the only "serious" racing game that couple be effectively enjoyed without specialized hardware, just a keyboard. The downside of it was that it was often misunderstood by players, who claimed the game was bad because it was "on rails" and preferred other inferior games (such as the bad, bad, bad F1 series by Psygnosis).
@fongugp4718
@fongugp4718 2 жыл бұрын
Happy Birthday GP4, thanks for the great video. 😀
@Nekudza
@Nekudza 2 жыл бұрын
So much time spent in all 4 GP series games. And what is amazing to me even today - tiny car setup changes worked and felt right when played on keyboard in GP2. Better than in modern Codemasters game with the wheel. Telemetry tool also was really cool
@Quaker763
@Quaker763 6 ай бұрын
The fact that Crammond refused when asked if he would release the GP4 source code when the game is still played and modded is honestly insane
@nvstewart
@nvstewart 6 ай бұрын
I used to play Grand Prix 1 on an Amiga 1200. Grand Prix 2 was only going to be released on the PC and was the sole reason why I got a PC. In fact, because of Grand Prix 2, it is the reason why I am still on PC to this day.
@Formulera
@Formulera 2 жыл бұрын
I don't remember much playing GP4 but god damn, I spent more time playing GP2 with my uncle who got me into F1 than I've played any Codemasters F1 game. Still love the 1994 Footwork because of that game.
@thomridgeway1438
@thomridgeway1438 7 ай бұрын
Don't forget Geoff made Stunt Car Racer .. the most fun you could ever have on an Amiga 500.
@teku0000
@teku0000 Жыл бұрын
I first played GP4 back in 2018 or so, on my crappy laptop, I still enjoyed every last bit of it, except the part where I had to fight the installment process and game itself but in the end I got it working. It is one of my favourite F1 racing games of all time now, I am a new fan of the game, but I cant help but love it so much more especially with all the mods and such available, and I had no controller or steering wheel to speak of back then and the assists still made it fun and engaging to just focus in racing in the game. I love Grand Prix franchise so much.
@syncshot3677
@syncshot3677 2 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking about this game today! I'd love to play it again, but no idea how....
@wrexhammusic
@wrexhammusic 4 ай бұрын
I had this game back in the day and it was MIND BENDING how realistic it was to the actual sport. The last (and best) Formula 1 racing sim to date.
@arlindosilva2557
@arlindosilva2557 2 жыл бұрын
I still play GP4. I know the graphics and sounds are not in the same level of Automobilista or other Sims, but honestly GP4 still has the best simulation experience. Just one correction: official mod 2022 is not released yet. There's just 3 cars launched (Mercedes, Red Bull and Aston Martin) and another 2 in progress (Ferrari and McLaren). It was released a 2022 mod with a spec car, but quite different from official cars.
@RJW14
@RJW14 2 жыл бұрын
The one thing that was in GP3, car failures were pre-determined. If you were to get a suspension failure on lap 37 of the race, you could load a 20 lap older save and drive like a granny, and still have that suspension failure.
@pepeventura9002
@pepeventura9002 9 ай бұрын
For me this is the best F1experience even to this day. It's impressive how this game convices you that bot called Schumacher is really Schumacher!
@MrRaphaelLippi
@MrRaphaelLippi 2 жыл бұрын
Mercedes W12 in Iracing is the closest to a F1 sim you can get today.
@darrentimmis6423
@darrentimmis6423 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome memories playing this sim. Loved everyone of the formula 1 gp games. But 4 has a special place as it is the true last F1 sim....
@mickeynismocat
@mickeynismocat 2 жыл бұрын
Spent hours on that series of F1 games, what memories!!
@ThomasfromGreece
@ThomasfromGreece 2 жыл бұрын
F1 Challenge is the last true sim, no hate to GP4 though.
@markboersma8694
@markboersma8694 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, but the ea tracks are no where near the real tracks in some instances. Making it very hard to jump in and just do some races. But it still is a very good game and very challenging! Played it a lot until it wouldn't accept my direct drive wheel after I upgraded from the t300
@danielsanchez648
@danielsanchez648 29 күн бұрын
ehh, no
@macvandermerwe6222
@macvandermerwe6222 2 ай бұрын
This was my 1st game ever. Not racing game. GAME. This brings back so many memories. Really wish they were still around to this day.
@pocketdynamo5787
@pocketdynamo5787 2 жыл бұрын
I played GP2 and GP3 a lot back in the day. Really enjoyed them a lot. Never heard of GP4, funnily enough. I'm gonna look if I can find a copy of it...
@DalozsanTheFox
@DalozsanTheFox 2 жыл бұрын
F1 challenge 99-02 >>
@williamwilson4705
@williamwilson4705 2 жыл бұрын
F1C’s individually modelled car physics allied with GP4’s AI and, weather and track modelling would smash any other sim, even today.
@ArmySigs
@ArmySigs 5 ай бұрын
My friends and I used to race in real-time when each GP was on TV, using hot seat of course, to race on the same tracks alongside the actual race. Nutters lol.
@victim2077
@victim2077 2 жыл бұрын
GP4 is NOT the last F1 sim - year later Image Space (you know the rFactor guys) made F1 Challenge 99-02 the last F1 full sim.
@fernandoapikachu2427
@fernandoapikachu2427 5 ай бұрын
It’s kinda weird and sad how both GP4 and NR2003 are beloved Sims with strong communities today, but back in the day, weren’t in the spot light like the console games at the time
@pjotrpirhagen
@pjotrpirhagen 2 ай бұрын
Played GP2, played GP4, but actually loved GP3 the most. I had a little dislike of the shiny graphics in GP4. I was amazed every time how superior the simulation was compared to the other F1 games though. Good memories! Lots of playing time!
@GarkKahn
@GarkKahn 2 жыл бұрын
F1 challenge 99-02 is great too
@mczaga
@mczaga 2 жыл бұрын
When i watch it i remembered F1 97 game on Ps1 i can try this game on my pc too.Thank you for creating this video.
@I-am-Josh
@I-am-Josh 2 жыл бұрын
F1 Challenge '99-'02 was the last one, not GP4.
@pooch7245
@pooch7245 2 жыл бұрын
I have not watched a ton of F1 (watched some Formula E) or played any of F1 games, but as a NASCAR fan this reminds me so much of NR2003.
@mrpalaces
@mrpalaces 2 жыл бұрын
I played this game a lot, because it was very well optimized for olaying on the keyboard, allowing you to practice until reaching competitive times, and battling it out with the field on a clean way. Between this, and what others have said about the drivers AI, must be why I simply can't get myself to enjoy the Codemasters series. I have a much harder time controlling the car, so I can't battle or move trough traffic in a clean, fun way
@markcampbell2364
@markcampbell2364 3 ай бұрын
Hey mate just an update, You can play this game with different wheel pedal setups and still have force feedback by using joystick gremlin
@edmundscycles1
@edmundscycles1 2 жыл бұрын
I love that old fia intro ......I want it back .
@bertplatini2249
@bertplatini2249 Жыл бұрын
I have made in the past a mod with real commentary from olaf mol (iam dutch). Crashing and sound with real-time commentary. What a blast! Even i changes the replay cams an car cameras. And all the sounds in and outside the cars.. a beautiful memory..
@TraxionGG
@TraxionGG Жыл бұрын
That sounds awesome Bert!
@timothymeek24
@timothymeek24 2 жыл бұрын
spent months modding GP4 those were memories sadly stop playing them back 2012
@Blackout201_
@Blackout201_ Жыл бұрын
f1 challenge 99-02 released a year later and shared a lot of features with GP4 as far as I can tell
@alphabetaxenonzzzcat
@alphabetaxenonzzzcat 2 жыл бұрын
Geoff Grammond did amazing work this franchise of games. I wish he was still making these games.
@JorgeAraujo97
@JorgeAraujo97 2 жыл бұрын
GP4 is great, but F1 Career Challenge was released a year later and it's not a slouch in the physics. Presentation and other stuff, GP4 beats it hands down. And if we are talking about non-official F1 game, rF2 has the best classic F1 cars in any game. The 1991 mod by ASR Formula is just awesome.
@imbad6730
@imbad6730 2 жыл бұрын
Did revs predict the halo 😂
@DovahKanye
@DovahKanye 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone know where I can get a digital copy of this? My PC no longer has a DVD drive, I haven't played this since I was a kid. I also never had a wheel back then, so it would be good to test it out with modern mods and equipment.
@DiegoNoriegaOggo87
@DiegoNoriegaOggo87 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic tribute video! As a member of the GPx community since well before GP4, I tried different sims through the years and always found myself going back to GP4, even today. Long live King GP4! Long live King Crammond! 😎
@TraxionGG
@TraxionGG 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@zachdoran10
@zachdoran10 2 жыл бұрын
oh the things id do for a new F1 sim, we deserve it
@F1_Gianni_96
@F1_Gianni_96 2 жыл бұрын
I played Grand prix 4 almost everyday when it released I miss it so much 😪
@arthurbarette4861
@arthurbarette4861 2 жыл бұрын
The best, my first racing sim memories and still the best to this day. I still have the box, I just can't figure out a way of making it work on windows 10...
@TraxionGG
@TraxionGG 2 жыл бұрын
I hope you manage!
@xboxtest4226
@xboxtest4226 2 жыл бұрын
I just set it up the other day with the help of some KZfaq Videos - Go Check Them Out!
@arthurbarette4861
@arthurbarette4861 2 жыл бұрын
@@xboxtest4226 yeah It worked !! 🤩 the only annoying part is the graphics note files disppeared and i cant put it in full screen :( but its so coool
@sacstudiosargentina
@sacstudiosargentina 2 жыл бұрын
Gp4 has the best f1 experience. I play it every day without mods but gpxpatch. The quantity of information and sensations that the game transmite to the steering wheel and pedals are AWESOME!!! Thanks Geoff Cramond. (He developed the core in assembler)
@mynameisroman
@mynameisroman 4 ай бұрын
started racing games with f1gp. played five full seasons in real time in that game. i won a competition in GP2. after gp4 i pretty much left racing games. none ever came close to that feeling... don't know if i should try iRacing :-)
@SecurityEscort
@SecurityEscort 4 ай бұрын
I miss Grand Prix 3 ... my all time favourite F1 Sim!
@detonator2112
@detonator2112 10 ай бұрын
This is a legendary game and I played it hundreds of hours in my youth. Nostalgia is great but Assetto Corsa with something like ASR F1s mod has come a looong way and is on completely different level. It's not even comparable. But sure, it's not an official game and the Codemasters F1 games are mostly just well presented and pretty arcade games with bad force feedback. rf2, iRacing and Automobilista 2 have pretty good F1 stuff too. But yeah, why don't they make something like this again by today's standards? It was a remarkable game.
@Racer63.
@Racer63. Жыл бұрын
Nothing comes close to GP4 in terms of realism. I wish Mr Crammond could make GP5.
@MinosDaedalus
@MinosDaedalus Жыл бұрын
Never got this game stable on my PC so I would always go back to GP3 with the season addon.
@edmundscycles1
@edmundscycles1 2 жыл бұрын
Did you know mucroprose is back ? they have an F1 sim lined up too!
@jebediahkerman6819
@jebediahkerman6819 2 жыл бұрын
is there a place where i can get the game? i have it on DVD, but i cant get it to run what so ever on my pc
@boilinghippo4468
@boilinghippo4468 Жыл бұрын
Maybe i should buy this game - better than the Codemasters games anyway. So is there any chance of editing the starting-grid during a custom race or a TV Mod race? I never played it before so i dont know If you re able to build your own starting grid Like in the F1 Games of sony ? I know there is the Editor Patch 3.5 which inkludes the car performance and so on. Maybe its inkluded there? 😅 Would be nice if you 've got some information about that 🤷
@ZakRC_
@ZakRC_ 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! I’m still using Grand Prix 4 to make KZfaq videos, my Formula A championship is created entirely on this game, and it’s starting this Sunday!
@TraxionGG
@TraxionGG 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I will need to check it out :)
@ZakRC_
@ZakRC_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@TraxionGG 26th of June, be there!
@syncshot3677
@syncshot3677 2 жыл бұрын
@@ZakRC_ I'll be there!
@asterousia
@asterousia 2 жыл бұрын
where i can find a 2022 mode for gp4 like the one mentioned in the video?????
@AdamWebb1982
@AdamWebb1982 5 ай бұрын
I entered the pits in 2002 and im still waiting to be released.
@scorch527
@scorch527 2 жыл бұрын
I think the Mercedes F1 in iRacing is the best way to simulate driving an F1 car at the moment, but it is online only and not like a game fully focused on F1.
@ajrichar0
@ajrichar0 2 жыл бұрын
Has the modding community produced an accurate and full simulation of the 2009 F1 season? If so, which sim have they used? (GP4, AC etc) Are there links to videos on KZfaq? I'm a Toyota F1 fan (yes, I know, you don't have to say) and the only 2009 F1 game I'm aware of is the PSP game which was awful. I was hoping there'd be a superior and accurate recreation of the 2009 season, even if only for people to drive the Brawn. Seeing this GP4 video and only now realising there's an active community keeping it going has made me wonder.
@MatthewBluefox
@MatthewBluefox Жыл бұрын
I remember editing the driver and constructor names and just watching the entire race with the AI drivers from TV camera purrspective and just commentating. :)
@robadzso
@robadzso Жыл бұрын
Purrspective 😂🎉 that was just gold. I see where you're coming from. 🎉
@MatthewBluefox
@MatthewBluefox Жыл бұрын
@@robadzso Thankies. :)
@mondodimotori
@mondodimotori 6 ай бұрын
F1 Challenge '99-'02 came out the following year.
@almedogjurgji
@almedogjurgji 2 ай бұрын
The Microprose F1 games were and still are the best.
@mrj3217
@mrj3217 2 жыл бұрын
Dave Cam was involved with the Indy car game?
@oldschoolracinggames5729
@oldschoolracinggames5729 Жыл бұрын
the game doesn’t calibrate my pedals in a right way…. any patch?
@catwoe5707
@catwoe5707 Жыл бұрын
How can we get GP4 running on Steam Deck? Any help appreciated, thanks
@pederreite3227
@pederreite3227 2 жыл бұрын
ive tried downloading this on my laptop as an "on the go" racing game, but it says that my class isnt registered when i try to launch the game. Any help please? Haha
@RobbertsTravelGuides
@RobbertsTravelGuides 2 жыл бұрын
back when i was a kid i played this game every time i came from school on my dad's PC together with a microsoft steering wheel. it was truely a grea time to have gamed in. Codemasters just lack the skill and knowledge to be able to make a GP4 game. i just wish that detail of realism
@carlosfandango2419
@carlosfandango2419 2 жыл бұрын
Grand Prix Legends and F1 Challenge 99-02 are far better than GP4 and have remained so thanks to their dedicated communities.
@terenceramroop
@terenceramroop 2 жыл бұрын
I love this game....all I can say is plank wear...where is plank wear in today's games?
@jessiepvlogs8948
@jessiepvlogs8948 Жыл бұрын
Wish we had these for phone so it is playable out and about
@KayoMichiels
@KayoMichiels 2 жыл бұрын
Can you guys also do a video about Grand Prix Legends?
@TraxionGG
@TraxionGG 2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully at some point in the future, that game is another true classic!
@KayoMichiels
@KayoMichiels 2 жыл бұрын
@@TraxionGG Yeah, i'm racing with it in a league. And broadcast my races... It's currently summer break, but i'm gonna participate in the annual Targa Florio we do. And will broadcast it.
@StevenQ74
@StevenQ74 2 жыл бұрын
The 2001 Arrows had a Asiatech(Peugeot) engine, not a Ford
@jwork5680
@jwork5680 Жыл бұрын
How's GP4 compared to F1 challenge?
@zorgxzorgx6543
@zorgxzorgx6543 Жыл бұрын
I played on 2 games and I was able to compare. I always come back to gp4 because it is much more realistic, I assure you.
@jackkeithley4934
@jackkeithley4934 Жыл бұрын
Any game that has ever used the Codemasters engine/physics/look, is never ever going to be considered a Sim or even close to it. Especially when you compare it to ACC, AC, iRacing, rFactor2, RaceRoom, GP4 and the Simbin titled games and others I am missing.
@doctoronishispsychosislab1474
@doctoronishispsychosislab1474 2 жыл бұрын
comparing old shit to new shit is insane. its like saying the gun is better than a bow and arrow.
@chefizzy2238
@chefizzy2238 2 жыл бұрын
"the emersion codemaster and EA strive for today" they definitely don't
@GPRaceF1
@GPRaceF1 Жыл бұрын
Great video, i play GP4 ever day in my channel :)
@TraxionGG
@TraxionGG Жыл бұрын
Thanks, and that’s mega! Will check some videos out 😊
@polakalbi
@polakalbi 2 жыл бұрын
GP4 community 🤝 F1 Challenge 99-02 community
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward 2 жыл бұрын
Now a video on how to get simucubes and Heusinkveld sprints to work on this? 😂
@TraxionGG
@TraxionGG 2 жыл бұрын
Ohhh when are you making it😍😂
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward 2 жыл бұрын
@@TraxionGG I was hoping you would be the ones to do it cos I am dumb 😅
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