There''s no way paramount did not agree to this.

Disney gave Ugly sonic an small chractaer development, they actually did them a favor and now many people love ugly sonic

Yeah that's the main thing that irks me about it too. It'd be one thing if it was done with permission, but Disney is notoriously abusive of copyright law, it feels like it lacks a lot of self-awareness coming from them (not the only thing in this movie to have that problem). It bothers me even more that since he has an actual role in this movie, several people are checking it out ONLY because they heard that. Ugly sonic's appearance is essentially free advertising for this thing, and as far as we can tell it's an unlicensed parody :/

Dale's CG design looks pretty good imo. Certainly better than Chip and the other rangers' spoofed 2D

Yeah

What happened to her?

@@dominicdelligatti Her dad killed her and her mom, then killed himself

@@dominicdelligatti in short her dad murder her

Damn

Yeah she was also ducky.

Truth

I disagree. Whenever I'm reminded that Gargoyles existed, suddenly reams of lore unfold in my my head. In addition to its kickass opening.

Does Gargoyles count?

​@@kennethsatria6607 Gargoyles was one of the best shows of my childhood.

Not at all, I remember most of it through 2000 reruns.

Fuck that

They are going to buy ugly sonic 😱😱😱

@@apairofglasses775 They own 20th century fox, they already technically own him

@@slithra227 The Sonic movie (and presumably the "Ugly Sonic" design) are owned by Paramount.

Begone Bots!

Why are there so many bots?

The film was so boring,except the parts with sonic

@@hinamatsuro1908 I can understand where you're coming from, I probably only enjoyed it because I was with a friend, but it was still a good time for me nonetheless.

I thought it was really good and really wonder why nobody else dosent

Yes, crossovers just became too commercial to be enjoyable. The shock factor is also dying because of the overuse

Don't say stupid things.

@@mirkohoble No.

It also makes you realize man I just want to see these characters in a new movie or tv show instead of just a where’s Waldo in the background like just make a new movie with them

I hate that humour now is just meta. There are no jokes.. its just.. hey look its xxx haha look its xxx.. Honestly, watching it, its not really funny.. because it doesn’t have any real comedy.. its just meta meta meta.

Not as good as Roger Rabbit but still a solid and fun movie in it's own right imo.

3D animation may be cheaper and easier, but traditional animation will always be something truly magical. Roger Rabbit still holds up to this day, some visual glitches aside. This "comeback" (*cashgrab) is just asking to be forgotten.

@@reasyrandom this movie is definitely not a cashgrab-

@@reasyrandom I don't feel it's a crash grab, and I think it went directly to disney+. I know Roger rabbit it's classic for many, but it honestly doesn't feel miles better than this one. Just somewhat better.

@@cozyhome297 It’s a ‘plus sub to Disney plus’ grab

Honestly, I'm in the train of people who think this could have been a Bonkers movie and no one would mind. The whole show is basically about down-on-their-luck toons and he doesn't become a cop until he retires from showbiz.

@@eatatjoes6751 Bonkers is the only character they could have made this about that wouldn't have been interchangable.

@@DoctorPhileasFragg Exactly, but nope, it's Chip and/or Dale.

I had the exact same thought about Bonkers while watching this movie actually! Funny I wasn't the only one thinking this.

I heard some say that Oswald would've been a way better villain. He's old, he's been thrown out, abandoned and forgotten by Disney. Oswald making reboots would make more sense than suddenly tossing in Peter Pan as the villain just because of a voice actor.

they got lucky, SEGA is so laidback the games are falling apart again. Disney will have thorns in its ass if it dared to touch Mario.

@@YWNBAW69 I swear, Disney has been a bully for quite a while now. The difference between WB and Disney is that at least WB is very obvious while Disney pretends that its your friend.

I kind of want Disney to touch Mario so Nintendo can sue Disney out of existence. Is that a bad thing?

@@robbyrhodes4572 Nope. I don’t even want Disney to even go near Mario. Mario may have Sora join Smash, but Mario would make a double agent out of him to attack the company from the inside out.

@@YWNBAW69 They had pikachu's tail in this chip and dale movie though

yeah, that and the amount of 2D animated characters in the backgrounds doesnt make it seem like a budgetary issue in the slightest, ESPECIALLY with ALL the IP's they attatched to this movie. Having a movie where the 2D characters are 2D EXCEPT the 2D main character who is 3D cel-shaded feels like the most "what in fuck" decision you could possibly make. i thought it was laziness but no, most of the animation is anything but, what the hell was the decision behind making the entire Rescue Rangers cast 3D?

fuck why is chip so hot.

Disney's practically an empire now. They can do whatever they want. The problem is, they're so greedy and soulless that they're pumping out as much product as they can to pander to people who don't care enough about animation to take off their nostalgia goggles long enough to see the garbage they're being fed. They might not have talent anymore, but that's only because they choose not to.

I thought Chip N Dale is Disney produced?

Hit the damn nail on the head. I was wondering why Ralph Breaks The Internet wasn't doing it for me in that end, and then I just realized it wasn't really a joke. It's just Disney stating facts and events they would actually do if they could. Not surprising the Kylo Ren spoiled child joke got cut, because that would require Disney make fun of themselves without finding a way to make themselves look good too.

Because meta and self-awareness also requires some degree of self-critique. Disney can't do self-critique; the brand doesn't allow it. "Ha ha, princesses singing is dumb" [Princess sings without a shred of irony]

If there's one company that does not get to make fun of others' animation it's Disney

The Bobby Driscoll thing really kills any curiosity I had. It's genuinely uncomfortable to see them exploiting the story of a dead child actor they exploited in life. Even if it was born of ignorance, that doesn't speak well to the quality of satire.

@@gota7738 If you can't handle a bit of dark humor that has a sad but important message about the state of Hollywood then I guess the movie isn't for you.

@@IllusiveDev Not a huge loss, tbh.

@@IllusiveDevFair, I guess I just don't have that kind of depth of insight. Driscoll would surely have taken great comfort in knowing that Disney got to make more money off alluding to having treated him badly using one of his characters, and then sending said character to jail.

Yeah they were safe there Odd how they never made a Minus Garfield reference

Plus they did change her. She was never interested in romance in the original series and then they made her fuck the fly

@@slithra227 Zipper was also like... closer to a pet or a little brother to the Rangers. Yikes...

​@@reasyrandom okay but this is just his character. You do realise that the actors aren't bond to that? This is a great parody of two cast members being together after the show ends. Can be viewed on many examples

@@slithra227 Which is hilarious. Coomers should be mocked at every opportunity

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Don't say stupid things, the movie is pretty good.

If they made Monty a down and out cheese addict, I was expecting Gadget to be a bitter ex-member of the cast. I was expecting something along the lines of showing a clip of Gadget on The View flogging a tell-all book about the toxic work environment on the show created by Chip and Dale's constant simping for her. When all the trailers and promo materials didn't mention what she was up to in the present, I was thinking Gadget was a major plot point that they didn't want to spoil. But no, they just couldn't be asked to give her an arc.

At least something about the Russian cult. Or if it was that she was married, you could have done a meta joke about her being married to Clarice the chipmunk, Pinky or Brain for cross-studio celebration, or about a hundred other characters/actors than Zipper.

No kidding, there could have been a gold mine to pick about commentary of characters in old Saturday morning cartoons (and even some cartoons now) that have a female main character have "girl" be their main defining character. I haven't watched RR but I'm going to wager a wild guess Gadget falls into that at least a little bit. But then again maybe Disney didn't want to go there because then they'd have to joke about themselves and realize they did that.

@@Raziel312 Yeah, that's a big yikes from me, like...she's the most popular character of the show and giving her nothing to do just reeks of them being lazy. You mean to tell me this movie fully goes hard on the meta humor, but when it's with Gadget, they got stumped? They took more effort just getting OG Movie Sonic than anything with Gadget.

@@gregvs.theworld451 Well, honestly, I think Gadget fell into the neurodivergent character than the girl character slot as a lot of her plotlines dealt with her either thinking outside of the box or not appreciating social norms Yes, she got dolled up every time the team needed a femme fatale, but she was rather self sufficient qs a character on her only rather than being "Chip, only a girl".

I mean there’s a Winnie the Pooh horror film coming soon so anything’s possible

@@IllusiveDev There's an entire joke about making fun of Zemeckis' Motion Capture stuff... and Chip doesn't look too different tbh. Aside from not going the "hyper-realistic" route, he looks just as cheap.

I'm still wondering hi did they get Mr natural in this movie

Little bit but not really

It's self-referential humor. It's why games like Undertale with a literal tutorial where they hold your hand is fine. It all comes down to execution. Because as funny as you think your joke is, it still has to land.

Right 😭 I went into it knowing it was a bit silly and just watched to enjoy the experience, and I ended up liking the movie!

I dont think the film is bad, just... The og sonic dude...

Sonic fans overwhelmingly like the live action movies- were you not aware of the hype for Sonic 2 and the potential for a 3rd? It was just mostly the first design of Sonic fans did not appreciate and for good reason.

Well yeah, in a movie where his appearance is played for laughs - yeah it's great. But if that was the sonic that ended up in the first sonic movie, that movie franchise would've been dead on arrival.

@@MrConredsX I mean it came before the rescue ranger movie so I don't even know how you'd....

No.

The Ducktales reboot was, unironically, the best show of the past decade.

I'd think in that world logically ugly Sonic would just be 'surgically' fixed to be in the Sonic movies we know now but of course that would be less interesting

@@Bundalaba Presumably easier to start fresh with a new 3D model than to alter the old 3D model, especially since he was textured and rigged when they had to start-over and the proportions were very different. Realistically speaking, Dale getting 3D surgery and any of them growing up doesn't make an ounce of sense without explaining how iterations of the same character work and how some Toons (like Baby Herman) stop aging so I get where you're coming from. Either 3D Dale should be a new character or Ugly Sonic should just be Sonic now. I can accept there being different "people" filling in the roles but it really needs to be consistent somehow. lol I never thought of this while watching the movie though.

Yeah I immediately suspected the clay police chief but then the red herring of the deputy got me because I'm sure she was doing her best and it just didn't quite work (or the director was intentionally working against her to sell the red herring moment IDK.) I did consider that maybe Ellie just never considered what was her actual favorite before it became a plot point or maybe her favorite didn't really include Dale that much so she was trying to be kind by not outing Gadget as her favorite character lol. I'd legit have to look up episode names, which I did a few months before watching the movie because I was responding to someone else. I couldn't pick a fave mostly because I haven't rewatched it in years but I remembered loving when Gadget goes to Hawaii and meets her doppelganger, the spy parody to make Dale feel better where Gadget dresses sexy, and the Cola Cult is just so danged memorable (relatively speaking because I forgot it was the other rat who turned out to be the "true" villain of the episode) and it explores how we respond to failure. I can't remember anything else featuring Dale other than Foxglove because I liked the chipmunks but I watched the series for Gadget mostly. My bi/pan appreciation was in its infancy (hence why I also remember Foxglove lol. It helps she had a heel face turn in her first episode.) I also only remember the pilot arc for how they all met and the two squirrel sisters but just barely. It doesn't help that female characters were underrepresented in animation a lot back then so I focused on any of them unless they were extremely boring to me. And any character who had remotely Non-Binary or other LGBTQ+ vibes was an immediate fave, so I loved the villains unless they were super straight or extremely ugly or also bored me lol. (Edit: unfortunately, that would be most of the Rescue Ranger baddies to be honest. They were never that fun and exciting either. I only really vaguely recall Fat Cat and the bald scientist dude. Darkwing had some of the best baddies.) My favorite Easter Egg btw was Blacksad dressed up as Samurai Jack at the end (unless he was supposed to be dressed up as Usagi Yojimbo... Either way, it was an amusing knock-off combo and hot.) :D

Because it's so hard to watch

I would've voted for Bevis.

TOH and Amphibia are too good for this movie anyway, they deserve better.

On the flipside, if the recent animations there would be included... The Voltron booth would probably update along with it. We do not need to experience Voltron in 2022. I can just hear the groans from the hell gate. ... Said by someone who used to be a loving fan. Aaa, don't get me even started.

It's not a shame. I just know they would've ruined those too.

Hell I ain’t a fan and I was confused like “bro, what, seriously!?”

Hit me with spoiler

@@Hanmacx Spoilers... Zipper

@@mirkohoble oh that explains the recent rule34

@@mirkohoble The Easter Bunny from ACNH?

They did this man dirty and then made it a meta joke.

@@altejoh yeah… it was a bit in bad taste tbh.

Ah come on guys, can't you handle a little dark humor? I think it's a good thing to point out the terrible and tragic things that happen in Hollywood and without this movie pointing it out barely anyone would even know about the tragedy that occurred with the actor. It's a sad but necessary message.

@@IllusiveDev dark humour is fine and all, but it does not seem in good taste for a film under *Disney* branding to be drawing parallels between a character and his actor whose life was ruined by Disney. If it was any other company that had their name on this film, your argument would work, but when it's Disney, it's *really* bad taste

@@Subpar1O1 idk for me the fact that none of the people working at Disney at the time still work there for obvious reasons. If the parallel was intentional, I see it more like they're taking the piss out out of earlier selves for treating him poorly back in the day. I just doubt there was evil intentions behind the inclusion in this film but hey I could be wrong I'm human.

Nope.

This whole movie is much-like how SOUTH PARK once said “Member this” -Member Berries.

It's nothing that deep but it's definitely a fun movie with a lot of easter eggs, worth at least 1 watch especially if you already have Disney +.

There's a scene in the movie where a character literally looks at the screen and says "remember that stuff?". I think that's all you need to know before considering to watch this movie.

My main issue is how they didn’t actually engage with it. You have a 2D & CG duo with a where’s Waldo of animation deep cuts and in-jokes, but it’s almost all superfluous to the plot. Rather than having the characters be kidnapped and turned into bootlegs, they could have had them willingly turn into CG remakes because they don’t want to be forgotten. That way the story is about frozen nostalgia VS out of touch updates and the style and substance properly meshes. At this point if you strip away the Rodger Rabbit aspect you’re left with a forgettable buddy cop celebrity kidnapping story that’s been done to death.

Oh, you don't hate it, it's just mostly done badly. It takes a lot of effort is the problem, and no one wants to put it in.

I didn't like it in The Dragon Prince either but Zelda manages it brilliantly.

@@gaybatgosqueak I feel like (at least botw) Zelda is more "slightly sad watercolor landscape come to life" but I also very much agree with you

Source???

@@wasquash credits, check em

Most likely a lot

I'll check it out later to confirm.

I had a big chunk of Warner Brothers cartoons growing up myself.... 😄

Yeah, the ugly sonic jokes weren’t funny when it was hammed in so much. A shame because other than that he’s a decent character here with a good minor role.

@@grid9521 Well ""Minor".. he kind of has as much of a role, if not bigger, than Monterey, Zipper and Gadget, as he even partecipates in the final battle XD

Idk I don't think most people would want to see that. Less of a "not brave", and more of a "not stupid"

Well I assume he's an actor playing the pet. Plus it's hilarious how that pissed off the weirdos that are way too into Gadget

@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 its not that we're all into gadget in a weird sexual way, she represents our first childhood crush, so for disney to do that is terrible. Its clearly part of demoralizing tactics to further make men feel unimportant and out of place. Personally when the collapse comes I'll be great, i have plans to steal your women

@@the98themperoroftheholybri33 Damn this is some unhinged shit. If that was the case then the movie wouldn't have had its two main characters both be males lmao. It was obviously just a comedic subversion of expectations and a bit of gross-out that managed to piss off cheeto-dust covered weirdos online. And lol at the idea your incel ass is getting any women. Don't shoot up any schools Elliott.

Everyone including me keeps complaining that that's what it should have been - a Bonkers D. Bobcat movie. Hell, I'll even take a dull remixed origin story over this crap.

@@eatatjoes6751 Yeah. I mean, it is basically the same premise, which would make it so meta if it was the same cartoon.