Johnny Kling at the bottom right at 34:41 and a sliver of the card seen at the bottom right at 24:07 Note: I did not make the accompanying video, it was produced by Mastro Auctions for their 2007 Auction.
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@n176ae6 жыл бұрын
This was absolutely fantastic, thank you for uploading this
@silverfoocardboard82746 жыл бұрын
That was awesome! I love to hear the history of card collecting. Lionel Carter defined card collecting at its best. Thanks for sharing!
@sddn225 жыл бұрын
Great collection. I admire vintage and his collection for the hobby. Finally got one of his card and love it.. got a Phil Rizzuto Leaf rookie SGC 7.
@dustinbellinger34366 жыл бұрын
Congrats on the acquisition. I have a collector friend that met Mr. Carter at a convention as a teenager in the 70s. He wrote to him throughout the years and once was able to visit him at his home and got to view much of his collection. He talks frequently about how much he admired and appreciated Mr Carter's kindness to him as a young man even more than his extraordinary collection.
@DeadGuyCardboard6 жыл бұрын
Dustin Bellinger wow that would have been great to correspond with him back in the day
@icollectichiro6 жыл бұрын
Great video his collection was amazing love the history behind other collectors and baseball cards in general.
@JoeyBringsit6 жыл бұрын
This is the type of video that all vintage collectors need to see! Thanks so much for sharing! #VintageForeva
@jimmy_betmore Жыл бұрын
That Kling presents itself as much much better than an SGC 4. Sweet pickup and great video!
@halfcenturycollectingcards4 ай бұрын
Very cool-- thanks for sharing!
@Foo31125 жыл бұрын
Great video. Never seen that one before. Glad a real collector as yourself was able to obtain one.
@topps854016 жыл бұрын
Thanks a million for sharing the Carter video. Congratulations on adding one of his cards to your collection.
@philipwall10252 жыл бұрын
Thx so mutch for sharing all of that history, awesome, thx so much !This was awesome, really was.
@TonyR619Breaks6 жыл бұрын
Great video. Very entertaining for a collector. Thanks for sharing. 👍🏼😊
@kennycarter81793 жыл бұрын
I miss my uncle Lionel loved his collection, Thank you for uploading this!!
@DeadGuyCardboard3 жыл бұрын
Wow, was that really your uncle?
@kennycarter81793 жыл бұрын
@@DeadGuyCardboard Yes my fathers brother I remember visiting him in Chicago and seeing the collection when I was a kid.
@DeadGuyCardboard3 жыл бұрын
@@kennycarter8179 That must have been really cool to see in person. Do you have any of his cards?
@kennycarter81793 жыл бұрын
@@DeadGuyCardboard It was, no none of us had any of his cards
@DeadGuyCardboard3 жыл бұрын
@@kennycarter8179 If you search "Lionel Carter" on eBay, you'll come across his cards to buy from time to time.
@bowman536 жыл бұрын
Quite a story, and very cool that you've snagged that piece of history! Well done.
@41sledge6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic footage. Thanks for sharing, a great documentation of a true pioneer of the hobby.
@jchcollins4 жыл бұрын
Incredible. I'm going looking for a Lionel Carter pedigree SGC slab, just to have one. I was also at the point he appeared, taken aback by Bill Mastro. I don't think I've ever seen him on video or heard him speak before. So that's the guy who trimmed the Wagner...wow.
@DeadGuyCardboard4 жыл бұрын
John Collins yep, pretty crazy video to look back on
@jjlaing32044 жыл бұрын
First time hearing about him. He was a true gentleman and didn't get hung up on value but the thrill of the hobby.
@glevy174 жыл бұрын
Wow!! I learned new things watching this. Amazing video. Thanks for uploading!
@kg6qzx6 жыл бұрын
Sooooo cool. Thanks for sharing this. What comes through from Lionel is the love of the cards themselves and money is secondary. Wonderful.
@lordstanleyjr20153 жыл бұрын
At first I thought the collections were all glued in the scrap books but then he mentions card mounts.Good thing he did it that way.
@adscollection31066 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love this video just fantastic I didn't know much about Lionel Carter so I really appreciate you posting this video brother and also congratulations on adding a historical piece to your collection just fantastic!
@JStottlemire14 жыл бұрын
This was amazing to watch. Thanks a million for sharing this. So awesome.
@dancalmpeaceful39033 жыл бұрын
Great story......similar to the "Church" comic find.....ah yes..the "gloss"...very similar to perfectly stored comics...and how collectors feel about them..... If a card or a comic is truly pristine...I've heard you can still smell the ink emanating from the piece....wow!
@buffalobraves95 жыл бұрын
10:15 "I have it on my wall" - Doug Allen. The wall of his jail cell.
@Breeder3334 жыл бұрын
Wonderful story and collection.
@passion4cards6 жыл бұрын
Awesome piece really enjoyed learning some of the history of Lionel...maybe I am the rebirth?!?! Since 1978 i have opened wax and built sets just like he did...certainly mine aren’t the iconic sets he handled yet the same philosophy...pretty cool to think about! Thanks for sharing!
@psychdonbaseballcards51376 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on the addition to your collection and thank you for sharing the awesome video.
@dk_kardboard2 жыл бұрын
This is amazing. Thanks for sharing. I know I’m a little late - but I found it.
@DeadGuyCardboard2 жыл бұрын
Glad you found it. He was true pioneer of the hobby.
@Quagigitymire5 жыл бұрын
Gotta give it up for the Maestro folks for really getting it done, getting an epic collector his cherished collection back after they had been stolen. That is just amazing and I'm sure they made the tragedy far less tragic for this man who is the pinnacle of card collectors.
@sickstuff76245 жыл бұрын
They were the ones behind the robbery, of course they “helped” him get his collection back. Well the “majority” of his collection. I’m sure they made off with a few high dollar pieces.
@djquiksilva5 жыл бұрын
What a cool story...thanks for sharing 🤙🏽
@ThoseBackPages6 жыл бұрын
DGC, This was INCREDIBLE!
@SconnieTradition6 жыл бұрын
Great video. Yes, I actually made it through the whole thing and learned something. You did a great job tying together that card to this video. Keep up the great work DGC.
@maxajackson896 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! I really enjoyed seeing it, thanks a lot for sharing
@petermikita78916 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! A true pioneer.
@MyViewAt506 жыл бұрын
This was great; I'm glad posted this.
@jysportscardguy89354 жыл бұрын
So glad to learn about this! Thx for sharing!
@LeeCopus Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed as if they were mine.
@Retro_Fan6 жыл бұрын
15:45 His wife has the same reaction when hearing Bill Mastro's name as I do.
@DeadGuyCardboard6 жыл бұрын
Haha yeah they were both on to his shenanigans
@henrys36295 жыл бұрын
Reaction: Priceless.
@robertritchey12105 жыл бұрын
Holy Shit!! Absolutely Amazing!!
@snakeonia75425 жыл бұрын
Great doc and thank you
@jimmy_iKoN2 жыл бұрын
Great video
@bowmanbrent4195 жыл бұрын
After watching this last night I went on ebay and looked for some of these. All the good condition Carters were too much for me but i was able to find 2 low grade sgc Carter cards. 1 for 49 bucks and the other for 39.
@bowmanbrent4195 жыл бұрын
both poor #10
@DeadGuyCardboard5 жыл бұрын
That's a great pick up! Really cool to add a hobby pioneer to your collection.
@bowmanbrent4193 жыл бұрын
@@DeadGuyCardboard rewatching 😁
@steveselfridge71995 жыл бұрын
Anyo else think that Allen and Mastro may have orchestrated the robbery?
@Robert-nu4vcАй бұрын
I absolutely believe they robbed him. Allen knew what cards Lionel had and where they were kept. Mastro then magically tracks down some of the stolen cards? Very very suspicious. Then they convince Lionel to sell the cards through Mastro auctions, of course, so they can make more money off of the guy. I truly believe they committed this robbery, and they need to be held accountable for it. It disgusts me every time I watch this video. The plan for the robbery is taking place right on video while Doug Allen is sitting in Lionel's home, scoping out his cards.
@kg6qzx5 жыл бұрын
I’ve watched this several times since you posted it last year and I find it very interesting to watch. I find myself wondering if Mastro was ever a genuine collector or was he always in it for money? He seems genuinely fascinated by Lionel Carter....but clearly had an agenda. Doug Allen is a bit more obvious. I’m sure we all sincerely enjoy the value portion of collecting as it does make it more fun but no one will ever forget what he did. Thank You for posting this. I think it is cool that you have a piece of Lionel’s collection and value it for what it is. Real collectors can feel his pain by basically being forced to part with his collection simply because it became too valuable...something he spent his whole life building. Kind Regards, Pat
@benschneider29765 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. Yeah, it's a shame what happened to Lionel.
@kg6qzx5 жыл бұрын
To a guy that was really a true gentleman of the hobby. Honest and innocent.
@jacksena61285 жыл бұрын
Thats a nice card, look how the red just pops the card with the white borders.
@Korver2226 жыл бұрын
What an amazing story!
@Moishe5555 жыл бұрын
I think we can safely say who masterminded that robbery...
@danieldavis95645 жыл бұрын
Speechless
@iscafan6 жыл бұрын
This is great, thanks for posting! I cherish all of my Lionel Carter cards, including the Rube Waddell portrait at 24:02 Have you listened to the phone interview about his T206 Plank?
@DeadGuyCardboard6 жыл бұрын
iscafan One of your videos showing Lionel Carters was my first introduction to him. Yeah I heard that interview. Great interview
@landrythelegend69795 жыл бұрын
Incredible video
@screwthenet4 жыл бұрын
Wow...the amount of those cards he has...they gotta easily be 90% from over a century ago. Cool. Yah I wouldnt tell people either aside from family or my best friends lol Sucks that this colleciton went unknown and not lauded and beloved by people because of fear of thievery; which was warranted because part of the cards were stolen uring the break in they said happend. Dang people. GREAT VID THOUGH! Hope they got at least a $million+.
@johnathonhiner30154 жыл бұрын
Sad BGS or PSA didn't the the grading rights, premiums are so much larger, what a stellar collection.
@DeadGuyCardboard4 жыл бұрын
Johnathon Hiner PSA tends to sell for more than SGC, but Beckett grades vintage/pre-war cards sell for less than SGC.
@michaelhuertaz78674 жыл бұрын
Holy Grail 🙌🙌
@TwoPyramid4 жыл бұрын
These still don't float my boat like PSA 10 80's junk wax.
@leswadley67924 жыл бұрын
When someone tells you it doesn’t matter about what they go for; you better be suspicious of that person! Hope the carter family didn’t get ripped off!
@Robert-nu4vcАй бұрын
Lionel Carter got burned really bad by Doug Allen and Bill Mastro. They are scumbags!!
@thebookoffesteskyle17535 жыл бұрын
very nice
@henrys36295 жыл бұрын
Glad he trimmed the photo corners and not the cards.
@jimreed21384 жыл бұрын
Great video!! What a beautiful collection 💓. I wonder what the 52 Mantle graded?
@coyotegrad-collectables6 жыл бұрын
Cool video bro
@AndresGonzalez-gf6rj4 жыл бұрын
Woooou! Tengo más de 3 mil baseball hide I will beging to looking what really have
@richard54694 жыл бұрын
How and why was SGC chosen to grade the cards and not PSA? Thanks for the video.
@CollectorsFix5 жыл бұрын
I noticed something interesting in the video... does anybody know if Lionel Carter kept multiples of his cards? I ask because at 23:25 you see his '38 Goudey Greenberg in his album and it has a diamond cut, but at 32:49 they show a Greenberg that graded an SGC 10, and it is now perfectly centered and perfectly square. I hope to God that that is not the same card after being trimmed. I know Mastro was a real piece of you know what so I wouldn't put it past him. Also, the SGC 10 Greenberg has the two top corners flared at the tips, which I've read is a telltale sign of a card being trimmed. What do you guys think?
@DeadGuyCardboard5 жыл бұрын
Interesting observation, but it's not the same card. The Greenberg at 23:25 is the 1938 Goudey with captions variation. The one at 32:49 is the 1938 Goudey without captions variation.
@superman04p2 жыл бұрын
@@DeadGuyCardboard good eye
@Texlozada6 жыл бұрын
Great video loved it but I do think Bill & Doug Stole the cards the first time >> They seem very odd to me..
@DeadGuyCardboard6 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't that be a twist.
@KWAPT5 жыл бұрын
Tex ThaCollector They were both convicted of fraud and did time in federal prison. They sold make memorabilia and ripped off hundreds of good hard working people.
@Robert-nu4vcАй бұрын
I truly do believe that Allen and Mastro stole Lionel's cards. These guys are disgusting.
@asalonitis5 жыл бұрын
Dou Allen was sentenced to 57 months in prison in 2014. WTF!?
@buffalobraves94 жыл бұрын
"Nnnnnnn K"? Mastro and Allen's names could have been the kings of the hobby. Instead their names live in infamy as the worst of the hobby. All that is wrong with the hobby.
@alexkriaras70185 жыл бұрын
its a shame these scumbags took advantage of carter
@DeadGuyCardboard5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's really sad he was forced to sell his collection.
@stevenguevara21844 жыл бұрын
Who robs senior citizens? Good Lord
@Robert-nu4vcАй бұрын
Doug Allen and Bill Mastro. That's who.
@briandm335 жыл бұрын
In our lives we look at things better about all things in life but this guy acts like that his brain is missing things in it.
@dallaswiller5 жыл бұрын
T. Toe oh 6
@Pathisnarrow2225 жыл бұрын
Who disliked this video?!?!
@DeadGuyCardboard5 жыл бұрын
Probably the guy who stole Lionel's collection. :)