the lost legacy of k-pop legends (TVXQ's J&J) pt1

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all-kulture

all-kulture

8 күн бұрын

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#tvxq #dbsk #tohoshinki #kpop #boygroup #legends #legacy #blacklist #blacklisted #controversy #scandal #smentertainment #sm #yoochun #xia #junsu #jaejoong #lawsuit

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@whenfinish
@whenfinish 6 күн бұрын
“Unhuman face” that’s the best way to describe Jaejoong’s insane visuals ❤
@Doihlly
@Doihlly 6 күн бұрын
The way Jaejoong and Junsu were blacklisted for speaking up about being mistreated. It’s like sm wanted to silence them. I hate Lee Soo man so much...
@abcd-jk4zb
@abcd-jk4zb 3 күн бұрын
​@@oracourse where in the comments did she imply that? Junsu's fans have to interject everywhere.
@abcd-jk4zb
@abcd-jk4zb 3 күн бұрын
​@@Doihlly don't apologise to these crazy people. You didn't even say anything.
@oracourse
@oracourse 3 күн бұрын
@@Doihlly I apologize. My comment was meant for someone else, dunno why it went under your comment. I'll delete, sorry about that.
@oracourse
@oracourse 3 күн бұрын
@@abcd-jk4zb Relax, I misplaced the comment.
@user-ui8uw2xc3h
@user-ui8uw2xc3h 6 күн бұрын
SM is so evil for doing this to literal children 😭 it still hurts but at least jaejoong and junsu seem to be thriving more than ever now
@Hope55328
@Hope55328 6 күн бұрын
Jaejoong is very popular in japan till now, also is gaining popularity because of his show. He is the the richest idol in kpop now. Jyj did alot of things in just 4 years
@RinaCh
@RinaCh 6 күн бұрын
SM taking 50% of income is just crazy
@hyunrahan5265
@hyunrahan5265 3 күн бұрын
For me personally Junsu has the most unique voice I have ever heard. I can recognise his voice easily.
@mingkyumin
@mingkyumin 5 күн бұрын
Kpop is nothing if dbsk never exist
@ferntorres2335
@ferntorres2335 4 күн бұрын
I like that jaejoong & junsu are still releasing music, their legacy isn’t lost more like forgotten due to the 15 blacklist but they are still doing very well for themselves. Also jaejoong is releasing a new album on the 26 called flower garden to celebrate his 20 year anniversary please support the album 🙏
@soomi
@soomi 6 күн бұрын
Yeah I can definitely see that the CreBeau was the final straw that broke the camel's back. Thanks for this extensive investigational essay in 2024, so newer fans understand a huge piece of kpop history that is important til this day.
@abc_jv_xyz
@abc_jv_xyz 6 күн бұрын
5:58 SM WAS GREEEEEDY
@kaciaali728
@kaciaali728 6 күн бұрын
I can never forgive SM for all the lost opportunities/mistreatment of the members who left.Did you know that even John Oliver talked about how outstanding jaejoong is as a vocalist in his show in 2016/2017.I think if the same case happened in the west, the industry and general public would have been more vocal/supportive about the members who left and thing like blacklisting will never exist but since it's SK well , we knew how things went ,
@Hope55328
@Hope55328 6 күн бұрын
Yeah it's kpop
@icyhot8474
@icyhot8474 6 күн бұрын
Dammm even the members themselves protect and fight for each other
@Hope55328
@Hope55328 6 күн бұрын
Jaejoong and Junsu, despite facing significant challenges including blacklisting, have made substantial achievements in their careers. JYJ was big ( you have to check in internet) Jaejoong is the richest idol after JYP .His popularity in Japan is noteworthy, with successful endeavors in singing, acting, and songwriting. He is the author of two cookbooks, ( the first idol to do that ) Junsu has also achieved considerable success, particularly in the field of musical acting in Korea. Both Jaejoong and Junsu now run their own companies, You can check their songs, they are on youtube
@all-kulture
@all-kulture 5 күн бұрын
i'll cover jyj and jj's solo careers in the second part.thanks a lot for the extra info!!i didn't know jaejoong is that rich thats crazyy
@1224thetami
@1224thetami 5 күн бұрын
​​@@all-kulturehe is very very rich, but Junsu is richer than him. He is living in Signiel and his wealth (because of how well musicals pay and he is just enormous in the field) is often spoken about on tv, he is teased by Jaejoong himself because of how rich he is lmao Edit: will you only be covering Jaejoong's career?
@all-kulture
@all-kulture 5 күн бұрын
@@1224thetami omg they are such kings lmao and no,i'll cover the careers of both :)
@1224thetami
@1224thetami 5 күн бұрын
​@@all-kulture I will watch the other part(s?) Too then^^
@michellemercado3884
@michellemercado3884 3 күн бұрын
It’s been 15 years already but it still hurts, I will never move on from this!!!
@pettyten1582
@pettyten1582 4 күн бұрын
can't wait for part two. I saw your community post a few weeks ago about this video and how you were doing research. this was worth the wait and did a great job at laying out the timeline!
@all-kulture
@all-kulture 4 күн бұрын
thank you so much!!i believe part 2 will be out until wednesday:)
@user-ui8uw2xc3h
@user-ui8uw2xc3h 6 күн бұрын
Already know the story but watching because my babies 😭
@sigitmargiadi9390
@sigitmargiadi9390 4 күн бұрын
if tvxq still exist as 5 members, no one can compare with them..
@ask_jyj2667
@ask_jyj2667 5 күн бұрын
Jaejoong was the main vocalist from the beginning. If you look at their first songs and acapella songs, it becomes clear. At first, Junsu's vocal cords were not in good condition and his doctor even said that he could not sing, but he recovered and the two of them continued as main vocals in the following songs. There are videos that analyze the TVXQ's songs based on vocals. It is clearly visible who is the main vocalist and who stands out in the songs. I'm surprised that new TVXQ fans are saying that Changmin was the main vocalist from the beginning and Jaejoong was just the group's visual.
@ot7oclock
@ot7oclock 6 күн бұрын
the blacklist was recently removed or something along those lines after lee soo man left sm for good since jaejoong is able to exist on his youtube channel pretty peacefully(??)
@all-kulture
@all-kulture 6 күн бұрын
i'm gonna discuss that in part 2
@1224thetami
@1224thetami 6 күн бұрын
The blacklist is not over. It is slightly better compared to 14 years ago tho ofc. Junsu was able to make a 15 min appereance in Return of Superman
@ot7oclock
@ot7oclock 6 күн бұрын
@@1224thetami thats fair! im not sure of the details
@1224thetami
@1224thetami 5 күн бұрын
​@@ot7oclock we still have a long way to go. He is still unable to promote on music shows (or pretty much any variety show) even nowadays. He just released a song a couple of days ago but no tv promotion whatsoever.
@kaciaali728
@kaciaali728 5 күн бұрын
SM has no power over youtube that's how jj can have his variety show.Since SM scandal last year, jj and js appear sometimes for couple minutes in some variety shows but never in variety/music shows about singing despite them being singers.JJ was on a cooking show in KBS and JS guest on the return of superman.
@davestridr
@davestridr 6 күн бұрын
i thought you said you scrapped this 😭 but great video as always!
@all-kulture
@all-kulture 6 күн бұрын
my words have an expiration date you should never fully believe anything i say
@LOVEDlVE
@LOVEDlVE 4 күн бұрын
tysm ALWAYS for doing the best research on old kpop.. its so hard to find good info these days
@all-kulture
@all-kulture 4 күн бұрын
thank you for your words and support 🥹🫶
@ricoletta
@ricoletta 3 күн бұрын
Thank you for this coverage! Always makes my blood boil to think back to the way JJ & Junsu were treated.. SM was way too powerful to be confronted by any lone individuals
@Sooya_Luver
@Sooya_Luver 6 күн бұрын
8:48 why did I thought you were talking about you had a son 😂😭✋🏽
@all-kulture
@all-kulture 6 күн бұрын
lmaoo
@coco_cream
@coco_cream 6 күн бұрын
Your channel is brilliant.
@all-kulture
@all-kulture 6 күн бұрын
omg thank you 🥹
@Hope55328
@Hope55328 6 күн бұрын
Jaejoong and Junsu, despite facing significant challenges including blacklisting, have made substantial achievements in their careers. JYJ was big ( you have to check in internet) Jaejoong is the richest idol after JYP .His popularity in Japan is noteworthy, with successful endeavors in singing, acting, and songwriting. He is the author of two cookbooks, ( the first idol to do that ) Junsu has also achieved considerable success, particularly in the field of musical acting in Korea. Both Jaejoong and Junsu now run their own companies, You can check their songs, they are on youtube
@nydayo
@nydayo 3 күн бұрын
Liked the video, thank you for making this. Gonna nitpick but one of the members names is pronounced Jaejoong not Jayjung 🙃 are you gonna do a part two?
@all-kulture
@all-kulture 3 күн бұрын
yes i will make a part two but from what i’ve seen that’s actually the english pronunciation of his name,if you’re saying in korean or japanese then yeah im sure it’s different
@Spicalaxy.22
@Spicalaxy.22 2 күн бұрын
SM: "These members are greedy" Also SM: *takes 50% of their income* That was crazy. Like if you ain't earning enough from all that insane hardwork might as well invest some earnings onto a business?
@higherground0711
@higherground0711 2 күн бұрын
Jaejoong himself said that they were "ready to give up the cosmetics company business if SM had listened to their other needs” So come on now. They didn’t leave sm bc of the cosmetic company xd
@all-kulture
@all-kulture 2 күн бұрын
@@higherground0711 oh really?do you have any link?it would help me a lot with the second part
@higherground0711
@higherground0711 2 күн бұрын
@@all-kulture KZfaq deleted my comments so i sended to your gmail
@abc_jv_xyz
@abc_jv_xyz 6 күн бұрын
so the least popular members were the ones who stayed in SM?
@all-kulture
@all-kulture 6 күн бұрын
yep
@brennathecatlover4360
@brennathecatlover4360 6 күн бұрын
Isn’t max known to have really powerful vocals how is he one of the least popular?
@abc_jv_xyz
@abc_jv_xyz 6 күн бұрын
@@brennathecatlover4360 i've heard that junsu and jaejoong were actually the two best vocalists in the group, so i guess changmin became more known for his vocals after they left idk much about them but i've been told their vocal ranking was: 1- Junsu 2- Jaejoong 3- Changmin 4- Yunho 5- The other guy, thankfully
@all-kulture
@all-kulture 6 күн бұрын
@@brennathecatlover4360 being one of the least popular members of tvxq doesn't really mean anything bc they were still more popular than the most popular member of other groups lol they were all extremely popular
@brennathecatlover4360
@brennathecatlover4360 6 күн бұрын
@@abc_jv_xyz I’m pretty sure yoochuns rape case was proven false or something least what I heard and found but I could be totally wrong
@1224thetami
@1224thetami 4 күн бұрын
Let me get this straight for the comments I just read. There was no such a position as "main" "lead" or anything as such back in the day. Tvxq's positions had other names and it didn't have comparison with the aspects kpop groups nowadays use to choose the positions international kpop fans know now. There wasn't a "main vocal" in tvxq or else the one who would step forward when asked to sing alone wouldn't be Junsu or he wouldn't be the one in the "best vocalist rankings" even at their group days. Junsu (and Jaejoong) would be the closest to a main vocal as you guys seem to only name it now... but their positions were not called that. Jaejoong was middle while Junsu was middle high. Do not mislead the author of the video nor go and mislead newer kpop fans who did not know about how this acapella group "worked". Thanks. Other than that, I will wait for the following parts. Thanks for the video (:
@all-kulture
@all-kulture 4 күн бұрын
thanks a lot for always helping me by sharing your knowledge!!i really appreciate that🫶
@wmelon26
@wmelon26 Күн бұрын
I don't consider the tvxq legacy to be lost. They are just being forgotten, like others older group in K-pop.
@HelloKittie309
@HelloKittie309 5 күн бұрын
Are you going to talk about the saesangs as well?
@all-kulture
@all-kulture 5 күн бұрын
yes
@khangnguyen550
@khangnguyen550 3 күн бұрын
Kim jaejoong really make his name in japan insta pic with japanese celebrities,comment mostly japanese fans,brand deal,gig and endorsement,appear lot japanese variety's show,japanese drama,have house over that how much he promoted over there,got driver license and drive over there and got sucessful business over there as well.
@kaciaali728
@kaciaali728 3 күн бұрын
And ? what's your point here ? (it's his hard work, he wasn't stealing from somoene like SM did) .Jaejoong restarted promoting in japan since 2018 (wich is 09 years after the lawsuits, wich is a very long time ) since in korea he (and junsu) are still blocked from promoting freely to this day.He is a korean idol,he said multiple times he wanted to promote in music shows etc in SK like any other artist.He (and junsu) has every right to promote freely in their home country without a mafia-company blocking them.
@khangnguyen550
@khangnguyen550 3 күн бұрын
@@kaciaali728 it crazy how much power sm has to block their artist from promted in south korea so they shifted to japan and china promted there instead I sorry I didn't say anything bad about jaejoong.
@kaciaali728
@kaciaali728 5 күн бұрын
For the record, the one who hold the main vocal position in the group as 5 was jaejoong.He was just too handsome, ppl thought somoene who is visual of the group can't be that good of vocalist lol
@all-kulture
@all-kulture 5 күн бұрын
so i got it wrong?i read that both jaejoong and junsu were the main vocalists
@kaciaali728
@kaciaali728 5 күн бұрын
@@all-kultureA lot of ppl like giving positions lol Jaejoong was the main vocal since their TVXQ days lol ppl on the international side tend to rewrite the past
@kaciaali728
@kaciaali728 5 күн бұрын
Adding this too, jaejoong is also a songwriter/composer, actor.He is the third korean idol to ever become a full member of the KoreaN Music Copyright Association (KOMCA) after Rain and GD
@all-kulture
@all-kulture 5 күн бұрын
@@kaciaali728 oh ok thanks for sharing info
@drumtap2792
@drumtap2792 5 күн бұрын
Jaejoong was the main vocalist in the sense that he usually sang the main melody in their songs because he had the voice with the least "quirks". Junsu and Changmin are also amazing vocalists of course, but their voices have very unique traits and sometimes you just need a voice with a "neutral" charactersitic like Jaejoong's to tie the whole group's sound together. I'm by no means saying that Jaejoong's voice isn't special - he's my one and only ultimate bias and has been for 18 years and counting, for god's sake - but that SM saw his voice as the most marketable and easiest to work around and so he was chosen as main vocal along with being the center and visual.
@hyakkimaru7681
@hyakkimaru7681 6 күн бұрын
Lost legacy?? He's not dead. He'll release a new album (his 4th in fact) next week
@drumtap2792
@drumtap2792 5 күн бұрын
Lol I don't think the video means to say they're no longer active or relevant or anything like that, but more trying to bring awareness to SM's horrendous mistreatment, trying to erase JYJ's contributions to TVXQ as if they never happened, and trying to destroy their careers in Korea and Japan through under-the-table blacklisting for the past 14 years (which is only now starting to relax but only slightly).
@predatorontheprey6275
@predatorontheprey6275 4 күн бұрын
And we shall be here for it! Ready and waiting for Wednesday
@user-jc2wq5gs8s
@user-jc2wq5gs8s 3 күн бұрын
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@user-tg4pm4il5h
@user-tg4pm4il5h 3 күн бұрын
Always come down to money!?
@kaciaali728
@kaciaali728 3 күн бұрын
Are you here pretending SM contracts were fair? the one JYJ sued about and detailed in the video you are commenting is fair?
@user-tg4pm4il5h
@user-tg4pm4il5h 3 күн бұрын
For the company not for the group, these groups work like the devil but are just pawns
@pamelajohnson9214
@pamelajohnson9214 4 күн бұрын
I like the fact that you actually did research. However I have to say that the premise of this video is flawed since it's from a purely Western viewpoint in saying their legacy is lost. TVXQ found success at a time before social media was prominent therefore majority of their fame was contained in Asia where it still remains. You can find videos of Korean kids as young as tweens reacting to their songs/videos who know who they are since their songs are still popular especially in noraebangs. So if you're using the fact that international fans don't hype them up that's not accurate since they were never big outside of Asia in the first place. Also they started the 2nd gen and we're currently on the 4th or 5th. Of course they won't have the same relevance with youngsters. And tying it to the lawsuit is also moot as it's something that would've naturely happened anyway as groups age. There are several of their peers who were popular and didn't have lawsuits that aren't known to current gen kpop fans. Just saying...
@all-kulture
@all-kulture 4 күн бұрын
knowing tvxq and their songs doesn’t equal knowing their legacy.i can’t fully say if younger korean fans know everything that tvxq did for k-pop because i’m not korean,based on what i’ve seen i believe they don’t know but if they do hey that’s great!however,i don’t see a problem at all with educating international fans
@pamelajohnson9214
@pamelajohnson9214 4 күн бұрын
@@all-kulture Definitely nothing wrong with educating people especially international fans. I really appreciate the time you took to do research. Don't get me wrong. My only issue is the framing of the video as their legacy has been erased. The duo kept the name alive for many years following the split but there's no denying it's been reduced which naturally happens anyway as groups age. Military service was looming for the 5 members so that was a hurdle that (like all Korean males) they would've had to face that eventually stops their momentum for 2 years. If it wasn't the lawsuit it would've been something. That's all I was trying to point out. Sorry if my words came out hostile in any way. Thank you for your reply 🤗
@all-kulture
@all-kulture 4 күн бұрын
@@pamelajohnson9214 no i get you,you didn’t come out as hostile but i disagree that the lawsuit didn’t played a part on their legacy being erased.and when i say “lost” or “erased” of course i don’t mean literally but considering how huge and impactful they were it’s crazy how so many new fans don’t about it
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