Even on the Haas it looked great!

@@TheMobileChicane they were rich on libery just missing the energy

Well every car on the grid is now black, so we're halfway there

​@@MrNegativecreep07rich energy

It won't be the same, but the DS Penske livery in Formula E is gorgeous, especially the one-off they ran in Monaco this year, about the closest you can get to seeing a Lotus around an F1 track in the modern day.

Thanks so much!

2003 is a great comparison for sure. I think in much the same way any one of Schumacher, Raikkonen or Montoya would’ve deserved the title that year, any one of the four title protagonists of 1986 would’ve been a worthy champion, but for unreliable machinery!

The Chassis was, but the engine wasn’t as reliable and also not as powerful. I wonder what would would have happened if the 98T had the Honda, as opposed to the 99T. I’ll one up you, the 98T was superior to the MP4/2. ‘86 is my favourite season as it’s one of the most brilliant WDCs in the 3rd best car with the 4 best engine.

@@TheMobileChicane WRT to Prost and De Angelis and reliability - they were much, much, much easier on their equipment while still being blindly fast.

@@palm92 for sure the 98t and FW11 were superior to the MP4/2C, as I said the MP4/2 had hit its development ceiling after 2 previous seasons of use. If the 98t had the Honda engine in 1986 then it would definitely have been Senna’s year.

@@McLMP4-22 My bad I appear to have misread that. Agreed.

What sort of pie?

Steak and Ale 😎

@@mrmurtagh11 Excellent

This is a much better use of that time. Good luck with your exam!

@@TheMobileChicanethanks 😊

I don’t blame you. Anything about Senna gets my attention and I just can’t resist. I just started watching this one & I’m already hooked

Hope you did well on your exams!

Agreed. Any of Senna’s fast laps on street circuits are always a sight to behold!

"none who can be said to be above him" Wow you guys are just straight up rewriting history now huh.

​@kodakreeeam9971 if you dont agree just ask the drivers themselves..

@@gianfrancopellegri6757 Yeah the drivers will say anything to glaze Saint Senna the 1st, their comments don't mean much. Fact is, the only reason he's revered so much is due to his tragic crash. Had he survived no one would be pretending he'd be the best. Owned by Prost, owned by Schumi so hard it he immediately accused Benetton of cheating the second he thought he couldn't beat him.

@@kodakreeeam9971schumacher was cheating on 94, and senna was in a brand new team. had schumi not had TC he wouldn't have bene close to winning the championship, and even while cheating he still had to crash into another driver to win.

It’s a great car (99T) but yeah it’s bulkier looking than the others. Also, it had the ‘86 spec Honda engine.

Post-Chapman Lotus was actually an improvement on 1979-80-81-82 which saw only one victory. The last Chapman glory year was 1978 and the success stopped abruptly after that. Senna, Ducarouge and Warr brought some glory back for a few years.

@@davidmacdonald1695 I wonder if Ground Effect had anything to do with that considering it got banned in the early 80s.

Thank you so much; it’s so nice to hear you were able to enjoy this with your dad!

Thank you so much!

@@TheMobileChicane Thank you for ptoviding us for free with content so good you could easily charge money for

Thanks for your support - I really appreciate it!

Sadly it still wouldn’t have likely come to pass. I recommend reading up on the “Delorean Scandal”, with which Chapman was involved. Had he lived, he likely would have been imprisoned for around 10 years for his part in that.

​@@TheMobileChicaneCame here to say the same. It would have potentially ended Lotus altogether, and the great name may have died with a whimper

I had the same idea too!

Hey, thanks for the feedback! From my end, the audio sounds ok (I am listening back through headphones though, so not sure if that makes a difference). I even boosted the audio a little more this time as I know there have been issues with quiet audio in the past. I’ll keep trying and keep improving 🙂

@@TheMobileChicane on computer headphones its fine, on phone headphones its kinda worse, i can hear it slightly but not very well, but as i said, your content is great, keep it up

Great suggestion!

Well that's a main point on the "senna goat" argument. He really developed in a unbelievable pace. And also, he always had grade A mind games. There's this story: during the pursue to find sponsors for his F1 debut, during a party with a company owner, he guaranteed he "would win in his first season". everyone started laughing, but senna was dead serious. A fact that the OP (this channel owner) should consider on a next video.

Absolutely , very quickly Senna was considered top driver . However, if you take a look his rivals , it was also true Piquet was fighting for WC in his second full season, Prost as well. The great ones usually very quickly show their talent . Notable exceptions : Mansell and Lauda .

Thank you, and thank you for your kind post on MGU-H (assuming that is the same David Lim!)

@@TheMobileChicane indeed lol

'Cars powered by Renault in 85 (8 cars) and 86 (6 cars) took 16 poles, 15 of them by Senna alone. And 5 victories, 4 of them by Senna alone.' Damn, now that puts things into perspective, doesn't it?

Thank you! I really need to look into the Spotify thing. It’ll happen.. one day 🫡

Best finish F1 ever just nudging Keke Rosberg at the stunning Osterreichring! Was fortunate to see the Penthouse JPS at the Rolex Heritage Festival Laguna Seca two years ago with a video on my channel. Maybe also the classiest F1 names of all time as well 😂

Thanks for the continued support Kellie! 🙂

Hi there! I currently use iMovie: mostly because it’s what I’ve used since I was at university so it’s easiest for me. But in the future I hope to switch to Adobe Premiere 🙂

Incoming 4 hour video essay of me manipulating results until Latifi wins a championship

An illegal Tyrrel car that was excluded from the championship later that year, and stripped of every result

Berger, Alboreto, Boutsen, Fabi… so many talented drivers of the 80s!

Senna at Williams ten years earlier is definitely an intriguing proposition. You can make an argument he could’ve been champion in 86 or 87. Would Honda have stayed with Honda if they had their favourite son Senna there? Would Senna be able to work with Williams long term, unlike so many others?

would Honda have been happy by late 1985 to make Senna their number 1 driver and not push to bring in a proven champion in Piquet? because Senna-Piquet, as a teammate combination, with the delicate man-management of Frank Williams, would have gone so toxic that by the end of 1987 the remains of Williams would have needed to be encased in concrete and buried at sea (also, in this parallel universe I think we'd end up remembering Derek Warwick and Nigel Mansell very differently - now those are two very interesting drivers and careers to compare and contrast!)

I absolutely agree on the Senna/Piquet/Williams concept - that would’ve been a total disaster! 😅

Schumacher at Ferrari from 96-00 would make a great story for sure!

New logo; new intro!

@@TheMobileChicaneloving it as always, keep it up

Doh. De Angelis was going slower. What good was his 'vastly superior reliability in an identical car'? He still lost to Senna BTW De Angelis had the new more fuel efficient Renault engine at Imola 1985 whereas Senna had to make do with the older engine. Identical, not always.

After Prost, after Schumi, after Max, after Kimi, after Alonso, after arguably even Ham tbh.

Clark & Senna would be my top 2.

​@kodakreeeam9971 No way Senna is behind Kimi or Alonso (and I thought me putting Alonso as the 7th greatest would be too much for everyone). And too early to put Max above.

But seriously, it's always a joy when you upload new stuff, can't believe I was actually the first viewer and commenter! (As far as the visible stats can be trusted)

I speak Portuguese and you win the prize of the most Moronic comment. Senna's faith was real and WHO ARE YOU to question it? Furthermore, saw interviews with family and stuff, Senna was just a great human being with great values. If you're jealous of it, there's always space to be more like him. Or, you can go the playboy road like Piquet. Either way, ways of being. But you're NO ONE to question his faith. And considering he died first, doing what he loved and managed to do stuff that even today wasn't replicated (i.e. winning with no brakes, winning with only a gear), I tend to be inclined to think that God, whomever it may be, was really besides him.

​@@LarsFerdinandI did not question his faith I just didn't care much for it.

@@aydankhaliq2967 You put spiritualism and arrogance in the same sentence. To make matters worse, you said Senna was an a**hole on track when he was just extremely competitive. Now, if I think about Schumacher, for whom I'd have a plethora of examples of being an a**hole on track and winning dirty, I think your words would apply better. But I guess in the end there's some Universe justice in all of it and the end results if we really go out and compare.

​@@LarsFerdinand he said spiritualism and arrogance. Two separate things. You're acting as if he said "his arrogant spiritualism".

​@@LarsFerdinand I'm sure every racing driver has a competitive spirit, but that doesn't mean we should wreck or sabotage our competitors. It's just plain wrong and at that point, it isn't sport. It's the start of a riot. Rules are there for a reason.

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It's alright to admit you're misinformed and/or a know-nothing Lotus were subtly and inexorably already on the downswing when Senna joined seeing as IDK Colin Chapman had died and they weren't able to adequately replace that mind

​if they had two strong drivers, they would not collapse, who did not want, senna ​ btw i think senna's attitude is normal, but the team should insist @@MrBlazemaster525

Idk why you even say arguably, he straight up was denied because Ayrton saw him as a threat, crippling the team in the process as they had to make due with two mediocre supports so Senna's feelings didn't get hurt. Guy was fast but his ego was up in the fucking stratosphere, he's probably the most self-centered champion of all time. This whole Senna mysticism is getting really old tbh.

Shumacher wouldn't have achieved anything with a 1988~1993 Lotus, nor would he have had success on the Peugeot-powered McLarens. Schumi was lucky to make the right connections on the Sauber Mercedes sports car effort, and ultimately that's where his success in F1 came from. He does deserve credit for getting those people involved with Benetton and then Ferrari, yes, but if you were to put him in Senna's context, things would be different.

@@peekaboo1575 no schumacher would have had success anywhere he went, he tested a ligier for 1 day and went a second faster than panis, good enough for 3rd on the grid at that years portugese gp when schumacher was out with injury his replacement mika salo came in and qualified as low as 18th on the grid in the 1999 ferrari, schumacher came back and put it on pole by a second, so you should look at mika salo's cars that he had in his career and imagine schumacher going at least 2 seconds faster, for example the 2000 sauber schumacher can win a title in that car schumachers success came from being an incredible driver and the people involved with benetton were lucky that schumacher came along, for example 1996 benetton, all the players still involved, race winning drivers involved, schumacher left, the wins left and the team was reduced to nothing

​@MrRodzilla OK listen, Schumi is my GOAT and there's no denying he's the best to ever do it, but claiming he'd even get close to a title fight in a Sauber is next level delusion.

@@kodakreeeam9971 well salo was on average 0.518 slower than irvine in qualifying and schumacher was 0.947 quicker than irvine in qualifying that season, so lets just assume schumacher could qualify 1.465 faster than salo over the whole season so he gets pole in the 2000 australian gp in the sauber, sauber withdraws from brazil damaging schumachers title bid, schumacher rebounds to qualify 2nd at san marino, 6th in britain, pole in barcelona (i removed schumacher real 2000 barcelona ferrari pole time since there can only be 1 schumacher), 5th in european gp, 4th at monaco, 5th in canada, 2nd in france, pole in austria, 4th in germany, pole in hungary, 9th in belgium, 3rd at monza, 3rd at USA, 8th at suzuka, 5th at malaysia so thats 4 poles, 4 other top 3's and mostly competitive qualifying times, he could win a title with these performances, so whats wrong with this? are you disputing that schumacher can qualify 1.465 quicker than salo over a season? if you think that then you don't know about schumacher, he did more against all his benetton teammates how about we measure how far he was ahead of johnny herbert and then do the same for any of herberts old cars, like the 1996 or 1997 sauber, schumacher would definitely win the title in the 1999 stewart

bad bait or just colour blind? 🤨The second band under the green is a dark blue and there's also lighter blue stripes bordering the green and dark blue bands...its even stated on McLarens website in a tribute article to him.

@@EnfvntTerrible wow.. dude. ok. Didn't know that. But it certainly is NOT visible in any video of Ayrton in action that I know of, tbh. I don't even see it when looking at high res pics of his helmets, so still odd to describe the helmet with those colors that's it ;)