The MacBook Pro 16-inch is the one you’ve been waiting for
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4 жыл бұрынApple fixed the things we wanted it to on the 16-inch MacBook Pro: the keyboard is back to the scissor switches, there are better thermals on the processor, and heck - the Esc key is back! We break everything down in this review.
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@TheVerge 4 жыл бұрын
Have you been waiting to buy a MacBook Pro?
@capitalp4688 4 жыл бұрын
Of course, Nope
@just_p_b9878 4 жыл бұрын
No.
@myew 4 жыл бұрын
Nah.
@nelonelo1854 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@starless7972 4 жыл бұрын
No
@Borisvua28 3 жыл бұрын
9:08 "If 2020 is anything like 2019" Oh, boy
@shercrox8650 4 жыл бұрын
Dieter Bohn - By far the best guy on The Verge.
@firebomb38 4 жыл бұрын
SherCrox I couldn’t agree more! 👌
@BleakVision 4 жыл бұрын
He's the last normal white dude. Tick tick tick...
@nettack 4 жыл бұрын
There was never a discussion. His pedigree is PreCentral.
@aminbajrektarevicab 4 жыл бұрын
If he left the verge, I would happily forget about the verge.
@KaisuiSTFC 4 жыл бұрын
Dieter and Becca, my favorite people on The Verge by far.
@electrikoptik 4 жыл бұрын
Damn, I would be salty AF had I bought a MBP in summer 2019.
@jsloat5832 4 жыл бұрын
😞
@ahsanminhasofficial 4 жыл бұрын
Ordered a 15 inch 2019 2 days before the announcement, when the 16 inch got announced I drove like I was in a Fast & Furious movie to the apple store and luckily got the order changed without hassle
@trumajore7989 4 жыл бұрын
Yeaaaa, but 4 months from now the prices will be down... I’ll get one around then
@MMMM-vh5wl 4 жыл бұрын
Hey
@ClaxtonBay123 4 жыл бұрын
@@Pingwinho Meh you should have waited. This has been rumored for a while
@PashaBean 4 жыл бұрын
We bought a 15" a couple weeks before the 16" was announced and thankfully Apple let us return it and buy the 16" model. HUGE improvements!
@waynewalkerorg 4 жыл бұрын
Damn 2019 was big for Apple
@amanagarwal1939 4 жыл бұрын
Wonder what you would be saying next year.
@LionsinofStraight 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that Apple finally listens to customers’ complain and admits that they were wrong
@taraemsavana6729 4 жыл бұрын
@@LionsinofStraight IKR?!! I really love what they done for Airpod pro.
@bosenngantor9160 4 жыл бұрын
definitely...still not the most innovating, but seriously Apple done a lots of things right this year, for (almost) every products they have
@BrawndoQC 4 жыл бұрын
@A random Human being Innovation is pretty dead nowadays for mobile phones and laptops, it's just improvements at this point and nice to see that's what Apple is now focused on.
@Sam-xn2ie 4 жыл бұрын
2019 is the year we see why Jony Ive left Apple. He was prioritising form over functionality. But now, glad to see Apple fixing their issues.
@TheHumble0ne 4 жыл бұрын
how do you explain the $1k monitor stand though
@meow.j 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheHumble0ne that is also in jony ive era
@EscapeVelocity11186 4 жыл бұрын
There's no way Jony Ive didn't have a hand in the 16" MBP considering he's only left relatively recently. This may have been the cause of a disagreement that pushed him to leave though.
@gyanprakash7445 4 жыл бұрын
Bruce Welling Compare that to 1080p Sony referrence monitors and you’ll know why it worth the money
@bryjam 4 жыл бұрын
@@EscapeVelocity11186 Apparently he unofficially left a while back, but it wasn't announced until recently.
@mguanipa2 4 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a 14 inch pro with a GPU, new keyboard, & the same speakers & microphones
@cereal1862 4 жыл бұрын
The keyboard is coming to the 13/14". But I really want to see a reduce in bezels...like really Apple. A dgpu is certainly interesting, though I'm not expecting it.
@allanojeda4629 4 жыл бұрын
With a better HD camera too no?
@BrawndoQC 4 жыл бұрын
Waiting for this one to replace my 2017 15" Macbook Pro.
@alxkub 4 жыл бұрын
I don't need a GPU and other stuff. Just give me a reliable keyboard with the f**ng esc key!
@Agent77X 4 жыл бұрын
Rumor is Apple will not just upgrade the keyboard for 13”-14” MBP in 2020. Will probably upgrade lo MBP in 2021-2022 with 2018 Ice Lake Intel mobile CPU!
@toothsayer 4 жыл бұрын
"It has a satisfying and fairly quiet... thunk." *Slams finger into keyboard*
@TheVirtualObserver 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@TLD 4 жыл бұрын
Thx for the shout dude 💪🏼
@spetz911 4 жыл бұрын
Oh my goodness! This video is so good :) You are doing a great job of reviewing. I love the fact that you called this keyboard “the new scissors mechanism”, because it has nothing to do with the old mushy keys. Thank you!
@jameshim526 4 жыл бұрын
The whole intro boils down to just saying “Apple FINALLY listened! Wow!” lmao
@anthonycbrown1952 4 жыл бұрын
Microsoft has been listening and there Surface keyboards have always been reliable.
@campkira 4 жыл бұрын
Not it all about production line for them...
@uptown3636 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks to the Verge team for such a good review video. I especially appreciate the binaural sound comparisons. Despite their limited utility, it's simply the best a video can do to simulate the experience of hearing it in person.
@dongemus 4 жыл бұрын
Jony Ive leaves and products finally get better 🤔🤔🤔
@cunnyman 4 жыл бұрын
He prioritizes design, which costed them good and working devices.
@raveenbikha 4 жыл бұрын
Don Gemus but still the new MacBook Pro have the same design only thicker
@raveenbikha 4 жыл бұрын
Victor Hage btw it’s not bad the design it’s looks very clean
@Davidsworldtravels 4 жыл бұрын
These products were being designed for the last couple of years. It's not like they came up with them right as he's leaving the building.
@samicenkci5419 4 жыл бұрын
Soo What MacBooks will bever have oled. It ll have mini led in 2020
@Tahoza 4 жыл бұрын
A 13/14-inch variant of this would be what I was looking for. I'm still running my old 2011 MBP (I did throw in some extra RAM in there which has helped it somewhat) and, besides the touchbar, this seems to be the closest successor to that age of MBP I've seen in a while.
@gurkigurkenglas 4 жыл бұрын
With this MBP I will finally upgrade from my mid 2012. And I can do it with a very peaceful mind.
@LaurenMichelleMD 4 жыл бұрын
I have been waiting for this one to finally upgrade my trusty mid-2012 MBP. So stoked!
@ek071391 3 жыл бұрын
Haha, I have a mid-2012 also, heavily upgraded (when you could) it's a freakin beast!
@AsadMaqbool1 4 жыл бұрын
Love your reviews, they keep getting better. You’ve quickly become one of the best reviewers on KZfaq, keep it up!
@nightryder21 4 жыл бұрын
The MacBook Pro 16"... The. MacBook we should have released 3 years ago. Lol
@vishalbharadwaj570 4 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly ..
@TheVirtualObserver 4 жыл бұрын
@@vishalbharadwaj570 True, but people would've been in a rage over them switching over to USB-C even if this was the MBP that was released a few years ago. Now tho everyone's used to the current layout so a lot of the bad mojo they had from before has dissipated.
@campkira 4 жыл бұрын
that why they made it....
@weareallbeingwatched4602 4 жыл бұрын
8 to 10
@sohailmuhammadrafiq1053 4 жыл бұрын
A huge F for those who bought their MacBook Pro this Summer 😂
@AngeloPangan 4 жыл бұрын
The best 16 inch Macbook Pro review ever and I watched a lot of it. It's not too short or long. It's simple but it covers everything. Excellent job guys!
@dnb888 4 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for the scissor style keyboard. I am super happy with how this unit turned out cant wait to get one
@leonheart5328 4 жыл бұрын
I Just bought it last night. My first MacBook. I was never a MacBook person until this one came out. Love it so far.
@edharkins7697 4 жыл бұрын
Great review, thank you! I intend to upgrade from my 2015 MBP 13 inch. Looking forward to the larger screen, faster processor and those new speakers you like so much.
@imrankinariwala1760 4 жыл бұрын
Straight on point. Love ur review. No nonsense or overakting lije others. Keep it up man
@gatsbysdead 4 жыл бұрын
Me in 2018: okay, my 2012 mbp is on deaths door. I’m just gonna assume they’re not gonna fix this and deal with a 2018. Me in 2019: definitely not crying.
@haysoos123 4 жыл бұрын
Lol sorry to hear that. I also have my mid-2012, still in perfect condition. Replaced the battery last year and gambled on waiting another year. Not sure if that makes you feel better ;)
@tanmayjeevan 4 жыл бұрын
haysoos123 Hey! I’ve been meaning to replace the battery of my 15” mbp 2013, is it worth the replacement? Do you get better battery life? I probably will wait for the 14” mbp hopefully sometime next year to upgrade.
@ctrlaltdestroy91 4 жыл бұрын
@@tanmayjeevan I replaced the battery on my mid-2014 mbp 15" and it's been running smooth ever since. It's definitely something I'd recommend to do if you plan on keeping your mbp for a while.
@FelipeVentura 4 жыл бұрын
pressing F to pay respects
@gatsbysdead 4 жыл бұрын
Felipe Ventura I tried that but the f key is stuck
@takethefirststepsem 3 жыл бұрын
This is an excellent review. I've been debating on getting this one. These are the types of reviews I look for. Thank you.
@ericzhang7820 4 жыл бұрын
i love that you felt strongly enough about the speaker quality that you brought out the binaural mics, great review! convinced me to buy one
@davidlewis1787 4 жыл бұрын
The guitarist, I was expecting that he would start singing ‘macadaynoo’
@pablomartinez4265 4 жыл бұрын
This review was the most complete so far. Thank you!
@KOSTNOT 4 жыл бұрын
I would like to say that I love the Touch Bar, the contextual shortcuts are awesome!
@847mario 4 жыл бұрын
I still got my Mac book 15 with Retina display mid 2012 got me through two degrees. And still running strong. Just need a new battery now.
@princetech5701 Жыл бұрын
The Touch Bar is a great feature for the MacBook Pro!
@mortizasthetripleg 4 жыл бұрын
listening to this on my new 16" definitely dont need a headphone to know the difference.
@tonyblue5057 3 жыл бұрын
Quick question would u say it’s to big for travel. I’m a student I feel like the 13” is to small but I’m sacred the 16” might be to big.
@nicolocapovillatesta 4 жыл бұрын
Some people are reporting an issue with the 16”MacBook Pro. The speakers make a “popping” sound when they stop playing audio (watching a KZfaq video or editing in Final Cut Pro). Any thoughts on this? Have you experienced the same problem? By the way, great video. Thank you
@OzzieDrum 4 жыл бұрын
Great review. Really enjoyed it. Thank you!
@txprodigy95 4 жыл бұрын
Still rocking my 2008 aluminum unibody MacBook because it still works well for what I need it to do. I’ve maxed out the ram and changed the battery a few times though.
@AbhinavRaman21 4 жыл бұрын
now imagine Apple releasing Airpower next month. everyone would lose their mind lol
@masoncusack 4 жыл бұрын
Love the commitment to properly demoing the audio. But, the intro to the binaural section creeped me out.
@LionsinofStraight 4 жыл бұрын
MacBook Pro: The product that should be announced in The September event😔
@johnsr1975 4 жыл бұрын
Really enjoy your reviews, Dieter. Great stuff
@unreliablenarrator6649 4 жыл бұрын
I love the Touch Bar and it's very useful if you take the time to retrain yourself. Most people don't use most features so I'm not surprised a majority of people aren't motivated to break old habits to learn the usefulness of Touch Bar verses control keys.
@thaibinh1909 4 жыл бұрын
Listening to the microphone test on the 16" MBP and I am amazed
@KontauriC07 4 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this! Now, I'm only waiting for the money to come 😭
@gerryslater2339 2 жыл бұрын
After having a 2012 MacBook Air 13" & a 27" IMac Desktop that's been a real pain to use, so slow and the screen brightness had gone in the bottom right hand corner, which can be fixed but isn't easy. So for a great price of 1535 Euros I decided to ditch the IMac and 13" MacBook Air and go for the 16" MacBook Pro now that I'm retired and more static in my movements after Euro travel for 35 years, I was a little sceptical having seen the newer Pro's with the latest M1 processors, however watching this great review (many thanks) I am very pleased with my decision with what my needs now are, big enough as a Desktop and good enough to travel with even if a little heavy!
@kennycummings7279 4 жыл бұрын
To think I just bought a 15" in July...at least I have gotten used to and now like the butterfly keyboard
@speecher1959 4 жыл бұрын
Well, darn! I purchased the 15" at the end of last year because my my 13" 2010 MacBook Pro could not keep up with my photo processing. Fortunately, I've had no complaints about the 15", and here's hoping!
@radicalxedward8047 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting to upgrade my late 2011 MacBook Pro but I’m hesitating now because of the lack of faceID / better webcam which I’m betting will come next. I also think a 14” version might be better if they can still put dedicated graphics in it.
@DarkandTwisted 4 жыл бұрын
LOVE IT! I'm getting one ASAP!👍
@yankeesfan2726 4 жыл бұрын
fantastic review. thank you!
@leondroidgeeks 4 жыл бұрын
I really like the 16" model!!! I am just a bit sad that they didn't manage to keep the old form factor. I mean, the display is just 0.6" bigger and they still had to increase the size of the laptop. So did the bezels even shrink?
@bennsalinas 4 жыл бұрын
I've just upgraded from a 2015 13inch Macbook pro to this. I could have easily done with the new 2020 13 inch MBP but I just wanted a bigger computer. I love Macbooks!
@jungminkim7142 4 жыл бұрын
STILL HAVE MY MACBOOK PRO 2017 and still kicking. 😁 Hope you'll have wallpaper for MacBooks too.
@arttuvanninen2372 4 жыл бұрын
Theses Verge reviews are nowdays my favorite ones!
@twiggygarcia5096 4 жыл бұрын
this is going to be my christmas present to myself 😂
@mattido123 4 жыл бұрын
Mine just arrived today. So far I am very pleased. The keyboard is worlds better, and what's not to like about additional screen real estate?
@ovidius74 4 жыл бұрын
I loooove the touch bar. I use it a lot during presentations to quickly skip through slides.
@beardfootofficial 4 жыл бұрын
had mine for a week and pretty stoked...Faster than my 5k iMac that we use to edit 8k RED footage...Slightly faster. but still. Plus whoever the dude is that came up with the bettertouch bar app is my hero.
@AriIsenberg 4 жыл бұрын
Great review! So... do I get this 16" or wait until next March(?) for the 14"? :)
@zak-of-all-trades9638 4 жыл бұрын
Since using it with an external display also charges this MacBook, won't it gradually destroy the battery if you leave it constantly connected to a monitor/setup?
@jisaza2198 4 жыл бұрын
0:09 Just impressed that they still have their essential phone USB-C Cable
@JP-gravel 4 жыл бұрын
Had a MacBook Pro 15in for about 3 weeks, returned it for a full refund and just got the 16in MacBook Pro. Both were the 8-core model. The keyboard is a definite improvement, the speakers are good (I would say anything about 3/4 volume and there's auto-EQ occurring with the base), my Blue mic is still better, no accidental Escape key tapping, battery seems good so far (3/4 brightness) - today is first day I went to the office without my charger so let's see how well it does (timer's on). Apple goes from "Think Different" to "Do Obvious Things" in 2019. It only makes sense they bring this keyboard tweak to the other MacBook models. I also run Bootcamp, so far so good, and seems to run a tad quieter with the fans. I was having big issues with charging under load on the Windows side - need to re-test that with this model. OK that's my 2 cents!
@GarrettWease 4 жыл бұрын
I’d love to ditch my 2017 15” for this lol. Great review by Dieter as always.
@pychang 4 жыл бұрын
The speaker and microphone is truly impressive
@kavinsuresh5468 4 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best videos I have ever seen, just incredible man!
@davemustaine7504 4 жыл бұрын
Best videos... Like ever?!? I mean it's a pretty good review but not that good!!
@a.Hopeful 4 жыл бұрын
@@davemustaine7504 I would say my personal favourite Dieter videos from recent memory are the iPad OS review where he talks "linguistics and semantics" for quite a while and the Apple Watch Series 4 review from last year, where he literally falls down to test the fall detection feature... Quite hilarious, eh?
@huggyuk 4 жыл бұрын
I sense some sarcasm 🤦♂️
@kavinsuresh5468 4 жыл бұрын
@@huggyuk 😂
@nicolas.pascal 4 жыл бұрын
The inverted T arrow keys, is a step back. The previous layout was more uniformed and just made sense.
@GordonChaffin 4 жыл бұрын
That internal mic is actually pretty good! It's still hollow, but better than the other internal mics with which you compare. I'd say it's on par with or better than the in-wire mic from the standard Apple wired headphones. Most people in that use case of public space or VoIP call/video conference use that earbud/mic combo thingie. If you had a small room to yourself, the internal mic would be fine.
@JohnWilliams-dq8pp 4 жыл бұрын
OKAY THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE I WANT AN APPLE PRODUCT!! I REALLY DO!!
@therinwhitten 4 жыл бұрын
I actually like the Touch Bar. Got used to it and missed it when I use another keyboard.
@RashmiRanjanJena94 4 жыл бұрын
The intro sums up apple for 2019
@jdenino6022 4 жыл бұрын
I have a late 2013 13" Macbook pro with the scissor keys and refused to buy one with butterfly keys so yeah I'm considering getting a new one. I do like the magnetized charger though.
@marksahlgreen9584 4 жыл бұрын
Getting mine monday after my Surface Book 2 crapped out on me. Looking forward to it
@Big_Papa9115 4 жыл бұрын
I bought the 15 inch a week ago and returned it. Got the 16 inch 32GB RAM 2 TB SSD and 8GB GPU. The best laptop I ever owned. Keyboard is immaculate
@denniszenanywhere 4 жыл бұрын
I tried the keyboard at the Apple store. It’s an improvement but the thinkpad keyboard is still the best.
@ar_xiv 4 жыл бұрын
This is just a gripe but I want to remind everyone that the tower mac pro from 2006 started at $2500, not $6000. They didn't "just make it big again," they made it that much more unobtainable. I don't know why people are letting this slide.
@vinamraagarwal5095 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, everyone is talking about all the issues the MacBook has managed to solved. I would really like to know your views using this MacBook with the external monitors because there have been threads going on since a long time about how just connecting an external display leads to heating and FAN noise for the MacBook Pro and the graphics card pulls in very high watt even without performing any intensive tasks.
@SankarshanGhosh 4 жыл бұрын
So no one talks about the Mid 2019 Macbook even in comparison that I bought just a couple months ago or so.
@1idd0kun 4 жыл бұрын
It's old and busted.
@pauldanielmooney 4 жыл бұрын
Not sure what the hate is for the touchbar. For my work it certainly makes shortcuts easier because I hold down shift, or alt, and the touchbar changes to show me different shortcut options. It even helps me do screenshots without knowing the convoluted shortcuts for that. Beyond that, sure, I guess it's maybe not used to its full potential. But even the Escape key is there and I've never had it not work so I don't know why so many people so desperately needed this to be a physical key again. Oh well, no loss either way on that one.
@GeneralBulldog54 4 жыл бұрын
The issue I'm looking at now is that compared to my very old 17" I can no longer upgrade the memory or HD in the new Macs. Everything about this screams, must buy/upgrade but that aspect (which admittedly I'm not sure is current or old policy at this point) is enough to make me pause.
@DarkPa1adin 4 жыл бұрын
man you nail this review!
@Lucalaurin 4 жыл бұрын
guys I'm not sure if the woofers are doing anything about each others vibration, any info on that?
@v1Broadcaster 4 жыл бұрын
for the microphone I liked the 15" the best and absolutely hated the surface
@brandonfarley5297 4 жыл бұрын
If they brings these upgrades to the 13" I can FINALLY upgrade my 2015 MacBook air. YES, I've been holding out.
@spunicunifait2697 4 жыл бұрын
I always preferred matte screens over glossy. How is the antiglare coating on this new one?
@bbvs2476 4 жыл бұрын
Can anyone tell me if it’s more worth to get a 15’ 2018 entry level MacBook Pro or the new 2020 entry level 13’ MacBook Pro when it comes out?
@the0000alex0000 4 жыл бұрын
I love how all apple products becomes so practical right after Jony Ive left.
@halo12345678ful 2 жыл бұрын
“ it’s not going anywhere “ aged like milk
@linesofskies6832 2 жыл бұрын
that expires in 3 days in the fridge hehe
@Log1cTech 4 жыл бұрын
great review dieter
@aguzman9487 4 жыл бұрын
Good honest review - as a non 'pro' user I was hoping for this to be a casual play platform. I guess with good internet it still could be.
@alvzcizzler 4 жыл бұрын
Hopefully they will improve the webcam since they improved the mics and they add FaceID.
@nithinravi4401 4 жыл бұрын
Good review !!
@shareen918 4 жыл бұрын
7:35 no matter how i turn my iphone its stereo Speakers just dont sync according to the video.
@vaibhavjain4317 4 жыл бұрын
I’m waiting for 10th gen intel processors which would improve performance and thermals. It will also increase battery life.
@erfelipe 4 жыл бұрын
I have a Air from 2017 with 'works' keyboard. And I will wait for next generation of 13" Pro, without butterfly keyboard problems like this 16" model.
@littleacorn6385 4 жыл бұрын
I am new to Apple , but I love the Tool bar” I use it all the time!
@lukaskahwesmith6509 4 жыл бұрын
the weird thing is since the entire butterfly keyboard thing, the only thing that had be locked into the Apple eco-system was my iPad .. which is why I got another iPhone .. and this is why I am not waiting for the 13” mbp update.
@eternalwanderer3785 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I kept my Macbook Pro 2014.. makes me feel like it's only a generation behind in design
@jarofjuice 4 жыл бұрын
Coming from a 13” 2013 MacBook Pro, this will definitely be the upgrade!
@bouathongphoumsayasy3226 4 жыл бұрын
Kinan Jarjous sane here just upgraded to this from the MacBook 13” 2013.
@mtiphotography 3 жыл бұрын
I love my fully spec'd MacBook Pro 16". Yes it does get hot, but honestly, I don't use it on my lap. It's on a stand. Speakers are outstanding and I came from a 15" 2015 MacBook Pro and it's identical in size and thickness.
@amirshayanmoghtaderi5840 3 жыл бұрын
and now after wwdc I'm still waiting for the ARM models..is anyone knows when apple introducing the first 16 inch MacBook pro with ARM chipset ??
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