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The Macintosh LC

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7 жыл бұрын

One of Apple's biggest hits was this affordable color Macintosh. This video shows the origins, release, and technical details of the first LC Mac. The video then comes to a rather catastrophic end.

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@paulmuaddib451
@paulmuaddib451 2 жыл бұрын
Just to let you know, your videos help with grief. My wife, of 18 years, passed away last Thursday, and watching this video in particular, relaxed me before bed, even though I know I won't actually sleep.
@65scribe
@65scribe 2 жыл бұрын
Heart breaking to hear about your loss. There’s no easy way to deal with that. I’m glad that something so small as my video can bring you some comfort. Take care of yourself, Paul.
@KingSlimjeezy
@KingSlimjeezy 3 ай бұрын
im here because of grief too. Its comforting. Sorry for your loss
@prodfauxes
@prodfauxes 4 жыл бұрын
These videos are truly comedy gold
@65scribe
@65scribe 4 жыл бұрын
Beats By Fauxes Thank you!!
@MEATYOKERRable
@MEATYOKERRable 4 жыл бұрын
That little girl is watching this right now.... cringing..... and praying her kids never find it.
@4FrameMusic
@4FrameMusic 7 жыл бұрын
Man, your videos are a.maazing. Please keep on making more of these kind of videos. Your style, sense of humor, and knowledge of each product's history makes these videos so great to watch!! This didn't even feel like 20 minutes; it felt like a 5 minute video! Seriously, great work. Big fan.
@65scribe
@65scribe 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback! It's good to know people didn't get bored with the technical details.
@krz8888888
@krz8888888 Жыл бұрын
6 years later wanted to comment the same thing, wow!
@buttguy
@buttguy 7 жыл бұрын
These are hands down some of the best historical review style videos i've seen on KZfaq, and that's pretty much all I watch on here. Eagerly awaiting the next video! These are more watchable than those made by some KZfaqrs with half a million subscribers! Keep it up!
@65scribe
@65scribe 7 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate the feedback. Although I like making these videos, it really makes it worthwhile to hear that people are enjoying them. I'm already working on the next one. Thanks!
@alistairholt
@alistairholt 4 жыл бұрын
That ending 😂 The LCIII was my first home computer. I dread to think how many hours I spent on that thing. Popping the tabs on the back to lift the cover and look inside was always cool.
@CZ350tuner
@CZ350tuner 6 жыл бұрын
I have an old LC here with the full 10 M.Bytes of RAM and Ethernet card running OS 7.1. It sits idle in the corner of my room as a nostalgia piece, as memories of sitting in the university computer room a 4 AM banging away on a keyboard of an LC / LC II / LC III / LC 475 or Quadra 660 as a mature micro electronics and computing undergraduate in the mid 1990's (I was in my early 30's back then). Needless to say as engineers we had to be familiar with using Macintosh, PC and Sun so our work bounced around using all of them. PC for ECAD and circuit emulation, Mac for written work and Sun for FPGA building. This resulted in also having Mac and PC at home for work. I've had the LC, LC 475 and Quadra 660. I tend to horde old computers and still have my ZX80, ZX81 and Spectrums. When the power supply fell over on the LC I used the one out of my dead LC 475. Compared to the 1989 Compaq Deskpro 386s (80387 maths coprocessor, RLL HD, 4 M.Bytes of RAM modules) that it also sat next to at the time at home, the PC was more useful to an engineer for practical work than the LC, despite the latter having more memory. In the UK software support for the Mac LC was poor, not just games but engineering packages and compilers. Old PCs can also be retasked and adapted, something the LC cannot do.
@65scribe
@65scribe 6 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! Great to hear some first hand experience from back in the day. Thanks for sharing that.
@bwc1976
@bwc1976 9 ай бұрын
660AV? Those things were amazing. I think the non-AV version was called the 650? My university library had a bunch of Centris 650's which I loved.
@null_carrier
@null_carrier 6 жыл бұрын
"Don't copy that Floppy!" High quality editainment content that I subscibed for. Keep them commin, good sir.
@RedbaronYo82
@RedbaronYo82 5 жыл бұрын
This video takes me back to my Aunt giving me her complete LC setup in 1995 after she bought a newer model. Used it almost daily through 2000.
@defaultroute
@defaultroute 3 жыл бұрын
I watch your stuff on loop sometimes. It's like hedonistic timeless nostalgia. Your comedy chops are perfect and the catchphrase "Damn" gets a smile every-time. Can't thank you enough for doing these. Really, this means a lot tot he community.
@65scribe
@65scribe 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate you saying that. That’s great to hear that the videos have such a positive effect. It really is a fun community to be part of, so I’m glad I can contribute in a way that reflects that.
@danieldaniels7571
@danieldaniels7571 4 жыл бұрын
I bought an Apple LC in 2001 for a few bucks at a thrift store. Set it up and put it on my home network for a couple years. It was a fun toy I used mostly for old games and photo editing.
@65scribe
@65scribe 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing that. Amazing what you can get out of these old computers second-hand.
@bp2k7
@bp2k7 2 жыл бұрын
My parents got me one of these brand new when I was in 1st grade, along with a HP DeskWriter C. Crazy to think how much that cost when adjusted for inflation. So many hours spent playing around with Kid Pix, Number Maze (black and white, no color!), Midnight Rescue!, and New Math Blaster Plus! We eventually upgraded to a Performa 6115CD after a few years, and the CD-ROM and AOL era began! Great memories!
@65scribe
@65scribe 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting to hear your personal experience with the LC and 6115CD. Thanks for sharing that!
@bp2k7
@bp2k7 2 жыл бұрын
@@65scribe typing that out made me feel super old, but I’m so glad that I came of age during this era of computing. Every year of technological advancement during this period seemed like an amazing leap forward into the future!
@65scribe
@65scribe 2 жыл бұрын
@@bp2k7 Don’t feel old - I was 22 when the LC was released! But I agree… it was an amazing time to experience.
@gunit6815
@gunit6815 4 жыл бұрын
Back in school we had Apple II and IIGS and then once those were retired our computer lab in school was upgraded to the Macintosh LC475
@osgeld
@osgeld 4 жыл бұрын
18:10 I had a LC2 for a while the last few years, and just for fun I used a solder sucker on that empty spot next to the cpu, dropped in a socket and an appropriate math co-processor and it works without wasting time with the PDS slot
@thecianinator
@thecianinator 4 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for that "welcome to the end of the computer age" and you did not disappoint lmao
@Raintiger88
@Raintiger88 2 жыл бұрын
The LC was the first computer I bought myself. Some fond memories. . .thanks.
@65scribe
@65scribe 2 жыл бұрын
No problem. I'm glad the video brought back some good memories.
@laowhy86
@laowhy86 7 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. Consider changing your channel name, your videos are amazing, and you deserve better branding.
@65scribe
@65scribe 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your support and advice! My 13 year old son agrees and says I should call it, "My Son has More Subscribers than Me", but I don't think that's any better. Definitely am considering the name change, though.
@antigen4
@antigen4 6 жыл бұрын
what the hell do you know? might be very relevant for them ...
@tomdrives
@tomdrives 5 жыл бұрын
I didn't know you liked old Macs!
@Gmoney6422
@Gmoney6422 3 жыл бұрын
damn, never thought I'd see you here c-milk.
@lumpython5351
@lumpython5351 3 жыл бұрын
Aren’t you Missing back the time when apple computers assembly in the USA? unlike now everything are made in the country that you spread most hate speech of, China!
@richardthunderbay8364
@richardthunderbay8364 Жыл бұрын
The LC was the first Mac that I ever used. I used it as a postdoctoral fellow starting in 1991. The model that I had was upgraded with 4 MB of RAM. I really enjoyed using it as part of my research. It led to me purchasing a Mac for home use.
@65scribe
@65scribe Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing that, Richard. I like reading those personal experiences.
@ericwood3709
@ericwood3709 4 жыл бұрын
I like how Apple purportedly tries to make their products environmentally friendly while also deliberately forcing their customers to buy new products sooner than should have to based on the actual hardware performance and capabilities of the products.
@65scribe
@65scribe 4 жыл бұрын
Lol. Excellent point!
@z00h
@z00h 4 жыл бұрын
Didn't you get the memo? 12:54 "and hayily recyckleablea ull dat buetiful aluminuimum und glasssssssssss"
@lookoutforchris
@lookoutforchris 3 жыл бұрын
Force? I guess I didn’t get the memo, my main home computer is a 2012 MBP. It is getting long in the tooth but 8 years is an exceptional run. My CAD workstation is newer but still no spring chicken...
@65scribe
@65scribe 3 жыл бұрын
Mac hardware build quality and OS stability make it possible to run a Mac for a couple decades. The thing preventing that is Apple stops supporting it with software updates. Alternative browser Tenfourfox will let you watch KZfaq and surf other current websites with a G4 but a MacPro running Snow Leopard is almost totally unusable on Safari. Forced obsolescence. The result is people throwing out their older computers and buying new ones. Better for Apple but not the environment.
@ericwood3709
@ericwood3709 3 жыл бұрын
@@65scribe In my experience, even a top model G5 can't play KZfaq very well these days, and G4s are hopeless. But to be fair, those systems are now 15+ years old, and a PC of similar vintage would likewise struggle even with compatible software. That includes the unofficial Intel build of TenFourFox on a 2006 Intel Mac, of course.
@CassandraCarter
@CassandraCarter 7 жыл бұрын
Holy crap, just found this channel. Loving this vid. :) The selection of clips is just great.
@65scribe
@65scribe 7 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you found the channel. Thanks for the comment!
@the_master_of_beans
@the_master_of_beans 3 жыл бұрын
That "Don't Copy That Floppy!" was the most 90's thing I've ever seen.
@lschatz5670
@lschatz5670 6 жыл бұрын
I was on the fence about this video but started cracking up when you spoke to Brianna, thanks for the laughs! Keep up the great work! Ok, about died when getting to the "don't copy that floppy" section and am now wondering why you have so few subscribers... You deserve more, many many more. *clicks subscribe*
@65scribe
@65scribe 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the detailed review! Glad the video won you over.
@SuperMoleRetro
@SuperMoleRetro 7 жыл бұрын
You deserve a heck of a lot more subs. You make fantastic videos.
@65scribe
@65scribe 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!! I'm playing to a fairly small community, so I'm glad to get as much interest as I do.
@bartenationalbart-email-na3284
@bartenationalbart-email-na3284 7 жыл бұрын
There used to be a user group in Cincinnati back then called "The Applesiders" before you could go to a Apple store. So if you had a question you had to go to them. People used to write programs for these early macs. It was a fervent user base. A small community but very loyal.
@joele.9110
@joele.9110 4 жыл бұрын
Wow what a trip down memory lane, thanks for making this! Elsie was my very first computer.
@65scribe
@65scribe 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. I'm happy to hear you enjoyed the look back, Joel!
@SNARC15
@SNARC15 5 жыл бұрын
"Low Cost" yet still nearly $2,500. Apple never changes.
@aeonjoey3d
@aeonjoey3d 4 жыл бұрын
>.< pro tip: people don't reply because this is too stupid to reply to.
@NazmiFR
@NazmiFR 4 жыл бұрын
Let me add my two cents then @aeonjoey An amiga 2000 or fair PC Compatible would have cost you 1k less for comparable performance, more software, more colors and almost the same functionality. Almost because apple was ahead when it came to graphics and printing (or so I have heard as I wasn't alive back then). Still that's a lot of money for a typewriter/printing press, just as an ibook today is a lot of money for a "facebook & youtube machine" Though, to be fair, if I was there back then, I'd have bought an amiga 3000 or 4000. When you see that some people still use them today, that says a lot. What would have been your 90's computer people?
@NiGHTSnoob
@NiGHTSnoob 4 жыл бұрын
​@@NazmiFR Early 90's? I had an IBM PS/1 with a 386, and mid 90's an IBM Aptiva with a Pentium 1 because my father was a mechanical engineer and occasionally did work from home. To be fair the Aptiva did run him $3300 which is more expensive than the Mac LC was when it launched, however it also wasn't a Low Cost reworking it was far closer to the top end at the time Back then people liked to crap on DOS/Win 95 machines as being boring and for spreadsheets, but I dunno, Doom and Twinsen's Adventure kicked ass and that was all I really cared about. I definitely think the Amiga would have been the preferable machine in the late 80's, but from around 93 onward the PC compatible just started killing it so I'm glad I had what I had. On the Apple side of things I really do not see the appeal of any of their products between the Apple II and the Mac G3 series. The entire Apple II line is super modification friendly and it hit at just the right time initially even if I personally think the C64 is an overall better experience to try and use personally (though 80's micros aren't my forte in general), but everything after that just seemed really expensive and tremendously under powered, and, to be frank, despite what people say the OS was horrendous for years. I still don't like OSX but it's stable and secure, and I can definitely see the appeal, but they had a complete trainwreck on their hands for years there.
@timothygibney5656
@timothygibney5656 4 жыл бұрын
@@NazmiFR Not from what I remember. This is was 1990. Sure you can go to a computer shopper magazine and order a barebones 8086 cpu and build something around $1000 from a 1978 CPU (still HEAVILY IN USE) that was 12 years old and green monochrome screen or maybe a 4 color CGA card or a 286 if you were lucky. To get a 60830 cpu performance you would need at least a 386 and a VGA card to match this and a nice monitor you would be looking at $3500 easily. Maybe $3000. I am not Apple fanboy but having cheap electronics today spoils the best of us :-)
@DavidB-rx3km
@DavidB-rx3km 4 жыл бұрын
I had a 16 bit Amiga with 4096 colours and 16 bit four channel stereo sound that cost £400.
@jblyon2
@jblyon2 4 жыл бұрын
My elementary school had a ton of these. If you were real lucky you got one of the few LC III's which could run a newer version of Kids Typing.
@65scribe
@65scribe 4 жыл бұрын
Great recall! Thanks for sharing that.
@johnmerryman1825
@johnmerryman1825 2 жыл бұрын
This was my first Mac. I remember lusting after the Mac II but seeing the crazy price list, I was discouraged. The LC was a great package at the time. I upgraded the RAM, hard drive, VRAM, and added a video spigot video digitizer card.
@65scribe
@65scribe 2 жыл бұрын
That's interesting, John! A classic example of a Mac user squeezing every bit of capability out of the Mac.
@enzoperruccio
@enzoperruccio 4 жыл бұрын
This video was uploaded in 2017, but it looks as if it was made in 2009 with movie maker lol.
@imark7777777
@imark7777777 4 жыл бұрын
Or 2020
@MightyRob1
@MightyRob1 3 жыл бұрын
Snow Leopard, to me, is like the iPhone 4. The classic that was my first Apple product and I feel set the bar for all others to follow. Snow Leopard was beautiful to look at, advanced, ran very well, and just was 'nice'. The 'eye candy' of OS X SL, coming from Windows, was just glorious. It will always be my favorite.
@sneakyfox4651
@sneakyfox4651 3 жыл бұрын
Right now I am watching this video (in Firefox) on my battered but very stable 13''MacBook Pro still running SnowLeo. I have tried newer OS's but I hate their Finder window handling. However, eventually I'll have to move on, not least because I plan to buy the next version of the MacBook Pro when it comes out, and I'm also preparing a 1 TB SSD with three OS's for the MBP 2010; SnowLeo, Mavericks, and High Sierra. Tripple boot from one disc. Yay!
@Leofwine
@Leofwine Жыл бұрын
I switched to Mac just before Snow Leopard was released, so I experienced Leopard for the first few months. And yeah, I think Snow Leopard was better.
@ryballs4569
@ryballs4569 3 жыл бұрын
This is the best video I have ever watched on youtube
@65scribe
@65scribe 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much! I’m glad to hear that you liked it THAT much. “Stay tuned” for more.
@rwdplz1
@rwdplz1 4 жыл бұрын
The capacitors in the LC power supply are all oddly sized and have some weird capacitance values, I had to special order most of them from Mouser.
@65scribe
@65scribe 4 жыл бұрын
rwdplz1 Good information! Thanks!
@motomike71
@motomike71 6 ай бұрын
Ah, the Mac that was designed by people who moonlighted delivering pizza.
@wutzerface77
@wutzerface77 7 жыл бұрын
make a video on the Mac Color Classic! actually... just make another video! i'm dyin over here
@65scribe
@65scribe 7 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you're enjoying the videos. I like making the videos, just it doesn't pay the bills, so I work on them when I can. I do have one in the works, but not the Color Classic (yet).
@Wouter395
@Wouter395 7 жыл бұрын
I'm happy I found your channel. These old mac video's are awesome to watch!
@65scribe
@65scribe 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad you found the channel, too!
@marciomaiajr
@marciomaiajr 3 жыл бұрын
Always come back to watch this video. Love the editing and jokes.
@65scribe
@65scribe 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for coming back, Marcio! Good to hear the video has replay value.
@bayareanewman1566
@bayareanewman1566 4 жыл бұрын
I love the humor!! This is a gold of a find of a video!! Thank you for making this!
@65scribe
@65scribe 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, Brian. I'm glad to hear you enjoyed watching it.
@raskolnikov9067
@raskolnikov9067 7 жыл бұрын
Shareware on System 7... so many memories. Often they worked, often they froze the Mac. I feel like setting up my old PowerMac and dig up my old CD´s and floppies with share and freeware, just for old times sake.
@65scribe
@65scribe 7 жыл бұрын
Glad I could inspire a little nostalgia.
@ben1777
@ben1777 2 жыл бұрын
This is wonderful. I am so glad you included the don't copy that floppy references!
@65scribe
@65scribe 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ben!
@anonymouspepper2012
@anonymouspepper2012 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! That ending was amazing!
@65scribe
@65scribe 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much! This was the first time, but not the last, that I brought “AI” into my videos.
@AlexCBrandon
@AlexCBrandon 3 жыл бұрын
Thoroughly enjoyable information. And your inclusion of Orson Welles added fun amusement!
@65scribe
@65scribe 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Alexander! And again, good ear.
@Zestypanda
@Zestypanda 7 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Keep it up. Looking forward to what you have planned next.
@samguapo4573
@samguapo4573 4 жыл бұрын
I love the design of this computer :)
@askhowiknow5527
@askhowiknow5527 7 жыл бұрын
I just happened to click on this video and I love your style.
@davidwildish1627
@davidwildish1627 6 жыл бұрын
My Parents bought one of these when I was a kid, I used to spend hours in Claris works making geometric spaceships.
@65scribe
@65scribe 6 жыл бұрын
Great memory. Thanks for sharing!
@helianthropy
@helianthropy 4 жыл бұрын
I loved making drawings in ClarisWorks. I still have some today…
@georgemaragos2378
@georgemaragos2378 4 жыл бұрын
Nice group of videos I have to confess i was a C64 then Amiga then Dos person at the time A big rivalry between the C64 and Apple 2 then Amiga and Macintosh / 2GS At work we had dumb terminals, but later on about 4 x 286 NEC's ( yeah that was 4pc's to about 60 people ) I later moved to another section and found Mac SE and SE30 that wrote on IBM PC floppy, that section had 1 mac per 4 or 5 people, a table set of 4/5/6 had a spare unoccupied desk with a Macintosh for Word / Excel all set up on apple talk and all connected to printers - Very high tech for say 1990 At home my first apple products was in @ 1997-1998 the kids were in school and primary school mad the first colour Imacs, so i caved in and bough a older MacII ( dont laugh Ebay or trading post $25 AU ) about 3 months later i bought a 5year old All in one LC 520 ( Ebay @ 40 AU ) i think it had a external zip drive as well. Both machines were in excellent condition, the MACIi came with original paperwork and books and disks , the owner paid almost $4,000 AU for the set up he was a engineer or architect, his family sold it off. The LC520 was a ex lease computer bought by a family, kept for a few years then sold to buy another replacement. I had both macs for about 3 to 4 years, they ended up in the spare room then the "shoe cupboard" - i was nagged to take them to the tip and dispose them even though they were 100% fine and both monitors were crystal sharp , this was the new era of Y2k and 1 x Pentium 4 Win XP machine and a 56k dial up modem should be plenty for 5 people Also same time, my personal cupboard was raided and 2 x C64 and 2 x Amiga 512 and all the floppies were given to charity lady - i know it is a good cause, but i was very Pi@#%$@#% that my wife done it, even worse when i found out they were sold at $10 each , i would have rather given them $50 Happy Wife Happy Life apparently i am told Oh, Erin at about 5:10 looks like a cindy brady clone Regards George
@65scribe
@65scribe 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your recollections, George! Interesting reading that. Sad story, but I hope you retained something. Oh, and Erin... Lol!
@tenthconcept
@tenthconcept 4 жыл бұрын
When that guy started dancing, and rapping, I just about lost it all. 😀😅🤣
@WilliamHostman
@WilliamHostman 4 жыл бұрын
If you're not over 60, you were in school before Oregon Trail was released. I was playing it at school before 1980... the first edition was 1971 for a mainframe, went public in 1975 on an educational time-share mainframe, and was 1978 release by MECC for the Apple II line.
@65scribe
@65scribe 4 жыл бұрын
Good info William, thanks for that! I was in Grade 6 in 1980, so in theory, you're right. When I was in public school, they had one computer, a Commodore PET. I was in high school by the time they were outfitted with a dozen Apple IIe's in the library. Oregon Trail might have been less prevalent in Canada as well. Regardless, I missed out on the nostalgia in later years.
@samuelschwager
@samuelschwager 4 жыл бұрын
The LC III was my first computer. Fond memories.
@Cyber_Horse_Studios87
@Cyber_Horse_Studios87 Жыл бұрын
Honestly out of all the models, the LCIII is my favorite. Mainly cause it is the first classic Mac I ever owned.
@aborne
@aborne 4 күн бұрын
Fantastic video. I love watching these!
@65scribe
@65scribe 4 күн бұрын
Thanks very much!
@daniluzzu
@daniluzzu 3 жыл бұрын
The LC was my first Mac ever. I have lots of fun memories of when I had it. It was slow as hell, even for its time. It's a very rare case of a computer that was already too slow at the time of its launch.
@65scribe
@65scribe 3 жыл бұрын
That’s interesting to read some first-hand experience. Thanks!
@djhaloeight
@djhaloeight 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a couple LC’s under my bed from a vintage Macintosh buying spree years ago. They all need to be recapped. I have an LCIII+ that was recapped and loaded with 36 megs RAM, 160MB HD, and ethernet card. Sadly it was fried during a power outage, along with the matching monitor. I’ve been on the lookout for a Quadra 605. Back in 6th, 7th, and 8th grades (93-95) I was the computer teachers helper and helped unbox and set up 2 labs worth of brand new LCII/IIIs and LC 520s. Appletalked them all together, with a file server and shared printer. I had Finder access while all the other kids had to use At Ease 😄 Needless to say these pizza box Macs are close to my heart, being the first computers I really learned inside and out.
@65scribe
@65scribe 4 жыл бұрын
Great story from LC history. Thanks for sharing that. Too bad about your LCIII+. I don't think those had the '+' on the front , did they? Just LCIII?
@djhaloeight
@djhaloeight 4 жыл бұрын
65scribe just said LC III on the front. they were just speed bumped from 25MHz to 33MHz. you can do it to a regular LCIII by moving a resistor, but i can’t remember which offhand. loving your channel btw! my current working vintage mac is a 7500/100 with a 350MHz sonnet G3 upgrade card. also has video input on it too. i had it networked with appletalk to my LCIII before it bit the dust. i’m actually hoping it’s just a bad power supply on the LC. i need to do some more investigating. keep it up!
@orglarovin
@orglarovin 4 жыл бұрын
Very well done and well narrated docu! Bravo!
@65scribe
@65scribe 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much for the feedback!
@roytofilovski9530
@roytofilovski9530 Жыл бұрын
That is a very sharp looking machine. The form factor is excellent imho.
@macce77
@macce77 7 жыл бұрын
These videos are really interesting. Keep it up !
@Pinwormx
@Pinwormx 4 жыл бұрын
in 1993, Macintosh LC with the monitor and printer was around $1000 at Montgomery Ward. I even remember the mailed advertisement and my dad wanting to get me it as a graduation present.
@65scribe
@65scribe 4 жыл бұрын
'Montgomery Ward'.. that's going back, but $1000 sounds about right for an LC with monitor in 1993. Thanks for sharing that memory!
@ghostmouthzach56
@ghostmouthzach56 4 жыл бұрын
Your videos are so underrated man. You have a unique brand of humor and these videos are so entertaining.
@65scribe
@65scribe 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that! Especially good to hear "unique", instead of, "Is this a second channel of [insert popular tech youtuber here] ?" :)
@ghostmouthzach56
@ghostmouthzach56 4 жыл бұрын
@@65scribe Seriously, it's refreshing to see. Love the style, love the running jokes, and your take on these old systems. One of the few things that has gotten an honest chuckle from me in awhile. Thanks for doing what you do, man!
@BreakingPintMedia
@BreakingPintMedia Жыл бұрын
Let's crowdfund a full-length horror film featuring DP
@NikkiWrightVGM
@NikkiWrightVGM 4 жыл бұрын
Still using 10.6.8 Snow Leopard here ^.^ I love the glossy look with the computer-centric vibes (as opposed to everything being about the damn phone) I've got iTunes 8 and Adobe CS5 running on it and aside from browser issues here and there I have no complaints using it as my daily driver!
@65scribe
@65scribe 4 жыл бұрын
That's good to hear, Nikki. I completely agree.
@oldapplegeek7944
@oldapplegeek7944 7 жыл бұрын
The Macintosh LC Is one of my favorite vintage apple products. I wish i had a collection of vintage apple computers...
@oldapplegeek7944
@oldapplegeek7944 7 жыл бұрын
but i will have one probably by 2018.
@Mastergeko4
@Mastergeko4 5 жыл бұрын
@@oldapplegeek7944 Do I know you from somewhere?
@chrisw443
@chrisw443 4 жыл бұрын
This was in my kindergarten class 3 years later in 95. It made me a mac fan for my life.
@frankiii9165
@frankiii9165 3 жыл бұрын
I'm still a complete laggard, I'm watching this with an early 2006 iMac running, you guessed it Mr. Craig Federighi, Snow Leopard! ;-)
@sushimamba4281
@sushimamba4281 3 жыл бұрын
Snow Leopard was so stable!
@blooder81
@blooder81 7 жыл бұрын
i have one from a trade a few months ago did come system 7.0.1 and upgrade from 4mb to 10mb. the previous owner did recap the board. but did have issues with psu leaking caps and could only power up if i applied heat from hair dryer to the caps.and today i did wash the psu to remove most of leaked and now powers up well but i did buy new caps (3x10v 1000mf, 3x270mf 35v and 1x47mf 25v but no 56mf)
@anterpants
@anterpants 2 жыл бұрын
I remember buying a processor upgrade for my PC. It claimed something about a higher MHz internal processing and same MHz external processing. I can only assume bus speed was the reason for the latter rating. It's been so long, I was like 11 or 12 years old. I was also programming in HyperCard at that age.
@65scribe
@65scribe 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I think you're right about the bus speed. Also, Hypercard was an influence for the world wide web, so you couldn't do much better than that for introductory programming.
@anterpants
@anterpants 2 жыл бұрын
@@65scribe by pc I meant Mac lc
@bwc1976
@bwc1976 9 ай бұрын
HyperCard was amazing! I wish I could have had a Mac back when that was in active use. They should have kept it going longer.
@lawrencedoliveiro9104
@lawrencedoliveiro9104 4 жыл бұрын
8:04 The LC video could work at 640×480 too, if you wanted to connect it to a suitable monitor. It just dropped back to a lower colour pixel depth.
@psycho0815
@psycho0815 7 жыл бұрын
That brought up memories... Had one of these and compared to my Amiga 1200 with 32megs, the 68040@50MHz and 600MB HDD it was just shit... And that pile of junk was anything but cheap compared to my 1200 including all the addons.
@dbranconnier1977
@dbranconnier1977 5 жыл бұрын
The Macintosh LC was a very slow machine. Apple deliberately crippled the LC by making the data bus 16 bits wide when it had a 32 bit processor. Amiga should have crushed Apple but Commodore's Marketing Dept. and Management were inept. Once Commodore lost Jack Tramiel, they were doomed. If Steve Jobs wouldn't have returned to Apple, they'd be a footnote in computing history today.
@JasonStevens
@JasonStevens 4 жыл бұрын
@ungratefulmetalpansy Yeah, look at the Amiga 600. Yet another 68000? Even the 2000?! Commodore had all it's eggs in the CD-32, which was too little far too late, the whole AGA "advantage" was long gone, especially compared to the PS1. And that idiotic XOR patent shakedown shook them out of business as they couldn't afford the patent troll.
@pentiummmx2294
@pentiummmx2294 4 жыл бұрын
I have a Macintosh LC III and a Performa 405, the LC III works fine, i already replaced capacitors and cleaned the logic board, has 36 mb ram, SCSI2SD (i installed that in there since there was no HDD in it), and System 7.5.5 installed on it. the Performa 405 unlike the LC III is unfortunately beyond repair after the PRAM battery has leaked all over the board. and it's one of those red Maxell batteries that was in it. I just use it for a parts machine. I eventually got a Mac LC II to replace the Performa 405 and also recapped and cleaned the logic board, the simms from the performa board surprisingly worked fine, it's 4 mb (2x 2mb 30 pin simms) (shows as 8 mb cause of the onboard 4 mb ram).
@65scribe
@65scribe 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting! That's a great restoration story.
@OfficialWrightsCSApps
@OfficialWrightsCSApps 4 жыл бұрын
The LCII was my first computer!
@RasVoja
@RasVoja Жыл бұрын
Very stylish m68k colour Mac!
@dvamateur
@dvamateur 4 жыл бұрын
To me, Macintosh is 2 things: 1) Avid Media Composer. 2) Digidesign ProTools. That's it. For the rest, there's Atari ST.
@SixtyforceYTP
@SixtyforceYTP 7 жыл бұрын
Well that was a uh... Shocking ending to say the least. (No pun intended).
@ww21943
@ww21943 4 жыл бұрын
“He’s says I saved his life, which I’m not even sure I did and my reward is dinner and dancing at Taco Bell? “
@moow950
@moow950 5 жыл бұрын
Spindler was a disaster!!! That presentation was awful and cringy. The LC was really a rip off indeed. $2,499 for a handicapped Mac II in 1990 (that's $4,897 in today's money!!!)
@65scribe
@65scribe 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed, it took Gil Amelio and then Steve Jobs about 10 years to recover from Spindler's mis-management of Apple Computer.
@lawrencedoliveiro9104
@lawrencedoliveiro9104 4 жыл бұрын
It was a bit more capable than a Mac II: beyond-8-bit graphics, 32-bit clean ROM, built-in audio in. Yeah, I had one at home. And a Mac II at work. So I knew the difference.
@Nomoreidsleft
@Nomoreidsleft 4 жыл бұрын
Apple anything is ridiculously expensive. I bet their profit margin is like 1000% or more.
@infinitecanadian
@infinitecanadian Жыл бұрын
Everyone ran towards the few color computers in the computer lab when it was opened. Everyone else got the black-and-white computers. This was in the early 1990s in Abbotsford, British Columbia, Canada.
@lehmannwms
@lehmannwms Жыл бұрын
I remember when our school got these then kept getting a bunch of LCIII and LC475!
@joelang6126
@joelang6126 2 жыл бұрын
My school had a dual floppy LC and a single drive LC. One was black and white I think. They were always broken lol.
@tsal4379
@tsal4379 4 жыл бұрын
I had an LC ii back in 92 or 93.. my first computer.. also bought a modem and a CDROM.. CD Rom cost my dad over 1000 bux lol
@65scribe
@65scribe 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. At least he didn't buy into laserdisc.
@tsal4379
@tsal4379 4 жыл бұрын
@@65scribe my dad had a lasetdisk player lol. for the time it was bad assery++ he bought one at an expo show
@ericwood3709
@ericwood3709 4 жыл бұрын
My first Mac right there.
@alarak2159
@alarak2159 4 жыл бұрын
That ending was golden.
@hellion9547
@hellion9547 3 жыл бұрын
4:55 Those kids... Let's say they were 10 years old when that was recorded. That would mean they are in their 40's now, probably with their own family and some of them MIGHT even be grandparents (unlikely but possible, I guess...).
@dbtx
@dbtx 4 жыл бұрын
Around 1991 the middle school I wound up in had a bunch of Mac Classics or something very close. And I never heard of Oregon Trail. They all ran Wagon Train 1848 which makes me wonder if one was a bootleg or spinoff or rebranding of the other, and oh look the Macintosh Garden page has my answer: "Actually "Wagon Train 1848" was the first version of Oregon Trail of Apple's Macintosh computers. It was released at the same time as the Mac version of the Oregon Trail, but it was only available to schools. I was one of the Mac Developers on Wagon Train 1848/Oregon Trail. They shipped in 1990/1991. They were identical except for the fact that Wagon Train 1848 was designed to be networked with multiple computers and perfect for a school setting." So that's why it looked exactly the same as Oregon Trail in your video (except we never saw color). Years later, friends (who'd gone to different schools, of course) would talk about Oregon Trail so I just imagined it was probably a lot like Wagon Train which nobody knew about. Right. Okay. It's funny how I never felt like just searching for it.
@65scribe
@65scribe 4 жыл бұрын
That's funny, Rob. I didn't know about about the alternate titling either. Thanks for sharing that story.
@Thaleios
@Thaleios Жыл бұрын
Oh man that ending is like my worst nightmare! 😲
@alerey4363
@alerey4363 3 жыл бұрын
The venerable "pizza box" form factor of the LC series, great!
@lepidotos
@lepidotos 2 жыл бұрын
"Apple hopes to shake its image of being a manufacturer of high-priced computers with the introduction of three new Macintosh systems" Oh, how times have changed...
@chriselmsmusic
@chriselmsmusic 4 жыл бұрын
Hey! Your videos are great - I laughed more watching this video than Tom Segura's new Netflix comedy special! Keep it up! Chris (Chi-Chi's Scandinavia regional manager)
@65scribe
@65scribe 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! That's good to hear, thanks! Finally, someone who would appreciate a Chi-Chi's reference. :)
@stephanemignot100
@stephanemignot100 3 жыл бұрын
I'm waiting for a Mac version of the pistorm to bring my LC III back to life.
@maximilianosilva2888
@maximilianosilva2888 6 жыл бұрын
so much nostalgia from this Mac
@alexshepherd
@alexshepherd Жыл бұрын
The folks at work seem incredibly good-looking at 0:31 - it made me laugh when I saw the tallest guy getting looks from the others - but I suspect this photo might be from the 90s too :)
@geekcorerob
@geekcorerob 3 жыл бұрын
I remember playing the Oregon trail in 1980 something on an Apple II and a green monochrome screen.
@ronevry2664
@ronevry2664 4 жыл бұрын
As was said back then, "LC means 'Lack Chip'" referring to the missing math co-processor.
@65scribe
@65scribe 4 жыл бұрын
I think I remember that now that you mention it.
@sushimamba4281
@sushimamba4281 4 жыл бұрын
I thought it meant "Low Class"
@vintageMIDI
@vintageMIDI 3 жыл бұрын
I NEVER made floppy copies back in the day. *Bald-faced lie. Came for the Mac history lesson, watched twice for the humor. Looking forward to you next video.
@65scribe
@65scribe 3 жыл бұрын
That made me laugh. Thanks for commenting! And glad to hear you liked the video enough to watch it twice.
@lawrencedoliveiro9104
@lawrencedoliveiro9104 4 жыл бұрын
18:20 25MHz ’030 processor-a much more worthwhile upgrade. But I decided to replace my LC with one of the new “Centris” models which came out around the same time.
@helianthropy
@helianthropy 4 жыл бұрын
I’m so nostalgic about these older Macs that I have no memory of using (outside of possibly at school).
@sh1701-A
@sh1701-A Жыл бұрын
I had a LCII and I loved it.
@darvindillon8525
@darvindillon8525 3 жыл бұрын
18:24 you mentioned the LC 475, which I recently learned (and you probably already know) has three other names for same product. I'm interested in finding one (regardless if it's Performa 475/Performa 476/LC 475/Quadra 605). I want it because it can accept a 33MHz 68040 upgrade and it's the most powerful Mac that can use the Apple IIe card.
@65scribe
@65scribe 3 жыл бұрын
That’s an interesting point about the IIe card. The 475 I have is just an empty shell and the Quadra 605 is non-functional. I still have to look into that. I still have those little product spec cards from when I’d look at them in the stores, but never expected to own one.
@Masterofkarateandfriendship503
@Masterofkarateandfriendship503 4 жыл бұрын
This video is so entertaining!
@65scribe
@65scribe 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, sir!
@canal-xf5gs
@canal-xf5gs 5 жыл бұрын
When I was a kid, we did not have Oregon Trail, but we had LogoWriter (on apple 2), and then in sixth grade, HyperCard on Mac Pluses. A very funny video btw. :-)
@65scribe
@65scribe 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! That’s a great call back to early computers in education. My only exposure was a commodore PET in Grade 8 and we thought it was great.
@trentd9963
@trentd9963 7 жыл бұрын
dude keep uploading vids, your content is awesome!
@65scribe
@65scribe 7 жыл бұрын
I will. :) Thanks very much!
@whette_fahrtz
@whette_fahrtz 2 жыл бұрын
IT WAS REALLY NEAT!
@randywatson8347
@randywatson8347 4 жыл бұрын
Manchine has a very nice case and monitor design.
@audiodood
@audiodood 4 жыл бұрын
The history for this computer is interesting!
@65scribe
@65scribe 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback, Timmy!
@audiodood
@audiodood 4 жыл бұрын
@@65scribe Im gonna have to look for one of these now
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