And it all started with the A.G.B. from kentish town, highgate road.N.W.5

Spot on mate... Me kix.. Mr B.. Chrisy boy fighting hells angels at the age of 17...than on to the old Bailey..

To be fair, the so called"working class" has been inventing most of the musical genres for the last century...

And his basslines are really fun to play too - I learned bass copying him and Bruce Foxton.

One of the main factors in why Madness is so great.

They're all genius in their particular way, every member has contributed quite a lot. Barson incredibly gifted one and the driving force of the early days. But Bedders and Woody joining the Invaders was what made them take off after all. Love them as the collective that they are, but if I had to pick my favorite musician, it'd be Bedders as well!

​@dudeatx Foxton - another underrated bass man. The Jam were great in part down to their fantastic, tight rhythm section

Still got all ma vinals from the nutty boys

He was, Mike didn’t leave until the beginning of 1984.

In your 30s that means you were a child in the 80s. A teenager is really what you call a youth,so you should be in your 50s now.

So what i’m in my 30s, it doesn’t change the fact i still grew up listening to them and my family that got me into them still do as well...

@@Thenorthsace But you weren't a youth in the 80s you were a child. But I agree Madness are great.

What was grandda's name?

@@pauldunneskahis name is John grey . If you are You gotta look for articles ... if you can let me know if you find one :)

@@pauldunneska just one a side note it was pretty back in the day when Chas was probably not even in the band probably more when he was just starting up. I would contact my grandad if I could but he's a busy ass man 😅

@@xb.taylorx6030 When Madness were called the 'North London Invaders'.

Beth I'm 100% with your grandad and you I'm in my early 60's myself I completely understand what your grandad did, made things cheaper for us X

Dave Robinson I'll definitely put in for that.

Ooh bit harsh. Still plenty of hits to come. Wings Of A Dove, Yesterday's Men, Uncle Sam, One Better Day, The Sweetest Girl, Waiting For The Ghost Train...course I'm an Absolutely man BUT I think The Sweetest Girl is wonderful. My favourite Madness 12" mix.

Zelda Fitzgerald once Barson left they lost their way, he was the kingpin of the band.

@@davidsanderson5918 The Sweetest Girl is actually a cover version. Originally released by Scritti Politti in 1981

@@danielfisch389 for the life of me I have no idea why they released Sweetest Girl as a single, it’s a filler album track at best.

@@davidsanderson5918 I’m referring more to the post Keep Moving era releases. 1984 was when the band should have drawn a line under things. To have gone out on a high note with One Better Day or the edited down version of Victoria Gardens would have been a nice full stop for the band.

HEROES. Thanks to B.A.F.

Yup. The timing of the video was probably a victim of the label swap. Stiff own the video footage, but since Dave Robinson sold the band's songs to Virgin, they own the songs (ie the soundtrack) so it would need a deal between the two for Madness to issue the concert on their Lucky 7 label - assuming they'd be happy to release an archive concert that might outsell their recent output, with all the awkwardness that would cause. Also, by the time everybody got their cut, there wouldn't be much left for the band, so it's probably not worth it. Christ! Hadn't Monsieur Barso decided to leave by then? Nevertheless it would have been a great souvenir.

Mark Robinson Yes, mike left in early 84 once all the keep moving singles were out of the way. Also releasing a live video from 1983 would highlight how bad they are live now, I say that with no pleasure as a life long madness fan. This is probably the best documentary ever done about the band.

When I say bad I don’t mean awful, just tired and going through the motions, they play a lot slower now and Suggs literally talks the songs as opposed to singing them.

Never thought i’d see madness be compared to punk... they couldn’t stand punks 😂

Ur right.

I used to cut out the commercials, sitting right next to the vcr and scrambling to hit the button. But I did date the tape case, with 3/31/84 for this program. I also have the Madness appearance on Saturday Night Live from 4/14/84 that I haven't gotten around to pulling and posting yet. Hope you enjoyed and thanks for the input, much appreciated!

Primrose hill awesome

@@anniemous Hey, could you get around to it please?

@@anniemous Could you upload The Saturday Night appearance from 1984 please. I'm waiting 7 years now.

@@pauldunneska yikes, I'm sorry! moving currently and my plan is to dive back into the tapes when we're settled. that will be the first I look for.

Yes it is, it was released as a double A side

He still can

Zelda Fitzgerald and before the jazz hands lol

@@coventryscheekiestcharmer3985 so why does he need an autocue for most of the songs?

madness live today are crap compared to the 80s they sang the songs faster tighter and danced about the stage compare that to today’s madness they just seem like they going through the motions to get a pay check lol

@@haunteddeandollsuk it’s called getting old 🙄 where’s your loyalty man 😅

SJ Esau It will be stored away in a vault somewhere I'd guess. It's all tied up in performing rights and publishing issues I'm afraid. A real shame as this was madness at their peak live (83). Great sound and very tight on this tour.

I think they had better idea in doing madstock and the guided tour of madness. Why paying Rights when you can do better by yourself. They keep control of their own works that way. They are Madness

and the bands bully.

Steve Morgan He was a total bully, but most band has a driving force. He was just passionate definitely but yes a little ott at times!

@@stevemorgan6366 Not a bully at all. He pushed the band along especially in their early days without his drive there would have been no Madness.

@@tarantulagirl Somebody has to do the heavy lifting to push things forward. Call it bullying but if it's done for the common good,so be it.

@@stevemorgan6366 Be more wrong.

Paul Gambacinni

Madness Is All In The Mind kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mtlmiLegma3OYWQ.html

Madness (is all in the mind). From Rise & Fall

Brighton Centre March 1983

​@@ZeldaFitz Thank you!!

They were retrospectively called a ska band from the 90s onwards, they never were a ska band.

Carl who wrote the song was a big fan of the CSN song, so he stole the title from them.

Mrs.Hutchinson.

Vhs tape. Read the description.

Mrs Hutchinson

it was probably made in 1983, it aired on MTV early in 1984.

Wish.

Definitely 1983. Saw them February 83 and they looked like that...them and the show as well.

Why .he's great.

And lol

I think you mean affliction (infliction means they, Madness, are suffering from having a sax player inflict the pain on them... haha, suppose in some circumstances, bands do have members that cause that kind of pain). Curious what songs you think the sax is overdone? I can't think of any, but it might just be my taste. Regardless, starting as a Ska band and then evolving into their own sound, they wouldn't be the same--they wouldn't be Madness--without the sax. That's like criticizing a rock band for having lead guitar in every song or a chamber orchestra for having a violin in every song.

​@@HVDonkeyParkagree 👍

You wonder if people knew?