How Original.

@@rzn2258how original

Same here

judging by the comments i’ve seen on videos, pretty much nobody did. and with the reviews so high it’s hard to believe anyone picked up on it. feels obvious after tho.

@@BrewedCoffeeBean it's a magic trick

I don’t understand this. I knew right away, and then when it was revealed I was just like ok I was right. The movie was good but the big reveal just didn’t have a wow factor for me since I spotted him right away

@@rvnlvr0599you're too smart

And then, he also experienced being duplicated / transported during the demonstration to the financier. Every time Angier steps into the machine, he replayed both instances: when he remained in the the machine and shot the duplicate in haste, and when he got duplicated. That's why he always feared that which version would he be during each performance, even though he always gets duplicated - because HE EXPERIENCED BEING LEFT INSIDE THE MACHINE.

@@timothywong7280 he drowned himself that time as well. So 102 deaths at least plus his final death.

Typing while listeing, than having the point brought up. I hate when that happens, I usually just delete the entire comment.

Especially because the whole reason he went to Tesla in the first place was that he wanted the applause that the actor he’d hired to double him was getting.

In the end he convinced himself that he could be the new duplicate, a delusion that didn't come from Tesla or anywhere else. He went mad essentially.

it's never really certain that he dies in the trick, in our point of view, yes it's the one is the machine that dies and the transported one lives, but to him, the clones has the exect same memories and life as the original, so the clone will never know it wasn't the original, so as he says in the movie "he never knows if he will be the one getting the applause or the one drowning". You might say he confirms that the original stays in place and the copy transports, but in the scene where he shoots the copy we have no certainty that the one who got shot was in fact the copy or the original. For all we know the original might be the one constantly getting the applause

The dark knight

Watched Pressythingy lots of fine acting, but didn't think that much of the story. Nolan just can't have an everyday bad outcome in a relationship. Like Tenet, Interstellar or Inception the sci-fi element puts the characters out of normal earthly situations. While still trying to tell a human story about connection and/or loss. Tenet the bonds of friendship, Inception the bonds of love for a wife. Interstellar the bond of a parent to child. They are all broken and they all end, but they always end with a twist.

been very few great films in the 21st century - this one is certainly one of them, though

The best existential horror (borderline cosmic horror) movie of the new millennium (maybe)

Yea i watched this coz of Longman i fully agree wiv u both.

Agreed.

he sure is gay tho

Cutter is paid by Angier to add that sense of mystique he is in on Angiers final plans

Yes!

Facts

tis true but both are great

Deep Impact (1998) > Armageddon (1998) Mission To Mars (2000) > Red Planet (2000)

Btw both were twisted and awesome in unique manner.

Never got why there were two magic movies from the 1800's in 2006. Edward Norton, love him in Fight Club but he is kinda overrated now.

One other aspect of Angier's solution which I think is very ironic is that his version is not actually a magic trick any more. It is the real thing, and so much more than a magic trick as it could be of use in real life.

In the end he convinced himself that he could be the new duplicate, a delusion that didn't come from Tesla or anywhere else. He went mad essentially.

lol there are zero duplicates, pay attention

@@geert574try to explain it. Especially when he first demonstrates the trick to Cutter.

I read The prestige before the film was even made I think, and I would never have thought anybody could make a decent job of bringing it to film, but Nolan did. I'm sorry to learn that Christopher Priest recently died, especially as I recently read what will then probably remain his last entry, Airside, which I'm sorry to say left me utterly disappointed. However, I'd also recommend other books from his: The separation, The inverted world, The space machine and The dream archipelago. Although the short stories in that last one are of different quality, there are some which are amazing.

Speak for yourself;)

Classic Picard season 2 writer blunder 😄

Thank you

"They said you was hung!" "And they was right." Never fails to make me laugh.

so.. my portrait was hung... and accurage

I don't... remember... that one.

its to tell the audience the Bordens are not aware that Angier also has a twin, whereas Angier was on to Bordens secret right after the knot incident and the china man performance

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Given the time period, I wonder if it would have been equally difficult to keep disposing of the bodies; he would always have had to do it entirely by himself, no easy task, and employ a reliable method with a very low risk of discovery, since if just one duplicate was found it would mean disaster (so the disposal method would have to be either total, or a near zero chance of discovery, but the latter would likely mean going somewhere outdoors, eg. attaching weights and dumping in a deep lake). You're probably right though re the greater viual impact. Afterall, eventually he would run out of space with so many cubicles, and unless he was the only person involved in making the cubicles, surely someone would eventually ask why he kept ordering ever more of them.

This scene always left me with questions, but I kind of like its ambiguity. The film has many elements, but this one seems like true horror and reminds me of the tone of the first Alien.

He is not pretending to be rich. He was always using the name Angiers to try and become famous separate from his lordship.

Jesus, finally I found someone talking about this. That was my interpretation of the film and I was shocked of how unpopular of a theory this was, when in reality it's the most realistic one and surely more believable than the existence of a magic transportation machine. It seems like in the end Nolan really tricked almost all of the viewers. First let's make them believe there is a simple trick to the transportation, then make them think that the whole illusion was that there was no trick and the machine really works. I think making people believe that was the illusion itself, to let you believe something magical really occurred when in reality it's all explainable without having to deep into science-fiction. That's literally what an illusion consists of and ironically it seems like everybody fell for it in the end (given all the explanations and analysis people gave). I don't even know if Nolan did it on purpose. He certainly played a lot on that line between real and not real, without giving any conclusive explanation (something we see in all of his filmography by the way). It looks like he never wanted to give conclusive evidence that the machine worked, which is something he would do only if the machine didn't work in the first place but wanted make people believe it did (again, to literally illude the audience). I also can't wrap my head around the people that didn't understand everything we see may never took place. For as far as we know, each diary is full of lies and written only to trick the other magician. This basically means neither of them may have ever encountered Tesla in the first place, but wrote about him to trick the other one into thinking they did. Basically everything we see in the film is a narrative written to fit an illusion to make it look real to the other magician, and to us as well. I mean, every interpretation is valid, whether the Tesla machine is valid or not, but as I said i'm shocked of how unpopular this view is, despite it making the most sense from a logical standpoint and, as far as I know, not having any legit plot holes.

@@naky_6984 Well said and thank you for giving me a sanity check. Up to this point I was feeling as if I was the only person seeing it this way. I love that Nolan has movies that can be interpreted in different ways in an almost 'make your own ending' fashion, but from my side, the endings to this and Inception are clear as day. Again, thanks for the response and I agree wholeheartedly.

@@Siosal01 thank you as well, you managed to put into words what I had in my mind this whole time. I finally feel comforted knowing I'm not the only person who caught these things. Like you said, it really gives you a sanity check :)

Yeah. I didn't pay attention well enough myself. A lot of the movie was lost on me unfortunately. I will need to watch it again but if it requires intense thought then I need to read the book not watch the movie.

I don't think this interpretation is accurate though. He literally tells Borden at the end of the film that he never knew if he'd be the one in the tank or the one on the stage. Because of the seamless memory between the original that activates the machine and the clone that appears on the stage, he never truly understands how the machine works. From his perspective, he steps into the machine and it's a 50/50 chance if he ends up in the tank or on the stage.