We look at the ways the Mahler hammer is played, and how it fits in to the rest of Gustav Mahler's sixth symphony. Odd Quartet on Patreon: / oddquartet Odd Quartet store: odd-quartet-comics.myshopify.com
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@martinsdundurs94976 жыл бұрын
Why isn't sound of said hammer included in the video?
@namath30306 жыл бұрын
Mārtiņš Dundurs thought I’d get to hear an example of a Mahler Hammer. Oh well
@sherlock51414 жыл бұрын
Coz it is believed a tragedy is invited if you play hammers in Mahler
@tiberiusclaudiusnerogermanicis2 жыл бұрын
Copyright... mahler will probably sue.
@griffinfornell Жыл бұрын
Mahler himself was never happy with the sound of the hammer. Being ahead of his time as he was, he was probably envisioning a massive cinematic blow a la Hans Zimmer--which believe it or not, isn’t achieved by hitting a wood box with a hammer. It looks great though
@uranrising5 жыл бұрын
Violinists tapping bows on their music stands in Rossini's delightful overture to Il Signor Bruschino. Greetings from East Anglia in England.
@wcsxwcsx3 жыл бұрын
If you've heard several performances, you realize that it's surprisingly hard to get those hammer strikes just right.
@TheStockwell6 жыл бұрын
Great upload. I've added it to my KZfaq playlist, "Mahler Hammerschlag Hall of Fame." I've been listening to Mahler for decades and I'm amazed by how the Sixth has caught on. Who saw THAT coming?
@Oddquartet6 жыл бұрын
I know, right. The Sixth has a really interesting popularity right now.
@5610winston2 жыл бұрын
There's the anvil in Rheingold, an instrument that also appears in "The Song of the Blacksmith" in Holst's Second Suite for Military Band and probably a dozen other pieces. Of course John Barnes Chance wrote a sort of "concerto grosso" for the percussion section in his "Incantation and Dance", but the percussion instruments used are not particularly unusual. Chance, who produced a good bit of first-rate band music, died way too young in a freak accident involving an electric fence, perhaps our Mahlerian Hero meeting his fate?
@quite1enough6 жыл бұрын
there's also wooden hammers in Ustvolskaya's Composition No. 2 and 5th symphony
@N_Loco_Parenthesis4 жыл бұрын
(2:20) Jón Leifs made extensive use of non-traditional instruments, especially percussion. His Symphony No.1, the ballet Baldr, and tone poem Hekla, all run the gamut from the more familiar bass drums, timps and tamtam, to Mahler hammer, 'tuned' rocks sourced from the volcanic Icelandic wilderness, gun and cannon shots, swords, sea chains, struck anvils, and various types of bells. He also made repeated use of bronze lurs, a kind of primitive horn that goes back to the Iron Age. You can see and hear a sample of the hammer being used in this video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b79_YJmn166bZoE.html
@MrBulky992 Жыл бұрын
Let us not forget the "deep bells" specified by Wagner for use in Acts I and III of "Parsifal" during those scenes at or near the Grail temple. These play a repeated pattern of 4 notes (C, G below, A just above and E below) as a very slow ostinato and are nothing like the normal orchestral tubular bells. These pitches allow Wagner to compose music in C major in Act I and E minor in Act III for use in the hopeful transformation scene and the despondent funeral scene respectively. The Festspielhaus at Bayreuth had numerous attempts over the years to get these right. The originals in 1882 were made by a piano manufacturer in the form of a pianoforte chassis with 4 thick, heavy strings. Other contraptions were made (some with huge barrel resonators) in subsequent years to get a better effect. Nowadays, opera houses tend to use recordings of actual church bells (probably not what Wagner intended) of the correct pitches or other types of bell-like sound.
@MrDSCH-ib2mx6 жыл бұрын
A typewriter and a pistol in "Parade" by Erik Satie.
@bennypaulos28012 жыл бұрын
Yeah !!
@ebur36297 жыл бұрын
do a video about tchaikovsky's cannon! 😃
@Oddquartet7 жыл бұрын
+Shrimp King I think you just picked the topic for the next music history video. 😉
@jgesselberty6 жыл бұрын
And, don't forget, Tchaikovsky was among the first to use the celesta, in Nutcracker.
@davidecymba5 жыл бұрын
@@jgesselberty uhm... for the celesta i'm thinking about mozart's magic flute. isn't it a celesta playing the "carillon" music?
@braveoil135 жыл бұрын
There is a cannon?! Bruh orchestras and symphonies just got way cooler
@Time4Technology2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video!
@wolfgangresch16503 жыл бұрын
AWESOME 💪 I believe that the scherzo should follow the first movement, regardless on how it was published- Mahler himself said,"If you believe something should be changed in his music, the conductor has not only the right, but the DUTY to change it-I believe that he meant things like the order of movements in the sixth, whether to play the repeat in the first movement, both in the third and sixth (which he put, just like Beethoven in the first movement of the sixth, pastoral) to show the critics, that he knew strict sonata form). I myself, believe the musical thoughts progress perfectly with the original formats. Just my point of view 🤗🤗♥️
@winstonelston57432 жыл бұрын
Perhaps not relevant, but Borodin's symphonies (all 2 1/2) had the scherzo as the second movement, and of course, Beethoven's Ninth, and the fugue second movement of Widor's organ Symphonie Gothique...
@wolfgangresch16502 жыл бұрын
@@winstonelston5743 great point 💪
@MrBulky992 Жыл бұрын
@@winstonelston5743 Also Bruckner's 8th symphony and unfinished 9th which were well known to Mahler. Sir Colin Davis, in recording Bruckner's 7th, reverses the order of the slow movement and scherzo, playing the scherzo first, the only recording to do so, so far as I know. This treatment has the advantage of separating two movements which open in a similar way (the first movement and adagio open with themes with similar tempo and rhythm), a point relevant to Mahler's 6th where the opening of the scherzo could, for a bar or two, be mistaken by the unfamiliar for a continuation or repeat of the first movement (same key, especially). I often wonder whether Mahler changed the order to opening-adagio-scherzo-finale for that reason.
@jgesselberty6 жыл бұрын
Recording of a nightingale in Respighi's "Pines of Rome."
@FORRESTtheunoriginal2 жыл бұрын
4 Helicopters Karl-Heinz Stockhausens "Helicopter String Quartet". Each carrying a member of the quarter, and they would circle the hall the piece was performed in, the players playing on the helicopters and their performance getting broadcast live into the venue. So you get a combination of the actual song, with the distant sound of helicopters.
@andantemusic025 жыл бұрын
Another unusual instrument is the Gramophone in the third movement of the Pines of Rome. Very pretty :)
@SynchroScore2 жыл бұрын
Taxi horns in Gershwin's An American In Paris, and slap-stick in Ravel's Piano Concerto.
@tfpp16 жыл бұрын
The Flexitone, which appears in the recap of the second movement of Kachaturian's Piano Concerto, is an unusual instrument.
@PSchearer3 жыл бұрын
I recall that the Flexitone is the modern replacement for Khachaturian's originally-scored musical saw.
@tubadylan286 жыл бұрын
Dropping chains have been used in a couple of pieces from a recent concert “Echoes of Egypt” and “A Russian Festival”
@andrewnguyen12202 жыл бұрын
Or Gurrelieder by Schoenberg
@nicoville206 жыл бұрын
A ship bell (or break drum) in John Philip Sousa’s “The Liberty Bell March” (1893) to recreate a sound of The Liberty Bell
@ROBZofficial7 жыл бұрын
Cheese grater and slide flute, Ravel's L'enfant et les sortilèges.
@WheeljacksScoreVideos6 жыл бұрын
What about the wind machine that was used in The Barber of Seville?
@FilipusWisnumurti5 жыл бұрын
Just want to correct something. Thr gif with lorin maazel conducting is actually berlin phil performing maazel orchestral arrangement of wagner ring. The hammer blow in thr rheingold part is suppossed to be metalic hammer, but maazel changed it to wood.
@Oddquartet5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for pointing that out! I’m sorry I didn’t check the source of that gif better.
@thatelectropig8678 Жыл бұрын
Now you should add the Mahler hammer instrument to the collection (though it is kind of a hammer, the name is pretty self explanatory) it’s basically just a massive block of wood on a stick from classical music, also, interesting video!
@OnDasherOnDancer3 жыл бұрын
Eerie wind/soprano in the background of Brian Easdale’s score for the ballet The Red Shoes.
@louisc.gasper75882 жыл бұрын
Besides cannon in the 1812, there are the church bells (NOT chimes!) in Berlioz' Symphonie Fantastique, Verdi's anvil, the taxi horns in Gershwin's American in Paris. Those are off the top of my head.
@lucaskopke68862 жыл бұрын
Another weird instrument in a symphony is the wind machine played in Strauss’s Alpine symphony
@MrBulky992 Жыл бұрын
Also used, very appropriately, in Vaughan Williams' "Sinfonia Antarctica".
@bakedpotato11386 жыл бұрын
Wind Machine, Richard Strauss uses one in Eine Alpensinfonie (An Alpine Symphony), I had one made for my High School Band a few years ago.
@furripupau7 жыл бұрын
The train whistle in H.C. Lumbeye's steam railway gallop... and whatever is used to make the chuffing noises in the same.
@VanessaHolguin Жыл бұрын
The strangest instrument is Doofwally's 2nd symphony where a midget on a pogo stick is required during the finale.
@viddork3 жыл бұрын
While the taxi horns for Gershwin's _An American in Paris_ are mentioned below, I didn't see any word about the collection of percussion instruments specified for his _Cuban Overture._ And let us not forget R. Murray Schafer’s _North/White,_ with its snowmobile soloist.
@alexanderguthrie67446 жыл бұрын
The gif at the bottom is actually from Der Ring Ohne Worte, not Mahler 6.
@sjmh2804915 жыл бұрын
The best one: Prokofiev's Machine guns in the Cantata for the 20th anniversary of October Revolution.
@Oddquartet5 жыл бұрын
That’s interesting! I had never heard that before. Will definitely add it to the list for a future video.
@u.v.s.55833 жыл бұрын
Also used in black metal.
@valkhorn2 жыл бұрын
And four accordions
@MrBulky992 Жыл бұрын
Elgar uses the Jewish shofar in an extended passage at the start of his oratorio "The Apostles" (1903) set in Jerusalem just before sunrise, during the song of the Temple Watchers (where the choir sing music based on a Jewish tune). This is a ram's horn used during rituals in Judaism and only seems to be able to play two notes a major 6th apart but in various rhythms. In modern performances, given the scarcity of the instrument and performers, the part tends to be played on some other instrument such as trumpet, cornett or shawm.
@winstonelston57432 жыл бұрын
The anvil in "The Song of the Blacksmith" in Holst's Second Suite for Military Band. Of course, Leopold Mozart wrote a symphony that included toy noisemakers as instruments in the score, and Peter Schickele, well, Peter Schickele....
@uziTGC6 жыл бұрын
That's some amazing content. I can't believe this channel has less than 1k subscribers.
@etiennemettaz59234 жыл бұрын
A tubular bell drowned in water in Stig Nordhagen's Myth forest for Brass Band
@cornyrob7 жыл бұрын
There have been at least two pieces featuring vacuum cleaner. And i think Varèse scored aircraft engines. Don't forget Hindemith's Helicopter Quartet
@JohnChernoff6 жыл бұрын
I believe there's a Stockhausen Helicopter Quartet, but I doubt Hindemith anticipated it :)
@steveeliscu12543 жыл бұрын
Aircraft engines in George Antheil's Ballet Mecanique.
@gilesgoldsbro58163 жыл бұрын
Gerald Hoffnung I think
@Piucci5 жыл бұрын
The objects Ligeti used as percussion in "aventures" and "nouvelles aventures"
@petercollin56703 жыл бұрын
Solo with chaine-scie in Jackal's "I'm a Lumberjack".
@aj_skapayjay3 жыл бұрын
I once played a piece called "Tenchoblade" that called for musicians to hit their stands with screwdrivers...
@u.v.s.55833 жыл бұрын
I am not an alcoholic, nor a proper musician, but if I were, and had to participate in this, I would appear with the cocktail of the same name. Cheers!
@andrewnguyen12202 жыл бұрын
RIP
@theMad_Artist5 жыл бұрын
Is this a programme symphony? The way you described it seemed to indicate there is a clear dramatic story that is supposed to accompany it. I'm not much familiar with Mahler's works so I'm asking out of genuine curiosity.
@Oddquartet5 жыл бұрын
No, there isn’t a specific story or text that goes along with the symphony. Not that I know of. The idea of the blows of fate is just one explanation for the hammer blows.
@MrBulky992 Жыл бұрын
@Gary Allen I believe the 6th is often regarded as being autobiographical with the radiant second subject in the opening movement representing Mahler's wife, Alma. There are prominent cow bells in the slow movement. Mahler used to spend his summers composing in huts on the banks of various lakes in rural locations. There were originally 3 hammer blows but the final one was deleted, some claim for superstitious reasons.
@morganpirate91272 жыл бұрын
How about using as a target the haunch of a cow being struck with a heavy battle axe type instrument draped in a chain mail like covering?
@grnphroggy6 жыл бұрын
Leroy Anderson's typewriter!
@guatagel24543 жыл бұрын
A well tuned viola.
@Artichoke4Head2 жыл бұрын
:D
@AbuMaia012 жыл бұрын
How about the anvils in the Anvil Chorus of Il Trovatore? Or a typewriter used in the soundtrack for the animated series Violet Evergarden.
@jgesselberty6 жыл бұрын
Siren in Varese' "Ionisation."
@JohnChernoff6 жыл бұрын
IIRC, Khachaturian uses a flexatone in his piano concerto ...
@gorjulin7 ай бұрын
Only one answer … Leroy Anderson performing the TYPEWRITER Symphony !
@jgesselberty6 жыл бұрын
Alphorns in the music of Wagner and Strauss.
@MrBulky992 Жыл бұрын
I am not sure Wagner ever uses alphorns. Wagner tubas are used in the Ring and cow horns (often replaced with traditional orchestra horns) in the second act of Gotterdammerung. Bruckner used alphorns, however, in his choral piece "Abendzauber". Mahler uses a "post horn" in his 3rd symphony.
@murrayaronson37534 жыл бұрын
Chains in Janacek's opera From the House of the Dead.
@tubedude542 жыл бұрын
Gallagher was born for this instrument...
@Ryan983916 жыл бұрын
Can anyone think of an orchestral piece that uses a thunder sheet?
@Oddquartet6 жыл бұрын
This is a really good question, I think it might show up in incidental music in operas but I can't think of any standalone orchestral pieces that use the thunder sheet.
@phidelt26 жыл бұрын
Odd Quartet - a thunder sheet appears in several pieces of music throughout history. It’s featured in Richard Strauss’s Alpine Symphony, Ferde Grofe’s Grand Canyon Suite, and in Mozart’s The Magic Flute.
@Pictor03 жыл бұрын
Schoenberg's Gurrelieder has chains
@ethansearls19967 жыл бұрын
The dill piccolo
@stonebear5 ай бұрын
Tchakovsky's use of cannons is the classic (ahem) example... oddly, these *have* to be an anachronism, because the black powder cannons used when Napoleon actually attacked Moscow would've been wildly inappropriate... "da-da-da-da BA-WOOOOM!" nope nope nope just musically WRONG. "da(BANG)-da(BANG)" can only be achieved with *smokeless powder* (which, oddly, wasn't available for the first performance, being invented two years later; I suspect the timpani were called to substitute). Lots of recordings out there with actual cannon now, ofc... perhaps the most famous being the Cincinnati Symphony with Eric Kunzel and the Oberlin cannons, which, according to the flyer in the CD, blew out the English department windows 700 feet away... this thing has a *warning label*.
@Balfour.4 жыл бұрын
Guitar and mandolin in Mahler's 7h
@geoycs3 жыл бұрын
Wow, that Mahler. What a guy….
@dzikusdzikusdzikus2 жыл бұрын
You can find some small hammers hitting metal in the Wagners "The ring of the Nibelung"
@BrendainPA2 жыл бұрын
French taxi horns in "An American in Paris "
@potrelviewer95362 жыл бұрын
The only non-traditionnal (or peculiar) instruments that I can think of is the plethora of percussions used in some Penderecki symphonies.
@johnbaker64617 жыл бұрын
How about Siegfried's hammer when he reforges his father's sword? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pLh6dNOHz9zcenk.html
@MrBulky992 Жыл бұрын
Also Hans Sachs' cobbler's hammer he uses to repair Beckmesser's shoes during the latter's serenading of Eva in Act II of Wagner's "Die Meistersinger".
@johnb67232 жыл бұрын
Talking of 1906, that was the year of the great earthquake of the seventh seal in Revelation.
@CaesarCMusic5 жыл бұрын
Not sure what it is, but there’s a high pitched windy sound in one the last variations of Strauss’ Don Quixote
@andantemusic025 жыл бұрын
Wind machine?
@andantemusic023 жыл бұрын
@Gary Allen its use in Daphnis and Chloe is one of my faves.
@DK-tv6rk2 жыл бұрын
Love how you used the correct map of Germany; many KZfaqrs just use the modern borders.
@jackwilmoresongs4 жыл бұрын
Andanta - third movement better imo.
@edoardobighin50033 жыл бұрын
The siren at the end of the first Kammermusik by Hindemith. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g65khKmQr5i9cn0.html
@stellarnomad67362 жыл бұрын
typewriter used in a symphony
@Braveplantt Жыл бұрын
THE CANNONS
@MrTacticalinuit4 жыл бұрын
1812 Cannons
@michaelreidperry3256 Жыл бұрын
Mahler #6 is the most disturbing of the symphonies.
@johannsebastianbach34116 жыл бұрын
wagner also has some hammers in the ring cycle
@noahgodard33384 жыл бұрын
Scherzo-Andante gang
@nicedubs81632 жыл бұрын
Why would you not include this part in the video? Your video is incomplete.
@Ardjano2342 жыл бұрын
The ping pong concerto
@scharnhorstkaisarbeethoven Жыл бұрын
Yes Canon
@gimelvauquinto64364 жыл бұрын
ummm tchaikovsky 1812 cannons
@ralphralpherson94412 жыл бұрын
So you're a musician eh? What instrument do you play? Its complicated...
@arthurpomponio37734 жыл бұрын
Beer steins in Carmina Burana
@b43xoit3 жыл бұрын
Of Orff? How are they played?
@Stealthcola2 жыл бұрын
JIFF
@maurozanchetta6486 жыл бұрын
Toys in the Toy Symphony!
@Spreadsheeter5 жыл бұрын
why does Mahler sound so weird?
@matthewsullivan25286 жыл бұрын
Gershwin used different pitched taxi horns in American in Paris
@AnakinSkywalker411006 жыл бұрын
Absolute silence!!! 4'33
@cornyrob3 жыл бұрын
Wherever there's a GP (such as in Poet & Peasant overture) there is absolute silence
@franceskinskij3 жыл бұрын
wind machine in Strauss Alpensinfonie
@joeabc6 жыл бұрын
The Ondes Martenot in Messiaen's Turangalila Symphony.
@polyushkopole52923 жыл бұрын
Best and unbeatable sound of Thor´s hammer is Solti´s on Wagner Rheingold sorry but Mahlers not even close of that masterpice
@DerMauger16 жыл бұрын
Anvils in Wagner's Ring cycle. (Das Rheingold).
@roseberry-nj2ux2 жыл бұрын
The Nordic mythology impression is funny because Mahler was jewish
@charleyhibschweiler45555 жыл бұрын
Cannons in 1812
@adamwojtasiak62043 жыл бұрын
The typewriter! Lol
@Ardjano2344 жыл бұрын
Fake church Bell in Wagner opera
@MrBulky992 Жыл бұрын
I think those will be the "deep bells" in Wagner's "Parsifal".
@schonkable6 жыл бұрын
The heavy iron chains ("Kettern") in Schoenberg's "Gurrelieder".