The Mario Sequel That Never Was

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8 ай бұрын

Super Mario Odyssey was a massive success for Nintendo. So like Breath of the Wild, Pokemon, and pretty much every other successful game for the Switch we all expected a sequel or DLC... but we still haven't gotten it. In this video I examine the real reasons Odyssey 2 never happened... and never will.
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@generalcrab0009
@generalcrab0009 8 ай бұрын
The only reason we got Galaxy 2 is because the team had so many more ideas they couldn’t fit into the first game, so they made a sequel
@pinhead7422
@pinhead7422 8 ай бұрын
Same reason we got Tears of the Kingdom too, interestingly enough
@Gomba_439
@Gomba_439 8 ай бұрын
Alexa said their was gonna be a mario odyssey 2 :[
@pinhead7422
@pinhead7422 8 ай бұрын
@@Gomba_439 dam it's gotta be true then
@LAQL31
@LAQL31 7 ай бұрын
well, most of the stuff in galaxy 2 was meant to just be DLC. It wasn’t actually supposed to be in the base game of galaxy 1 , but but in the end they still made had to make a new game
@generalcrab0009
@generalcrab0009 7 ай бұрын
@@LAQL31 Yeah. Pretty much what I just said
@KirboYT
@KirboYT 8 ай бұрын
With every Nintendo Direct that passes, my hope for Odyssey 2 dwindles more and more
@Fifth313ment
@Fifth313ment 8 ай бұрын
Same, Odyssey is my favorite Mario game of all time. I loved Wonder but the sandbox Mario's hold so much nostalgia for me. I wish Mario Odyssey had patched button controls so we didn't have those stupid waggle shakes. I think the Bowsers add on on u port was a test of open world (ish) Mario and it was great. So I think you are right that Odyssey 2 is dead sadly but I expect and open world Mario sandbox game would be amazing!
@Harper_Onions
@Harper_Onions 8 ай бұрын
Here's the thing Super Mario Galaxy 2 was never originally intended to be a full game, just DLC. However it soon became clear the game was too big, and it kinda seems like they must've had unfinished business with Galaxy as there's so much new content in the game.
@grigorirasputin996
@grigorirasputin996 8 ай бұрын
I still havent got over sm64 never getting a sequel.
@gabe5918
@gabe5918 7 ай бұрын
I have. 1-63 was PLENTY. It was definitely time to switch it up with Sunshine.
@grigorirasputin996
@grigorirasputin996 7 ай бұрын
@@gabe5918 😂
@Rexred09
@Rexred09 2 ай бұрын
Super Mario 64 Ds: Am I a joke to you?
@grigorirasputin996
@grigorirasputin996 2 ай бұрын
@Rexred09 hey, I love 64 ds. It's a really nice remake with extra features, but a sequel it is not.
@nikflix2004
@nikflix2004 6 ай бұрын
I legitimately think Bowser's fury began life as epilogue DLC for Odyssey, explaining where Jr was and how Bowser got back to earth (By crashing his ship). The cats would have been captures that let you play like the cat suit and the whole kingdom itself works like a sequel campaign. The reuse of assets and animations make me feel like this was Odyssey DLC that they kept and ended up putting it in 3D world and making different changes to it as a result
@cappy2282
@cappy2282 8 ай бұрын
U made great argument on why we didn't get sequel, i do love 3d world and it deserved it time
@nascour5991
@nascour5991 8 ай бұрын
check ur grammar kid lmao
@false_icons
@false_icons 8 ай бұрын
@@nascour5991 Check your grammar, kid.*
@nascour5991
@nascour5991 8 ай бұрын
I'm 24 :p yeah yeah i forgot a comma or whatever hypocrisy but unintentional@@false_icons
@cappy2282
@cappy2282 8 ай бұрын
@nascour5991 ...I'll have 500 word essay on desk by morning, Mr Wordsworth
@TheSpeedfoever
@TheSpeedfoever 8 ай бұрын
Game awards is the only answer to show it or maybe next direct thats it
@Jelly_shy_guy_man
@Jelly_shy_guy_man 8 ай бұрын
Amazing video how do I know all your videos are amazing
@aaronferguson3169
@aaronferguson3169 8 ай бұрын
I have huge wishes for Mario, Luigi, and the others.
@TinOfBoost
@TinOfBoost 7 ай бұрын
Me too :)
@aaronferguson3169
@aaronferguson3169 7 ай бұрын
​@@TinOfBoost Well sure, good to know you have huge wishes for them as well😁😁⭐⭐. May I tell you what my huge wishes include?
@FTChomp9980
@FTChomp9980 8 ай бұрын
Imagine if u will: A 3D Mario that is a love letter to both 2D and 3D Mario with a New Gameplay gimmick similar to Cappy but with added Power Ups,more enemy variants,More new costumes,new worlds to explore,sidequests,and open world 3D Platformering in the vibe of Bowsers Fury meets Super Mario Wonder meets Mario Odyssey.
@pinhead7422
@pinhead7422 8 ай бұрын
I'm not trying to be mean but dude that is literally just buzzword heaven
@persondoesstuff2188
@persondoesstuff2188 22 сағат бұрын
wouldn't a 2D mario mixed with a 3D mario just be like the 2D sections in sonic games where the level changes from 3D to 2D at certain points?
@ProjectMirai64
@ProjectMirai64 8 ай бұрын
I wish that it would have been real. The idea of Odyssey of capturing enemies and exploring diverse kingdoms was amazing and will never be matched
@Super64Legend
@Super64Legend 8 ай бұрын
You are one of my fav youtubers
@Dumbmoviereviews
@Dumbmoviereviews 8 ай бұрын
I thought I was ;(
@sonic23233
@sonic23233 8 ай бұрын
The Switch 2 is probably the same as the original except it can play games the Switch can't
@Dr.Azalel
@Dr.Azalel 7 ай бұрын
I wish after you beat bowser in mario Odyssey for the first time Luigi would send you a letter saying "hey bro, you beat bowser but you are still looking for moons? let me help ya, go behind the Odyssey and I will replace you when you are tired" Similar to mario galaxy 2
@JakeSm4sh
@JakeSm4sh 8 ай бұрын
I want it. SMO 2
@ernestosibbley3238
@ernestosibbley3238 8 ай бұрын
I mean seeing Mario odyssey was odd to see.😏
@Skyer37
@Skyer37 8 ай бұрын
Man did not just say "10th generation" 22:13
@Mymy_64
@Mymy_64 8 ай бұрын
I imagine they want one new 3D game per console.
@jimmya486
@jimmya486 8 ай бұрын
Here's hopeful for 100k. Great video
@user-yg5bt2gs8l
@user-yg5bt2gs8l 3 ай бұрын
i think if they did make a mario odyssey 2 it would be on the next nintendo console and i'd like an open world concept
@yellowgamers5996
@yellowgamers5996 Ай бұрын
I'm hoping for a Next 3D Open World Mario Game with more playable characters like Luigi, Peach, and Toad (Blue), so i can test out their abilities, and i wanna see the SMB2 and 3D world Roster in an open world game. not only that, but i also want the 3D Mario that focuses on more platforming like how 64, and sunshine did, and with power ups that were utilized in 64 and Galaxy. I also miss the platforming challenges and secrets to discover as well.
@completesentences2125
@completesentences2125 7 ай бұрын
I’m pretty sure odessey 2 will be a launch title on switch 2.
@GKay_X
@GKay_X 6 ай бұрын
Besides from the topic of this video, I just want to take a moment to appereciate the making of it! The Music, the footage, the really Well made arguments and explainations for everything. This just elevated the bit of sadness I felt at the end. Because at the start, I still had hope for a sequel to Odyssey. But looking at everything laid out at the end, I really picture this game releasing anymore. If, as stated, Nintendo doesn't do anything dumb, that is. Instead, I am now very excited for whatever new there is to come for 3D Mario
@KoopaDubs
@KoopaDubs 7 ай бұрын
As much as I’d love to think Nintendo’s playing the long game with Odyssey 2, they’ll likely launch the next console with a completely different 3D Mario instead of using the Odyssey mechanics instead. It still raises the question of why Nintendo abandoned every new concept introduced in Odyssey barring Pauline and the regional coins though. Seriously, I’m gonna miss Cappy and his entire kingdom if he winds up not coming back. Another thing I’d like to bring up is a leak from November 2019 that seemingly nobody brings up anymore. There was a survey given out to select gamers about how they’d feel about certain concepts to be introduced in Sonic Frontiers (at the time untitled) and an Odyssey sequel. All of the concepts in the Frontiers part of the survey made it into that respective game. However, nothing of the Odyssey sequel has come since. It’s possible that the Odyssey things were thrown in as a sort of trap to catch someone if they were to leak the survey, but considering that the survey was given out by a third party and not Sega or Nintendo, it’d be weird to think that one game was real and the other wasn’t. Hoping that these concepts will see the light of day eventually, potentially as the Switch’s swan song! Would love to know what you think.
@whitewo1fgmer
@whitewo1fgmer 8 ай бұрын
yeah odyssey should have gotten something by now i personally think that it will be switch 2 launch title
@generalcrab0009
@generalcrab0009 8 ай бұрын
Nintendo doesn’t do sequels on separate consoles. If we were going to get an Odyssey 2, it’d be a Switch release, not a Switch 2 release
@bb5bucks
@bb5bucks 8 ай бұрын
Little anecdote here: one time (before Wonder was announced) I was at the store in the switch section. Someone the worker to get her “Mario” and the worker asked which one. She just said “normal Mario” and had a hard time figuring it out. Maker? NSMBU? 3D World? Now Wonder is probably the definitive answer.
@speedude0164
@speedude0164 8 ай бұрын
Lol my guess is it's NSMBU since the formula has stayed the same across most 2D games and is the most recognizable to the general public.
@kennycarter5682
@kennycarter5682 8 ай бұрын
Nintendo basically never does sequals because they dont need to Mario galaxy is a true anomaly edit.. ya. to be clear im referring to MARIO games. i was reminded about the Zelda series having a few sequals
@traviscunningham7062
@traviscunningham7062 7 ай бұрын
And BOTW. Also people forget that Majora’s Mask is a sequel to Ocarina of Time.
@kennycarter5682
@kennycarter5682 7 ай бұрын
@@traviscunningham7062 ya. probably should of specified for mario games..... lol
@BitchChill
@BitchChill 7 ай бұрын
Zelda has tons of sequels. What are you talking about?
@Matty_Ice3955
@Matty_Ice3955 6 ай бұрын
6:20 you mean 100% who had an NES had Super Mario Bros. 😆 😂
@Frantic_AJ
@Frantic_AJ 7 ай бұрын
Odyssey 2 can wait, we need galaxy 3 first pls
@Tal12075
@Tal12075 8 ай бұрын
a mario opened World is not good Like what you going to do. Jumping on enemies to collect XP To level ap your jump power. It just going to be confusing.
@jockson7574
@jockson7574 8 ай бұрын
They could port odyssey to the next console and call it super Mario odyssey deluxe with new kingdoms to explore
@damianzodda
@damianzodda 8 ай бұрын
That’s what paper Mario was a somewhat open world with chapters that you can go to but it was open in the sense that you could go from one place to the other and everything was connected through Toad Town and being 3d it was linear but interconnected and open
@HairyAlien3
@HairyAlien3 5 ай бұрын
Nintendo Switch 2 lineup: Mario Odyssey 2 Mario Kart 9 Metroid Prime 4 Donkey Kong Country 5 Crazy good lineup
@Nighttale233
@Nighttale233 7 ай бұрын
Nintendo probably wanted Mario Odssey to sell even more than BOTW. But decided against it when BOTW surpassed it.
@Super64Legend
@Super64Legend 8 ай бұрын
Will you review Mario Wonder soon?
@peytonfkdsumadre1456
@peytonfkdsumadre1456 7 ай бұрын
“this shouldn’t take too long” then the zoom in on mario rpg was so clever. idek if that was intentional or not but i felt that
@jasperstuart5745
@jasperstuart5745 8 ай бұрын
It’s also Possible that Nintendo Waits for this Sequel until the launch of the Next Generation Console,it’s more likely we’ll see a Super Mario Galaxy 2 Remake/Remaster in 2024 or 2025
@mikecraftbro
@mikecraftbro 7 ай бұрын
I wanted to get a switch mostly for Mario odyssey since the console came out and it’s the top of my most plays games on my switch
@spartanlocke2071
@spartanlocke2071 8 ай бұрын
Mostly got replace by wonder. Which I’m glad got wonder instead. 3:03 Really was successful game?
@lk_3099
@lk_3099 8 ай бұрын
That shouldn't have made a difference imo. 3D and 2D Mario games have different audiences.
@Mario87456
@Mario87456 8 ай бұрын
@@lk_3099I play both types. So I wouldn’t say that exactly.
@anniejefferson7329
@anniejefferson7329 7 ай бұрын
I think the new switch is going to have a banger bundle mario when released. That's why it's been so hush hush
@spartanlocke2071
@spartanlocke2071 8 ай бұрын
3:33 no really got canceled. We go the ds thing duh.
@CorbinLeonard-rp4et
@CorbinLeonard-rp4et 7 ай бұрын
For the next nitendo conusal will be called the omga switch
@jasonchen6982
@jasonchen6982 8 ай бұрын
I might as well say some things. So bowsers Fury is kinda like a experimental open world game kinda like super Mario 3D land. And Kirby did had a small 3D title on the 3Ds called Kirby blowout blast that test what a 3D Kirby game could be like later on the Nintendo switch Kirby got a massive big 3D game called Kirby and the forgotten land. And Samus also has a 3Ds title called Metroid Samus returns, then on the switch she has a new game that expands called Metroid Dread. And as for super Mario bros wonder there was actually no deadline they could take their precious time with the game and it’s very detailed in every single game and probably the true sequel to the New super Mario bros DS with the many ideas everyone in the Nintendo crew and write a idea of what could be in the game on a sticky note and stick it on a wall even the sound designers, artists designers and other people and put in a idea. The reason 2D Mario games sells so well it’s because it’s more simple and you can play with your friends and the 3D Mario games are much more complex and hard to take in and usually only 2 players except super Mario 3D world but super Mario bros wonder fix that problem it’s simple to understand but also expands on what New super Mario bros DS did like the wonder flowers with changes the level completely and lots of secrets and very nice new style and pretty good game. And that’s my information I need to tell you I hope it helps.
@_NormalEditor
@_NormalEditor 8 ай бұрын
22:19 hmmm
@Terminated_Account
@Terminated_Account 7 ай бұрын
Nintendo never liked to make direct sequels, Galaxy 2 is the only exception with Mario because they had way too many ideas that couldnt fit in the first one.
@julianmitchell5776
@julianmitchell5776 8 ай бұрын
Mario games don’t get sequels .. it’s one per console .. galaxy 2 being the outlier obviously
@supermarioplushyadventures105
@supermarioplushyadventures105 5 ай бұрын
I think we'll get a mario Odyssey 2 on the next console
@220ms_
@220ms_ 8 ай бұрын
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@frouvoxes
@frouvoxes 8 ай бұрын
Honestly I'd rather play an original game
@sahilhossian8212
@sahilhossian8212 8 ай бұрын
Lore of The Mario Sequel That Never Was momentum 100
@devinsauls9137
@devinsauls9137 8 ай бұрын
Mario Kart Tour is Mario Kart 9
@generalcrab0009
@generalcrab0009 8 ай бұрын
Yeah
@BitchChill
@BitchChill 7 ай бұрын
Something people don't want to hear. So they can push the narrative that "It's been a decade since we've had a Mario kart game!". If we look at things for what they actually are it's only been 4 years since the last Mario Kart game
@generalcrab0009
@generalcrab0009 7 ай бұрын
@@BitchChill you’re 100% right. Even if Tour isn’t mainline, though it obviously is, it’s still only been 4 years since the last entry
@BitchChill
@BitchChill 7 ай бұрын
@@generalcrab0009 That time is average between releases for most franchises
@generalcrab0009
@generalcrab0009 7 ай бұрын
@@BitchChill yeah it is
@QnjtGWonQNqVsbYyzjx4
@QnjtGWonQNqVsbYyzjx4 7 ай бұрын
Nintendo isn’t always for profit, while their marketing department(which probably don’t interfere much) might be, they also have the development department I believe the game might be cancelled before release, if Nintendo was to make Odyssey 2, their concept might just be a expansive open hub world like bowser’s fury, at the middle of the development, maybe they just focus too much on the open hub world but not the capture or kingdoms(the only reason why it is considered a sequel), they thought of a place between a grassland, a snow world and a desert, likely a revisit to Odyssey’s kingdom. There weren’t enemies to capture beside maybe bullet bill planned for the hard blocks. They decided to port the game to 3D world(seeing the state of the prototype) nstead and retooled the hub world to be lake lapcat. I believe it might just not be the time for a switch 2, a sequel with more power just is not Nintendo enough and they don’t want to take the risk or go with the PS5 route, I can see them gradually ‘phasing out’ the switch hardware. They felt most of the player base don’t care for a complete new console, with the diehard wanting more power and the casuals wanting new games. They are first announcing games planned for the new console on switch(like wonder or peach’s showtime), then announcing some new accessories for the switch to allows new gameplay stuff. Finally offering a pro version for the core players.
@user-ui6cr5de8e
@user-ui6cr5de8e Ай бұрын
Odyssey 2 actually comes out on the switch 2 it’s the 3d Mario game.
@ivanzoneBR24
@ivanzoneBR24 8 ай бұрын
I think your Wapeach video needs to be have an update pal.
@terrysyvertson9205
@terrysyvertson9205 8 ай бұрын
mario odyssey 2 was never and will never going to be a thing ever and also, Nintendo recently decided to only have 1 3d mario game per console, so getting a 2nd 3d mario game on switch is not happening ever, also, the next mario kart will be mario kart 10 because Nintendo counts tour as 9
@ASP-NEW
@ASP-NEW 7 ай бұрын
Instead of getting Mario Odyssey 2 Nintendo replace Mario wonder
@wthrz
@wthrz 8 ай бұрын
I still want a Galaxy 3. C'mon Nintendo.
@INFERNO95
@INFERNO95 8 ай бұрын
Grow up.
@traviscunningham7062
@traviscunningham7062 7 ай бұрын
3D World is Galaxy 3.
@moustachio05
@moustachio05 4 ай бұрын
​@@traviscunningham7062 No 3d World is a 3d Land sequel
@luciamannino9815
@luciamannino9815 7 ай бұрын
A lot of people want Super Mario Odyssey 2
@OtaigaBillions
@OtaigaBillions 8 ай бұрын
I can't move on either. I need Odyssey 2!!!!!
@OtaigaBillions
@OtaigaBillions 8 ай бұрын
Could they not just make Odyssey 2 as the last switch game?
@A1BlackShadow
@A1BlackShadow 7 ай бұрын
If there will be another one it will be for the switch 2 100%
@Dumbmoviereviews
@Dumbmoviereviews 8 ай бұрын
We don’t know that yet. If anything they probably have the game finish right now and there’s just a bunch of physical copies in a room/warehouse at Nintendo just waiting to be announced, advertised, then ship. These things happen.
@generalcrab0009
@generalcrab0009 8 ай бұрын
We’re like a year or two away from the release of the next console. It’s not happening
@generalcrab0009
@generalcrab0009 8 ай бұрын
@DarkVelvet257 Nintendo doesn’t do sequels, and when they do, they’re released on the same console as the original game.
@AFan-zi5jh
@AFan-zi5jh 8 ай бұрын
Nice
@natalieroberts7457
@natalieroberts7457 7 ай бұрын
Say goodbye to, Super Mario 2 Odyssey
@Mojavekight17
@Mojavekight17 8 ай бұрын
The Wii was successful and a Failure
@Thxt_One_Fpe_Fan
@Thxt_One_Fpe_Fan 8 ай бұрын
6th
@Teedgeee
@Teedgeee 8 ай бұрын
Odyssey 2 is an awful idea anyway im glad it's never happening
@moustachio05
@moustachio05 4 ай бұрын
How the fuck is it a bad idea???? The capture mechanic is so underdeveloped
@Jelly_shy_guy_man
@Jelly_shy_guy_man 8 ай бұрын
First
@Grind_The_Fix567
@Grind_The_Fix567 8 ай бұрын
No
@susana311071
@susana311071 8 ай бұрын
He is yabbing for 25 minutes just to say it may happen on the nintendo switch 2
@chobies5383
@chobies5383 8 ай бұрын
*Yapping
@susana311071
@susana311071 8 ай бұрын
@@chobies5383 everyone spells ""Yapping" differently ok 3:
@stateyourbuisness1928
@stateyourbuisness1928 7 ай бұрын
Bro who asked
@julianmitchell5776
@julianmitchell5776 8 ай бұрын
Odyssey is my least favorite 3D Mario game . I really truly don’t want a Mario odyssey 2 at all
@traviscunningham7062
@traviscunningham7062 7 ай бұрын
Sunshine is my least favorite. Feels more like a chore than an actual game.
@Super64Legend
@Super64Legend 8 ай бұрын
Mario Odyssey is overrated 🤓
@stuffenjoyer6677
@stuffenjoyer6677 8 ай бұрын
🤓
@the_zeldario
@the_zeldario 8 ай бұрын
no
@RevaliHeeHo
@RevaliHeeHo 8 ай бұрын
It actually is, just another Mario game from the bunch.
@traviscunningham7062
@traviscunningham7062 7 ай бұрын
No it isn’t. Mario 64 is the overrated one. People only like it because of nostalgia.
@BitchChill
@BitchChill 7 ай бұрын
Nintendo really created peak, that sold well then decided "Nah, we're not going to release paid DLC or make a sequel"
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