The MASSIVE Problem with UAD Native

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@stevensalinas669 Жыл бұрын

You are spot on with the subscription issues. I find it hard to buy in to plugins I can never own. So that makes me avoid it. The Apollo Solo and Apollo bundles were also a smart move and finally allowed me to join the UA club. The native concept was smart and also key to me joining the ecosystem finally. The fact that owning the plugins also gets you the native version is a solid product decision and they should never let that go. That’s why I continue to focus on owning the versions that are also native.

@eviloutionise 11 ай бұрын

Let’s not even talk about Ilok

@oinkooink 10 ай бұрын

Subscription is a stone cold con. But most people love it. Says a lot about most people. Doesn't it.

@jiovannijiuseppe 9 ай бұрын

@@oinkooinkI see a lot of down talking UAD, but correct me if I’m wrong UAD ultimate 11 are just about all native and a 1 time buys a huge array and you flat out own them

@oinkooink 9 ай бұрын

@@jiovannijiuseppe Flat out owning is fine. Subscription is for suckers and is social engineering and behaviour modification lite.

@eviloutionise 9 ай бұрын

@@oinkooink I wouldn’t say a stone cold con, and trust me I’m not a fan of the subscription (exclusively) model. I think if your a pro and it makes sense financially as part of your outgoings, then yea it can 100%. But how many users a making an actual “living” out of it vs those who aren’t. That’s where I see the issue.

@peacefulruler1 4 ай бұрын

Your business seminar sidechain was the best part of the vid to me; thanks!

@Professor_Pat Жыл бұрын

Thank you for covering this topic for us.

@raymondb8596 Жыл бұрын

Spot on! Excellent video…. Also you are touching on the phycology of how this is a mind game, especially to new producers who are just breaking in. All companies will hit then hard and fast before the new person realizes just what is going on…

@markszymanski1177 Жыл бұрын

I dont think you mentioned the whole point of UA was tracking through plugins, that did a pretty get job emulating hardware, in a near 0 latency situation. I was more used to tracking through a little bit of basic hardware, but the UA setup is nice. I can def see older school engineers migrating easy to UA as they kept the workflow very similar. But just for mixing? Yea, any plugin vendor will do. I only by on sale no matter who the company is so, the pricing is all pretty similar.

@spacelook9076 20 күн бұрын

Far from zero-latency! That's a total myth. UA have the most cunning copy-writers.

@grungefire Жыл бұрын

Totally agree. A financing option would have been great or even to have the ability to choose 2 or 3 plugins every 12 months. A more customer oriented service would have been brilliant. As it stands now. it's just something that only caters to a specific group of people. That being said, UAD plugins are awesome. Going native was a solid step into the future.

@Exitof99 Жыл бұрын

They offer monthly payments via Affirm, at least on the plugin bundles.

@davidcamarda8723 7 ай бұрын

Excellent vid, lots of essential points. Just today, bought Spark for $99 for a year. Seemed like a no brainer to me.

@bradleycross804 9 ай бұрын

I have a lot of love for UAD plugs because using just a uad-2 solo card back in the early 2000s I was able to compete with and wind projects over producers who had $20,000 pro tools rigs. When my laptop with a Express 34 card slot died I gave up UAD for along time. I did however miss them very much. I don't do subscription but lately have been picking up really great deals our native versions with the Tuesday special deals. Also I've gotten some $25 off coupons left in my account. So without hardware and without a subscription I have got some amazing deals on some fantastic plugs. Their quality it is second to none

@DeeKay68 6 ай бұрын

I have the exact same story. 🙋🏻‍♂️

@Cadet44642 Жыл бұрын

I agree, I can not fork out the money for the price or subscription. I will go to Waves unfortunately for UA. Also, I have so many compressor and EQ plug-ins at this point. I think I have 5 versions of an 1176. Everyone is giving their version away like candy during Halloween. At this point any upgrade I make now has to make a significant benefit to the production.

@brmbkl 9 ай бұрын

Waves aint cheap, and has issues as well.

@jovantrendmaker4722 Ай бұрын

While stock glue conoressor in ableton is just as good as 1176 if you know how to use it.

@DONPTV Жыл бұрын

100% agree with everything you saying. Does my head in when I'm out and not got internet and want to make some edits to a mix with UAD spark.

@therealliveguy Жыл бұрын

UAD plugins are expensive ONLY WHEN you pay full price. They have great sales monthly, half year and year end sales. Plus they don’t use your CPU with the DSP which is why i like them. You can load up a session and not effect your CPU at all, assuming you have enough DSP to handle them.

@xanderpills Жыл бұрын

I'm not sure if the CPU-load matters anymore. I use hundreds of plugins (no UAD) in a mixing session, and I really have to go overboard even with very CPU-intensive plugins to get to the max limit. And my Mac computer isn't high end by any means.

@e.d.8215 Жыл бұрын

The Apollo Solo can load just 2 to 3 plug-ins, then it's over. That is not up to date. The whole thing is almost consumer deception. The headphone amplifier is also mediocre in my opinion. It was advertised as the best headphone amplifier in its class. On the one hand, I now have UAD plug-ins, most of which are not included in Spark and thus cannot be loaded as ordinary plug-ins. On the other hand, I have third-party plugins that I can't load in UAD's console because I'm supposed to buy them from UAD again. The whole thing is ridiculous.

@therealliveguy Жыл бұрын

@@e.d.8215 Well yeah….an Apollo Solo wouldn’t help much. I’m referencing satellites. You would need at least a couple Octo’s to comfortably have a session with multiple UAD plugins.

@AudioLomtik Жыл бұрын

You make lots of great points and express your thoughts extremely well! The issue though, and the real reasons that not many successful musicians started out their career as Certified Public Accountants, is that that extra 5-10% of sound difference has a compounding/exponential effect on the listener, and historically made the difference on whether something ended up in the top 10 of the charts or not. Industries everywhere bemoan why 5-10% of the producers in that industry are making 90% of the profits, and this is why.... they realize the value of that last percentile. Thankfully I don't have to worry about beancounting when it comes to making music, its not what I do for a living. But the concept applies everywhere. That last few % makes all the difference in the world. Can it be quantified on paper to investors? Probably not. But I'm never letting an investor guide my musical decisions anyway.

@AudioLomtik Жыл бұрын

Also about subscriptions with software. This is a tough one, because I work in the software development industry and know all too well that software cannot just be purchased and expected to work correctly forever. The ecosystem around the software changes (patches to the OS can break existing applications and plugins or cause them to behave differently). And you can't just lay off programmers and hire more later when things break, you need the original crew that knows the product inside and out. And they are expensive... and you have to maintain that staff. And that costs. So who pays for that if you sell a perpetual license with an offer to maintain it for free going forward? Nobody can do that. It means you have to disconnect the laptop from the Internet and get what you can out of it until the hardware dies. Don't get me wrong I HATE subscription software models and this is one reason I am investing more in hardware that I can get multiple decades out of instead of plugins. But I get why subscriptions are necessary. Apple is the chief offender in all of this, developing for their platform is a nightmare because they constantly change the underlying hardware.... planned obsolesence at its best. Microsoft is much better about backward compatibility and why I use that as my DAW platform.

@Mars_Monkey Жыл бұрын

I agree with you about subscriptions, I also have the Roland Play4Life subscription. To add to the topic of subscriptions, I also have an issue with these update subscriptions like Waves and Native Instruments have. Those are also nefarious, I mean... if you purchase a product, why should you have to pay for update (not upgrade) costs to keep them operationally stable?

@Bthelick Жыл бұрын

The reason I stopped using UAD was Slate. They beat them at their own game, with no hardware tie, for far cheaper. And when they did that, UA had the cheek to charge double to update the plugins you already bought so they could keep up with slate (by adding the transformer and pre amp modelling slate had), AND if you did fall for that, you found that you could only run 1 or 2 of these new plugs on a $1000 card. They went from being Avids flexible alternative, to the same greedy anti consumer company as Avid.

@BlockBallerRecords Жыл бұрын

SLATE DIGITAL MIKE DEAN APPPROVED!!!

@brmbkl 9 ай бұрын

"beat them at their own game" different game. overused phrase, becomes meaningless.

@Bthelick 9 ай бұрын

@@brmbkl well if you don't understand it then sure, it's meaningless, to you. Let me clarify then: I mean before Slate arrived, UAD were the only plugin maker to be able to model analog processors with accuracy. not only did Slate surpass them, they did so on a more user-friendly business model with no hardware lockdown and fairer pricing, this was before the subscription option too. Is that making more sense?

@itsaboutthefeeling Жыл бұрын

Great explanation @busyworksbeats. I think Akai professional is a great example on what you are saying

@587583922 Жыл бұрын

This is actually really fantastic. I was never actually a huge fan of UAD. They had their place, but....at least for what I do, the value wasn't there. But....that's the case with the vast majority of plugins/companies.

@adw395 3 ай бұрын

Wow you’re great I really appreciate your thoughts 💭

@ChapmanMusic Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video. If I have a plugin that's available on both UAD h/w and native and I switch between using the h/w and without, does the DAW automatically switch between the two versions? So if I go native, do I have to unload the h/w plugin, reload the native equivalent and then reset the plugin settings? Thanks for your content :-)

@Vanilla_Sun Жыл бұрын

A bit late to the party, love the info and breaking down the business side of things. But I must say not needing to lug around my interface to use some of my go to plugins has been a massive game changer!

@marksinger5954 8 ай бұрын

Very interesting points. I agree with most of them. I don't think "elitism" is that much of a reason to buy a product. Ultimately, it's about monetization and you are spot on in that regard. Is that extra 10% worth multiples in cost? For the vast majority of musicians with DIY studios, making essentially no significant income, subscriptions are a real genuine problem. Especially when it's not just ONE that people find themselves entangled in. I used to subscribe to Composer Cloud by East West. Superficially, it was a wonderful deal but then I wanted to give them up because I was only really using a very tiny percentage of what they offered. Now, a couple of years later and I want to remix a couple of tracks. I neglected to stem what I had and I now need to find alternative instruments that I outright own instead. I will never go down the subscription route. Never. It's just poor value. You were very right to point out the value when it comes to Adobe type products which are rarely purchased by hobbyists, vs musical subscriptions which are probably majority hobbyists. Thanks for this enlightening discussion!

@MKD371 Жыл бұрын

In a perfect world, the model of subscription based plugins is no different. Ultimately if you feel the mix improves with the UAD plugins , that mix which has been created is there for all to hear, so it does in someway become permanent, certainly no less permanent than someone doing a business course or life-skills course, they still have to take that knowledge, or advantage they feel they are getting in the sonic world, with the plugins, and make something of it. Subscriptions are not entirely business savvy entirely, it does not work for everyone, however you can try the plugins for a few months, create some amazing material and then the rest is down to marketing and other factors in the industry. I for one am extremely please UAD are starting to put out plugins on a native platform, and unlike some pricey movie subscription, something constructive can be done with the plugins.

@OrangeMicMusic Жыл бұрын

I got an UAD interface before the Native thing. I got few plugins for my UAD and then I bought same plugins from Plugin Alliance (they are actually the same plugin developers selling for UAD and Plugin Alliance). When I compared them I realized they sound identical, so no need to spend money on UAD interfaces :)

@jimhardiman3836 Жыл бұрын

Specifically which plugins are the same?

@aydensherba Жыл бұрын

@@jimhardiman3836 I’ve never heard that before but I can believe it since the UAD tube tech and the Softube are the same plugin

@bigdoghat3827 10 ай бұрын

@@jimhardiman3836 Vertigo, Maag EQ, anything by Brainworx, Elysia compressors, Friedman amp sims and a few other amp sims. That's a few of them. Lately people have been complaining that they have the Plugin Alliance version and the UA version and they don't null. Dirk of PA said that they update their plugins with small sonic improvements behind the scenes now and again, UA is still using older code. That's why some no longer null. Anything UA I'm considering buying, I look to see if PA has it first due to the Native factor.

@brmbkl 9 ай бұрын

"I bought same plugins from Plugin Alliance (they are actually the same plugin developers selling for UAD and Plugin Alliance)." what are you even saying?

@OrangeMicMusic 9 ай бұрын

@@brmbklexample: Marshall JMP 2203, is sold for $80 on Softube's website (used to be sold on Plugin Alliance years ago), but on UAD website is $200. This plugin is made by Softube, not by UAD. And it's the same plugin, performs identical doesn't matter from where you buy it. Same with many other plugins sold on UAD's website.

@thehillcabin Жыл бұрын

Waves has similar issues with subscriptions, updating and backwards compatibility after updating when opening an old mixing session where you used the previous Waves Shell release.

@pansane Жыл бұрын

Love how you break down the business side of the music industry for everyone! Btw how do you feel about the rent-to-own option on Splice?

@prodbydramatic Жыл бұрын

its a rip off. i had it for the longest time and still dont own the korg plug in

@Hahejo Жыл бұрын

@@prodbydramatic That’s weird, my Studio One 4 and 5 purchases are complete and I own both with proper keys from Splice

@CoopMusic247 Жыл бұрын

They should give legacy owners of the UAD plugins a free VST native version.

@DaveJLamar Жыл бұрын

They do. I have almost all the plugins from Spark cuz I had the DSP versions of the plugins. So I purposefully bought all the plugins I wanted that were in spark over Black Friday, so now I have both DSP and native versions. Win win! Haha

@BYCWELL 5 ай бұрын

Yea they sure do, buy once and the native is free.

@CoopMusic247 5 ай бұрын

@@BYCWELL unfortunately, as I've looked into this a bit more, they offer some of them that you buy additionally for free, but of the ones that come with the Apollo, they do not do all of them. Possibly in the future though.

@BYCWELL 5 ай бұрын

Right all haven't come I was just referring to the ones that have been ported over.@@CoopMusic247

@lostee2001 9 ай бұрын

Maybe...the greatest video of all time.. thank you so much!

@djdonbentley2141 8 ай бұрын

Is UAD in the pro space bigger than the ssl company , which also has ssl plugins. Just asking cause I'm not a pro. Much respect. Don .

@isrealborn3743 Жыл бұрын

you keep it real...SALUTE!

@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios Жыл бұрын

FANTASTIC video!!

@adw395 3 ай бұрын

One question, so I brought the native UAD Electra 88 vintage keyboard will this plugin work without Kontact 7 ? I’m using windows 10 And Cubase 13 pro do need a dongle or does it work like all of my Waves plugins?

@Anders01 Жыл бұрын

I think it's great that UAD plugins can now be bought as a lifetime license. I'm curious to compare them to plugins from companies like Waves, iZotope and IK Multimedia. Also the UAD reverbs seem great and I want to compare them to reverbs from Acustica and Native Instruments.

@TheStevemiami Жыл бұрын

there reverbs are unmatched to me its worth spark alone

@drinkeatsound 20 күн бұрын

Does the summersale 2024 complete 12 version change perspective for the middle market? Now I can buy into the elite with 2K plus 1k Apollo.

@jayjackson6602 Жыл бұрын

Dawg you are completely spot on with this videos. Almost everything you brought up is exactly what I’ve always questioned about UAD. Like $300+ for a single plugin?? When Waves has its equivalent for $30. I’ve always felt at the end of the day the average music consumer can’t even come close to telling if you used their Pultec EQ or Waves (for example)…their Transient Shaper or Kilo Hearts’ FREE one. So like you mentioned, it’s really hard to justify why we as customers are paying hundreds of dollars for a plugin when the end result of your song or beat can still slap with plugins for less than half the price compared to using all UAD.

@busyworksbeats Жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing and for listening! I feel you 😎

@cefahprod Жыл бұрын

When Waves had...

@billesposito2112 Жыл бұрын

But they're not equivalent. That's why. The UA plugins that are expensive are the Unison tech plugins. So when I select a Unison Tech plugin like for instance the SSL 4000 .Or like you said the Pultec which is also available in Unison Tech form. My Apollo interface goes thru a change physically and all the impedances change to become that SSL Unit or that Pultec. I have both SSL plugins. NO COMPARISON when the UA is in the Unison Tech slot. Night and Day difference. They have the legacy versions for people without Apollo Interfaces who just want a basic plugin . And they are a lot less money. And even those ones are better than waves. UA has been making these units since there fifties. Waves only came out with software . UA has a lot more knowledge and years of experience building the real stuff. You get what you pay for. Why would all the pro engineers use UA products if it wasn't worth it ?

@TheeRocker 6 ай бұрын

@@billesposito2112 ,,, not all the pro's use UA my friend...

@BYCWELL 5 ай бұрын

yup tracking live is a big push of the Apollo. I don't think it's just a dongle as many have said. It offers a physical interface to help you record a bit easier, it also saves configurations (both in console) and if when you turn it back on it goes back to where it was before. As @@billesposito2112 mentioned it also have UNISON.

@tendernessforthemonster4517 9 ай бұрын

He may sound ridiculous about "buying status" but He is soooo right about it! in the industry here in Nashville TN, great gear or 'hard to get' gear including plug-ins does give you a certain status, of course it comes down to what you can do with it. But recently it is starting to make more sense to go for a Waves version for someone stating out that doesn't own an Apollo, you get to have more stuff and more opportunities to learn how to use different gear.

@Dream-bw8sv Жыл бұрын

So if I buy a uad plugin full no payments u still need internet to use it or after I pay for it it works regardless of internet

@dab7963 Жыл бұрын

Like you I have thousands invested in the Apollo plugins and I know that I will get all of the ones I already purchased that go into spark but if they don't go into spark am I still entitled to receive them seems unfair if that is not the case

@jonneves01 6 ай бұрын

I've been trying to 'warn' UA in their FB forums about not catering for existing customers for a very long time now but they don't seem to be listening, which is very unfortunate...in fact I was the one who suggested that PA should adopt their now very successful 'rent-to-own' model in one of their posts a long long time ago, and look at where it's taken them. Not saying I was solely responsible for it but at the time they posted something on FB asking us what did we think about them adopting this subscription model, and that was my answer to it (didn't see anyone else talking about it but got a reply from the main guy at the time thanking me for it). Anyway my point is I agree with everything you said, so well done for putting out this video. Who knows, maybe now they will start listening. Both Avid and Waves did, so why not UA....

@crescentmoon54 Жыл бұрын

deciding whether to purchase pulsar audio massive or wait for universal audio to release a native version of uad massive.... I'm not too optimistic about massive native being released anytime soon....

@GarfRichards Жыл бұрын

I agree about justifying this price if there are marginal differences with plugins. Ultimately, is the end user really going to notice?

@Judasz696 11 ай бұрын

Does UAD plugins work best with apollos audio interfaces?

@peterk3556 Жыл бұрын

So they said if you buy a volt Interface i think a new one you get the compressors for free untill the 30.04.23 can i use them ? If i buy it ??? Or does it tell me you need a apollo twin ???

@JohnFraserFindlay Жыл бұрын

Great points man!

@musicnatin3733 3 ай бұрын

Facts.. thats why I'm using plugin alliance mega bundle💯

@HuttyTheKid Жыл бұрын

Ouu I like this style of video!

@geebee44 Жыл бұрын

The subscription model in most cases becomes this "support" of them thing... as in "child support." these companies like any other software company have to address defects, as well as deliver a certain amoutn of improvement over time. A new user buying the software will always get whatever the latest version is, but these companies have developed an expectation of being taken care of buy existing customer. Only a handful of them actually GIVE something every now and then to it's customer base. Over time the subscription price everntually outweighs the purchase price.

@EricRabb Жыл бұрын

Correct! No way I’d buy into subscription based tier without ownership.

@anthemmakersmusic 8 ай бұрын

Its the essentials so that you can get an idea down on the go. Leaving you time to finish that idea at a larger facility.

@ColdheartCuzo 4 ай бұрын

I love them and I wouldn’t use anything but their product’s honestly as far as the price they absolutely deserve that and more them giving people a chance to LEARN AND EXPERIMENT from home is a privilege.

@d.m.ebeats9013 Жыл бұрын

Your point is so correct is like a demo trial,it makes no sense,why give a small out of a massive.they should really see what waves,softube and plugin alliance are doing and fully learn,

@MrAxel1892 Жыл бұрын

Lot of words… since I started this 4$/month native packet three new plugins came out. For free. And there’s more to come. These fx are killer.

@djtwilite318 Жыл бұрын

thanks for the vid. i bought in to uad apollo and it came with a satellite free and it works great but you cant use a lot of instances of the plugins unless u get more satellites. then i stumble upon waves soundgrid.. night and day difference. if i knew what I know now i would of went with waves soundgrid. you can use them with the impact server or native. with the server you can run hundreds of instances of the plugins. i got the impact server and horizon bundle for 800 at the time i just upgraded to mercury for 400 and waves came out with 2 plugins that are included in the mercury bundle and i got those for free last month.. i tell anyone i know i choose waves over uad any day for bang for buck work..

@uncanny_telepathy Жыл бұрын

I’ve been on the fence about UAD for awhile now. Reading your comment solidified my investment in the Waves ecosystems!!! Thank you for your time.

@dna598 Жыл бұрын

I'm a new UADx perpetual customer. After years (decades) without buying into the DSP, I gotta say UAD lives up to the hype. Pure Quality. Even their old plugs can still be better than new interpretations of certain hardware from arturia and others. I'll only buy on sale tho!

@JoeyFTL Жыл бұрын

Can you name some favorites?

@Sebastianandthedeepbluemusic Жыл бұрын

I dig the volt 76p i got. And came with some plugs. But of course you have to have Internet to use the plugs. I wanted to use the verb for a live gig. When got ready to play the verb wouldn’t load unless i got online…. So i went with fuse audio verb. Volt is great for mobile recording tho. Plugins still annoying unfortunately

@SecretEntertainmentt Жыл бұрын

yo facts about that gta part you went in to. that price stayed at $50 for years

@ThreeBelowZero Жыл бұрын

I'm about to change my interface (currently using an SSL 2+) and I'm looking for a Apollo Twin X Quad Heritage because of all this UAD plugins. I make beats and also mix when the singers record my beats. Should I get the Apollo Twin X Quad Heritage? I mean, it looks like if I am not recording there's no point. Am I wrong?

@glyman1212 4 ай бұрын

Ssl2plus sounds better

@jghosttheconscious Жыл бұрын

The plug-ins in spark you get free if you own them prior.

@Bthelick Жыл бұрын

Subscriptions are going to die out, they make zero sense in music. I've been a professional musician and producer for 15 years, it's my sole income, and for all that time, income is all over the place year to year, that's just the nature of music as a living. Renting licences penitently for life is just untenable. I'm not going to rent the plugs until I can't afford them, and then lose every session I used them on. Ridiculous.

@stevesanyal 6 ай бұрын

I bought the Volt last summer and there was no real pull to get the UAD plugins. However, after upgrading to the Apollo, I got a bunch of plugins with the purchase and the value is pretty hard to argue with.

@wellsyboy Жыл бұрын

Smart man - instant subscribe!

@busyworksbeats Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@DONPTV Жыл бұрын

Serum did that rent to buy option and I did it, even if you paused it, what you paid was still in the bank!

@angelomckenzie4122 Жыл бұрын

bless up mi gee

@ByeDave Ай бұрын

Bruh i bought the 50 dollar bundle and forgot to read the requirements with the mac os. It dont work on my 2015 macbook pro :/

@ContentScientist Жыл бұрын

Yeah man, Monetizing is having a HUGE EFFECT on everything. I have UAD and LUNA and APOLLO, but I cannot use SHAPE outside of LUNA, which doesn't make any sense. They have the other plugins available, but I already a Synth and a Moog and a Piano....For me, SHAPE is the undeniable GEM in LUNA, but you can't get access to it outside of LUNA...

@PL-808 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for pointing out the UAD plug-in issues. I recently bought some (native) and I got the same issues you got. Could not continue working if no internet or using early y2k-style USB key. I could never imagine this was the case. Have Apogee, Soundtoys, SSL, Waves and many more that works great, at all times. I don’t use the UAD for the same reason you mention. Bad decision from UAD 😠 Not cool

@ralphacquaro6134 Жыл бұрын

The reason I went subscription on most of my plug ins is because even with ownership, you never really own it due to the fact that in a year they'll try to charge you $50-$100 per plug in to update.

@saltersbdavisiv5430 Жыл бұрын

Closed Caption is saying not available, need it to work...two of them so far not working.

@stephenwiley5617 Жыл бұрын

You get what you pay for. Some people have the luxury to buy more expensive hardware and plugins, others have to go a cheaper route. There's plenty of flavors and price structures out there for everyone. UA's 3 bundles that they are selling right now are pretty fairly priced. That's a ton of plugin's for less than 1k.

@ContentScientist Жыл бұрын

Can you explain why you chose FL Studio as a DAW since you have the money to use any DAW of Choice...

@collateral-beauty 4 ай бұрын

Probably because is better than you can think ... the last version has great improvements and you pay only one time, lifetime free upgrade... it's not fruity it's FL studio

@Sleeplessnights007 3 ай бұрын

Best advice for anyone... is use what you can afford and learn it well because its not how good the plugin is, its how good you are with the plugins. You can make bangers with cheap plugins too dont be fooled

@kevinnewton9574 Жыл бұрын

? After purchased a volt I kno u get plugins u already own from ur apollo in ur account for ur volt. Can u then use the plugins without a volt if u wanna work on a beat on a laptop since they are native ?

@busyworksbeats Жыл бұрын

I'd assume so, only the native ones, I'd assume. That being the main benefit of native.

@ContentScientist Жыл бұрын

Have you tried using LUNA....I think it's wonderful if you're a Pro Tools Guy - meaning you do a lot of tracking and recording, not MIDI work....

@mmartin7079 6 ай бұрын

Currently there are 36 or so plugins available through Spark. I got a holiday discount code for $99 for the first year and $149/yr after that. So for less than $1500 spread out over ten years I have access to those 36 native plugs plus whatever they add in the future. Or with the current sale I can bundle 20 plugins for $999, more than the cost of 6 years of Spark. In six years will we even be using DAWs and plugins? Spark was an easy choice for me.

@billesposito2112 Жыл бұрын

It's a low monthly subscription and you get massive plugins. And they add more just about every month. Spark is awesome I think . Just the API would take you a couple years at that price and u get a ton more plugins. I would rather spaend a little and be able to cancel at anytime then come up with a lot of money for ONE plugin and if you don't use it you're stuck with it.

@busyworksbeats Жыл бұрын

That's an interesting perspective. Do they allow you to own anything after the annual subscription? Isn't that just one long demo? My main objection is that it will force people to make a business of what most deem a hobby. As a consumer, I want to own what I buy.

@pecos_music Жыл бұрын

Seems line the new status will be to get the high end outboard stuff… maybe it’s circle-ing back

@citronialandmark476 10 ай бұрын

I never liked subscription based purchasing. I use both waves and UAD and funny enough I have similar plug ins from each one. I like the flexibility of both plus I only buy on sale. Once you get a nice amount that do everything you need. You're good to go. The key is learn how use what you've got and make sure you only buy what you cannot do without. After all its a cost of doing business but it is a business. If your revenue isn't matching your overhead can get out of hand real quick. I say like smokey's mom on the Friday movie " Make it Enough " lol

@travenlee Жыл бұрын

To me acustica actually sound the most like the hardware the plugs are just pretty heavy on the systems

@traezaX1 Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂 they'd sink the titanic

@atrocity2153 Жыл бұрын

Man where do u get ur hoody from I can't find one to save my life

@busyworksbeats Жыл бұрын

Producergrind but I don't think they have any for sale atm :(

@Bthelick Жыл бұрын

Same. years ago I had a big uad and uad2 rigs with multiple cards for professional work. Anyways I realised how underpowered they were when sonnox released their native plugins as a UAD option, it was the first time we could compare. Then Slate arrived and beat them at their own game so I dropped the platform. 8 years later When I heard announced going native, I thought a) of course and b) I wonder how much of my £8000 ($15k then) of plugins I spent will be available to use? The answer = £0. They got their money out of me they won't get any more.

@therealliveguy Жыл бұрын

That’s not true about not being able to use the UAD native plugs. If you bought the plugins and they have them on the Spark level plan, you get those plugins for free in native format. They don’t put all the UAD plugs in Spark, but the ones that are there are there for you if you bought them with your DSP.

@Bthelick Жыл бұрын

@@therealliveguy I know, I'm talking about my personal connection. None of my 15k's worth of plugins I bought are available native.

@angelolovato6739 Жыл бұрын

What interface you using now ?

@brmbkl 9 ай бұрын

"Anyways I realised how underpowered they were when sonnox released their native plugins as a UAD option, it was the first time we could compare. " how would one compare a dsp to a general use cpu?

@TrapBoiFuse561 Жыл бұрын

17:33 plug-in alliance do that 10 months payment plan

@nkingofficial Ай бұрын

I did the trial from UA plugins... I can't even find the plugins. I have everything in my custom folder for vst's, and my daw won't for the life of me, find the universal audio plugins

@kenvives 11 ай бұрын

Very insightful. You really helped me think about plugins as investments.

@wadewilliams1892 Жыл бұрын

If the hardware costs £5000 - UA took the time and modelled it to be the closest on the market - sell the consumer this in accurate plug-in format - for £150 (own it for life) that is huge value for the consumer - that’s around 3000% value …it’s a business offering true value to pro users…I think people need to stop jumping on UA’s back. If you want other versions which are not as authentic but decent you have that choice. Too much choice is causing this issue.

@brianlespoir6287 5 ай бұрын

Back in the day I used to have a TC Electronic PowerCore and learned the hard way that these hardware dsp's needed to be replaced sooner or later and maybe the company quits support. Lost a lot of money, so I never bought UAD, now I have most plugins that I like and use, so no need for UAD plugins, but I might try a few to see what it is all about, but I will never do subscription.

@kenneth-roberts Жыл бұрын

Softube offers amazing quality at a much better price. And they've never required you to buy an interface (aka expensive dongle).

@busyworksbeats Жыл бұрын

*expensive dongle* that part

@therealliveguy Жыл бұрын

the Dongle is DSP. People always leave this part out. And Softube isn’t cheap. Plug-in Alliance is great and affordable (with the sales and coupons), but Softube is just as expensive as UAD.

@DasWurst441 10 ай бұрын

So in phase with what you'r saying, there is a big gap between some of the companie's pricing policy and the reality of some professionals (And I mean professionals) in the business.

@TheDefensivemaniac Жыл бұрын

My beef with UAD is that they didnt give an all access pass to ALL of there plugs ins so you can experiment. Slate Digital is killing the game with there $15 full access pass.

@themaccasboy Жыл бұрын

They go for the masses with volt and try and sell subscription based plugins (which I guess the masses won't get into as they just want to produce music in a home studio), so straight off the block they've potentially missed their largest laudience! Now you don't need the hardware, I think stock plugins will be used in the main and companies like UAD will be forced to compete will all other companies producing plugins that can just be used as is in memory. In your Bedroom. :)

@beatprocess 7 ай бұрын

UAD is poppin right now!!

@jovantrendmaker4722 Ай бұрын

Uad for me was gold 15 years ago when plugins were really not that good in 2024 you can mix with stock plugins and you buy few that you really need

@awal7561 Жыл бұрын

What if you already have some , pre the native is there an issue

@busyworksbeats Жыл бұрын

I think they offer the native plugins FREE if you own the other matching plugin which was not the native version. But please check their support documentation

@therealliveguy Жыл бұрын

Native UAD plug-ins on the Spark plan that you purchased before Spark are 100% free.

@dreamkatari Жыл бұрын

So i can load up my USD plugins like normal plugins right in my daw now eh

@risingphoenix1484 Жыл бұрын

You don’t need to buy the interface back in the day I just used a UAD-2 worth the money….and you only need about 5 mixing pieces of software regardless what you use….

@davidasher22 Жыл бұрын

Pocket pincher is actually 2 words.

@fabfab4453 9 ай бұрын

Everybody's got something to say...why complain ?? you can own them with dsp, native or just rent them with spark and that's great !

@jackcampbell3356 Жыл бұрын

Some clarifications: since Feb 14th, UADx now offers rent-to-own financing options via 3P retailers and doesn't require a subscription (perpetual licenses available). Problem solved! :)

@Swiftopher755 Жыл бұрын

Which site is offering this please

@jackcampbell3356 Жыл бұрын

@@Swiftopher755 Sweetwater is one, but probably others

@jaywinterbrook 3 ай бұрын

The massive problem with UAD plug-ins in general is it often doesn’t connect.

@ettiennelane9173 6 ай бұрын

I'm glad I got the LA-2A for free since I would've regretted buying any UAD plugins. It writes a settings.dat file in the project folder that does not wanna backup to the cloud en then prevents all my other files from being backed up. I uninstalled all UAD software and won't look back.

@jfn467 Жыл бұрын

For developers, there are two choices only, either subscriptions, or SLA (like the Waves WUP), there's no way to keep producing and selling licences with free upgrades forever, too much development going on these days both with hardware/OS and DAW plugin compatibility. Pick a winner.

@doktahyde Жыл бұрын

@32:00 IS THE TRUTH. That's why I'm tryin to sell my MPC's. MAybe just keep my live and X. The software lets everyone on the game. It's like when they dropped the price of Logic from 999 to 199. It made it less exclusive and showed you don't need to throw money at software anymore. Just buy quality hardware. You can resell it and it sounds great.

@skbevila Жыл бұрын

Hmm … trying to follow but this is really confusing. Are you familiar with UA’s history? Not trying to diss, but it seems like perhaps you are not. For a company with a history as rich as theirs, they are providing a LOT of options for different price ranges but all of their gear (software or hardware) is absolutely made for serious musicians and producers. Also, if your business plan is built around the plug-ins you own or the tools you use, then you’ve got things a bit are backwards. People hire based on skill, taste & your relationships / connections.

@busyworksbeats Жыл бұрын

I'm not debating your point. The new interface and Mics are targeting the podcast market. For people who are not in the music world, I mentioned the missing value ladder.