Hi Mike! I've watched your videos about some TAB scores and how bad they are transcripted some times. Would you recommend using scores or better try to guess what they do by ear directly?

Anyone else remember these days just eating all kinds of jacked up? You wanted to assume it was legit but realized it was probably some guy being paid below minimum wage to crank all these books out? LOL

Dude. I was given this book when I was 16 years old. But I didn't figure out that any of it was incorrect! Wow, you've certainly enlightened me! The way you play the riffs certainly sounds heavier! But I did try that 'pull the string off the fretboard' trick more than once. Damn!

I have many of these boojs.played slot of guitar,early to late 90,s.I figured out,20 in 1995 the dive part.back then. And the g with the 3 open strinds,and d chords..I learned back then myself,it didn't sound right. I talked with 2 or 3 techs online early 2000s.they all said,they thought the author of those books,prob did slot of coke,writing the tabs.

2:58 maybe the dude had buckers? I mean don’t get me wrong - ridiculous. Just sayin.

The British version- Master of Crumpets.

The serial killer who uses shotguns to kill women he thinks are sluts version: Blaster of Strumpets

there's a dog obedience guy in Australia called Master Of Puppies - wholesome.

The actual Metallica font is named Pastor of Muppets 😅

The interpretive jazz version - Jazzster of Trumpets

what...you meen its perfekt or what...if so,i did not get it. there is all these open e along whit 7freet on a.string"also e" and the say to play it 16times in strait line

@@anderschristensen4072 think its a joke bcs the bass is barely audible on AJFA so it will sound good anyway lol

@@jonaskragt3006 “barely audible” might be giving it a bit too much credit

"there's actually no bass part here" (angry cliff, robert, jason, and ron noises)

@@AsianCole lmfaoo

Same. I got a few tab books that are way off, and now I know how the songs are actually played I fuck up all the right notes.

Me too! I had the cunning stunts VHS, that helped me see that everything on these books was horrible, could not get the songs from the video anyways I had to have some help, I only knew something was wrong, then, I noticed they tuned to Eb... and the gates of the kingdom of guitar greatness opened up before my eyes!!! :)

@@albertosotelo9969 I love Eb. My favorite tuning by far. It's a lot moodier than E, but it's not too low and dark, either.

Me too

It is frustrating when this is all you had to go by

Same here, I still never learned a lot of stuff off Justice, I had these books when I was around 15, I'm 37 now ugh. Memories hahaha

I love when two worlds collide like this, what's up Simon!

I got the Death Magnetic tab book for Christmas and damn the All Nightmare Long solo was something to behold

Yeah me too...never imagined that the tab was just wrong, especially after paying all that money for it!!

I was just watching one of your videos and then I see you on the next video in the comment section? Simon you really are the man.

Did you change your name because of Andriy’s video?

@@sleepdeep305 yes

Some days I'm happy ya know, life is good and my brain goes "hey daily reminder that the MOP Tab book made the bass solo in Orion labeled as a guitar solo" and I start to choke on pure cringe. I die thinking of that.

Tbf it's a guitar tab book, I like that they do that because I don't have a bass. I'm sure it's also in the bass tab book

@@logan6576 it is not....

James probably is a virtuoso though

@@turntogod4410 no, even he states they are “ok” as musicians

​@leagueofotters2774 he is just humble. James is easily one of the best rythm players ever

Me too!

@@anthonykargoglou7205 there is no such a thing as "ryhtm player", you are either playing the all thing or not. James is just a ok "guitar player" but amazing artist.

I read an interview years ago where he explains that. I'm glad I'm not the only one who did their homework.

You guys are referencing the wrong part he's talking about. Yes, there is a part where he pulls the string off the fretboard on the 19th fret and produces a high pitched sound. This isn't the part he's referencing. There's a part where he actually hits a pinch harmonic and jumps on the whammy bar, and the book says to pull the string off the fretboard,, all the way to the pickup, then hit the whammy. He did his homework.

@@jamofx2963 that's why the original commenter said "earlier in the same solo"

Yea you can hear it in the isolated recording. It's the little pull offs after the trem picking (after the first lick).

@@jamofx2963 Which part of the song is the accident kirk talks about? Been trying to find it.

Alot of these books were transcribed by pianists.

A lot of the guys back then used these little half speed machines and the pitch would change and then they would make an educated guess as to how it was recorded… it was a job with deadlines. And there were no KZfaq videos to reference, and thrash metal was a fairly new groundbreaking genre

@@poopsebeb yeah, i'd figured the guys writing these tabs wouldn't see nor remember how Metallica plays them, that 22 fret solo bit is possibly the fault of that

No way. It's a clear sabotage: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sJuihb2VztuVhXk.html

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And it has to be the full bar chord, not the open chord.

I gotta imagine some can play and that sometimes they're like "Yeah, this'll really mess with their brains haha...."

I’ve had the same questions

I have read many in recent times thinking it's drop D. They must have a really shit ear as it sounds nothing like drop D whatsoever

I still thought it was thanks to this book!

What's funny is it's also not in D. Kirk said it's Db in the Gibson icons interview because they wanted to make it even heavier.

Same with people thinking Pantera - Walk is in drop D, where it is actually in D standard

@@tellemstevedave5559 It also debunks Bob Rock's "theory" that he introduced them to lower tunings.

You’d imagine the tabs for the solos are just like the lotto results - just a stream of random numbers.

Slayers tab book is 0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0

@@AkkayHT228 And these "official" books just might fuck that up, too! 😂😂

They are confusing properly tabbed

I have a couple slayer tab books and actually for the most part they seem right. But yeah i dont see homie being a real slayer fan...

The "we sold our soul for rock n roll" is full of errors, wrong tunings, missing notes...NOTHING in there is accurate😂 They even have Sabbath Bloody Sabbath in the wrong key!

Definitely the Paranoid riff…even Rhoads plays it wrong on Tribute

Internet tabs are almost all wrong so tab books might also be

@@Homie3794 Probably couldn't have played it exactly for risk of copyright infringement, but that's just an assumption on my part.

Like paranoid being played at the seventh fret

God Christ Jesus bless you both, have wonderful day my broskis

@@joshua2400 my parents were killed in a car crash

More like,play it like we wrote it.

me too make me can't play guitar..

I'd love to see that lol. If you do happen to meet them, please film it lol.

Been there!

I concur...

Yeah.... holy shit... the Master of Puppets tab book has everything played double and backwards.... like wtf... suprised he didn't mention the bridge to Puppets or the solo to Orion...

Yes!

Same here.... They were into "boring" music and only did this for monetary reasons.

Actually it’s misunderstood. The part he pulls off the fretboard was right before the harmonic whammy bar part. You can hear it as he’s doing his phrase.

@@TheArtofGuitar Ah my mistake! of course you knew that🤣

@@TheArtofGuitar I just learned something. Always thought the part where he pulled the string off was the harmonic too. Dang I may have a chance of playing this now LOL

You caught that... much agreed.

So the tab book was.... Trash? I'll show myself out.

that's true..😭😭

Facts bruh

I wouldn't be surprised if it was actually a Mustaine riff that they didn't credit him for. Over the years they've slowly changed their tune from "nope he has nothing to do with it" to "ok maybe he inspired it", while sounding nothing like anything they've wrote before or since.

@@dumpsterplayer5133 yeah but that was a mistake on the tab book not how the actual riff is played

it was a Mustaine riff

Mustaine mentioned that they used one of his riffs in that section so I wouldn't be surprised. I also would be surprised if Mustaine's memory is off.

Also forgot I think he said it was from an earlier song they were writing titled The Hills Ran Red.

Idk about the other albums but the master of puppets book has been revised since at least 2009

need to renew metallica all guitar tabs books..😭

I bought mine new back in the day, and I've been playing some shit wrong ever since,your not alone bro,lol.

Yeah but it wasn't during that part. If I remember correctly he pulled the string off the fretboard during the faster climbing part

Kirk did pull off the string, but it was during the quick descending lick before the harmonic, but ur right he did

Because they are wrong and that's the point of the video?

Because they assume that you are playing alone and wants you to cover more frequency spectrum for a fuller sound maybe.

My bet is that it’s transcribed by non-guitarists using something like guitar pro to translate the notation to tab.

@@K1llerTunes Absolutely not! You couldn't be further from the truth. All of these tab books mentioned in this video series were made before Guitar Pro was even invented. The transcribers knew more about notation than tab back then. There are a few factors that make the end result so bad for these books. The first one being "time = money" which means that the company wants the product to be done as quickly as possible, which leads the transcribers to hurry up getting finished and that of course means that they often make many mistakes. Another one is that back in the days of these books, you couldn't just go online and get live footage for how bands played their songs, so there was not as much information like that available. Yet another reason is that sometimes the transcribers working on these books weren't necessarily all that familiar with the genre, which makes things much harder. That fact, in combination with how distortion works, makes it somewhat understandable that they could hear a distorted power chord and imagine that it's a full major chord, simply because distortion introduces harmonics to the sound (check out "harmonic distortion" if you want to learn more about how that works). These added harmonics are in no way near as impactful as the actual notes played, but it's sometimes enough to fool the ear that a major chord is played when it's actually just a heavily distorted power chord. With more experience in the genre, you'd know that, and you'd be less inclined to make that mistake. The bottom line is that the companies selling these books don't really care if the end result is 100% accurate, they just want the product out on the market as quickly as possible to make as much money as possible, and enough people are bying the books to justify their actions even though many people complain. Thankfully, newer companies like Sheet Happens are working together with the artists to create more accurate tab books, but the downside (at least for someone old-school like me) is that they only have the rhythmic tab staff from Guitar Pro, no standard notation.

@@adboss145 No, that's not what they're doing. It has to do with how distortion works. It introduces harmonics to the sound (check out "harmonic distortion" if you want to learn more about how that works). These added harmonics are in no way near as impactful as the actual notes played, but it's sometimes enough to fool the ear that a major chord is played when it's actually just a heavily distorted power chord, and this is especially true if you aren't that familiar with the genre of music that you're transcribing.

Agreed. I read that in a guitar mag interview with Kirk right after MOP was released.

Try Evan Bradley’s tabs…spot on (he is on you tube)