That's what she said.

thank u

@@emgimeer8212 All this talk about the future doesn't matter because we're in the present. And in the present, yes the Metaverse, NFTs, and Crypto looks like a bunch of scammers. Because it's only a bunch of scammers or a bunch of rich people riding the trend. Unless you can show it's value and worth as a system (beyond being a shittier way of doing things) NOW, there is no reason to even consider "oh the representation will clean up later" or "NFTs will be in the background" because that does very little right now. Like Eddie said, "but what are they offering now?"

Yo, did watch the LTT on that topic? You should try the spam bot tool out, it seems to work really well

Topic for next video? I report whenever I see them, but it comes so quick. The "new" thing is verified accounts that copy and paste totally harmless comments, so when I report it's spam, I'm _sure_ the YT doesn't understand why.

God, teen me would've loved this. But also I was a kid with depression, anxiety, divorced parents, had just moved to a new town and undiagnosed ADHD. So of course, I would've loved this idea. But now, in my mid to late 20s, I'm just like... this sounds like a fucking nightmare. I don't want to be on the Internet everyday, but due to Covid and such, it's the only thing I have right now. It's just, yeah, it is a scary thought.

Ro Ramdin made a great video on this a couple months ago also talking about this :)

True, its just a no no. look at the beautiful nature and life. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mbV4dcl4kr_egnU.html

VRChat.

When real life sucks for enough people, they're more than ready to hop into an alternate

Error does not compute

Imagine just sitting in a room alone. With a vr headset on. Sitting in a vr room. Alone.

But it’s a nicer room than the room than I’m in, and in VR I don’t have to go to the bathroom, because there’s no module for it yet. I’m not sure what happens IRL, but as long as I stay in metabubble, I’m sure everything will be fine.

Ah, but you can't get ads when you log off. #wesmart

by 2040 logging off from the metaverse will result in an instant fine

IDK walkabout minigolf VR while drinking with a bunch of friends that live all around the world is pretty damn good too.

@@evolicious What are you going to be drinking, cyber beer? Or are you gonna be drinking your own beer at home, in which case, why not omit that part if it’s not part of the VR experience itself?

@@evolicious i feel like half the appeal of mini golf is being out in the sun and enjoying the weather with your friends

⁠@@realleon2328walkabout does it well. It gives you the ability to play minigolf in places where minigolf cannot be played in real life (like on a space station, or under the ocean, or in an MC Escher painting) with up to 8 people, no matter the distance. I moved last year and Walkabout has been a great way to do something with my friends from afar without being able to be in their area and without tying me to siting at my PC, which I have to do all day for work. The problem is people are treating VR like it’s trying to take over real life experiences, when right now it excels best at supplementing existing entertainment choices.

You don't understand. Metaverse has NFTs. Why would you want to see your friends and family when you can buy an NFT?

The no legs thing is extremely lame. We have a population of people who are a lot more sophisticated than a pre-schooler. Did they refuse to pay their modellers/animators for more than a couple of days work?

@@TiffyVella1 The budget was in the billions so I think it was probably to save some time

It's funny, because it sounds like they *want* to add legs eventually, which is why the models just have empty space below them as opposed to something like Rec Room, they just...don't want to at the same time, I guess?

@@damienearl8302 As a modeler, and someone who knows about character creation, and animation, it is utterly, UTTERLY ridiculous not to just include the entire avatar from the beginning. Did they just fire the team too early and expect the last worker to quickly tidy up? Or are they so childish that they believe avatars don't exist from the waist down? It makes no sense at all.

@@TiffyVella1 I almost feel like they're just trying to make people believe these things are harder than they actually are, and are absolutely failing in the process

Exactly. It’s actually crazy how much were bombarded with advertisements in the real world and the internet everyday.

I'm thankful that most of the music I like is by hobos for hobos, I'll never have to feel like I'm missing out on some chucklefuck hatsune-miku-nightmare-zone 3-D TV concert ft. Ads.

Unfortunately it's mostly the same idea every time you visit a website, or hell, drive down the street

@@edaj1990 I recently came to a realization that customers at retail stores don’t read signs anymore for that exact reason. We’re forced to just block out anything that even _looks_ like an ad.

we black mirror now

it's a barebones sh1tty version of second life.

It's Ready Player One in real life... even though Ready Player One takes place in a litteral dystopia.

@@dws49 So does real life! Oh, I made myself sad.

So its like a watered down vrchat?

@@dws49 damn you beat me to it. was gonna say Mark probably watched/read Ready Player One ten too many times and is trying to make it real, but kinda failing.

i'm pretty sure a majority of ppl feel the same way and i deff think it's because that's exactly what's going on. or like an intelligent extraterrestrial being who was sent to whatever the fuck ivy league to learn human behavior and more importantly social connection and he got too cocky too fast so dropped out and became successful in human and/or his species' societal role/purpose quickly but without all the fundamental pieces of authentic human interaction, he believed facebook would suffice for collecting the vital information and knowledge of blending into the human species. but now zucky is in the shit too deep and now slowly the facade is starting to fall apart especially taking into account earth's oxygen which is probably fucking up his extraterrestrial biological functions or something. or he's just like, a deep fake or clone or some shit idfk alls i do know is zucky is so extremely uncomfortable to witness.

He looks like he's wearing a skin suit.

it's like he's trying so hard to appear and immitate "natural" body language

He literally looks like a deepfake

Watching Mark on the couch cutting to Eddy and back, Mark really really looks like it was made by a computer.

Well it would be if it was working but it’s cratering still in the present and metaverse is now a place people go as a meme. Any normal people get run off pretty quick by the weirdos wanting the meme. If you haven’t been on I highly recommend. I have laughed harder on Vr meta than anywhere else due to sheer absurdity

Shia LaBeouf has a solid point!

@@kieleleron85768 for once

honestly, they were probably hoping to drop the idea earlier, but the legal issues and fine probably set them back. $5bil? why do you think it looks like knock-off apple memojis? 😂 now he's likely capitalizing on people's fear of going outside. i know of more than a few people who have developed some agoraphobia due to lockdowns.

My thoughts exactly! I can't wait to NOT video chat anymore and actually meet people in real life! I don't want to shop online, I want to go to shops and flea markets and yard sales and whatever! I want to travel and experience things in real life that make me forget to check my phone!

@@CausaBrevitatis same!

Couldn't agree more

… I wonder if he would have rights to the experiences and products thereof… he could delete photos/videos if at any point, they violate terms and conditions…… he could sue for royalties of music and art created within the metaverse…

That's so weird to me because there are people who struggle soooo bad with that irl and I just get sad thinking they might get sucked into it

Yes and it's so creepy that he talks about it so casually, like he wants to own everything and everyone

Damn well said

Metaverses already existed, and have existed since internet social apps became a thing. Long before Facebook and mainstream social media existed.

I feel like they really bronzed him up for the meta verse video too. Probably a calculated decision to make him look less like the subject of a cursed painting.

Yeah, the ZuckAI is not really impressive, at no point does he appear even remotely human.

It scared me at first too but with hindsight and upon further inspection I think it is actually just extremely stupid.

He probably looks the most human in this footage too. So yeah...

do you think people are seriously going to buy/sign up for metaverse? i garuntee you that there will be like a 100 trolls at best entering servers for few months before the meme dies and they move back to Vrchat.

Wish it was the old days when we didn’t have dentists 🦷 and we where ruled by kings and queens who died of every known plague to man. Heheheh

@@nothin1456 what?

@@nothin1456 are you comparing vrchat: garbage edition to medical science

Damn corpo scum. Have you heard Samurai? They've got some pretty radical ideas.

I'm pretty happy about this new development. It feels like people are slowly growing wise to the fact that just because something is new and shiny doesn't mean it's an inherent good.

@@copypasta1585 Wonder if that's true or if people are just already enough comfortably numb with tiktok and KZfaq. Maybe both.

Heres the hint: its because "new" tech is becoming more and more obviously exploitative

The entire video is about how none of this is new though, so I’m not sure I get what you mean. The reason no one cares about this is BECAUSE it’s not actually new.

except you missed the whole point of the video. they are not doing anything new, they are just changing their own image.

He looks like those robots with fake plastic skin... Like that 'Sophia' one from years back.

at if robots could swet

I agree, GabeCube

I agree, Josh Watson

Thank you Mr. Gabe Cube

@@fella_named_smokey i agree, The Melon Dude

I agree, the loop

I don't think he does

There's a pretty big chance that you're right.

I think he does, but just wants to make sure people will tie the name Meta into exactly that from this moment on to make absolutely sure no one ever remembers that it was not Facebook creating the idea...

Because he acts so sincere.

this is very integral to a lot of Sillicon Valley guys, actually. Uber or some other idiots were like "WE'RE GOING TO REVOLUTIONIZE THE WORLD. Imagine UBER, but its CHEAPER.HOW? They have set stops and you can get on or off at those stops." motherfucker, those are BUSES. they thought they invented BUSES 😭😭😭

Be more concise

@@dac518 true lol

@@dac518 It’s like if an early web company called themselves “Inter” and it made discussing “Internet” horribly awkward and branded

@@dac518 no

@@dac518 Be more patient

oh my god totally!

Maybe banking on pandemic getting worse. That or the conspiracy theorists are right and they actually control all of the vaccines, and shut them all off to promote their terrible VR platform

Meta is fucking stupid, but if anything the pandemic supports the case for meta. The ability to more closely simulate the social experience of hanging out with your friends, or working in an office, or whatever it happens to be without having to be socially distant would be a massive benefit.

I personally haven’t tried VR, but I have been told it does a decent job of fulfilling the social need to interact with someone who is embodied in space, so I think they are hoping people will latch onto it as a substitute for physical social interaction because everyone is pretty alienated by the inadequacy of video calls which people have been forced to use the last few years. Personally I hope it flops so that there are fewer excuses for people to prolong the ‘new normal’ indefinitely.

@@NinjaPickle what a lame conspiracy I miss the illuminate days

Not the US government setting up enlistment stands in game (literally)

It's literally just Second Life

Metaverse is a term that comes from novels and the main antagonist in almost every story the antagonist is a Megacorporation trying to gain a monopoly thats why "Facebook's Metaverse" is such a dystopian concept

It sounds like when a nerd in a disney movie tries hacking the mainframe by accessing the metaverse. A bunch of stupid words that mean nothing lol

The word metaverse is widely believed to have first appeared in the book Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson in 1992! So it definitely did start out to mean a cyber dystopia and basically still means the same thing

It is pretty obvious that it is just a smash up of 'Meta', the company name and 'universe'.

I am so sorry to hear that

Give me a handsaw and a high school robotics club, and I think I can work something out

Usually in those universes the people with cool robot arms are usually in crippling debt to the evil powerful cyborg company

@@homemadefilms5718 fr? I thought they were just edgy

We literally have robot arms tho… where are my obident robo maids

Respectfully, Who?

Not reading allat

@@rajput36000 good for you. Glad you could at least spell correctly

tbf, when it comes to getting money from a customer, they do everything they can to make that experience fast and easy. There's no way you would need to do anything but use your AI-based visual camera to ID a product (or scan a QR code), and then hit the buy button and the item gets to your door in 2-5 days. It's when you go off the norm and try to find something obscure and not part of your usual algorithm while using preferred third party channels is what you are referencing. Point of sale systems are deliberately nightmarish to work with in that context. The convenience you are referencing doesn't work like that and never will. Because the experience I described isn't about some future system, you can literally do that, right now, at any store. That's a system light years more advanced than the system you have described. The future would be using AR/XR devices that will scan an item you are looking at using eye-tracking, then depending on your heart rate, the item gets added to a wishlist or instantly bought. Better yet, for extra dystopian-vibes, you can only buy an item with specific social credit scores. Not enough social credit, and you won't be able to buy from a brand that you gave a low rating or you publicly bad-mouthed them on social media. China has a similar system right now but only for government and public use. Seeing a similar system get applied to retail would be a total nightmare That's a scary future to live in. Luckily, it's not entirely inevitable for all of us.

Naw, his species is a very short lived species, like dogs, which is why Zuck lacks the wisdom to do anything right.

@@gregoryl.levitre9759 he’s actually the fourth Zuckerberg, the last three died 💔

@@gregoryl.levitre9759 Dogs show more intelligence.

@@RaysNewestLow Every time he dies, his consciousness is uploaded into a new clone.

@@antonioaguirre5464 A copy of it. And you know what happens with a copy of a copy.

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Well said, young Zedi

As depressing as this sounds, happiness in social environments are something you need to actively seek to cultivate. Unfortunately our society is too selfish to want to foster mutually beneficial and healthy relationships. The type of change you're seeking is going to take a nationwide shift in consciousness which is highly unlikely.

@@Grace-jb7me But we can make a start

Wow. This is raw. And as someone who didn't grow up with the internet, it's really good to hear that the generation behind me wants the real world.

I mean I personally am otherwise able to navigate concerts (even metal shows) despite my autism but indeed yes this is an otherwise excellent idea

That's nonsense. Cause a virtual (with avatars, not filmed in 3D-VR!) concert doesn't make the experience better than the music played at your home entertainment. And a concert filmed in 3D-VR and seen with VR will also scare a person who is scared from huge crowds. And why do you want to lock disabled people in their flat? Didn't we just try nowadays to include disabled people into our real live?

You could get that in VR, but actually good, with a 360º camera on an official live stream. No facebook scam shite involved

Because he's an AI-robot and he wants ppl to be more relatable to him and him to be more relatable to ppl.

whos target audience like facebook moms and dads arent gonna trust it, young people already hate facebook(which is why i thought they bought instagram), and then on top of that make mark the main speaker someone who has already lost the the trust of the like everyone, like this was his chance to distance himself, how does he not know he a walking pr disaster

Two cartoon character profile pictures with their arms crossed. Coincidence, I think not!

But how else will they sell ads and microtransactions at all points in time?

Old people won’t understand it, middle-aged people won’t trust it, i’m willing to bet that some younger people will fall prey to it but most of them realize how trashy it is.

@@lylelylecrocodile2538 Nice catch, it's a sign from the heavens, we are truly doomed

Yeah I saw that ad and thought it was a fake joke video someone made as a meme.....and then I found out it was real

It's not that they're doing it intentionally, it's just that the kind of people who work in marketing are fundamentally the kind of people who don't understand the internet or young people in general.

💀

The message I got from the ad is that meta views its prospective users as goofy, broken garbage robots who have (or will have) no lives. Its strongly implied that as is, we users have outlived our usefulness and will be forced to use meta in the future to eke out anything resembling a livelihood

@@benny_lemon5123 damn that’s so true

I WAS LOOKING FOR THIS COMMENT LMAO FUNNY AF

I’m only still using Facebook and Instagram (also Twitter) because I am involved in a shit ton of activism. I want to see power hungry (wannabe) dictators like Donald Trump, Boris Johnson, Scott Morrison, Vladimir Putin, Kim Jong Un and that Xi cunt who took over China all brought down and the people woken up that they are not the people to support!

This is some Ready Player One shit

For me personally, I can only hope this will fail the same way I saw 3D television in all it's forms fail not even a couple of years later after seeing it being predicted to be the next best thing on the IBC in 2010. Yes, it's incredibly cool to look at my models in Blender (which is why I mainly bought a second hand set of glasses) and it can help tremendously well to look at something in a model and have my brain go "Woooow that's completely out of proportion!" whereas in 2D I did not have that feeling at all, but I get motionsick incredibly easy, unfortunately.

It's like he saw all those dystopian movies and said to himself, I want to make my own matrix, I want to be the machines! He needs to take his billions, be thankful he'll never see prison, and take a nap instead of trying to sell water during a monsoon and trying to own rain.

That's well put.

I can't hear Metaverse without thinking of P5.

You have to remember that even as popular as P5 is, it's still fairly fringe in culture at large.

@@brandonfaddis7443 A fair point, but you'd think Zuck could have taken five seconds to google the word to see if it had been used somewhere else before.

@@MHurley21 fair

First time I heard the name "Horizon Worlds" I was expecting new dlc or some sequel to Horizon: Zero Dawn and got excited. This tall-headed sculpy monster ruined that dream. The best and kindest words I have for that bastard lizard in a gumby costume is that he is a party pooper.

Trained to perfection. Every movement he makes was coached for probably hundreds of hours.

@@GeddyRC i like to think he’s just a robot who was programmed to act like a human. just kidding of course, we all know he’s a lizard man in disguise…

I genuinely believe he's a psychopath. A normal, empathetic human doesn't act like this.

@@moldyreesescups Honestly, the glassy eyes and shinny skin read as some sort of Lovecraftian amphibian creature. We're beyond lizard man at this point.

@@TimothyCHenderson you’re exactly right. i think he just keeps evolving into more and more terrifying reptilian creatures.

Please I hope it horribly fails so we can keep an ounce of happiness with normal life

It's not that bad. Don't exaggerate too much. You don't need to be addicted in Internet to choose just play a game with friends using VR or talk with a stranger in a virtual city, or even study in a social virtual group, it's fun and it won't be bad especially if you know how to use it properly and not get addicted. It will helps a lot more than you think, it's just about self control. Of course you still should have social life, don't expect a world where everyone is connected, addicted in VR. People have brain (even smaller ones). They have to work, to meet friends, to date someone, to live real life, rhey simply can't live their entire lifes in a world which doesn't exist (I mean youngers, like underages could, because they still doesn't have a much complex life). VR will be just one more amusement to people who wants to have a more immersive experience on things, and there's any problem on it, it's actually a good thing. If someone is addicted to it, that's their problem, it doesn't bother to anyone who build that VR goggle, or to the concept itself.

@@phantomwarrior8686 That is quite a reply to my brief comment. You can have fun with VR stuff but that's different than an all-consuming metaverse in which virtual reality becomes a replacement for reality.

@@phantomwarrior8686 Yeah, I can hardly keep a vr headset on for more than an hour without getting sick. It’s not too hard to not get sucked into this.

being "terminally insane"

I got "he wants febreze" 🗿

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LMAOOOOO

I would laugh if THAT WASN'T ACTUALLY CONCERNING AND VERY POSSIBLE

We need a Magic Guitar right now lol

ALL HAIL PLANKTON

The only "afterparty" was I've ever been too was mostly just people getting high or taking forever in the process of organizing who's riding home with who, and that involved me guarding the door to the bathroom while a guy I met that same day lost his virginity inside. And I also helped solve the mystery of the night's poop bandit and almost wound up frotting a stranger within a span of like 5 minutes. Not sure what a normal afterparty is like but my personal experience leaves me seriously lacking in any faith a VR experience could replicate it. Which is kinda the whole point. VR stuff like this will never be able to replicate what it's trying to replace. The chaos of humanity cannot be properly expressed when it's so limited. I dont hate VR as concept, it's very cool and I'd love to try it, but trying to use it to monopolize human interaction is a nightmare world

this dystopia is nothing like cyberpunk 2077 ffs >:(

OK I PULL UP

@@Ezekiel_Allium If I can't smoke hash in a park with the band at 3 am in Meta, I'm not joining.

@@Andrew-np4nw don’t type too loudly, Zuckerberg might hear you and start selling meta-drugs

IKR. Super sleazy evasion of the real issues.

It's crazy how vrchat also (kinda) supports full body tracking, while horizon worlds, the "new and exiting experience™" is literally incapable of that because of the character designs

Hey! I'll have you know that at least Miis and Xbox live avatars have more personality than those soulless avatars

@@PoshWosher and those "new" weird people in the Nintendo switch sports game that's coming out later

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@JAZINITY lol sorry, but yeah that's exactly what I meant

It's almost like that $100 billion was not actually spent on this metaverse product and instead was laundered for paying for other things............ Especially when we see college kids with $0 make a better virtual social platform over a weekend in unity or unreal than meta could ever make. Fun fact, the new Quest Pro is 100% from Microsoft, it's MS software and hardware, literally the Hololense3, but with a meta sticker on it. w/e Meta is doing with hundreds of billions of dollars, they are not making software or hardware.

@evolicious This is a really interesting take. Thanks for sharing!

Not IMVU

They're figuring out how to put all of the personalized ads for people on every billboard in game@@evolicious

LMFAO THATS HILARIOUS

Same

Truuuuuuuuuuu lmao his face and mannerisms do reside deep in the uncanny valley

LOOOL😭😭😭😭😭😭💀💀

They removed his emotions chip.

Lmao that's actually a great point. What should we pitch after people have been locked in their houses for almost two years and desperately want to go outside? I know! Staying locked in their house and never needing to go outside.

Yeah like as cool matrix is potentially, inm the series and movies, thats very dystopian. Its becaus the world is shit, and its about people waking up from it. And while SAO is not very good at commentary, its a death game, and a terrible game at thatthats only somewhat intereting, because its a death game. So the terrible game design from sao, and the dystopia and being traped from matrix yaaaay.

the fact that so many people realize how dystopian it is gives me hope though,I haven't seen anyone but Meta themselves mention the Metaverse in a positive light.

It's a cliché, but we're basically living in the most advanced metaverse ever called "Reality". Anything they create digitally will always feel like a cheap knock-off.. Like a prison.

I think a lot of people agree with this sentiment considering that we've had many dystopian works like novels and movies that have probably warned us all beforehand, there's also the fact that we've become more cynical and aware of how companies have no interest of the consumers and employee's wellbeing. It's still sort of sad that some people will fall into it and think it's amazing but in due time they will realise that it sucks

It’ll be completely safe and “brand friendly” 🤮

yes

Exactly lol they’d put you into the ad 😂

@@Cajek2 Funny enough, that's not even remotely possible due to the virtual space being easily manipulated with hacks and exploits. The first few launches of metaverse were all cancelled becasue kids found out ways to harass users, lmfao. They did private launches and then surprise, it was quiet, empty, and boring.

I disagree. Zuccerverse is what you get when an evil corporation tries to build something that looks family and business friendly.

It’s a scam to pacify poor people.

So basically he’s creating the Matrix

No no don't say that. He'll short circuit

Why does the Horizon Worlds as shown look like Paw Patrol for adults?

Do what rich do, not what they sell

There's something about his eyes. They look dead.

He started the afterlife before he logged off. " He's dead Jim. " " But why is he still here Bones?" "Virtual bat soup. It'$ the only logical choice."

I don’t genuinely believe in the Mark being a lizard thing, but I can see how people believe it. Mark is totally an android.

How can someone increasingly become less and less charismatic, the man is losing skill points

@@phosphenevision he sucks Souls but he's a straw

I find it so terrifying that a lot of peoples lives and business things revolve around facebook- even to the point that some phones are sold with facebook already installed!

this is a great point. he can't convince anyone remotely familiar with the internet because the product doesn't make any logical sense, but he has a chance with those who are less in touch, particularly older generations. they might not have the resources to understand that what this is is shitty exploitation. it's super fucked up

BASED OT

I wouldn't be surprised, it seems like some huge advertisement for investors. He's likely just trying to get back on his podium.

It feaks me out, it’s kinda like a parasite. Everything’s effected with it

I thought the exact same thing!

By the way when you first get on ‘Metaverse’ it kindly reminds you “like a neighbor would” that they record your audio for YOUR safety. Every breath, every tone, every sentence you say being sold off to another company of dubious origin. Thanks for keeping us safe Mark!

Given the success of Tik Tok I doubt anyone really actually does care about privacy

Point stated excellently, thank you.

Zucker nerd pitching their awesome privacy policy is like a car salesman pitching how honest and transparent their car dealership is.

lmfao

"We have created the Torment Nexus, as seen in the hit sci-fi novel, Don't Create the Torment Nexus"

I was on board with everything you said until you said "worser"... now I can't see anything but that word.

Totally agree. The most fun of vrc is the user-generated content and freedom, I doubt metaverse is going to have anything close to the same freedoms. Not only with the kind of content people can make, but also communication. I've had some fucking BONKERS conversations w ppl on vrc that I can't imagine happening in such a corporate plane like meta.

It sounds like essentializing but it's still so damn accurate. There's literally nothing that distinguishes this from VRChat other than the lack of features and customization.

i wish i was in their meetings with share holders so i could shit on all of marks 'new' ideas that is old technology, 5 years old, free and hes pitching as his own new idea. shareholders would realise that hes full of shit.

@@Cobalt985 Don't forget the fact that you have to buy goods and items in Metaverse. Instead of, you know, just uploading your own world like you can in VR Chat.

That was exactly what it reminded me of, but wayy less customizable with the avatars, worlds, ect.

Mark must've watched the Matrix and thought the robots were onto something

The term metaverse Came from a book About a dystopian future we are VR viruses give you brain damage and life sucks

@@wilymuppet8941 well ofc, the robots were clearly the good guys, keeping everyone safe from terrorists like Neo

@@carriewilson1006 assdghkhvfcbcvb that's so fucking funny oh my god

@@wilymuppet8941 to be fair, considering that the world became nuclear wasteland, it's very nice of robots to actually keep humankind alive. And some humans (or maybe just another robots in disguise) know how to repair human bodies in order to adapt to real world.

Which is hilarious because the metaverse in Snow Crash was, by modern standards, also unimpressive and shitty.

@Jennifer 23 ora nmpl You spelled Madonna wrong.

VRchat has better things than this

To be fair, being somewhat blatant about their dystopic intentions seems to have worked for other companies, this is just coming out about it.

Yes. I've never done VR chat, but I've been online for some decades, and I don't really know how to put this into words so I'm going to butcher it just to get it off my chest. By all measures, I'm supposed to be the one who doesn't know how to socialize, is quiet, is awkward, is socially stupid, and yet I've come to repeatedly realize I'm NOT that.... because I actually grew up. I'm willing to accept failure and fear and look at other people like they are human beings in existence too.

That’s strange, I always thought VR chat served the same purpose.

THANK YOU Your the only person I’ve seen so far to mention this We’ve always supposed to have been the socially awkward but you know we’ve grown up when we realize that the following sounds depressing Spending all your time online, and it sounds even worse with the new meta verse letting you basically do everything but eat and drink on it

It's both good and bad to know that my fears about the metaverse weren't unfounded. It's good that I'm not alone in seeing how dystopian the world is becoming as technological advancement depends on sanguivorous billionaires who just want to take advantage of vulnerable people and capitalise off of mental illness and even su*cide among young people. But it's bad (or rather, explicitly evil) that vulnerable people are taken advantage of in the first place.

Shit sounds like i should give it a try

they should be investing in games and instead and stuff we CANT do irl like i can go bowling with friends irl but i obviously cant go flying dragons with them

@@Katie-xd1nt that's kinda like saying "we shouldn't have vr shooters and war games cause I could just get a gun irl

@@cookinginatraylor4570 That's nonsense. You can't just go to a quick harmless war with your friends. You *can* go bowling with them.

@@driveasandwich6734 I was making a point

@@cookinginatraylor4570 Badly

i agree and that's really sad. just a watered down version of real life that big companies and capitalism have made unattainable for us

"Huh? What housing crisis? Look, you have your own cool space in our virtual world! And you can customize it all you want! Isn't that epic?"

Very dystopian

@@syrazie How would not having capitalism help you experience more things, a two hundred years you were stuck where you were born

Tell the colonizers they were supposed to stay where they were born

That way they can publicly use their fursonas by claiming its about investing stock

the difference is microtransactions only make profits for game companies, while your average Joe can make money from NFTs--key word can. you're more likely to be scammed by NFTs than actually make money but you can also make a lot of money

@@croissant2882 Anyone who gets their fursona from an NFT is going to get bullied by furries, and deserve it~

@@MaskedMammal obviously, the nfts are so hideous Like seriously, if you're going to put some horrendous monkey on your profile pic you might as well embrace your inner furry and pay much smaller price for an actual art from a real artist

@@carstarsarstenstesenn so its a shittier steam marketplace

Fr, if I wanted to put on a VR headset to interact with other people in VR headsets, I would just get on VR chat. At least that game won't sell all my personal info lol.

perhaps Zuck expects to own & control all the clothing stores, own all the games, all the shops etc etc in the metaverse. Not terrifying at all!

Governments and corporations are very well married. They can have a fight in the weekend barbecue, but won't get divorced. It's just a drama show.

So 5 billion over 2.9 billion monthly users. Let's say that it only concerns US citizens, so about 100 million. That's what? 50 bucks? Is it really worth the administrative labor to send every citizen 50 bucks? Maybe they could do it as a tax write-off if you have a sufficiently old facebook account.

@@ashleydavis3318 it's more than possible to payout that money. Many class actions in the past have sent out checks for literal pennies on the dollar and not all the 100mil users will sign up to claim the money, increasing the individual payout for everyone else.

A bunch of states sued Facebooks for the data breach and citizens did get money from it.

@@hermitgreenn Yup, my friend in Illinois got some from it.

A small price to pay for salvation

I would have done the same. Good on you!

Well done, the reasonable choice.

i bought my quest 2 just before the company renamed it to the "Meta quest 2." I wanted to avoid facebook, but at least I avoided Meta.

@@alexmungan9950 zuckerberg would have seen my ip address, locate my house, and then sneak in in the middle of the night and steal my soul

Seriously even a goddamn genshin impact has a feature where your character's legs realistically interact with terrain. A DAMN MOBILE ZELDA BUILT AROUND A SCAMMY GACHA SYSTEM GOT THIS RIGHT! (Though thinking about it Facebook is still shittier than this)

Bruh. Unity and Unreal both have IK in-engine support, you just implement it with some drop downs and it's done. Just shows that maybe the $100bil zuck lost was spent on......other things........ Probably protection from the maxwell black book list. Or paying china, russia and the altright/rightwing to influence the US politically towards fascism. Maybe might be something to do with saving face of metric tons of failure and defeat at the hands of millions of users that don't like facebook anymore. Most likely, all of the above.

@@landchannel7688 to top it off, Facebook's new VR device comes straight from Microsoft. Like literally software, hardware, all off the line directly from MS, just like the Lenovo WMR (Rift S). Just put a meta sticker on it and sell it as their own XR device when it's literally just Hololense3 (HL2 was sold to the military and was instantly hated when used in field testing, lmfao).

Billions of dollars and Nintendo Mii's still look better.

It literally took me a week to program a functioning full body VR avatar setup in Unity, and while their tools might be more difficult to use, they have infinitely more budget and time

True. And the best way of creating a (real) metaverse is letting the people create and develop it. The metaverse being in charge of a company (and specially Facebook) is the pinnacle of a dystopian future.

They are trying to sell a VR Chat that isn't free and looks uglyier. Sure, a lot of people in VR Chat are fucking nutcases, but a free community will always be more safer and interesting then big business apps

And I cant be a big boobed anime lady in metaverse now can I? Or a fuckin pickle. I want to be a pickle. You know what can do that? Vrchat.

this is literally just gentrified VRChat. I wanna be Waluigi goddammit

I agree, my fear is that this is going to be sold to businesses as a new “zoom” type of tool to connect people and be able to deliver services remotely but in a more “immersive” and “controlled” environment, and that it makes businesses so dependent on it that everyone will need services/technology that integrate with “the Metaverse” to be successful. Then everyone will be dependent on it in a similar way as to how we are dependent on smartphones now.

Mr. potatohead energy

He ain't trying to

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I saw people talking abt selling real estate in the Meta verse and how there'll be fancy clubs and restaurants for NFT bros. Now that's a dystopian future.

@@SaintShion what if we.... Did the same things we already do... But worse!

I'm really curious how they came up with this idea? Was it brainstorming by committee or was it just Zucc, probably one of the most out-of-touch people, making all of the decisions.

Also digital scarcity.

facebook changed its api backend coding several times since they started. A lot of in game apps got wiped when the creators couldn't afford to keep patching them. I doubt anyone wants to play candy crush on the metaverse lol At least Microsoft owns a lot of ip to games. And gives game creators a few years notice how to code for the next platform update. CEO may be a boomer but wants quality before releases.

Exactly. The only thing associating the NFT with the hoodie is the honor system on Facebook's part.

Even worse, aslong as Facebook says that somewhere in super tiny text, it's totally legal

Just like digital games