Buffalo, NY is the Midwest.

and its got water and doesnt border the ocean which will probably become increasingly relevant in future decades...

Other than hideous corruption sure

@@DefenestrateYourself And sky high taxes

Dude, it costs me an arm and a leg just to drive through Chicago!

@@MCHammer79I mean… gas wise yeah Driving wise there are some gems, like my dad, who does moves and save 5+ minutes every drive than what google says it will be, by taking roads parallel to the interstate

Indianapolis is the only city to have its suburbs be more bikeable than its city.

Indianapolis has a more fun downtown than any other Midwestern city besides Chicago and maybe Detroit. Their downtown is like a clean version of Poydras and Canal Street in New Orleans

Indianapolis streets resemble a war zone with the worst pavement conditions imaginable

Yeah as someone who lives in Indiana I’m allowed to say Indianapolis is boring as hell there is literally more to do and more walkability in my little college town

@@christophergrimes6710 Indy has been fun to me, I have never been bored. Maybe its just you.

In fact, isn't "Milwaukee" an Indian name?

Well, we gotta see if WisDot is going to approve it. I'm going to be partying like crazy if they approve 794 removal🎉🎉🎉

@@flyingbanana4179We’re getting rid of 794 and the stadium freeway!

@@cadethomas5686 Is it confirmed?

Detroit has plans to remove one section as well

Yoooo it’s StrongTowns!!!!

Strong Towns needs to plan new projects

We truly just have to remind you of the Bears' very existence 😂

Still checking the ego after almost half a decade seems a bit odd 😂

Imagine how well the cities would improve with HSR connecting them, too. The commerce and infrastructure improvements alone would bolster the region so well.

I would rather walk on broken glass than ride transit with smelly, disgusting people

The Midwest is not exciting or glamorous, but has plenty of fresh water, few earthquakes, no hurricanes and no massive wildfires. So many people moved to those kind of zones in recent years.

Im planning to make it there. Excited for all the future projects going on in Columbus, id love to be able to take a train to Cleveland, Chicago, Milwaukee whenever i want. too many underrated cities in this region

@@kh884488Unfortunately, all the fastest growing places in the U.S. are still the places that are going to be the most deviated by climate change, even though the Midwest is going to be much better off than the rest of the county.

Exactly. Plus the largest steel producer is building a mix use development for a new tower downtown.

@@williamerazo3921It’s too bad Cleveland Cliffs couldn’t close on the U.S. Steel deal because that definitely would’ve expedited their new HQ development.

​@@noahbonner5853 the US steel deal isn't solidified yet and Cleveland cliffs is giving it another go

Heyyyy

You forgot the “negative”

😂😂😂

They banned LRT specifically in Central Indiana, just to give Indianapolis the middle finger. Also, the state government has repeatedly tried to kill the trio of BRT lines that have already been approved by voters. They have a new attempt to try to ban bus only lanes.

@@eriklakeland3857 Damn, Indianapolis has it ROUGH, ong. Man, Indiana really hates anything that isn't the car

@@eriklakeland3857 Don't forget the recent effort to ban right on red in the Mile Square. The city-county council wanted it, and the state leg tried to kill it (and maybe were successful? I'm not the most up to date)

⁠@@PetoriaZeroYup, lol Indy’s transit is garbage. I only live here because it’s one of the best cities in the nation to make money and live. However my suburb (Carmel) is building lots of biking infrastructure around town, and building shit ton of roundabouts. Carmel is like a european wannabe suburb with american style suburban neighborhoods

Indianapolis is the only city to have its suburbs (carmel, fishers zionsville brownsburg etc) be more bikeable than its own city 😂

You’re right!

Yes, how on EARTH is Buffalo on the Northeast list and Pittsburgh isn’t?

Buffalo is definitely Midwest. It's literally on the Great Lake of Erie.

The distinction between the Northeast and the historic Great Lakes and river cities - Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Detroit, Cincinnati, Chicago, Milwaukee, Minneapolis, and St. louis - has only blurred over time. These cities are certainly less urbanized than the Acela Corridor, but their centuries-long economic connections to the Northeast and their shared reputation as immigration havens have given them many shared characteristics (as opposed to the 'new' big cities like Columbus, or the booming new cities of the South).

@@VidaBlue317 Well... Chicago is pretty well urbanized

Exactly. Sherwin Williams is building another tower

It’s exciting! Unfortunately the east side of Downtown isn’t much better

I just noticed the comment you hid about Imo's Pizza (and Skyline Chill but I have never heard of that) but HOW DARE YOU slander the Imos name. It is an institution here in StL. :/ lol @@climateandtransit

Sherwin Williams HQ!

@@climateandtransit I've lived all over the east side; Euclid, Wickliffe, Willowick, Mentor-on-the-lake, Mantor. I love it there. But that's the suburbs for ya :P The lake is such an asset. Its like living on the ocean 6-8 months out of the year for bottom barrel prices.

Check out CityNerd's latest video from this week: Where People Spend the Least On Housing + Transportation, which takes into account median income. You won't believe the #1 city, but the numbers don't lie. His data is sound. I live in said city, and it blew my mind.

@@jazzcatjohnclickbait comment hahahaha

@@jazzcatjohnok I just watched it, and growing up there, while it is surprising to hear it does makes sense now that I think about it. I think the livability standard is very extreme on the poorer and richer ends of the spectrum (hard to survive but once you make it, you’re golden)

@@4ev3rmore I agree.

The problem is when he's ranking Minneapolis he is also Ranking St.Paul, you can't really seperate the two.

lol I’m from St. Paul. Were overlooked by Minneapolis.

Madison is tiny though compared to these. You’d need Omaha on the list before that.

​@WalzRocks-wq5fi I was just gonna say, we need a Twin Cities ranking now, as well as the medium sized cities in the Midwest.

I’d argue st paul exceeds Minneapolis, specially in walkability in it’s downtown.

Mansard Roofs > everything else. 😊

a lot of the downtown has this really cool gothic look to it

@@legochickenguy4938 AGREED and as a goth I love it

You can always count on detroit for taste, style & culture

Detroit has lots of potential to be a world class city with time and effort we’ll get there!

@@PookieLoc It has potential to be a world class city because it was a world class city

FYI Detroit Cheese coneys are a weird cousin also developed by Greek Macedonians.

Chicago vs the Midwest is like NYC vs the rest of the country. It really just feels like a completely different league and hard to compare.

I think Minneapolis/St Paul is kind of the perfect sized metro area. Chicago is really great in so many ways, but on a day to day life scale, it feels like too much. The Twin Cities has most of the amenities that Chicago has, but on a more approachable scale. I grew up in the Cities, moved to Boston and Denver and am back in the Cities again. It just feels right. The winter months are really what keeps others from wanting to move here.. but I actually really like the change, the snow, the frozen lakes and water falls... It's a fun feature. And just when you're over it, the seasons change again.

​@@minnybiker4505I agree, its also cheaper than other metros with a similar quality of life

Then create and place Chicago in S+ and leave Minneapolis where it is

@@ztl2505Chicago is overrated in my opinion. Only thing good about Chicago is the downtown area.

Hey fellow Orlando native. I'm glad to be out of Florida too. Probably looking to relocate to Minneapolis myself for that amazing bike infrastructure, only need to find a job there.

​@@GirtonOramsayAmazing bike infrastructure LMAO. Plus it is freaking cold there.

@@povertyspec9651 I was half joking when I said that but it's ranked as the top city for biking, usually alongside Portland. If the cold keeps it very cheap for rents, I'd gladly deal with the weather.

@@povertyspec9651 It can be very cold. In The Winter. There are 9 other months.

@@GirtonOramsay It does get cold in the winter but people are outside 365 days a year. The bike paths are plowed but folks there just go from regular bikes to fat tire bikes and keep going. Same with the water. When the weather is warm, people are on all the lakes but when it freezes, they're still out there cross country skiing, ice yachting/boating, and ice fishing. People in Minneapolis are outside a lot no matter the weather and are some of the fittest and healthiest cities in America.

They've also made school lunch free for all kids. They're doing so well.

Funnily enough, Racine received $5 million to advance KRM.

@cadethomas5686 Yes, but that's just the city of Racine. We need a whole lot of more money for the KRM, and right now, there is no funding coming in because Scott Walker banned regional transit agencies over 10 years ago.

I travel almost all these cities for work monthly and cleveland is by far my favorite city in the midwest columbus and cincinnati may not even be in the top 5

Definitely a topic for radio free urbanism!

That’s backwards ass Indiana for you

Not to mention St. Paul!

State legislature sure did.

I’m glad to hear that! I’ll be moving from Austin Tx. To Minneapolis. Any tips on the city and what there is to do?😊

Where BLM burns entire neighborhoods..no thanks

Kansas City is a cooler city then Indy

That’s our bizarre GOP controlled state legislature.

They actually have a subway they started building and stopped !

Cleveland is in the same boat. Lots of bonehead decisions…way too much car.

@@LeeHawkinsPhotoPlus the added bonus of a much worse job market (though tbf, Cleveland has a not so bad transit system).

@@neilworms2 I wouldn’t say that it’s all that bad now. I can’t really compare it to Cincy directly though…I just don’t keep up with what’s going on enough. We have had it worse than the rest of the state previously, but there’s a ton going on right now that makes me wonder if we’ll sink as far or as fast in the future…it’s hard to tell. I know Cleveland has been a welcome improvement economically for a lot of people moving here the past few years, but who knows if that’ll hold true either because the entire national economy has been turned upside down the past few years too. I don’t think we’re as well off as Columbus, sure, because we don’t have the state government or that giant university, but things have been going a good way for a while. It’s just hard to say what will actually happen, what is true, and what is all made up. The suffering in Rust Belt metros is simultaneously exaggerated and understated over the course of my lifetime.

Compared to other cities, Cincinnati has an embarrassment of riches when it comes to older buildings. OTR, Northside, Clifton, Covington, Newport, etc…entire neighborhoods remain intact.

It's a shame. We really need one Yes it's expensive but has huge benefits

What's worse is that the state highway department routed freeways over unfinished surface extensions of the subway.

Cincinnati is the capital city of things that they almost done.

Cinci also recently approved plans for its first BRT lines. Now if only there was more push to complete the abandonded subway...

Cincy is actually far more cycle friendly than I think the score reflected as well!

Chicago and New York city are the ONLY American cities with a full on transit system that runs across the entire city, no other US city even comes close.

@@beasley1232 I would slid the Bay Area in there.

Chicago is milwaukees biggest neighborhood

St Paul is more of a Omaha/Grands Rapids sized city so probably not

Socrates, St Paul is larger than Cincinnati, St Louis and Pittsburgh all on this list. Grand Rapids is small by comparison. FYI Omaha actually has more people than Minneapolis so you really should check your facts. Not sure why Pittsburgh is on the list. It's not the midwest.

I was just in Milwaukee and couldn't don't think that it's very easy to get around with transit.

I am surprised you missed (maybe not) his pun of "Milwaukee - Chicago's largest suburb"... 😮 As expressways help create white-flight and Realtor "blockbusting" scare/paranoia of - if a minority family moved in a block or 2 away that your home will lose value... sell now and get 80% vs lower if last out or go and we can rent it for you. With white-flight was ongoing taking with them the retail too plus our de-industrialisation of the northern cities taking those middle-class wage jobs with benefits when ALL had jobs paying more than minimum wage and needing no gov assistance dried up as mills were just totally abandoned to rot as some moved to suburbs and then to Asia en masse. The Federal Housing Administration FHA, which was established already way back in the depression New Deal by FDR in 1934, furthered the segregation efforts by refusing to insure mortgages in and near African-American neighborhoods - a policy known as "redlining." Banks had the maps of high-risk redlined areas and no loans to minorities to buy there. Some got other means of high-risk loans where missing a payment one was quick to lost a home. At the same time, the FHA was subsidizing builders who were mass-producing entire subdivisions for whites - with the requirement that none of the homes be sold to African-Americans.and fact Gov GI loans did not go to minorities then.... especially for suburbs where they had white-only mandates legal for decades. Then came "reverse-redlining" - a term used to describe the targeting by banks and mortgage lenders of minority communities for exploitative loans, called subprime loans. They were typically loans designed to induce African-American and Latino homeowners to refinance their homes at a low-interest rate that then exploded into a very high rate once they’re locked into the mortgage into the 2000s. Others were duped too. POINT IS - it was not just Milwaukee and ALL these Midwest cities show that damage of hollowing out and civil rights riots late 60s when MLK and RFK were assassinated was fuel on the fire. WE DID it ALL along with GOV to OURSELVES GROWING our UNDER-CLASS that now is generations in.

lived in MKE 2017-2019 and didn't have a car for part of that time. I found the bus network to be pretty extensive and timings were good (better than PGH where I lived previously). Maybe it's changed since then, but when I was there it was solid. I agree that it's also pretty good for biking (the bike path system is really useful). They opened the Hop streetcare when I was moving away, so I didn't get to use it, glad to hear they're expanding it.

The types of trains used.

@@ewilliams1594 The trains are light as well. The national railway system is "heavy". This awkward term came into use via those who do not know the difference between direct suspension trolley wire and catenary, and refer to a "bus" as a "bus rapid transit vehicle"

The emerging rennaissance of St. Louis has become practically inevitable. We are fairly self aware of our problems, weve got an abundance of good bones, we're making small but meaningful infrastructure improvements, new developments are rapidly "closing the gaps" between the more stable neighborhoods -- and once those dots start to really connect (think cwe to midtown to downtown as an example), then the magic of the city will multiply in a blink!

Aside from the sprawl in the hills, Pittsburgh has retained much of the density of East Coast cities. However being far removed from NEC gives it the lifestyle and culture of more midwestern cities. Honestly I don't think you can say Pittsburgh is one of the other.

I took an Amtrak to Philly. Took for ever.

@@H3lue the sprawl really is terrible outside the core density, especially Robinson and Monroeville🤮

Pittsburgh defies a singular geographic category. It's an eclectic mix of East Coast, Midwest, Appalachia, and Great Lakes regions. Nonetheless a great city, especially near the urban core.

@@mcarstonYeah, it’s certainly its own thing.

Yeah, that part really confused me. It’s a really beautiful city with lots of nature, cool neighborhoods, and great walkability in most of the city.

Gary, Indiana is more like a suburb of Chicago, I mean it's literally connected to East Chicago via the Chicago skyway.

Indianapolis (or maybe more so Indiana) seems to hate trains I guess

I noticed this at fishers, when they converted a Rail line into a Bike trail

@@aimxdy8680 the Green Line proposal for that corridor would’ve been so much better. Ever since it fell through, billions have been spent on highway improvements paralleling that alignment.

@@eriklakeland3857 Everytime Indianapolis tried to propose a project, a Highway is always put first. We seen this just like a decade ago when they converted US 31 into basically an interstate and now the same is happening with I-69 south, and a decade and a half ago when they expanded I-465 from 3 lanes each side into 4-5 lanes each side from 2005-2010.

It the state government ​@@Not_Sal

St. Louis is Trash🤢🤮

I visited Philly (from the UK) and it has pretty much that, subway running north/south and east west, crossing at city hall. It helped greatly getting around.

Columbus can't even get its bus system together let alone think about rail transit

i think even just a high street line would be huge. from worthington to 104

not this year