This was a great video bro. Thanks!

Video makes sense but the reason why I hate Mikasa so much is because of her brutal killing spree of the Yeagerists and betrayal of Paradis. Also why I despise Connie, Armin, Jean, Hanji, and the like. It honestly disgusts me how they casually teamed up with Annie and Reiner to kill their own people.

Congrats on your first video! Throughly enjoyed. What video editor do you use?

@@Noneofyourbyisness adobe premiere pro

AYO😭

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Disgusting

Lmao yo! 💀

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If they get more time without any interruptions back then(I am talking about "what am I to you" moment), that convo could've gone in a different way..But sadly they were interrupted by that old man and their friends..

Those weren't the only two ways to answer. Those were just inquisitive guesses Eren made to follow up with his question. It didn't mean that he was making her choose between those two options. Think about it. When someone asks something about you and guesses a number of possibilities, what would you do if all of their guesses are wrong or unsatisfactory? Would you just choose one of their guesses, or would you clarify and correct them with the actual truth? I'm not sure if Mikasa was lying about her feelings or if she simply got too flustered to answer properly in the heat of the moment. I do agree with you though that Mikasa definitely loves Eren; that part is not really debatable. I still don't support the ship though. I think the Eremika relationship was mishandled in the final arc.

@@r.s.7929 I think people just trying to simplify the question and the answer. At that moment, Eren was at his peak of self-loathe. Eren was genuinely curious about Mikasa. Because he couldn't understand why she cares about him so much despite his huge flaws. Pretty sure at that time Eren got some sort of awareness about the Ackerbond theory, so to some extent he thought her devotion can't be 100% real/pure & she acts like this because of such an outside factor(Because later, he tried to clear up that by asking Zeke about it.) Also I think Eren wanted that family answer. That's why he put that option in the question. So imo, for Eren, that answer wasn't disappointing at all. On the other hand, some people really think the word ''family'' means only father, mother, brother & sister etc. That's not true. Meaning of the word, "family" is pretty much vague. It depends & you can use that word for everyone so dear to you. Also its obvious Eren caught her off guard here. But still that answer is not a lie. It's the honest truth and she never actually bro-zoned him. The entire point is they were interrupted by others. So they couldn't continue that convo. It's a missed opportunity. Also I don't think EM was mishandled in the last arc. That relationship was meant be like that. It helped a lot to the story in that way. The real problem is people putting their shipping goggles & trying to see it like a normal girl-boy love relationship. But actually the relationship between them is much more complicated and not fully grown. They are like friends, not only that. They are like bro and sis but not actually(and sometime they're like mom & son). They are like a copule but still not fully developed. Simply their relationship is half-assed from chap.1 to 139. There's nothing wong with that imo.

This is pretty insane to say but I think Historia is even more misunderstood than Eren

The last part isn’t true Eren did not threaten to brain wash her he said if Historia couldn’t handle the pain of knowing about the rumbling he’d erase her memory’s of it. He ASKED her if that’s what she wanted if it was too much to handle never once did he threaten. “How could I ever!?” “If it’s too much to bare I’ll erase your memories if you can wait till then.” This is what he said. Also during the uprising arc Historia expressed that Eren made her happy by calling her a normal girl and Isayama stated that Eren and Ymir have equal value to her and Historia pulled Eren from the abyss and that when Historia saw Eren cry she understood herself so it wasn’t solely Ymir who pushed her to become the person she is and I wish people gave Eren more credit when talking about her since it was so important for that arc as well but avoid it cause they don’t like the Eren x Historia ship which is fine but people go around spreading misinformation.

@@lolabee1825 still Erens connection to Historia is not different than to his connection to Jean or Armin.Also it is important to understand that in season 3 Historia was ready to kill Eren without any remorse, and then changed her mind because she remembered Ymir, and saved him because of her, and not because he was somewhat important her.After season 3, maybe there was some form of friendship between them, but Historias connection to Ymir was still her most defining one, for example in end credits of season 3 the main theme is Historias life, and she falls in the darkness when she can't be with Ymir, or Ymirs theme song sounds like it was sung by Historia, while Historias song sounds like it was sung by Ymir.Also in season 2 Mikasa asks Historia who will she choose Eren or Ymir, and Historia obviously choosed Ymir over Eren

@@anny_draws3023 I’m not saying otherwise however it wasn’t just Ymir that made her throw down the injection if you watch the scene again after Eren poured his heart out Historia replies saying that he made her happy and the reason she was ready to kill Eren was being Rod was manipulating her and telling her it was the only way to save humanity and she didn’t want to disappoint her father not because her lack of care towards Eren. Isayama even said that it was both Eren and Ymir who changed her source came from him and it’s shown in the manga. I disagree about the importance maybe Armin since him and Eren are close friends but their relationship is a bit stronger than Eren and Jeans. And still I really dislike when people say Eren manipulated and threaten Historia in that scene when that’s not what he said at all it’s so confusing when people do that.

@@anny_draws3023 When Historia had no one when Ymir left her without explanation during season 2 Historia felt utterly broken because the one person she put trust in was gone. So she stopped pretending to be nice and became her true self. Eren was the first person to reach out to her to tell her he understood and that he liked her for her and never liked her persona and that now she was normal something she didn’t feel. This is why Eren became important to her because just like Ymir there was someone who understood and liked her for her.

necrokasa

The thing is that people believe Mikasa has to be some very complex independent female chad like character to be a good protagonist.. I mean whats so wrong with protecting and loving the only person she has left in the world besides Armin and making it her biggest goal in life? Why does it scare people so much to see a woman devote her heart 100% for a man she loves. This is actually tue reason why I fell in love with Mikasa's character. Even though she is extremely loyal but at the same time she won't let the most important person in the universe to her cause so much damage and destruction. And people still give her disgusting names like "dogkasa" or "necrokasa" (like the idiot above this comment) I have just came to the realisation that Mikasa haters just have the most pathetic and baseless reasons to hate on her.. makes me think they actually envy her character and try shitting on her for the lamest reasons because to me Mikasa is actually one of the most free persons in AOT

@@waytoguidance Everything you said in your comment, I absolutely agree with. Including them disgusting cringey names people call Mikasa like “dogkasa”, “mankasa” and even “necrokasa” (like that idiot who first replied in my comment). I never found them funny at all. Glad I’m not the only one who completely understands the simple premise behind Mikasa’s character. Appreciate your comment by the way.

That is the very definition of toxicity. You don't love someone because they gave you another chance at life. You love them for their interests, the conversations they have with you, sharing of dreams etc. Mikasa has none of these with eren. Hannes and Levi knew more about eren as an individual than mikasa does. She sees him as an ideal, a representation of strength and survival. She doesn't love a person, she's dependent on him for life, for her own strength. That's not love. That's why when she thought he died at the beginning, she lost all empathy for the life of others, and her own. That's why when she starts thinking he may be a terrible person, she still can't bring herself to admit it. To do so would be to loose herself. Because her entire existence is to love just a FACET of a person, and not the whole. She only knows that he's strong and defensive of those he loves, so when that characteristic is questioned, she has nothing left to hold on to. She doesnt even know why he loves who he loves, she doesnt know why hes obsessed with freedom like armin does. She doesnt know him, so its ludicrous to call that love when they might as well be strangers. She disregards the safety of anyone that isnt Eren. and he doesn't even show a sliver of interest to her. His "confession" was so random and cringe. But the same can be said for armin and annie. The only well written romantic relationship in AOT is historia and Ymir, maybe eremin in the fannon. She as a main character has the least growth. Her development is shallow, subtle and sudden. Her slow detachment from eren when he left signified to me the beginnig of change in mikasa. Maybe we'd see her have dreams, care deeply for others or have some sort of introspection about the choices they have made and will have to make. But we get none of that. Her only contributions are to fight and wrongly assume what type of person eren is, again proving my point that her love for him may run deep, but is also deeply shallow. Her meeting with the grown up girl she had saved in season 1 could have been a great way to explore mikasas reflection on what she represents to others and the person she used to be and has become. We got none of that. She just got mad that her scarf was touched and left. It's frustrating to see so much potential wasted on a character whose existence is to blindly pine. I don't think isayama initially intended mikasa and erens relationship to be read romantically, but heteronormativity and the expectation of romance in the anime community probably made that more likely. Oh well. The manga is still great.

@@keke835 respectfully i doubt you tried to understand the point i was trying to make with my comment. never did i once said “mikasa and eren have a healthy amazing relationship” The point i tried to make was how Mikasa’s devotion to Eren makes complete sense in the sense of a girl who lost everything and this guy gives her a home, constantly saves her and supports her in her strength. i am someone who has a lot of criticism when it comes to the relationship of Eren and Mikasa, so i frankly wont argue with you whether you should like them romantically or not. Mikasa does love Eren, for who he is a person, what he represents what he does. because its truth, Eren risked his life many times during the story to save both her and Armin, gave her a home, that’s enough for a person to fall for someone. It is understanding of a girl who basically lost everyone and found love on someone like Eren. Her behavior, her sense protection towards him MAKES COMPLETELY SENSE. Hence why they showed her backstory. Also calling them strangers when they have known each other for most of their lives. Even Mikasa acknowledges how Eren is someone “who always leaves everyone behind” in the sense of him always chasing his goals, she literally has a conversation about it with Armin, which makes me think that she understands how Eren is as a person, however at times she tries to protect him because she is afraid ro loose him. Hence why in the confession scene when Hannes dies, Eren understands why she is that way towards him. You are not wrong when you say that at times she put people’s lives at risk for, something we do see change as she starts valuing and respecting her comrades more. We see an example of her saving the lives of Historia, Sasha, Armin. She puts the people she values before anyone else. Which then again the speech with Historia comes again “i don’t have the luxury of caring for many people” is it a negative aspect?? absolutely. You are not wrong in certain things but you are completely ignoring how Mikasa goes out of her way to save people’s lives many times that are not Eren. How she was terrified at the idea of Eren commiting genocide and frankly her going against him is not out of character, because we see how she calls him out for Liberio. also the whole “dream” subject is a silly argument because Mikasa specifies that she just wants to live the peaceful life she had when she was little and even makes Eren promise her that once everything ends they will live like that again. Which we know that for Eren that was not going to be that way. having criticism for her character is totally valid, but throughout the story she does change. Her love and devotion for Eren is totally understandable and this is not coming from a shipper perspective. rather than someone who sympathizes with her situation and understands why she is that way.

@@mercuriology45 THIS IS VERY LONG. READ AT UR OWN RISK. 1. This reply would've made sense had I argued that there are no reasons for mikasas devotion. But I didn't. I argued that the reasons for her deviation make her a shallow, underdeveloped character, so it makes sense why she is disliked. 2. I never said u said their relationship was healthy. Rather I put into question your dangerous usage of the word love to describe mikasas attachment to eren. She doesn't love him, she needs him. I brought up unhealthiness to show that it isn't love. You urself admit that their dynamic is unhealthy, so i don't know why you'd call that love. You also mentioned that she loves him because he risks himself for others. And in my original comment I said that is not what eren is. It is simply part of him. The biggest contrast to that characteristic is that he risks OTHERS for what he wants. Examples: when Thomas died he rashly went after the titan in anger, putting the reat of the group in danger. This isn't bc he doesn't care, but bc eren is a simple minded person. He lacks the ability to consider multiple things as equally important. He is blindsided by rage, revenge, guilt etc. He never grows from this, it just presents itself differently when he gains more power and knowledge. Levi is aware of this, that's why he always refers to eren as a child even after eren becomes an adult. Mikasa lacks the deep connection and understanding of a person that comes with loving someone, so she cannot love "eren". I don't think this quality alone makes her a bad character. In fact I think that sort of dynamic would be excellent to explore; how does one so attached to an ideal explore their perception of freedom in relation to themselves, the person they love, their community and the war ahead of them? But it isn't. Because isayama uses armin and eren as vectors for the audience to observe eren from a place of loss and longing. Armins is only more bearable bc his appearances exist outside of eren. 3. The point I made about her valuing other people's lives still stands. Because in all those examples she saves those lives bc eren isn't in danger. Had eren also been in danger, she would choose him regardless of the liklihood of succes. However, this is mitigated by the fact that mikasa is redirected by either order of those above her or self realisation after more thought. 4. Despite that, it still makes her unlikeable. Especially because, whether people admit it or not, AOT (compared to other media of the genre) is a very literal form of media. Philosophy is explored through imagery that doesn't require much interpretation or research (and in some cases is downright ignorant). The ideologies are explored in an ok manner at best. So it would be intelligent to write characters that fit with that. Isayama does so with every character expect mikasa. So it's no wonder that her character exploration is so jarring. It doesn't fit at all with the rest of the show. First it lacks compexity, then it's subtle and sudden like I originally said. She doesn't grow until late s3. And this growth is barely touched on, and impacts NOTHING outside of her existence. It's flat writing. Like u said, she values others more and has more independence. But that doesn't make her likable. It's the bare minimum?? Its barely any change compared to others. To expect people to not dislike a character that went from having a disregard for others to now appreciating their life is very hopeful. Mikasa compared to most anime characters is very good, but compared to most AOT characters is very bad. Again, justifying ppl disliking her. I think that attempt at character growth can only be successful in characters that have a larger appearance. To make such a detached person likeable, u need TIME. Think about it. In real life, is it not harder to form close relationships with people who are usually silent and distant? Yes. So of course it's nearly impossible with a person who's not just that, but also didn't think ur existence mattered for the majority of her life. Mikasa is hated because she lacks exploration and fleshing out. There are good bad characters ppl hate (griffith from berserk), good bad characters ppl love (satou from ajin), and bad good characters people hate - mikasa. It doesn't matter if mikasa is a bad or good person. It doesn't even matter that she's obsessed or in love with eren. It doesn't matter that her persona is justified. The publics reception of her is down to how she is portrayed. She needed more time and thought put into her to be comparable to the likes of reiner or eren. To say she is well developed is an insult to isayamas skill. She may have reasons for being the way she is, but they aren't explored enough to get more than a 6/10. In conclusion. People understand mikasa. It's just that understanding someone isn't enough reason to like them lol.

@@keke835 disliking her is completely fine. However there is a difference because we can understand why she is the way she is. What she feels for Eren is genuine love and you cannot define what you think or don’t think its love. Eren helps her understand that the world is cruel and that the only way to survive is to keep fighting, somenthing that is highlighted in the trost arc.“dangerous usage of love” be serious now, where is your degree on being able to classify what love is.She loves him and accepts him for who he is, however she at times can be overprotective over him to an unhealthy level. But her fear roots because after she lost everyone she feels its her job to protect the person she has left. Also most relationships eren in post time skip are unhealthy in that case, not only Mikasa’s. Her reasons are more than explored, she talks about living a peaceful life, unlike him she is not interested exactly in conflict or anything related to it. Whole reason she joins the corps is because of Eren and Armin being there. We do see her grow and respect her comrades. Your points are one again contradicting, because you said that you never said that i pointed out the relationship between Eren and Mikasa being “healthy” but proceed to write an essay on why they are unhealthy. I think their relationship is very complicated, but the love she has for him is extremely understandable. Also you saying that him saving people “its not a part of his character” WHAT AOT DID YOU WATCH. Eren throughout multiple times in the story saves his friends, which then again i never said that Mikasa loves him because of that, its more of the aspect that you would obviously love someome that has risked his life to save you and others. i feel like in a lot of your points you are honestly mischaracterizing Eren. My point out how she lacks empathy for others and puts others at risk for Eren but when i bring up the fact that she had saved the lives of many and form bonds with the people around her you go around and say “its not enough” Then again bringing up how she ends up killing him for the sake of humanity. i stand by what i say, sometimes Mikasa’s hate from her character comes a lot from misunderstanding. Many of her fans empathize with her situation and like her for the character that she is, a girl that was put in a terrible situation, but sees the beauty in the world that she views as cruel, and that beauty for her is the people she loves and protects so much. you say you claim to understand her, that’s why people dislike her. but yet ive barely seen you make any good points regarding her character, besides the contradictions that you constantly say. However in somenthing i do agree is the fact how Isayama refused to explore her in the sense of her inner thoughts, more of her relationship with others, explore more of her character, her powers. “insult to isayamas writing” quite frankly isayama insulted his writing himself when he made Reiner sniff that letter, Eren being asked about genocide and respond like “i don’t know bro” His writing is ANYTHING BUT PERFECT. Specially with whatever he did in the time skip. its ok i admit the fact that her character couldve been handled better but i do think that her character comes a lot from misunderstanding. quite frankly i disagree with how you view many characters so im not arguing with you anymore

​@keke835 who are you to decide how and why a person should love another? The love God?? 💀

No, she's a watered down Yuno Gasai

Same here

Facts! Same here.

IKR!

Me too

I think most people that dislike her do so because of how she treats others, she's pretty horrible to everyone except a few people. HEAVY SPOILERS I'm suprised she stopped the rumbling considering how little she cares about humanity. I don't hate her or dislike her btw, I can just see why people do.

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how are they the same?

Historia moved on and Mikasa didn't

Sorry, but I can't really see Mikasa as being that deep. Yeah, life is suffering and the world is cruel... _so what?_ I realized those facts when I was around 13 years old just from watching nature documentaries, and they aren't philosophical or deep ideas. Literally just basic facts of existence. The problem with Mikasa is that she never really extends her character beyond a very basic "I must protect my loved ones in this cruel world", which is so basic that a wild mammalian animal mother could replicate it just fine. The fact that Mikasa DOESN'T care about anyone other than her family is a point AGAINST her. Life is suffering means that we can't extend our compassion to plenty of other people and look beyond the needs of our own little circles? Lol no. It's why characters outside of the EMA trio like Reiner, Floch and Hange tend to get way more favoritism from fans, because these characters have complexities and layers beyond just "life is cruel and I love my family".

@@mrreyes5004 But she does care about others I main the most prominent one being that she is willing to stop Eren while she could just not care and could so have a relative peaceful life on paradise Island but she doesn’t because that would be against her moral. But there also a scene in season one I think where there still trapped outside the safe wall and she threatens the person blocking the pathway so all the people could walk inside the safety of the walls. From my Interpretation of her it is not that she doesn’t care but if she had to choose like in the situation with Ymir and Christa she would always always choose her family which is understandable like if I had to choose between a close my family and someone else I would also choose my family does it make morally good probably not. And she does have another theme that is interesting for me that is being abel to leave a Person you love so much but who has become you can’t get get behind but still loving them. I think that is something that can be hard for a lot of people. I think she represents somewhat a free will because even though Ackerman blood she is Abel to go against Eren she goes against her fate in a way. Of course it is completely fin to still not like her but I think a lot of her character development gets missed.

⁠@@mrreyes5004Mikasa doesn’t care about people outside of her circle because she doesn’t like getting attached, she’s afraid of losing them like she lost her family, so she stays cold and quiet to others. Mikasa accepted that the world is cruel and that there is nothing she can do about it, which sets her apart from other characters. She doesn’t have any “dreams” or something she wants to do before she dies, she simply just wanted to live a peaceful life with Eren inside the walls.

Of course she’s reviled she killed people brutally during the 57th expedition and said she will do it again if given a second chance image that if she killed your family you will hate her as well.

@@hightower2141 That isn't unique to her. Most if not all the characters would do it all again, it's one of the story's themes: a choice with no regrets. You're also conveniently leaving out that she's killed less people than most of the cast by this point and those she killed attacked her first or were going to attack her. She's surprisingly more ethical compared to others in the narrative. This is exactly what I mean by people in this fanbase misunderstanding the characters. You refuse to see past your own preconceptions and it prevents you from engaging with the text.

My favourite character was Historia.I really loved her romantic relationship with Ymir and her development, but her character was ruined for me by the fandom who saw her just as a passive "pretty white girl" and completely erased her love story with Ymir.

@@AnimaVox_ just watch serenity video on why the alliance makes no sense, I can’t believe what your saying stop this nonsense she attacked the walls first and she attacked the survey corps first by wiping out 70% the corps she killed Levi squad so of course they will try to kill her she made the first move.

@@hightower2141 Yeah, no, I don't think I will. I've seen this same song and dance before. If you can't understand the story's basic themes and get fundamental details about it wrong, then it's sadly above you. Isayama spelled it out pretty clearly, he wasn't very subtle at all-which says more about his audience than it does his flawed writing.

I'm not a manga reader but I think her turning on Eren last minute would be out of character. She can disagree with him as much as she wants but she never did anything to get in his way.

@@anitaremenarova6662 which is why so many don’t like the ending of the manga cause it makes absolutely no sense and has a ton of loop holes that were attempted to be masked all up.

@@tamezzodiac2862 Thats not the reason

@@tamezzodiac2862 to be fair Mikasa turning on Eren wasn’t a last minute thing. The ending had flaws but i think her killing him, wasn’t the problem. if anything was the pacing

@@mercuriology45 but if she was gonna turn on him it shouldn't of been made how it was. She should've actually turned on him. Yet even when she kills him she can't even turn on him fully. He then wrote basically a bunch of nonsense ab how she was the main character all along, and then how she finally broke free from him even though she legit didn't at all. It also turned Eren into super simp adding all this bs that was kinda contradictory to the beginning of the story. I don't care what the writer says cause it's pretty obvious in the beginning that she loves Eren an absurdly high amount and it's why she is so controlling, but Eren only simply likes her but doesn't actually have those feelings back like she does. It's just insane to think that would just magically change and the bomb of wrens thoughts would just be dropped, but in reality it seems more like thrown in parts. She and Armin were also willing to kill the whole town in the beginning of the story just to protect eren, but at the end they magically care about humanity which doesn't care about them and pretty much fed their civilization for years. Idrc what they did in the past because any civilization would completely wipe out the people that are trying to genocide them if they had the chance even if they were doing stuff to the others before. They then got completely nuked again in the end so like Eren was right. It basically made the whole story pointless, which if he is trying to show life is just as pointless there are plenty of ways to show that then pissing away a story. Even if he somehow added every loophole tying lore to the story to make it all connect it still would just be nonsense. I don't remember what exactly happens and such anymore, but I do know I once knew it all and yeah it's why I just stopped watching, and I also thought season 4 was just kinda meh. If he wanted to make Mikasa break free of Eren then he could've done that, but he didn't need to make Eren a super simp, and then make the cause the lamest reason ever because I doubt people in their situation would be so against killing off the people that basically put their civilization in hell for years and years.

Much appreciated!

Lmao

The video didn't convince me much. Mikasa still remain the most underdeveloped compared to the other female cast of the anime and her thoughts barely goes beyond of what eren wants. She really a bland character.

Ackerbond will never exist

Well AoT has one of the most dumb and worst fandoms out there..So understandable

"deep character" lmfao give me a break

@@supremeleaderfrancisco9062 can you explain why her character is not deep?

@@mister_buwa99 Because she has little to no character if you remove her obsession and interactions with Eren from her.

@@sapphicwriter that's a dumb argument because , it's like asking "remove all the freedom bs then what's Eren's character is ?" Or "remove titan stuff and then what's attack on titan?" lol Eren just plays a key role in her character arc and there's nothing wrong with it.🤷

Appreciate it

Thank you🖤

Maybe 👀

Everything u said here was valid. Thank you for respectfully giving your take🖤

1,000% Percent

She made her choice, there's no turning back now

Why can’t he just not lol

@@Philthorn You're wrong Eren! There's always a choice. Even the answer she gives you aren't the accurate one, I know Mikasa has hidden feelings for you in all these years. And just because you receives memories further to the future doesn't mean it is all set. Unless you are too drunk on your own freedom instead of rising up against your own nature.

And possibily alter his future... even if it means endangering Paradis when their plans for peace is to an option to the world.

Thank u so much 🙏🏾

Criticism is good

Maybe you should read the manga which showed a lot of Mikasa scenes being cut especially her fight with Annie in Trost. And writing this when in the beginning of chapter 1, we have Mikasa saying see you later to Eren when he wakes up from his bed so the proof Isayama did not show any romantic interest in their relationship is weak Grisha seeing Mikasa as his daughter does not change the fact that she literally keeps her family's surname after they were murdered by criminals And stop making the accusation that Eren was abusive towards Mikasa: You know eren was mostly had a immature and a inferiority complex and he literally grew over that in season 3 and started to see Mikasa more as a friend instead of a overbearing caretaker. Him trying to kill her in his titan form was a accident which he truly was shocked by when he heard about it when he was being judged in court because he was not aware of it. And yeah there are clearly moments where Eren literally shows vulnerability and care for Mikasa in the show

"Psychotic." 🤣

she looks cute with the short hair 👎👎👎

You guys are weirdos

Why? Just because she dosent have the frame of a little girl anymore? She has the frame of a grown woman now, so she’s beautiful

How tf is Levi misunderstood

​@@percygekkouga2151people view him as cool and edgy but there's to his character than that