The Missing Tomb of Amenhotep I

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7 ай бұрын

An online lecture by Dr Chris Naunton.
Amenhotep I was the second king of the Eighteenth Dynasty, and of the great period Egyptologists call the New Kingdom. Although all kings were semi-divine he seems to have enjoyed an unusually elevated status as a kind of ‘patron saint’ of the workmen of Deir el-Medina, who cut the royal tombs in the Valley of Kings. And yet his own tomb is one of few belonging to the kings of this period that has never been found. There are several candidate locations all of which are explored in this talk…
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@ttestates1 2 ай бұрын

After 40 years of studying Egyptology, to have these lectures by you, Dr. Naunton is simply Amazing! I've watched them over and over. I would love to go to the Valley with you.

@ChristopherNaunton 2 ай бұрын

This is lovely to read, thanks! In case you would like join me in the Valley of Kings I'll be going with a group in October... www.ancient.co.uk/holiday/temples-and-tombs-2/

@DierdraGoodman 7 ай бұрын

Lifelong ancient Egyptian enthusiast here. Dr. Chris, your lectures here on YT have absolutely ruined any interest for the plethora of ancient Egyptian vids that are suggested. Your lectures are mesmerizing; like a mostly romantic story that is grounded in fact and history. Thank you!

@ChristopherNaunton 7 ай бұрын

This is lovely to read, thank you so much!

@ttestates1 2 ай бұрын

Amen! I watch them over and over

@Richard47484 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for making this freely available. Strange that the mummy of Amenhotep II seems to have been removed from its tomb only to be then reinterred there.

@ChristopherNaunton 7 ай бұрын

Yes, it seems the mummies were being moved around quite a lot, rather than simply having been in their tombs and then moved to the two famous caches. More on all this in another talk of course! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/e96IpMKeyKzMk2Q.html

@rumbidzai 3 ай бұрын

I discovered Dr. Chris Naunton on History Hit's The Ancients with Tristan Hughes. The podcasts on Cleopatra's lost baths, her tomb and of course Alexander the Great's tomb are huge favorites of mine. Dr. Chris is a miracle of scientific dissemination and every lecture is an adventure and a pleasure.

@ChristopherNaunton 3 ай бұрын

Thank you so much! I will send a thank you to Tristan as well 😀

@nelen_co 7 ай бұрын

I hope you do put more on here. These are some of the best lectures I've ever attended (and that's after 8 yrs of university)

@ChristopherNaunton 7 ай бұрын

Thank you! There are a few more already recorded and queued up for release, and a few more in the pipeline!

@brittanymesserlie34 7 ай бұрын

Yay! I love seeing a new video is up!

@nefertiti4493 7 ай бұрын

Thank you so much 😊

@jahuti5065 7 ай бұрын

Very satisfyingly comprehensive and therefore an excellent reference when considering this topic. Many thanks for such an exhaustive, objective and thoroughly stimulating talk.

@ChristopherNaunton 7 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@por1821 7 ай бұрын

Thanks Chris always a KZfaq highlight when you share your research & thoughts. I really appreciate the level of detail and knowledge you bring to bear and you communicate it so beautifully... it is quite amazing to me that here you going to prepare and give a 2 hour monologue to your camera and make it so interesting, informative & entertaining 😊.... And on the subject of a lost Pharaoh's tomb... Yum Yum 😋

@ChristopherNaunton 7 ай бұрын

My pleasure, thanks for watching!

@shannonk.6528 7 ай бұрын

Thank you once again Dr. Naunton for another brilliant lecture. Very informative.

@ChristopherNaunton 7 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@auscountryguy30 7 ай бұрын

I look forward to when you post things mate🇦🇺

@annharrison6696 3 ай бұрын

excellent as always

@ChristopherNaunton 3 ай бұрын

Thank you Ann!

@lucanegri5169 7 ай бұрын

I believe that not only the original tomb of Amenhotep the first is somewhere under the cliff of Deir el Bahari, but also those of Tutmosi II (remember the green wood coffinet found there) and maybe Tutmosi I (before the translation in KV20 by her daughter Hatshepsut). I hope that Nirowinski is near to discover them. Thank you

@walterulasinksi7031 7 ай бұрын

There is also a social aspect to be considered . In that Amenhotep I inherited the throne from Ahmose and was succeeded by Thutmose I, then on to Amenhotep II, it is indicative of the royal social unification of The ancient family of Upper Egypt, the Hoteps and the middle kingdom family of Lower Egypt, the Moses. Such a unification of powerful families , would reunite Egypt and cause the power structure to not only rid Egypt of the Hyksos, but lay the groundwork for the strong Egyptian Empire of the New Kingdom. In this, Amenhotep I would show his acumen by naming his son Thutmose, his heir.

@josephstashkevetch2104 7 ай бұрын

Brilliant! Was just there Sept/Oct...makes me want to go back!

@mr2wo 7 ай бұрын

Love these Sir. Would love to see more docs too. Can never see too many. Please dont wait for BBC or channel 4. You dont need them.

@ChristopherNaunton 7 ай бұрын

Thank you! And I would love to participate in more documentaries (and have just finished filing for another)l unfortunately broadcasters like the BBC and Channel 4 provide the money for these films to be made so they are an indispensable part of the process!

@Fury421 7 ай бұрын

Thank you for these lectures. I find the glyphs for The Hyksos to be particularly interesting. Definitely see the Shepherd's crook, but the mountain glyph looks like a crown, or even a particular mountain chain of 3 peaks. The picture of the people on the wall is also interesting in the representation of a different people that wore beards and multicolored robes. I see many cross correlations of historical accounts.

@ChristopherNaunton 7 ай бұрын

It's an iconic scene, and very resonant, I agree!

@jamespurswell1600 7 ай бұрын

I would LOVE to tag along and see Egypt with a experienced Egyptologist such as yourself! I've been interested in, OBSESSED with really, and drawing bad pictures of the Pyramids since I was 5 years old! Should have gone to school for archaeology.

@ChristopherNaunton 7 ай бұрын

Come along! For more info about all my tours see chrisnaunton.com/visit-egypt/ hope to see you in Egypt!

@TonyEllen990 3 ай бұрын

Subscribed to all of your social media sites as soon as I got done with this lecture, Prof!! I am so indebted to you and this content! I am extremely glad I discovered your material on Ancient Egypt!

@ChristopherNaunton 3 ай бұрын

I'm glad too, thanks for watching!

@sokaikat674 7 ай бұрын

Thank you for another excellent lecture.

@ChristopherNaunton 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@donnabenda2682 7 ай бұрын

Another wonderful lecture!! I always eagerly await any and all new content from your channel!! I absolutely love your book “Egyptologists Notebooks “ it’s quite beautiful as well as informative!

@ChristopherNaunton 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching, and for reading!

@alinapostelnicu2242 7 ай бұрын

Thank you very much for sharing 😊

@naomiskilling1093 7 ай бұрын

I remember reading this all in your Lost Tombs book. To me (for what little my opinion counts) the one that seems the most likely is the courtyard tomb (K93 11/12) just because it seems very odd for a tomb to be that elaborate on the outside unless it was being used for worship. Like the pylon and courtyard screams temple, not tomb. I wouldn't be shocked if it was added onto the tomb when the people of Deir el Medina started worshipping Amenhotep I and Ahmose Nefertari.

@ChristopherNaunton 7 ай бұрын

Yes, I think that is my preferred candidate at the moment although AN B runs it close...!

@azwris 7 ай бұрын

Welcome back!

@ChristopherNaunton 7 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@yourlovelymadafaka8960 7 ай бұрын

Wonderfull, as usual. Always a pleasure to attend these master classes, so detailed and full of data and images! And about your request... Boutros Andraos (eldest brother of Yassa Pasha Andraos) and Shenouda Macarios (Luxor residents, rich amateur egyptologists) who worked for Loret into KV39 and for Howard Carter into KV42, under supervision and the agreement of share discoveries.

@ChristopherNaunton 7 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for this information! Where did you get it from can I ask (what have I missed reading?!)?

@JH-pt6ih 7 ай бұрын

11:00 on a Monday and Chris drops a 2+ hour video on Amenhotep. Now I don't usually take 2 plus hour lunches on a Monday ..... yeah, I better wait until this evening. :) ( I do often spend a half hour watching football (American) highlights during lunch on Mondays, which is why I saw this).

@ChristopherNaunton 7 ай бұрын

Ha, thanks for watching! (Not just me watching sports highlights on weekdays then!)

@MrHusang23 7 ай бұрын

As Horemheb is the ancient of the Ramessid pharaohs, I can see that they probably tried to preserve him. But Horemheb himself tried to erase Ay from history, along with Akhenaten and Tutankhamun, so why would later generations try and preserve Ay's mummy in a cache?

@ChristopherNaunton 7 ай бұрын

Interesting thoughts, thanks! I suspect that failing to preserve mummified remains was somehow beyond the pale even in the case of individuals whose memory was deliberately erased from the records e.g. Akhenaten and co - there is some evidence that one or two mummies might have been attacked as an act of damnatio memoriae but it's not conclusive, and a couple of others that might have been considered part of Akhenaten's heresy certainly survived i.e. Tiye and the KV 55 individual (albeit not with full ceremony in either case). My bet would be that if Ay's mummy hasn't survived it's not because he was part of the Amarna heresy.

@aripiispanen9349 7 ай бұрын

♪♫♥Very interesting - Thank you for sharing this knowledge !

@judithmartin6896 7 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for an informative and easy to follow talk on a very interesting subject. Very much appreciated. You mentioned groups you accompanied? Are these students or individuals with an interest? It would be wonderful to do a tour with such a knowledgeable person as yourself.

@ChristopherNaunton 7 ай бұрын

I'm in Cairo with a group at the moment! More info about future trips here: chrisnaunton.com/visit-egypt/ Hope to see you in Egypt!

@susanannekyle5953 6 ай бұрын

I think the reason his tomb can't be located is due to Amenhotep (Joseph) his bones were taken by his people back to the promised land.

@mgv12100 Ай бұрын

First of all, thanks for your talk! I have a question. How do egyptologists explain the complete lack of wall decorations in those tombs "nominated" as Amenhotep's I? We all know how important it was for ancient Egyptians for many reasons.

@ChristopherNaunton Ай бұрын

Thanks for watching! And good question... I'm not sure we can say exactly what the reason was but at the time of Amenhotep I this was probably standard. While the pyramids of the later Old Kingdom were lavishly decorated with, mostly, hieroglyphic inscriptions, the royal tombs of succeeding periods that have survived were generally undecorated see e.g. the pyramids of the 12th and 13th Dynasties, and the monument of Senusret III at Abydos which may have been a forerunner of the Valley of Kings tombs. The tombs of Amenhotep's immediate predecessors of the 17th Dynasty are now lost but several were entered in the mid-19th century, and the lack of decoration probably explains how they came to be lost - they had no obvious identifying features once they had been emptied. It's only with the tombs of the later 18th Dynasty, perhaps beginning with KV 20 (Thutmose I and Hatshepsut), that royal tombs came to be decorated again.

@mgv12100 Ай бұрын

@@ChristopherNaunton Thanks for the answer! That makes sense. I am not very familiar with the Middle Kingdom, let alone intermediate periods, so assumed royal tombs were decorated/inscribed pretty much always if circumstances permitted.

@jjs95100 7 ай бұрын

Chris i think in the next 5 years they will find and undisturbed pharoahs tomb in the valley of the kings full of gold. Im praying in my lifetime they will find tomb 🙏

@ChristopherNaunton 7 ай бұрын

It would be very exciting if any of the most sought after tombs were found! I first started working on the Lost Tombs idea in 2013 and since then none of those discussed in my book (chrisnaunton.com/searching-for-the-lost-tombs-of-egypt/) have been discovered. I have come to the conclusion however that not knowing, and the the mystery and discussion that generates, might be better than knowing...

@jjs95100 7 ай бұрын

@ChristopherNaunton it's been a long time since the last Pharonic tomb was found (1940s) only metal valuables survived because of the humidity in Psusennes I tomb, I get where you're coming from but I think its long overdue that we get to witness an undisturbed royal tomb hopefully with the same richness of Tutankhamun's tomb as we won't get to see another for 100s of years if not at all.

@ChristopherNaunton 6 ай бұрын

@@jjs95100 I'm not sure we'll ever see anything like Tut's tomb again but it's not impossible. Meanwhile did you see that the tomb of Thutmose II may have been found - as per the article in the most recent issue of Egyptian Archaeology (issue 63,'Has the Tomb of Thutmose II been found?' Piers Litherland).

@jjs95100 6 ай бұрын

@ChristopherNaunton didn't see nothing about that but I'll have a look now 👀

@ndennant 7 ай бұрын

A very interesting lecture as always. Chris, what are your thoughts on the Hyksos defeat inspiring the Exodus story?

@ChristopherNaunton 7 ай бұрын

Thanks! It's very interesting to think that some aspects of the Hyksos period in Egypt may have informed the Exodus narrative but it's impossible to prove any direct link so it can't be anything more than that - a possibility but an intriguing one nonetheless!

@walterulasinksi7031 7 ай бұрын

The tomb depiction does seem to be indicating what can also be considered as the hills of Canaan in the Levant. As there is no indication there of the hieroglyph for the chariot, this scene is one of peaceful coexistence and prosperity. There is no basis to assume that even if this denotes a “Hyksos” leader, that it was not a Canaanite ( Hebrew) person. From an administrative standpoint, the Namarch( regional Governor), would have had leaders of various groups of lower Egypt inhabitants. Such a leader from a Canaanite group would still be considered as a “Hyksos” but on a small level. Not to be confused with the military incursion that occurred some 200 years later.

@awuma 7 ай бұрын

Is it possible that the female line starting with Tetisheri is what tied the 18th Dynasty together, possibly even the 19th? I have read that Tuyu (she of Yuya and Tuyu) was descended from her. Yuya and Tuyu are perhaps the key couple of the mid-late 18th Dynasty. The influence of the 18th Dynasty queens was remarkable, and so was that of some of the 19th dynasty ones. Could a noble clan associated with this hypothetical line of queens have wielded considerable political clout over several centuries? Could the marriage of Ramses II and Nefertari Meritmut have finally cemented the links between the Northern Ramessides and the Upper Egyptian elite, perhaps displaced by the Northerner Horemheb with the passing (or elimination?) of Ay? Thanks for pointing out that the 18th Dynasty was just the familial continuation of the late 17th. The dynastic divisions are somewhat artificial... Of course, the division between the 18th and 19th is very clear, but why is Horemheb considered to be 18th and not 19th? (Again, the queens present an interesting question...). One last question: did not Thutmose III build his temple over or beside that of Mentuhotep II? No mention of that in the talk.

@ChristopherNaunton 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and for your thoughts! Yes, the women of the 18th Dynasty royal family in particular were clearly very influential; whether the female line was more important than the male line would be difficult to argue, but it may well have been a very important contributing factor at certain points. Yes, Thutmose III did build a temple nestled in the cliffs above the temple of Hatshepsut. It may not have seemed relevant to mention it at the time I gave the lecture although it's 2.5 years since this recording was made and I'm not 100% sure exactly what was in my mind!

@Boogie_the_cat 6 ай бұрын

Nyarlathotep! Hells yeah. Oh.Wait.Um. Nevermind. No offence, but the only hotep I'm curious about is the Nyarlat kind.

@mj6962 7 ай бұрын

What was the Egyptian name of the Biblical Joseph?

@ChristopherNaunton 7 ай бұрын

There are version of the Old Testament in various Coptic dialects but I'm not sure if the relevant part of Genesis has been preserved in Coptic, and I don't read the language myself in any case and so can't say if or how the name 'Joseph' appears. As far as I know there would be no writing of the name in any earlier phase of the Egyptian language. Hope this answers your question!

@nancylee4747 7 ай бұрын

In one of your videos that I was just watching you mentioned that some of king Tuts gold that had disappeared maybe during World War II had just come up for auction and was in private hands. why could authorities not have confiscated it for being stolen in the first place and return to Egypt where it belongs

@ChristopherNaunton 7 ай бұрын

I think the issue in this case is that although it is the conclusion of one author (Marc Gabolde) that the items that came up for sale were taken from Tutankhamun's mummy, it is not yet widely known or accepted that there was any such robbery in the first place, nor that these are the same items. I imagine the Egyptian government would need to take this up with the new owners, or with the auction house and I'm not aware of this having happened.

@amandarae2403 6 ай бұрын

I eonder if his is missing because he was crushed in the Red Sea during the Edodus of the Hyksos/Hebrews/Habiru? It would make sense ehy the nect 2 or 3 Pharoas were all youngins or not related/heirs.

@ChristopherNaunton 6 ай бұрын

From an Egyptological/archaeological point of view there isn't sufficient evidence to show without doubt that the events described in the Exodus narrative really took place. So while we can't absolutely rule it out, there isn't really any evidence to suggest that this is what happened. Sorry!

@amandarae2403 6 ай бұрын

@@ChristopherNaunton I hear you. I hear you, but I just wish that the Bible wasn't always discredited first and then only credited as a last and final resort, especially since we wouldn't even know about half the places we know about, save for the Bible documenting their existence. ✌️❤️😁

@atticus6572 3 ай бұрын

@@amandarae2403It's not a matter of discrediting the Bible. There's just a flimsy correlation at best here. I've found the best route to narrow down the pharaohs of Genesis and Exodus is, using the literal dates given by the Bible paired with our imprecise understanding of the Egyptian timeline.

@jmars309 7 ай бұрын

is not Amunhotep I buried next to his father Amose Ist ??? In the same area

@ChristopherNaunton 7 ай бұрын

Very possibly, but we don't know where Ahmose's tomb was for sure...

@mrliberty8468 Ай бұрын

Maybe his tomb is under the sea..

@jorgejuarez1860 7 ай бұрын

No espero que me haga caso pero deberia escribir o sus ideas principales,hacer notas o un guion para no estar pensando tanto en las ideas que tenga ya que es un poco molesto que sea tan dubitativo

@ChristopherNaunton 7 ай бұрын

In that case you might prefer reading chapter two of my book: chrisnaunton.com/searching-for-the-lost-tombs-of-egypt/ 😜