The More You Know Gaming: NEC’s PC-FX
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2 жыл бұрынWhat was the legacy that the PC-FX left behind? (More below….)
Episode Information
GTV 116 "The More You Know: PC-FX" Season 6 Episode 12
Original Airdate: September 18, 2021
Produced September 12-17, 2021
Recorded at Butsudan Studios and edited on my 15" MacBook Pro with Touch Bar, which was starting to show signs of age, though rock-solid.
Produced with Final Cut Pro and Photoshop, which my job paid for!
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@cherrystarscollide 2 жыл бұрын
What's a CD-rom-rom?
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
This line seems to confuse a lot of people but the PC Engine cd attachment was called the “CD-ROM2” and when I first saw that I thought that was a little strange because where is CD-ROM 1? But what I didn’t know is that in Japanese in casual writing, 2 means you repeat the word so they called it CD-ROM-ROM. This was probably a way to copyright the term or at least stand out as something original sounding So ever since I’ve learned that I’ve always called it “rom rom!” If you play some CD games in an audio CD player there will be a track that says rom-rom referring to either the disc or the machine. As far as pcfx, they just called it CD-ROM. Thanks for asking!
@oliverlowenherz835 2 жыл бұрын
@@GTV-Japan awesome answer :-O
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s kind of like adding y to someone’s name to show that you are friendly with them. And maybe it is a way to make cd rom sound cuter 😂
@analogmoz 2 жыл бұрын
Rev the engines! ROM, ROM, ROM
@afropowa1598 2 жыл бұрын
I think the PC-FX would have been successful if had done this: 1) Make it backward compatible with all of the PC Engine games and add ons. 2) Sell it at a lower price under the PSX & Saturn's prices. 3) Sell animes, real life shows and movies on that system. Since the quality was so clear during that time. If they would done those 3^, I think the system would have last & sold way more. Not every systems need to be strongest in term of graphic to sell alot (the Game Boy & Wii for examples). While 3D was the big thing during that time, there were still tons of 2D games being released and they sold decently.
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
Hard to disagree! I wonder why they didn’t do these?
@williammcguire130 Ай бұрын
@@GTV-JapanBecause in order to maintain backwards compatibility with the PC Engine they would have had to continue paying royalties to Hudson on the HuCard format.
@williammcguire130 Ай бұрын
There was literally nothing they could've done to fix this thing-- it was basically the Sega CD as stand alone console except released in 1995. This thing didn't have the support to take on the Super Famicom, much less the other new systems coming.
@Pupppeteer 2 жыл бұрын
GTV Japan is the pc engine of KZfaq. The true king!!
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I prefer to be known as “the 120 minutes” of yt but hey whatever works! 🍺
@ChromeColossus 2 жыл бұрын
The NEC consoles have always been the major blind spot in my console gaming knowledge, even though we actually owned a TurboGrafx-16. (I think my brother's friend just gave it away to us, which--ouch for NEC! But it broke just a few years later, unfortunately.) I honestly never knew PC-FX was even a thing, so this video was really fascinating and illuminating for me, thanks!
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
Then I’m glad I decided to make it! Thanks for watching!
@grinbrothers 2 жыл бұрын
The 5th gen of gaming consoles is the most fascinating one for me and it was fun to learn new info on the PC-FX in a nicely summarised video. It's delayed release leading to it competing with more powerful competition reminds me a lot of the situation with the Atari 7200, which was also released 2 years after it's creation and against tougher competition than it would have otherwise faced.
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah a lot of people have compared it to that. The thing is the Tramiel owned Atari Corp wanted the 7800 out immediately in 1984 but had issues over who would pay the developers and so they sat on it. Too bad!
@grinbrothers 2 жыл бұрын
@@GTV-Japan It'd have been interesting in either system's case as to what would have happened if they had released at their earlier time frame. Jack Tramiel wanted the 7800 out immediately? Huh, I thought the story was that he delayed it in order to have Atari focus on competing with his old company of Commodore in the home computer market (Atari ST vs Commodore's Amiga). Interesting to hear otherwise.
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
No that’s just how the story gets told these days. True they did focus on computers but they released 2600 games in 84 and 85 and brought out the 2600 jr in America in 85. The idea that not a single video game wasn’t sold during that time isn’t true. A lot of is Nintendo and their revisionist history. Another interesting point is that until it became self owned, Warner kept the Atari arcade division around because it made money!
@maroon9273 2 жыл бұрын
5th console generation is the best alongside the 6th and 4th generation
@koztech 2 жыл бұрын
I had a TG16. Bought it during it's "popular" days in North America. Got it home, and instead of "Bonk's Adventure", I got "Keith Courage in Alpha Zones". Not a bad game, would even consider it a Cult Classic. But I wanted Bonk's Adventure. Traded it with a friend for a portable (4-5") TV. Wish I had kept it though, even if it failed in NA, it had some good games. Did get the TG16 Mini. Wish it could be hacked because ironically (for me) it's missing "Keith Courage in Alpha Zones". As for the PCFX, I honestly didn't know about its existence until maybe the mid 2000's. Great insight into this platform.
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
That’s cool! The thing about Keith is that there was only one production order of tg16s so how ever many they made in 1989 (500-750k is estimated) that’s what they had forever because they ended up not selling all of them. So bonk was a mail away. That’s all they could do! Thanks for watching 💫
@DrMnike- 2 жыл бұрын
You are the best documentary expert! I love your content and finding more information about PC-FX is amazing. I saw this console in a EGM page and wonder how well they will do in Japan where they had great games for PC Engine. I also thought this console wouldn’t be available in this side of the Atlantic due to the TG-16 failure that made impossible for me to play some Castkevania X: Rondo of Blood. I learnt so much with your video! Thanks 🙏🏻
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
Hey. No problem! I’m glad you liked it. Thanks for watching as always!
@Pupppeteer 2 жыл бұрын
I really like the look of PC FX. Chunky and sturdy it obviously isn't as cool looking as a PS1 or mega drive but it has its own style that works.
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
It’s really cool and I can’t help but feel it inspired the vertical ps2
@amerigocosta7452 2 жыл бұрын
To me, the PC FX looks like a time capsule of an anime era I'm very familiar with, the late 80s to mid 90s. That alone makes it compelling to me if not very much fun to play with. Visual novels and related genres were already well established on computer platforms, many years before the PC-FX. To be honest I wouldn't credit much influence to the PC-FX about this. It is considered a failed console and that might be true, but still an interesting one. Nobody knew 100% how the market would move forward, so obviously many experiments went bad, but needed to be made. Not too different in concept and in fate than other Japanese (like the Bandai Playdia) or Western (the Commodore CDTV, or the very much talked Philips CDi) machines that are often ridiculed, but certainly deserve respect for what they were.
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
Good points! Thanks for sharing 💫
@yourbootyholeisyourbeautyhole 2 жыл бұрын
same! even the thumbnail reminds me of KiSS dolls from the 90s, or the kind of show that you'd see featured on hitoshi doi's website
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
The girl is called Moe who was often drawn for the pcfx freak magazine published around that time. The mag had 5 unique discs for the fx as well. Oops I guess I should have said that! 😅
@Rationalific 2 жыл бұрын
The late 80s to mid 90s was really when anime started to seep in to America, with "anime" really starting to gain some fans over here. By the mid-1990s, I was into anime as well. I remember Tenchi Muyo from the end of this video. I'm surprised there was no Ranma 1/2 to be found.
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
The show ended in like 1992 or something while the comic ran till 1996 so once the show ends usually the accompanying game series also ends. Sad. There was a live action ranma movie in 2011 though!
@elfiebranford9330 2 жыл бұрын
To me, it's always so oddly fascinating to look back at the late 80s and early 90s era of gaming. Not only was it before my time, but it really was the Wild West when it came to game consoles. It's so strange to think of how there's really only 3 big consoles today, but back then, not only were there multiple outsiders, but different variations that experimented with graphics and add-ons. Call me crazy, but I almost yearn for this type of gaming climate nowadays. Sure, it'd be chaotic, but man, would it ever be fun!!
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
Well if you want to count the amico… ha ha ha
@thewingedavenger1007 2 жыл бұрын
It's hard to believe they botched the successor to such a great console as the PC Engine. That system was as good as the SNES and SMD, and is considered legendary to this day. Now that I think if it, the 16-bit era may have been the best, because it also had the Neo Geo, which meant four awesome consoles competing in the same era.
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s hard to believe! I liked how you had super turbo and mega all at the same time
@Fellipe2k5 2 жыл бұрын
16bit: PC Engine / Mega Drive / Snes / Neo Geo 32/64bit: Saturn / PS1 / N64 128bit: Dreamcast / PS2/ GameCube / Xbox Golden Age!
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
What’s gaming today? 512 bits? Or maybe 64 bytes?
@Fellipe2k5 2 жыл бұрын
@@GTV-Japan 🤣🤣 Now is “OnlyHypeBaseless Bit” generation
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
Yea pretty much!
@garlandstrife 2 жыл бұрын
This channel needs like 10x (at least) more subs
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
That would be nice! 301,000 or more! But really I appreciate what I already have. Lots of well deserving channels won’t get this far. So I feel lucky already! Thanks for supporting the channel! 🍺
@rometherevenant8749 Жыл бұрын
Man I would love to take this thing apart to admire the internals of the time. I love these classic machines. It makes me appreciate the advancement in current video game hardware.
@GTV-Japan Жыл бұрын
I like the design a lot. Certainly very different
@raccooncitycinema 2 жыл бұрын
I had one of these and it was probably the most interesting thing because no one knew what it was! A pc tower console with giant plastic game cases. Gonna have to replay Team Innocent soon. Great video!
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I love the design so much so creative!
@bananonymouslastname5693 2 жыл бұрын
I like Team Innocent. It did the Resident Evil gameplay in sci-fi anime flavor, amd before Resident Evil had become a thing.
@dpc4548 2 жыл бұрын
Man I love this console. The games on this (I have all of them) are great! They look better than most other games from other consoles of that generation and it does some amazing things that the others couldn't.
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah! All hail 2d!
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have any PC-FX memories? Or just an opinion how it all turned out? Discuss!
@dpc4548 2 жыл бұрын
I just commented about how much I love this thing, but another aspect is that NEC were PC kings at the time as well as on top of the world with the PC Engine through two generations. They were worried that a new console would step on the toes of their other platform. Hence, they made PC-FX games playable on PC. I got that that thing on release, it was unbelievable being able to play videos like that on my computer. I was more happy that they kept the original sound from the PC Engine without falling into the FM trap that nobody wanted. PLUS, they looked at what PC-98 players wanted and that's what the PC-FX got. They didn't seem to think that console players might want something different. It's basically the same mistake Sony has made now, thinking that everybody wants to play the same things. It's just Sony doesn't have a PC platform to fall back on. Sony still has time to fix things, NEC doesn't. NEC made the right choices at the time and I think anybody else would have done the same. The market was shifting majorly, though. It's a shame.
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
NEC gets the last laugh because some game machines and a lot of computers and other stuff use their parts. So they are still humming along and will for a long time
@bananonymouslastname5693 2 жыл бұрын
I have a PC-FX still. There's not a ton to play for a non-Japanese speaker, but I've really enjoyed a few. Last Imperial Prince was a lot of fun, and felt like a Falcom game. Zeroigar has such a great '90s anime robot flavor. Team Innocent is a great game in early survival horror modes... there's fun stuff to play. Just wish Zenki didn't cost so much
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your list of must plays!
@markus5862 2 жыл бұрын
Hells yeah, a vid! Best gaming channel on KZfaq, bar none. Gives me the feel of the old famimaga videos (which would make a great history of video or even fan translations 😉) . Time to grab the pocari sweat and my dagashi snacks
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks I’m glad you like the channel! 🍺
@baardbi 2 жыл бұрын
Woohoooo! Yes!!! I've been waiting for this one. The PC-FX is the future I deserved but never got. Thank you for an amazing episode.
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome! Sorry for the delay!
@countofarcadia 2 жыл бұрын
NEC and Hudson made a lot of mistakes, but if they could have released in 1993, they might have built up some market share before the Saturn and PlayStation.
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah and they saw all of it coming all of 94 and did nothing! Even the tv show got it wrong because the planned date of dec 9 was delayed because they still weren’t ready!!
@maroon9273 2 жыл бұрын
Much better than releasing in 94 during the launch year of the Saturn and ps1 which were more powerful systems.
@dimitripapadopoulos5180 2 жыл бұрын
I love the variety of 2d art styles of the games from long ago. I want to see a return to hand painted high end 2d art like , Battle Circuit, Sexy Parodius and Street Fighter 3 3rd Strike. In fact I wanna see how far 2d art can go with modern technology.
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed! but sadly hand drawn artists are disappearing as everyone does cg. but id love it
@maroon9273 Жыл бұрын
5th gen had the best pixel art games that have aged so well and in its prime years.
@briansivley2001 2 жыл бұрын
Seeing those anime cutscenes makes me miss the 90s😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭. I think the 90s had the best style of anime ever. There's just stuff you can't imitate on computers and one of them is the hand drawn feel. Sure sometimes it can like with Cuphead that's a beautiful game and it was first hand drawn than colored in on computer but with the 90s anime style you can't imitate it.
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s sad it’s becoming a lost art. I love that style
@vitacilina555 2 жыл бұрын
Quite interesting and enjoyable as always!
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!
@lupeayala3125 2 жыл бұрын
I love the Turbografx 16! I never knew NEC made this system. Now I know. Very interesting! 👍🍻
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching as always
@syntaxerror9994 Жыл бұрын
7:07 OH GOOD GOD, WHAT AM I LOOKING AT?!? That will haunt my nightmares for years to come.
@GTV-Japan Жыл бұрын
Manami!
@dylan.t180 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always perfect timing Video Game Esoterica is currently doing a video series covering his favourite game for the system
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support! 🍺
@Sarcophagus74 2 жыл бұрын
Gaijin. Everyone's favorite foreigner. lol This was a great vid! Mata ne.
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you liked it!
@YOG3NSHA 2 жыл бұрын
I miss the visual style of old VNs and Anime...
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
Yes me too! Hand drawn 2 d for life
@pauldaniel6208 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this video. The PC-FX has some truly unique titles and is often misunderstood as some kind of perverted hentai platform, which it is not. The motion JPEG FMV gameplay is seamless and the response time coming from only a 2x CD-ROM is still impressive today.
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks I’m glad you liked it
@hemangchauhan2864 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating history. Never know there was a successor to NEC consoles.
@GTV-Japan Жыл бұрын
The more you know 💫
@dejiko 2 жыл бұрын
I played Chip Chan Kick years ago for the sake of experiencing that 90s 32 bit fanservice.
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
It’s pretty good!
@Holammer 2 жыл бұрын
1:33 I remember seeing a screenshot of that demo in Edge Magazine back in the days. Did not expect such a strange nostalgia trip watching this video.
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
Happy to deliver! Thanks for watching as always
@susantuna3434 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a fan of this consoles and games cause they have superb 2d art like really crazy stuff that you can't get on other consoles
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
I know! I love 2d hand drawn anine. They don’t make it like that anymore
@themblan 2 жыл бұрын
“Sea change” is one of those terms that looks better on paper than spoken aloud.
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah maybe. Hey at least I wrote it down first and didn’t wing it
@pferreira1983 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the brief retrospective. The PC Engine wasn't even a thing in the UK. Ironic that being ahead of the competition ended up making NEC behind the competition.
@GTV-Japan Жыл бұрын
Funny how that works!
@cookieface80 7 ай бұрын
It was available as the TurboGrafix (no number in the title), but it was hard to get.
@pferreira1983 7 ай бұрын
@@cookieface80 It was available at shops where you could import but it was never really launched in the UK.
@cookieface80 7 ай бұрын
@@pferreira1983 The launch was technically cancelled but they liquidated the stock by releasing it on mail-order. That's the actual PAL model.
@pferreira1983 7 ай бұрын
@@cookieface80 Oh okay. I take it there wasn't many PAL games released then?
@VirtuaColin 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Next time, I’d love to see you talk about the Casio Loopy
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
Ahhh I dunno. If there’s a way to make it interesting then maybe
@sega_kid4288 2 жыл бұрын
I kind of see Sega following NECs lead in a lot of way with Cd addons, 32x = Supergrafx and not knowing how to be successful in the console space when they had some momentum. It’s a shame, but launching a console and maintaining a lead in that space is incredibly hard. Even Nintendo has had some stinkers like the Wii U and Virtual Boy
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
And the GameCube!! (Heel heat!… but ya know I’m right!)
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
Part of the add on frenzy was covered in the sonic video that I did. In Japan every family got huge bonuses from dads job so there were attempts to get some of the money. Of course when everything is made in Japan the money circles around nicely. And if it so called “failed” in the eyes of KZfaqrs not yet born, so what? That tech is old! On to the next thing for next years bonus
@ModernVintageTV0 2 жыл бұрын
@@GTV-Japan The GameCube was a great system,despite falling behind the PS2.
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but sales wise it was like yowch
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
For me personally I never knew a single person who had a GameCube. Everyone had a ps2. When I came to Japan the games were actually hard to find despite being new and in production
@OneControllerPort 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool run down of the history! I'm a fan of the PC-FX and recently made a video going over the software library itself. Though I more or less skipped the reason why the system ended up being what it was. It's kind of funny that so many PC-FX videos are coming out all at once lol.
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
Cool! I’ll check that out when I have time
@OneControllerPort 2 жыл бұрын
@@GTV-Japan Sure! I can provide a link if that's easier for you. Though as of right now, it's set as my advertisement video for the channel.
@willdill4987 2 жыл бұрын
Wow never even heard of this system.
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
The more you know! 💫 now go look it up maybe try out an emulator and see what it’s all about. Thanks for watching!
@cragland94 2 жыл бұрын
nice work :)
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks 🍺
@Waifu4Life 2 жыл бұрын
The irony in all of this is that once the dust of the 5th, 6th and 7th gen era settled, people are now back playing 2D style games, proving that there's still a market for it.
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah! It’s weird how 2d made a comeback
@maroon9273 2 жыл бұрын
I think the 7th and the end of the 6th generation started resurgence of 2D gaming when they released arcade compilations and remastering releasing classic 2d games.
@kicapanmanis1060 2 жыл бұрын
This channel is so underrated.
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
It does have that 120 Minutes kind of feel to it right? Thanks for supporting the channel with your viewership ⭐️
@napoleoncoronadocortes5740 2 жыл бұрын
I know about that system in a sadly extinct mexican videogame magazine, the article said promoted as a media Center, play vídeo games and listen your músic also see movies on VCD, before ps2 and Xbox. The 3d was the deal back in early the 90s, it's like the fm Town, the pippin, strange name. Great vídeo camarada.
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think it played vcd. Those were very cool however.
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah that played vcd. But it was mecha takai
@trustme2674 2 жыл бұрын
Saturday just got a lot better!!
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
🍺
@Riz2336 2 жыл бұрын
a console that relies on just FMV stuff is bound to fail
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
Well maybe so. But it was popular at the time
@overkill1473 2 жыл бұрын
But SONY had other plans. Who just had put all their eggs into the polygon basket. Fun fact: Playstation 2D games were being realized using transparent polygons.
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t know that!
@darktetsuya 2 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing these covered and advertised in gaming mags back in the day, (I think die hard gamefan had the most coverage of it that I remember) especially in those import stores that specialized in Japanese games/systems/soundtracks, as well as CDs and figures! it definitely seemed like a neat system, a few of those games seemed like they might be fun! (I was really curious about how the one anime fmv fighter played, seemed like an interesting idea!)
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
I never played it but I did play time gal which was kind of like dragons lair as for as how it played I imagine it’s kind of the same. Push the buttons in enough time to make it work. Die hard game fan was great! Of course it was just to promote their mail order business but so what? A great side product!
@darktetsuya 2 жыл бұрын
@@GTV-Japan oh yeah I heard people suspect it was just a front for their import store, but all the same I really liked the import coverage. yeah you're probably right I'm sure the combat is extremely limited (as an aside I got hooked on an ISO of Ninja Hayate, which I believe came in a double pack for PSX/Saturn alongside Time Gal, that one's actually super fun!)
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
The first few issues were basically just catalogs. But they really created something special. It also helps the issues looked like the liner notes from Superunknown
@only1gameguru 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always. No PC-FX mini me thinks though ;
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
Haha nope but it would be so cute
@only1gameguru 2 жыл бұрын
@@GTV-Japan though there weren't many games and some would be CERO Z or AO lol
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
Yea totally! They had their own ratings and it probably helped push for a system here
@sunekoo 2 жыл бұрын
This needs a mister core
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
I’m fine with open emu. Runs great!
@arioca 2 жыл бұрын
@@GTV-Japan I also use Open Emu on my Mac, it’s great! That’s how I checked PC-FX games.
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Why spend money on anything I say!
@arioca 2 жыл бұрын
@@GTV-Japan I'd only spend money on a few noble causes like the Humble Museum or investing on the Amicoo, lol
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
When it’s other people’s money, it’s easy to do
@catriamflockentanz 2 жыл бұрын
2:53 If nothing else the roman numbers on the controller buttons are unique at least.
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine writing out sf2 style combo codes that way. Oy!
@shinybug2307 2 жыл бұрын
6:11 am I looking at Cuphead ancestor here?
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
Ha I don’t think so…
@dorklymorkly3290 2 жыл бұрын
What a nice two-fer, and it was something new for me, too. Back in the days, I somehow saw very very very very very little about the PC Engine/TurboGrafx but also saw the name itself pop up quite often. Hard to describe. Maybe it's cause I'm from Germany (and rural), that has changed over time, but yeah, this was still something I did not know, thanks. (Also, regarding this strange 'rarely seen' but 'heard about quite a few times: The 3DO was a bit similar, I heard about it quite a bit, but I've only seen it very rarely in catalogues and the like. NeoGeo, though? I only learned of that one after getting the internet, same with the CPS and boy do both of these have some top notch fighting games in them. )
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I can imagine these things weren’t even sold there. I’m always interested in seeing how the landscape was in each place back then. Thanks for watching as always 🍺 Prost!
@TBoneTony 2 жыл бұрын
You wonder where the quote from "Welcome to the NHK" anime came from? It all started with the PC-FX system and their role in transitioning Japanese H Games from consoles to the Personal Computer.
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
Ohhh yeah! Thanks for bringing that up
@zacharygirgenti3790 2 жыл бұрын
This is reminiscent of Atari with the release of the 7800. It's unfortunate that they weren't able to succeed but it is fascinating to imagine how history might have been altered had they decided to launch when it was more relevant. Hard to say with the hefty price tag and niche genres of games but perhaps the market would have been healthy enough for NEC to stay in the console business.
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
I could see it being really popular because those pce CD anime games were great. I guess they decided it would be impossible to migrate everyone over and a few years earlier it could have been even more expensive?
@matthewcoreyhall 2 жыл бұрын
I'd be very curious to read some interviews from NEC/Hudson employees regarding their strategy. There had to of been a lot of internal conflict on the direction of the hardware and software.
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
That would be interesting to see. Especially since the standard lifecycle hadn’t really been formalized at that time. Thanks for watching!
@Rationalific 2 жыл бұрын
No memories... Alas, I did not get to spend the night together with Duo or the PC-FX.
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
Few could be so lucky as to know her
@Rationalific 2 жыл бұрын
@@GTV-Japan 👍
@stupidbluebird 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if it would have been more successful had they not delayed it as much as they did
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
I’m sure of it. But why was it delayed when it was reported to be ready long before that?? Hmm
@SDChargers93 2 жыл бұрын
It’s refreshing seeing new Retro Content. Because let me tell you the landscape is so beaten the horse is now glue and they are just beating on a glue slop mess. But idiot keep giving people “the funding” to keep talking about “ SeGa GeNeSiS ToP TeNN” BS Your video is short sweet and to the damn point. Also never have played the NEC systems it’s cool to see history on this system.
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for enjoying the video! You won’t see stuff like that here. And the next video is going to be truly original so I hope you’ll come back for it
@SDChargers93 2 жыл бұрын
@@GTV-Japan well so far “knock on wood” the sub glitch is not happening anymore. I finally got a notification “late” but I got a notification and I had to watch your latest video lol. I’ll definitely be back for the next one my man.
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
Oh that sux. You’d think KZfaq could be on top of that.
@SDChargers93 2 жыл бұрын
@@GTV-Japan if you had a million subs and maybe a VPN to shill they would move fast. But us little channels they keep suppressed
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
I only have fake parody ads 😂 no need to clog up a video with nord or honey or whatever
@NoelComiX 2 жыл бұрын
Best PSA ever
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
yepp!
@tommylakindasorta3068 2 жыл бұрын
I was a huge Turbo Duo fan and an avid collector of Japanese console games in the '90s. The PC-FX always intrigued my Japan-obsessed brain, but I held out until the summer of '98, when I finally imported one. They had already reduced the price by then, but I don't think I fully understood that I was buying a dead system -- information was harder to come by back then. I bought around 10 games, of which I was only really able to play three or four of them. I was in college and my minor was Japanese, but I still found it too tedious to read and translate the reams and reams of text contained in most of the games. I remember thinking they felt more like PC games, which I mostly didn't care for. When the Dreamcast came out, I lost all interest in the PC-FX and traded it to a guy for a Nintendo 64 and some games. At least I got to play Mario and Zelda out of the deal.
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing a great story
@CriticalEatsJapan 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, that was not cheap, especially back then
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
No sir it was not! For a while though they were cheap in used shops because of low demand. I think it’s gone up recently so
@maroon9273 Жыл бұрын
I wish NEC kept its 3D chip in the pcfx. This chip makes the pcfx 4th most powerful console out of 5th gen era.
@GTV-Japan Жыл бұрын
I laid out the reasoning behind it and from the point of view in 1990 2d made a lot of sense. The truth is nobody saw the PlayStation coming and how serious Sony was about reshaping gaming the way they saw fit.
@maroon9273 11 ай бұрын
@@GTV-Japanyes, it bite them on their back. I wish NEC would've left the console market after the pc engine and release a pcfx ga living room computer instead of the pc-fx console.
@megamanfan3 2 жыл бұрын
5:14 LGR did a video on the PC-FX GA. It was, indeed, odd.
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
I like that kind of thing. The duo had something similar. Or at least planned to.
@Indalord. 2 жыл бұрын
I never have seen one o those. I have observed that a video about Final fantasy was deleted, unfortunately I did not get to see it
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
It was the soundtrack to pixel remasters. I put them on Odysee after the takedown
@VanessaAndTheShadows 2 жыл бұрын
Another fascinating look! Also - what show is that where the PC-FX is being show, and W-Koji from Gottsu Ee Kanji are in the background? Koji Imada looks like he's trying to muster up every bit of excitement he can but his face is just failing to follow through :D
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know the name but there was a weekly games show of some kind back then covering all kinds of stuff. Someone has been upping a lot of the episodes recently
@Left-Earth 2 жыл бұрын
_This should be taught in schools._ *Instead I had to learn it on the streets.* 😅
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
The mean streets of KZfaq
@feiwong3634 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, as always high quality stuff from your videos, and i have a question to you: Some of your videos have spanish subtitles, and some others doesn't, this is because someone send them to you to implement them? Or it is you who put them? I'm curious because i love to share them with my friends but they doesnt speak or understand english (I'm from Spain) and its always great if i see the subs so i can send to them and they can enjoy the videos aswell. Anyways, keep the amazing work as always!
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
After I made the video for club Nintendo I added Spanish subs, auto translated, because I now had a part of an audience who weren’t perfect in English. I went back and added some to popular vids but not all. Actually KZfaq decided to ruin how subtitles are handled so fans can’t share any now
@feiwong3634 2 жыл бұрын
@@GTV-Japan I see, thats cool, and i'm not surprised about that of KZfaq, they f* up a lot of things recently. Thanks for the response!
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
No problem!!
@The666cuervo 2 жыл бұрын
Se agradecen esos subtitulos en Español 👍🏻.
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
De nada 🍺
@martinevans1206 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard that it wasn’t the system itself that was limiting but the restriction NEC placed on developers, particularly Hudson Soft, to only make anime FMV-type games, effectively hamstringing its appeal.
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm! Never heard that but it’s seems correct!
@BlueMageWithSoulEdge 2 жыл бұрын
Teach me more, senpai!
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
Check the video I released today for a real knowledge bomb
@orlandoturbo6431 Жыл бұрын
They should had made the PC-FX compatible with the PC Engine games.
@GTV-Japan Жыл бұрын
Backwards compatibility was always grounded upon in the industry because it was feared, rightly so, that fewer games would be developed for the new hardware and the older one would just continue on. Not to mention the perception of the new machine being an upgrade or continuation of the old one and therefore not as powerful at least in the eyes of the consumer. And of course back then and in Japan still, there wasn’t this concept that a customer would keep every single game that they owned, building a giant game wall shrine in the house where every game would be played for all time. Old games were considered worthless and were often sold off. After all the company bonus with 2-3x a month’s pay is coming so you need something new to spend that money on. And so for these reasons I will stand by the notion, probably alone, that backwards compatibility would have not been a good idea. Thanks for watching
@Gencoil 2 жыл бұрын
They shouldn't have waited so long.
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
Yep! Had there been a pc fx 2 in like 97 or 98 after 4-5 years in stores who knows what they coulda done! Thanks for watching as always! 🍺
@ChristopherSobieniak Жыл бұрын
Classic vaporware.
@JustJulyo 2 жыл бұрын
Hey brain, what should I keep in the database? How to perform my task in an efficient manner? OR NEC's PC-FX despite never hearing about it?
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
I would say focus on the task. But I am not your brain!
@JustJulyo 2 жыл бұрын
@@GTV-Japan I never needed to know how to edit videos anyway
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
It’s very easy but mastering the jog wheel takes skill and talent
@cabbusses 2 жыл бұрын
Late comment. I have a PC-FX I got some time ago. I learned how to play Battle Heat on it. It's a real interesting game concept and it's really sad that that game is stuck on that hardware with no apparent possibility of a remake or port to anything modern.
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s too bad that kind of game is lost to time. Who’d ever think 3D polygons would look better than video, live or animated? Not me! Thanks for coming back around. Take care until next time.
@cabbusses 2 жыл бұрын
@@GTV-Japan Thanks! I have a mix of irl and KZfaq business that often keeps me away from watching other people's content, but during my prolonged demonetization period I figured I'd try catching up on things. Hope to see you again soon!
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I’m still around
@orlandoturbo6431 2 жыл бұрын
Can you play PC Engine games on the PC-FX
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
No. That would be cool though
@larryflaco8320 2 жыл бұрын
now do a video on silicon graphics computer
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
you mean like the computers that made Jurassic Park and stuff? I don't know much about it....
@thewingedavenger1007 2 жыл бұрын
There was really no way anyone could have successfully competed with the PS1 in that generation, because Sony secured a ton of third-party support. The PS1 library of games is absolutely stellar. If you limit yourself to a top ten or top twenty, I would say that the N64 was better than the PS1, but when you go beyond twenty games you notice that the PS1 library continues to offer 5-star games while the N64 library doesn't. The Sega Saturn sadly was a disaster of planning and organization. It had a ton of great 2D games but there was no way those could compete in the mid-to-late 90s. It was like the Atari 7800 competing against the NES and SMS.
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah!! Exactly! And Sony was never going to stop until they were number 1. For me when square switched sides it was over. Ps all the way
@sonic23233 2 жыл бұрын
Can you talk about the dragon slayer the legend of heroes games?
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm it’s not on the list as of right now. If I can find a way at to create an interesting story from it I will. Thanks for the suggestion
@sonic23233 2 жыл бұрын
@@GTV-Japan ok
@snesfan8935 2 жыл бұрын
I knew only two playeble games on PCFX - Zenki and Battle Heat. Other, just dating sim crap.
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
yeah, thats about right!
@otis4225 2 жыл бұрын
I just got a pcfx and have been trying to burn games with no success can someone please help me.
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
sorry i only use emulators
@skins4thewin 2 жыл бұрын
They were caught off guard by the coming sea change? Tf does that even mean?
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
The leader position shifted from Nintendo to Sony while 2d moved to 3d
@skins4thewin 2 жыл бұрын
@@GTV-Japan Ah I gotcha. Very true.
@XRWKET 2 жыл бұрын
sea change noun a profound or notable transformation.
@skins4thewin 2 жыл бұрын
@@XRWKET Gotcha. Still, could have probably been a bit more clear on what he was talking about I think.
@vuetoob3983 2 жыл бұрын
CD-ROM ROM???? Did I hear that right, multiple times?
@XRWKET 2 жыл бұрын
What? You've never heard of Compact Disc Read Only Memory Read Only Memory? ;-)
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
They did call the CD add on “CD-ROM2” which was read as CD rom rom. I think it was a way to get a copyright for the word CD rom in a way. But ya they called them rom roms. I think it’s funny!
@vuetoob3983 2 жыл бұрын
@@GTV-Japan thanks trivia knowledge I did not know.
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
No problem!
@39zack 2 жыл бұрын
CD-ROM-ROM 😸
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
You know it!
@39zack 2 жыл бұрын
@@GTV-Japan more rom, more fun 😸
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
That sounds about right
@akalyx 2 жыл бұрын
@1:35 we all know they were really working on a hentai simulator (that i would have purchased alongside the pc-fx) did NEC make this to migrate people to PC's?
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t be surprised if that was the plan
@Vulpas 2 жыл бұрын
This channel is cool but what's with calling home console games "TV games"?
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
Because that’s what they are. A game on the tv!
@Vulpas 2 жыл бұрын
@@GTV-Japan Hm, I guess, but by that logic PC games are "monitor" games lol
@GTV-Japan 2 жыл бұрын
No. They are pc games because they are played on the pc!
@RegalPixelKing 10 ай бұрын
It really was stupid for NEC to just sit on this hardware for nearly 3 years. Like did they seriously expect hardware to not improve and for new consoles to not release somewhere in that timespan? The stupidly high price point for the 3 year old hardware and complete lack of 3D capabilities made this console DOA. An impressively stupid blunder by a company that managed to reach second place in Japan with the success of the PC Engine.
@GTV-Japan 10 ай бұрын
They were first place in 1989! PCE outsold the FC. And actually only the SFC knocked it out, despite steady FC sales. But yeah it’s often a case of investing so much in something already you have to put it out to make the money back. But hey NEC helped make the processors in the GC and Wii so there’s that
@RegalPixelKing 10 ай бұрын
@@GTV-Japan I didn't know that NEC helped with the processors of the GC and Wii, that's really cool. One thing that NEC has always been great with is hardware, even if their business strategies tend to leave a lot to be desired.
@GTV-Japan 10 ай бұрын
@RegalPixelKing they still make PCs and other kinds of doodads. One time I was a product tester for some kind of medical scanner they were working on
@dj-villawolf900c Жыл бұрын
💿 CD _ Rom .
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