What is the best way to play the M4(76) Jumbo?

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Day 141 of asking spookston to play the 15cm sIG 33b sfl

Gotta love how they still haven't fixed volumetric and every time they "fix" the maps they somehow become even worse but don't worry, they'll be introducing a new 70 dollar premium for every tech tree in every update, that's the important stuff.

Volumetric is the absolute worst, yeah it do IS 2 vs Panther D turret, non pen

Amazing how few times he was even targetted by CAS, considering he was fighting USA almost every round.

The fortune cookie bypassed his curse! And Panda Express is a good Chinese place, glad to know your fam eats there

Half-Chinese person here; it’s *technically* not Chinese food but goddamn it I’m gonna treat it like it is. It’s good fucking food.

If he folded a thousand paper cranes in a year, would he be able to escape cas for the year?

Bro second guesses himself sooo much on ranges

no it was like 3

Literally got a match where a rock looks like a Panther, schizo moment I swear

Four fucking pixels

@@xxxD3FC0N_1xxx Beat me to it xd

you guys are way too good i cant see a tank point blank

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Also removes curses

Add the following as optionals: [ ] Plays ground RB, looks inside, planes [X] Can I pls win [ ] (When playing any german Tank): Insulting Germany for making bad tanks [X] (When playing soviet Tanks): Complaing about gun depression [X] Complaing about full uptiers/getting one (and by one I mean like 70% of games)

@@felraksis [ ] Complaining about german teammates

Not gonna lie, Spookston may be the reason I've been saying "Jeez Louise" a lot recently.

[X] says a Word in spanish

[X] “get clowned on”

I would like to add that : 1. Milk trucks can and will survive a 122mm round directly into the chassis (Gaijin pls bring back hull break) 2. No matter the caliber, a Panther’s mantlet is the closest thing in the universe to an immovable object 3. The loader is the most vital member of the crew 4. They call it a heavy tank just because it’s slow 5. Good thing you don’t have to aim for weakspots, because they would have to really try in order to not hit yours

I've found myself enjoying it as a backup to my 2S3M and 2S1 for engames. Most people got their big scary heavies out of the way and you don't see enough people in endgame for the reload to be much issue. It's also increadibly ratty as you can just annihilate anything that isn't a T32 (it can actually pen a T34's ufp and front turret weakspots, or a tiger 2H's slightly angled side armor as it's only 80mm). Your biggest enemies are: -vlad on his toyota pickup with bertha, his heavy machinegun -that one vk30.02M that for some reason has the same pen as you, enough he filler to oneshot you and a quarter of the reload. Same obviously applies to every. Fcking. Medium tank at that br bracket -bombs. -a slightly concave terrain

@@mhplayerYou can pen T32 Ufp in the MG port but you need to aim to do that while T32... Well as it was said before, he really needs to try his best to not OS you cuz IS2 armor is a thing.

@@mhplayerman that sounds like a great line up. after you get CAS MG'd to death in your 2s1 and 2s3, you can get bombed in your is2. war thunder gaming is so pog

@@sneakycactus8815 that's why you have the praga... To also get strafed immediatly after getting out of spawn xd i also keep a T-34 for mobility and honestly it's quite fun to use so i bring it up to 6.3

That is still at 5.3 and its effectively the same as the 6.3 Is-2

​@@saltzkruber732 well, the early is-2 has a weaker front lower chasis, basicly almost anything can pen it frontally, the is-2 1944 has a stronger frontal lower chasis that legit only get to pen barely with a 88 or heat and/or apds shells xD

Gaijin was not, in fact, pulling his leg.

@@Michael-uc2pn gyat?

BINGO!

Spookstin GYATT confirmed?

jeez louise

I used to shoot to the back of this tank's turret with M109A1 and it received NO DAMAGE, then it oneshoted me. Respawned with M41A1 and returned, load APDS to it and the shell CANNOT PENETRATE it, then it hit 1 pixel of the commander's hatch and ammo racked me.

I don't have it until next week

@@Spookston I may be stupid

​@FatherGrigori it was delayed

either way I hope it goes well man

What are you having surgery on

Already did

Russian bias is literally volumetrics being so poorly implemented lol cuz ill have you know I've non penned 9mm plates with a 300mm apfsds shell, perhaps a skill issue? oddbawz caught a moment like that with the obj 292 as well nothing is immune to bias in this broken game

>Putting a microscope on something to deny the bigger issue LMFAO, WT players and their battered wife syndrome.

@@Someone-zh1tz Its mostly just wonky physics and bugs, i non penned american t34 to the side flat no angle with IS2 1944 TWICE last 4 days. The entire belief in soviet bias is hilarious to me considering relevant branches to grind in soviet tech tree are one of the last to get HEAT, nvd, stabs and smoke. Giving basically most of their enemies in their br an advantage over them. Yea we gotta stay historical but lets not pretend theres vehicles that were never even produced but planned in the game.

I find the argument of Soviet bias very funny, we get some of the worst tanks and people say it's op​@@damnsonwheredyoufindthis.3830

Sure it has some power , but it can't be more energy than the IS2 itself has to withstand . The recoil has the same power as the shell , simple law of physics . Some things like muzzle brake lowers it , but a huge amount of energy stays .

@@5co756 I don't disagree, just wanted to point out, I believe the IS-2 has 2 short recoil stabilizers on top of the breech as well as the weight of the gun/breech itself and the side/rear diverting muzzle break. Unless the energy required to propel the shell is greater than the weight of the barrel/strength of the breech internals it shouldn't be a problem to be launching rounds down range *I should also mention that the IS-2 (along with alot of guns/cannons/tanks) don't necessarily have to withstand the force of the impact, just the force required to bring a much smaller, lighter object to a relatively high speed given the explosion of the propellant. Which has somewhere to go besides being completely contained, it will push the shell down the barrel with the expanding gases from the propellant ignition and once it exits the muzzle, the gases will be diverted along with a majority of that force. Though the cannon *does* need to withstand the peaks of pressure created by this interaction

@@richardzehe1552 The force or energy is the same , imagine accelerating a 25kg shell at 800m/s in milliseconds . This is Newtons third law , you can't trick that . 😅 It's not like you shoot a 25kg shell out of the barrel and on impact it hits the tank with a pick up truck at 800m/s . That's like if somebody gets hit with a shotgun in movies and flys 5m back , the shooter would also fly 5m back .

@@5co756 Not to make this comment thread anymore unbearably long but bear with me. I did specifically avoid saying a vehicle "moving at 800m/s", which seems to be the misinterpretation/miswording here that I've caused, to clarify no, I do not think another tank being hit by a 25kg shell moving 800m/s is the same as a vehicle moving at 800m/s. It would be roughly the same amount of force as being hit by a 3500lb vehicle (roughly a family sedan) moving at 96.1m/s (215mph) If that helps to clarify. I Wasn't sure what common place item many people, who aren't very involved in learning about force delivered to a target vs. Projectile Energy would find commonplace. A better comparison would be to state that a 5.56x45mm FMJ (55grains) produces about 1,294 ft/lbs of muzzle *energy* HOWEVER it would only exert a maximum of 0.79 lbf *against a target at a range of 1km.* I did notice however that I used ft/lbs in place of lbf in some places and will correct that in previous comments as they are separate measurements with different purposes. I should also point out that recoil felt for the IS-2 and its crew is not the same as being hit by the projectile; energy dispersion time differences, vehicle weight, cannon component strengths etc. the recoil from the gun of the IS-2 is dispersed over a longer period of time than say the Impact of the shell on target. 1-2 seconds of energy dispersion vs. milliseconds for the impact of the projectile. Another reason why cannons have very large heavy components and are usually found on even heavier vehicles along with having recoil dampening systems in place. For the same reasons that when you shoot a rifle, the rifle doesn't recoil hard enough to go through your shoulder the same as the bullet would, that along with the width, height, etc. of the buttstock against your shoulder and the overall firearms weight. M56 is another good example, 90mm shell but it kicks the front end of the vehicle up to a foot or more off of the ground when it fires; the vehicle is not heavy enough to mitigate the recoil effectively but the breach and barrel are strong enough to withstand the blast inside moving the shell. Not so much a trick of newtons law but you are giving that force a place to go with the equal and opposite force exerted within the cannon. This is also what keeps a cannon from say, ripping the turret off the tank that is firing it, recoil absorption and mitigation along with lots of meticulous vehicle design. I appreciate the respectful way you went about having this discussion and I apologize for how long this all ended up being, I definitely could have worded several things better 😅 anyways, cheers

It be like that, its gun is still great for the br besides the occasional bs where it crumples against armor a 122mm probably shouldn't. Its armor seems very unreliable tho and the tall siluette that im glad IS 3 seems to fix. Sometimes the armor works wonders, sometimes it can't stop a fart downwind. Ik it has weak spots like any tank but wiggle em or nah the enemies tend to land their shots even over great distances. Best method this far seems sidescraping while hiding the front behind a big rock or building tho, unless they got heat.

You might enjoy dollar plays as well.

The amx is French so they were busy protesting while designing the tank suspension

amx m4 is so good now since it got its shell buffed

@@dinochookproductions5190 I agree, I have a k/d of almost 3 with it, which is by far my highest of all the vehicles I regularly use. I still get jealous and salty when I get nuked with a poorly aimed aphe round though

And captured U.S vehicles, but every component starts at a dark orange.

​@@lukevelderman4040outdated soviet shit aswell (sometimes)

😂😂😂 Y did this make me wheeze. Bro had me on life support

Afghan tech tree that consists of a t55, bmp1, btr70 and trucks with guns and ofc a mig21 and also it will be a subtree in the israeli one with some other arab stuff

Imagine how many captured american premiums they can sell.

Honestly the only reason the IS2 is still viable at 6.7 is either reverse driving IS2s and also BS Volumetric armor. The amount of times I've bounced IS2 mantlets/turret fronts in 76mm/90mm/88mms drives me insane...

I used to love it too had a lot of fun with it. Even with volumetric it used to do fine. I lost the faith in it when it non penned panther turret from front (i know it can go through panther front plate) but still. Gaijin has nerfed the 122 in few recent updates, sometimes it just non pens, bounces or does nothing. Pair that with the horrible reload speed it does not feel worth it. At least is3 has armor benefit, is2's whole huge lower front plate is a weak spot.

just dozer blade whole game

What a pointless mechanic!!!

it was worth the wait with regular is2, but since is2 1944 can already have difficulties penning targets in uptier the 20 seconds really becomes a pain. Can't imagine how unreliable that gun becomes with is3 and above. I mean yeah aiming has a lot to do with it, but in some situations you gotta be quick on your feet and risk it or die, if you miss the weak spot big deal take cover and try again right? well with other tanks anyway, with IS tanks if you miss a weak spot and non pen, you either A: lose 20% of your sanity from wasting a chance and having to wait humiliating 20 seconds, or B: they know you have a long reload and will just rush you. If i need to aim for tiny weakspots like anyone else but have twice the reload i don't think its a good tradeoff to have big boom anymore. It was fair for when you can almost pen enemies anywhere to kinda balance it out. Moment of silence to kv2 users tho who almost have double the reload, would honestly leave the match if i missed with that

It's better to over shoot then under shoot, as if you overshoot while aiming at the hull, you may hit the head, if you undershoot, you hit the ground

Tbh it looks better then the 1943 one

Even more with the net modification

​@@nijivlchicken coop

It’s basically a light tank turret on a heavy tank chassis with a massive chin, and somehow the tracks seem too small for it. (Appearance wise)

Average Soviet design philosophy shitting up the irl vehicle moment.

Loved the metalic sound, why Gaijin changed it?

@@ousou78 everytime i heard the 122mm i thought to myself "thy end is now"

He'll get a nuke and gaijin will use that as evidence to move the char to 11.7

​@@russman3787 Or increase the repair costs for France.

@@shahramtondkarmobarakie1824 the is-2 1944 is just ridiculous too

@@JimmySaulGoodmanMcGill1960 in what way? armor=no speed=no firepower=ehh reload=NO 50cal that destroys planes=YES

@@Sigurdur_the_bumbling_idiot ridiculously bad I meant

@@JimmySaulGoodmanMcGill1960 fair enough Saul Goodman

me being a lvl 20 player playing agains the US in 6.7 looking at range ''is that a M62, M62E1, a T26E1-1, a T26E5 or one of the heavy tanks?''

Just play the normal Cent. Mark 3, it has an overall worse lineup and Shell Shatters more often because gaijin hates NATO tanks (except Israel/sweden)

@@gamergumilyov8579 oh. Ok, i'm just doing sweedish tech tree, that's why.

@@fabianj.5128 everyone knows playing UK means that you hate yourself and as a UK main i agree using solid shot is handicapping yourself when a tank with less pen can one shot the same shot

A Shilka with SAMs & some better equipment, yes please. (No, I'm not a Soviet Bias supporter.)

@@liladoodle Meanwhile, the US tree with years standing gaping holes in its anti air lineup, and age old arbitrary nerfs still applied.

yeah... against Tiger 2's with a better gun/pen/reload rate and better armor, really fun :D

Is it really though? The IS-2 has a lot more weak spots and the lacks the fast (comparatively) reload of the Tiger II, so it can't capitalize on downtiers nearly as well.

@@russman3787 I don't mean they are the same. They're actually quite different despite being "heavy tanks". But both are hard to kill in a down tier and kill almost anything they face in one shot. What the IS-2 lacks in reload speed it makes up in size, the much smaller profile makes it easier to hide and take cover. The armour protection is less on paper but it's stalinium with weird angles that magically bounces shots, so who knows. I do think the Tiger II is a better tank in the game tho, if you play it right.

what

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Whar?

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​@@kiel_3222 huh

youch!

YEWOCCCHHHH!!!!

i literally cannot see anything op about either of these,even at their previous br,nothing close to OP