I bet all 7 naval players appreciate being included

Just gonna say off the bat, I think Rank 2 ground is best, fun but not super sealclubby, encounter some great vehicles, but not limited to T34s shermans, yet.

While I understand that Naval isn´t widely played anyway, I'd have liked to see Rank I Coastal in a seperate tier from Rank I Bluewater. It's a completely different feel, to zip around in tiny speedboats. Especially when there's no big destroyer looming on the horizon, ready to one-tap you out of existance from a range you can't even fire at. That said, great video. Thanks for putting in the effort to aid newer players in finding their footing.

Rank III, IV and maybe some at rank V like IS-3, M103, T-44-100 are the best rank for Ground. Tanks at that BR have unique identity and play style. But at Rank VI and VII, all of them are like "wow, fast moving box with stabilizer and high pen APFSDS and laser range finder, hit this rank finder button and click mouse"

Despite playing since release, I spend 90% of my time in 2.3/3.0 matches. I always wanted Operation Barbarossa era combat anyway

My favourite is Rank 2 ground, its like rank 1 but has more strategy in it, rank 1 is all over the place while rank 2 is a bit more strategic and tactical in its approach while still being fast paced and fun.

Rank 2 and 3. Your crew can repair during the night for the following day. The higher ranks it seems that repair skills of the crews don't matter because it still takes days or weeks

Rank v is kinda chaotic for me since i just keep getting uptiered and face tanks with stabilizer, era, apfsds, and some with thermals in my former 7.3 soviet lineup now become 8.0 lineup. Every time i get a downtier i always consider it as an miracle 😂

Rank V in the T-54 is just pure pain right now. Gaijin thought removing a second off its reload time would make up against ERA, Stabilizers, APFSDS and at some moments, even Thermals. Its just pure absolute pain. Fought an XM1 in it once, felt like throwing sticks at an extremely mobile house. All I could do was cower as it did circles around me with a turret turn thrice as fast as mine. It also didn't need to stop to shoot me.

I really like rank 6-7 air very much because it is a mix of missile and gunfighting, but for ground I think rank 2 is the best as it has iconic vehicles which are also fun to play and you don't have to worry about sl or grinding so much, rank 3 is a transitioning to rank 4 and 5 which start to be less fun for ground.

Nice video! Would be nice to see a breakdown of which nations are strongest at different BRs and go through some lineups for them etc.

As far as Ground goes BR 10.3 is where its at. There's no point moving on after it, because BR 11.7 battle results depend on which team can deploy the most top tier MBTs. Most people either have only 1 suplemented by lower tiers, or don't have the SL to buy/take out others. BR 10.3 is far more balanced, vehicle loadout selection is a lot bigger, it is cheaper to deploy tanks. So games last a longer because people usually actually try to win. Unless we are speaking about 10.3 games where teams are 90% made up of premiums, then they leave after 1 death no matter what. Another brilliant idea to release top tier premium by Gaijin.

As a naval main who does play other modes, (hypothesizing that the bots don’t exist) I’m gonna put rank 1 naval at C tier, rank 2, 4 and 5 naval at B tier, rank 3 naval at A tier, and rank 5 naval in naval EC at S tier. With the air and ground tiers being more or less the same as you. Naval is just way too underrated imo. Most people judge it without learning about it seriously. And Helena is rank 4 btw. And most 6.0s as well as every single capital ship is at rank 5. Also you shouldn’t have more than one damage control process active at one time in naval, like you’re doing at 9:50. It really slows down all the processes. And finally, rank 5 naval repair costs did go down a lot and the SL multipliers went up a lot as well after the last economy patch, so that might not be as much of an issue these days, you should really try playing it again.

10.3-11.3 Air RB is a LOT of fun. Plenty of great and interesting planes like the F-8E, F-5E, MiG-21s, MiG-23s, J-7E, Mirages, Drakens, and you have your Phantoms. It's a really diverse BR to play at, and you don't suffer the constant RWR ping and BVR missiles of top tier-so you can actually play at a decent altitude.

Setting up this type of tier list is very difficult, but I honestly think this is an accurate ranking. My only notable specific deviation would be 6.3 USSR groundRB, which is S tier for me.

BVR isn't a problem in top tier air because everyone has sort of figured out at this point that to survive BVR you have to hug the ground, and this causes all current radar missiles to faceplant. The meta is to ground hug and just dogfight anyway and I think it's a lot of fun because it's extremely fast paced and you have some seriously near-modern aircraft in play. I rarely see people getting knocked out by Phoenixes or AIM-7s or the like

My personal favorite ground is rank 6, so many unique vehicles that are super fun to play, and most nations don’t suffer from a lack of support options there. Low tier ground and air are also enjoyable. I will say RB top tier is terrible, but Sim top tier is actually enjoyable, the maps are big enough to facilitate movement from MBTs while the gun handling and laser rangefinders make it not feel like a chore to fight.

For me specifically, the Tiger 2s are the best. You can 1 tap almost everything and you can easily bounce almost everything.

Rank 3 and Rank 4 for ground. I personally like jet combat without extremely strong missiles so 7.3-9.3 are my favorites for air rb. Fast paced and dynamic combat.

i had 2200 games on the horton 229 on my old acc (hacked) and 230 on me 163 B , these are my faves and i love this battle rank im currently lvl up a new acc that is hopefully secure enough to get my babys back if it comes to tanks i love the brummbär and the rank around it is fine too

3.7-5.3 is the sweet spot for me, both in ground and air RB.

I only play sim modes air and ground and I couldn't agree more. Except practicly no experience in naval modes but I'd take your word. You're great dude! Love it rock on!

I agree with your rankings on ground aside from rank 7, as I have not played 7 yet. Rank 3 and even some of rank 4 is some of the most fun I have had in War Thunder.

Caught a new Video!!! Love your content.

love u tankenstein! ur vids entertained me for a long time now

I love 6.7 for some reason. I run a Tiger II (P). The one step forward two steps back is so apparent that it forces you to use the tank the way it was meant to be used and take calculated risks without being cheese.

At 7:05 you said "identiddy", it made me laugh for 10 minutes straight and left me in tears, cheers for making my day man

Rank IV became SIGNIFICANTLY more fun with the recent BR changes.

5.3 and lower are fun sometimes higher can be kinda fun (for ground) here lately air rb at any br just feels meh

Germany at 3.7 is the most fun imo. you get Dicker max excellent zoom and pen. Panzer 4h, wirblewind, and bv-155 for air. great tank great tank destroyer great anti air and amazing plane.

Thanks for the list. My preferred ranks for aviation are 4 and 5. P-51H and F-86A-5 are my favourite machines.

My favourite rank is Rank3, playing the classic WW2 vehicles. Stuff like the M4A2, the Sherman Firefly, the Churchill Mk7 Crocodile.

I’ve enjoyed low tier 1-3 RB air and ground. I love the early/mid WWII vehicles and all my buddies enjoy these the most!

I gotta agree when it comes to rank 6 air. I love the "intermediate" jets that arent too fast and the missiles are primitive. Every plane is miles different.

I must approve, rank 3 Air RB and Ground RB is where the game shines the most. The experience in air has been essentially unchanged since 2012 (or 2014 for ground) and that's a good thing. I hate that the garbage which pollutes high tiers is slowly creeping its way into lower tiers though. They really have to put a stricter separation between WW2 and postwar vehicles, some people just want to be immersed in the WW2 environment without post-war light cars, SPAA and now artillery vehicles roaming around...

I gotta say rank IV is my favourite, because around 6.0 br you're not getting constant upteirs, and because early jets have poor acceleration and low speed maneuverability, unless they play smart (which they rarely do) you can hold your own against them in a superprop. Everyone loves to hate on Ju-288s, but honestly they're free kills, especially if u have an airspawn, they're always afk 😭.

For my top tank it’s the Tiger E. Great armor (when angled), and great gun, and for air battles it’s the German MiG-21MF. I had a surprisingly great time spading the aircraft and had fun with it.

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rank 4 in groudn rb is straight up painful and something I wish I'd never have to go through again, as a ussr player you always get matched against germany, and at this br against germany when the best gun you have is 85mm, i'ts pure pain, it would've deserved the C

Air ab up to 5.0 is so fun. But once everyone has 20mm cannons you just get shredded right away, and because of respawns there's always someone on your 6

Couldn't agree more me with the rank 8 air! Sooo true!!!

Personaly Rank 3 ground can either be a dream or a nightmare depending on who you are paired with and the map. Also the introduction of the IS series is in rank 3 and the IS series is a nightmare to fight.

I am a top tier enjoyer. Rank 6 and 7 ground and air are the most fun. You get fast vehicles and such, really enjoyable for me

The Ju-288C makes rank 4 Air RB unplayable. With entire teams dominated by that thing, the individual games are incredibly unfun

1:16 thats exactly what makes it fun imo the fact that everything is weaker means battle go for longer and bombers can actually survive @tankestein.

Imo ground around 3rd rank is the most fun. Most diverse, many historical tanks, not so sluggish like 1rank and not as easy as rank 6. Rank 5 is also fun, cold war vehicles are very diverse. On rank 7 Ground there are only 3 types if vehicles: russian tank, NATO tank and CAS. Any tank of the same type plays exactly the same. But it doesn't matter really, as most of the time you get sniped by heli 10kilometers away right as you spawn.

Rank 6 ground is a very weird spot. You say there’s an issue with some tanks getting thermals, I say there’s a major issue when wheeled vehicles start overpowering tanks by getting to major spots that catch you off guard. Now that isn’t such a problem sometimes but what is, is that this is we’re composite armor starts showing up and where leopard 1s will have to take on abrams or amx-32s taking on t-72. It’s still fun but it’s an extreme challenge for some nations

I've always loved rank 5 ground coming from an American main 6.3-7.3 is the most fun I've had playing

As someone who strictly played rank 7 tank RB for 2 years , i have to agree with u. The maps are way to easy to spawn trap when everyone has LRF, 500mm apfsds, gen2/3 thermals. The 1 live leavers also ruined it for me . before i made the switch back to rank4 and 5 rb i remember CAS becoming a headache at top br

Coastal is weird, it in such a concentrated br range but the price and research coat just skyrockets, I think it could be fun it was just fast to grind though so you have rat going around cause mayhem

As someone who's been playing USA coastal, it's actually surprisingly fun if dont require non-stop constant action. Altho the german ships are so over powerd.

This def feels like a tier list from someone who has been playing the game for forever. The lower ranks are definitely fun coming back to but starting out since you just aren’t as skilled it can be very frustrating.

to me rank 5 ground is the worst because of something called "up tier" where your 122mm APHE cant pen lots of things and while one HEAT take you out. for higher ground br its nightmare when you by a new tank (stock) but after some suffering it become easier but yet planes and helies spamming ruin every thing. using non-WW2 tanks in WW2 tanks br also ruin the play.

I agree with most of the sentiments expressed in this video-though I would probably put rank VII ground and rank VIII air up to A tier, move rank IV naval, rank I ground, and rank V air down to C tier

5,3 BR in both air and ground used to be my fav until they made 1.7 uptiers a thing

German Br 6-9 can get rough if uptiered, its nice though that those guns on the big german tanks can compete with cold war tanks, but its a pain when you Maus gets one shot by a small scout tank with a chemical round

My favorite ship is WoWS ever is tier´s 7 Pepsicola because you deleted cruisers. And in WoWS deleting from 20-30k health to none does not happen so often. But I found the same feeling in WT first ranks in tanks. I would say that you get deleted in WT lower ranks as easily as playing Koenigsberg and Nurnberg in WoWS. Cruisers life!

i like 5.7 to 7.7 ground since i’m a heavy tank enjoyer but like top tier jets since those are my favorite kind of planes

I would say 1-3 brs bellow top tier is best cause u get a high SL/RP multiplier and I enjoy it the most(fast planes and tanks)

Rank VI air is the least fun for me as many planes there don’t have missiles or flares at a highly compressed br, but this problem got a little better with the new br changes.

As one of the whole 7 naval players i can confirm that middle rank is best fun. 4.0 to 5.0 is the sweet spot. And yes you can meet bots, but those are just easy kill, easy to identify and report. Also one match can give around 100k sl which is my way to go whenever i need some SL. Give it a go, try soviet SKR1 and SKR7, or USA Porter and Alaska.

I can agree with the Rank V ground cus am playing as Germany and i barely get any kills

In Britain anything from the Cromwell to earlier then the cent 3 excluding some awesome vehicles (firefly and concept 3) was the most pain non pen insta killed bs I’ve ever had in the game but anything before is fun because low tier just is most the time, and when I got my Enland 90 I became Lego super man “I just died in your arms tonight” meme oh my god that and the cent 3 was moreeeee then enough to easily progress, already got an 8.0 and a half another 8.0 that I’m working on now so much easier to progress

I got 3.5 vehicles that make up the most fun for me sdkfz234/4, breda and mig21mf (also somewhat bf109g6), i got mig 29(german one) wich is fun to fly but a pain to fight with. Sturmtiger is fun quite often but a bit hard to fight at it's br facing off against T-80s/T-90s, abrams sep and so many other top tier vehicles that can laser rangefind you across the map with thermal assist, but it is fun getting 30k each kill. Bt5/7 would be fun too if they where just a tiny bit faster. Maus still having to endure beeing at a slightly too high br.

You should do this but with individual nations

The best part of rank 5 naval if the long slugfest

Rank 3-4 japanese air rb kinda sucks because all the planes are over tiered, but it really starts to show

I think an interesting variation you could have done is segment gamemodes (arb rank I would be lower than aab rank I)

I usually prefer arcarde air at 4.0 and 1.0 (although even limiting myself to 1.0 gets a bit unfair due to skilled crews) plus rb ground at 4.0.

honestly i think its pretty impossible to do ranks individually, youd have to rank them based off of nations too coz certain nations suck at different BR's

Rank 6 aircraft can be a horrible experience imo, I have the f104j still stock because it's flight model is so painful and it is good at high altitude but you don't have flares and at low altitude the T2 is much better to fly and get gun kills with, I only really use the 10g missiles to make my opponents turn so they can't run away

Rank 8 planes is fun sometimes apart now that the event is active

Could you do a how to play the tornado ids in the German tree ( the one from the marketplace/event)

In all honesty, I'd say this is pretty accurate for myself. Although I don't like when air starts turning into jets. Being that my highest tier aircraft is the A4E (Israel) I find it extremely jarring. Ground... I'm hit and miss with high tier. Sometimes I love it, sometimes I don't. Playing the Merkava's is awesome, the M1A1 AIM can be a fun tank depending on the matchmaking, high tier Russia just seems talentless. My BMP2M, 2S38 and KA50 alone just dominate everything. My favorite tiers to play in grb have to be around 4.3/5.0 and in air... My Israel spitfire and sakeen are just great fun to play and even from time to time I go back to 1.0/2.0 arb fun the amusement of having weak planes all round and I can do fun maneuvers without my wings tearing off because the planes just simply won't go fast enough. As for ships... Haven't played them so I can't comment but playing in the subs was great fun

I enjoy Rank IV Ground the most. As for the one I least enjoy, is Rank VI Ground.

I enjoy 4.7 to 6.7 br but I find myself playing rank 6 to 8 more often due to how much I have left to grind. I always hover back to 6.7 germany though.

rank 6 air RB has felt awful for me. it's definitely due to my choice of nation to play but without access to supersonic aircraft you are just a RP/SL pinata for anyone else to come and pop whenever they want. you'll die 60 seconds into the match at worst, and at best you stick a missile or manage to drop some bombs and then get popped on the RTB. maybe i just suck

"they all have their own identity" while rolling around in an ersatz M10 lol

I agree with top tier jets and the missile problem. They need to give us more game modes. That’s the real issue. Why can’t I choose if I want a 6v6 or 12v12.

How rare is that tank u used while talking about rank III.? I have seen it only once in my battle, now is the second time. (In almost 2k hours)

Rank 2 and 3 ground rb is some of the most fun I have in this entire game, but as I am still grinding my first nation of USSR, I feel like I gotta try and get to top tier. Currently I am at rank 5 in ground rb as USSR and holy hell, it sucks complete and utter ass.

Maybe it's worth to make an Update of this List in 2024 because it seems that it has some different direction and dynamics lately when it comes to playerbase.

I would love rank 8 bvr but there are so many players on each team it becomes impossible to fight someone

Personally I love Rank 8 air because Tomcat... But I can see why it is disliked, other than the radar missiles, they are easy to dodge just fly low.

I personally would put Rank 1 air into S tier, because Arcade is just an absolute Biplane clusterf*ck and it’s great

I’d just want to mention something about naval. I’d love to play it more if it was more refined. I stopped because I play tier 2-3. However I only ever get uptiers in rank 3. Then I’m facing against battleships and other huge, heavy armor, big gun ships. My rank two USS Fletcher and USS Porter stand zero chance at their current standing. The br’s are pretty much broken. Unless you buy a top tier premium bluewater ship forget playing naval. You basically die at range and can’t do much in retaliation.

I’ve had 11 BR 9.0 + today and all of them were fast spawn rush/spawn camp wins and losses it’s not fun and a shame after so long to get there.

I feel they really just need to do away with up BR and down BR theres enough to just play at your BR.. I'd wait up to 5mins to get in a match at my BR only.

I wish naval had a more generous rp gain. Because it takes absolutely forever to get stuff, even worse than ground. And adding to that it takes forever to find a game. There should be the possibility to play against bots tbh.

“Rank one planes don’t have enough firepower” Yak-2 KABB wants to know your location

Me personally 3.3 to 5.7 in ground RB 3.3 for air AB

70% of playerbase is BR7 or under for a reason, which is why it frustrates me when you get streams of 'changes/additions' in the bracket above this, instead of fixing the abysmal Ground and Naval map lineup. It's for wallet warriors, not for the players. Rank 1-2 ground is best by far. AB is hectic chaos and RB is insane too. Low rank coastal is amazing and far better than bluewater, the maps with lots of tiny islands are a blast. Coastal AB is where it's at, there are much more players. RB is so similar just without the markers.

Personally I love the Bf-110 that has 4 20mm gun pods in the start of rank 3

I mostly agree with this list. I would place rank 5 a little higher though.

Rank 7 ground RB sucks simply because it’s a playground for Russian players to use 21st century vehicles like the T-80BVM which was adopted in *2017* while other major countries like the U.S. are stuck with tanks like the M1A2 SEP which was adopted in *1999*. It gets even worse when you factor in Gaijin adding things like the pantsir into the game to ensure other countries can’t even dream of at least having an advantage in the air

What panzer 3 M is that without the side skirts?

The char 2C and T35 make low br rb fun

i just got to rank 6 air and its actually like playing a different game

naval rank 1 is a tier for me, the vehiicles are not good, you dont have a choice on what vehicle gamestyle u get but the battles with their weapons are pure fun to me

how did you put the balkenkreuz on a T 70 ?