Yes. Printing existed at the time. But it was a tedious task to engrave the plate for one page. Movable type made it easier and faster.

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Yes the history of papyrus is fascinating. Unfortunately as a plant today it’s loosing habitat.

I get your point, but at the other half of your comment you literally described the argument why the printing machine was milion times better than papyrus.

@@SiskoSvK The printing press would have had no value if it hadn't been for papyrus because prior to papyrus, books were made from animal hides. Thousands (millions perhaps) of books were written on papyrus before the printing press was invented. Paper itself transformed the world. It enabled the transfer of knowledge that brought humanity out of the Dark Ages. The printing press certainly increased the spread of knowledge greatly by making books available to the masses. I would never belittle its importance. I believe technology will one day fail us. Perhaps the printing press will again be the device that saves humanity.

*On the other hand* The thing about painting stuff up on Cave walls is YOU KNOW WHERE YOU LEFT IT In short, Cave painting WORKS Would anyone care for another Aurox?

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What did you question regarding Gutenberg?

@@sterling557 Why he was rubbish at grasping the contractual terms of loan sharks

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Kind of peripheral (in more ways than one) But the still vibrant yet delicate colours of the beautiful illumiations were the real stand out aesthetic to me Engage 'Dog in manger mode' ..... Mind you, the pigments they used were often horribly toxic 🙄

Huntington Library in Pasadena California has a complete copy if you find yourself in the neighborhood.

That wouldn't have been highly portable given the HUGE numbers of characters they'd have needed Impressive achievement though

@@babboon5764 Indeed, the Chinese did not make much use of it, but it did lead to the development of the modern Korean system of writing, which was specifically developed to take advantage of moveable type.

As long as they could read Latin, which learned people could I believe. But maybe not common people.

Were indulgences printed by Gutenberg worth as many years off Purgatory as compared to indulgences written out by hand?

The immediate value of the bible is limited, unless you have christian fundamentalism in the agenda, or are interested in older polytheism and historical god of the day fashion and plain fan fiction

Until Chinese scammers started copying them & passing them off as the real thing?

Fry said that the one he was looking at was cow skin (vellum), and there were 12 copies made on vellum with the other hundred on paper.

I had read that it was due to the lack of sources during that period, but it seems to me that it was for an earlier part of the Middle Ages.

Nobody said this was the "dark ages" time. Also there was no debunking of the dark ages.

Then he went DOWN the Rhine travelling upstream North is up, South is Down Its only the Home Counties lot who think its 'Up to London' from every direction

The Silk Road existed and had been in place all the way back, some Anthropologists say to Homo Erectus in some cases. O.o; They found African stone tools in Asia and you have Denisovans, too. Homo Erectus had rafts! Those aren't even your modern humans--and you somehow think that Europeans couldn't do the same? Europe doesn't have a magical force field around it. Things like soccer, golf, business cards, reinforced paper, etc traveled as both ideas and objects along the Silk Road, which extended all the way to the Britons, into Africa and into East Asia. The Islamic empire also collected information as well by travelling along such routes, not to mention you have the freaking Mongols! (Who, BTW, gave Russia and Korea the idea of distillation from Iran.) And what happened the the Rromani in your imagination? They came from Western India to Europe. Europeans didn't invent traveling either. There were Phonecians with boats. And look up Polynesians and traveling by boat and be floored. They made it all the way to the Americas before any Europeans and then brought back sweet potatoes. Haha. My (white) Anthropology prof was making fun of European sailing habits compared to Polynesians who mastered figuring out ocean currents sometimes simply by sticking their hands in the water and then memorizing maps they were given as children. (Some New Zealanders also have tattoos as reminders.) Europe was slow to travel, but that doesn't mean things didn't go to them. And Marco Polo even traveled by foot/ horse. There's records that a Persian Queen might have been Korean too. Trade has always been defacto. It's just the amount of time, danger, and determination one has to get there that's changed. "Age of Discovery" is a damned lie.

" Credit where credits due" A little insensitive perhaps as *that - and foreclosure - was the pivot which lost Guttenberg his press*

why is Gutenberg credited, then? Also, it's possible for a thing to be invented twice, independently.

​@@naikrovekEast and West developed independently. Gutenberg made movable type printing popular, something that China had not managed to do. And he had the genius to make this type of printing economically viable, something the Chinese had also not done.

I edited Gutenberg's Wikipedia page and they kept removing his true invention over and over. What's so shameful about the adjustable type mould? They won't give credit to Uighurs or Chinese or Koreans. BTW, I posted the dates and locations to correct Stephen Fry with names. The guy that imported the invention, doesn't mean he invented it. It's like the BS with Copernicus, etc when the best they did was translate and verify Islamic texts.

@@naikrovek Racism

​@@kimyoonmisurnamefirst7061The theory of heliocentrism dates back to the Greeks, not the Muslims. Not to mention the fact that Muslim scholars are not the only ones to have thought about this since that period. Nevertheless, we should thank the Arabs for having brought Indian numerals to Europe (which, in fact, dated from much earlier!).

Brilliant Question Slightly muddled answer ..... PROBABLY the guys around a few hundred BC who give the Asyrians a kicking and took over their rule of the Euprates based empire. They were using a systems based on the common root language of most of the people subjugated by the Asyrians which was word based (like written English) Prior to that the Asyrians & Babylonians were using Cunniform stuff .......... which I THINK were more like pictographic characters which could be combined (rather like modern German does sometimes lumping strings of words into one new, long name)

@@babboon5764 , I use a backpack and as use to say it is the best invention of mankind AFTER Fire the wheel the alphabet and cable tv. It leaves the hands for other things, like carrying plastic bags...

@@tombrunila2695 Why would you need plastic bags when you have rucksack? (Unless you won two Goldfish at the fun fair)

Yes, but Late Medieval and Early Modern overlap in the 16th century. No specific date ends one and starts the other. Basically, the Ren actually occurs _inside_ of the Middle Ages and was concentrated into an area.

@danytalloen: the Middle Ages as a periodisation of pan-European cultural history is usually said to begin in AD 500 and end in AD 1500. In some parts of Europe, the Renaissance began towards the end of this period, in others it began later. In Scandinavia, the first few centuries of the Middle Ages are usually referred to as the Late Iron Age, whereas a case can be made for saying that the Middle Ages in parts of Southern Europe began sooner after the breakdown of the Roman empire. Hard and fast limits are really just a convenience

Indeed their most important invention could have been the agricultural revolution. Instead, it's something invented at its end, and used and abused in later periods. They developed ("Galilean" aka "Newtonian") relativity around 1420, think of that

Without reading and the spread of ideas, very little at all could exist, much less spread, in terms of human rights.

Human rights were far more prevalent pre-civiliasation than after + What we now think of as Human Rights really only began to be considered in the 18th century with a whole debate about 'Noble Savages' ............. Which still runs on to this day 'Are Humans natually hierachical or egalitarian' etc ......... Turns out the evidence is its a VERY mixed picture Most folk belong in one or other camp & seem surprised both seem to hold true

A claim like that should be supported with names, dates, links... I meen, stamps are not considdered a printing press.

But this is a documentary about an invention of the Middle Ages, which is a term used to describe a period in European history. So thanks for playing. Off you go.

But it wasn't in Europe at that time so yes he invented his version things were more isolated

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But the famous one is Gutenberg?

So? It never made it to Europe. More than one person can think up similar solutions to a problem. We've done it for a lot of things.

Maybe because it' was the very first prototype and stuff evolves..? At least we got you now these days, mankind is blessed.

They didn't have IP property rights or Copyright in those days HE knew how to build 'em So WHY do you suppose he'd gift away his competitive advantage?

He might have just been a Lousy contract comprehender?

OFFICIALLY everyone was a Christian *Even the ones who had worked out it was a crock of implausable etc* Otherwise they were a soon to be dead 'Heretic' Even being the wrong SORT of Christian was a dangerous prospect Now Your point was what exactly?

Seriously? Are you obtuse?😊

"i can't even write Gutenberg but trust me bro! I know this histeria stuff supercrazy much!"

Printing is not the same as writing. You shouldn't be sharing your thoughts.

OR in counterpoint ............. Guttenbergs press wouldn't have been invented when it was & possibly ever because it was the concentartion of wealth in few hands which enabled it to be funded. And who knows. Had there been no famines etc since 1804 our number would have increased to the point we were virtually standing n each others shoulders until some maltheusian catastropy knocked us back to 1004 population levels. BTW - That's the *optimistic* scenario - we might have been wiped out entirely! Cheer up *We still COULD BE* 🙄

Maybe the same reason English, French, and Spanish are spoken in North and South America: colonialism

Exactly. Thank you finally somebody said it

Maybe it's also way easier to use about 100 Symbols than 200 billion but hey...

@@Flaschenteufel ...cause colonialism was so much more practical than letting people be free. Gutenberg is a hero of mine and the Protestant Reformation was made possible by his innovations. But i'm not fan of white supremacy which fails to take proper account of the innovations of other peoples.

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