The Most Isolated Station in Wales - Dovey Junction

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Geoff Marshall

Geoff Marshall

Ай бұрын

It's often said that you can't exit from Dovey Junction - the most isolated station in Wales, and as I've only ever spent a few minutes there changing trains, I thought it about time to investigate fully and spend more time at Dovey, taking a ride on the Cambrian Coast line.
The 'Station House' is actually from the disused Glandyfi railway station which closed in 1965.
Have a look at the fantastic old photos on the 2D53 Website : www.2d53.co.uk/cambriancoast/...
Visit The Dyfi Osprey Project : www.dyfiospreyproject.com/

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@geofftech2
@geofftech2 Ай бұрын
With apologies for my appalling pronunciation of the the placename 'Pwllheli' !! 😁
@axqrew
@axqrew Ай бұрын
😂
@DownTheFlank
@DownTheFlank Ай бұрын
Don’t worry, mine would be a lot worse 🫣
@Itsjustesh
@Itsjustesh Ай бұрын
Don't worry about it.
@largegrainofsand
@largegrainofsand Ай бұрын
My Granddad lives there and I still don’t know how to pronounce it 😭
@el_es
@el_es Ай бұрын
Looks like polish for 'i now need a new screen mine got water logged from the tea' ;)
@andrewmerriman7133
@andrewmerriman7133 Ай бұрын
Dovey Junction had the only mechanical Signal Box in the country that worked semaphore signals in 3 different counties (Gwynedd, Dyfed and Powys). The track layout until the 15th of May 1984 had a passing loop on both the main (Aberystwyth) and Branch (Pwllheli) lines and at times you would have 4 trains there at the same time. It took 90 moves (Pulling and Putting Back) the levers to cross the 4 trains, the Main and Branch Loops were as long as their respective platform lines, at one time the two platforms were even longer going towards Machynlleth and were wooden but the wooden section was removed in the 1970's. The station house at the end is the old Glandyfi Station, great video Geoff,thank you for making it.
@geofftech2
@geofftech2 Ай бұрын
Great info andrew, thank you!
@andrewmerriman7133
@andrewmerriman7133 Ай бұрын
@@geofftech2 Your very welcome Geoff, the Main Platform was as long as it is now in the 1960's when the same moves were taking place whereby a Down Train came through the Main loop to the Aberystwyth end of the platform whilst an Up Train was at the Machynlleth end of the platform. The only difference then was that the points to the Main Loop were near Glandyfi so the Aberystwyth train had to go right up to the foot crossing to make the connection. A similar thing was done daily in the Branch (Pwllheli) Platform with the Down train going through the Branch Loop onto the Bridge and then Setting Back (Reversing) into the platform with a hand signalman protecting the rear end of the Up Train at the Machynlleth end of the Branch Platform. If you think Dovey Junction is Isolated you should see the site of the former Bala Junction Station which was even more isolated, you could not even buy a ticket to Bala Junction it was just an interchange station. I have just subscribed to your channel as I am very impressed with your video.
@alistairkewish651
@alistairkewish651 Ай бұрын
90 moves! Gosh that sounds like quite hard work.
@andrewmerriman7133
@andrewmerriman7133 Ай бұрын
@@alistairkewish651 Thank you for your reply, yes it was quite hard work, if all the trains arrived in the correct order and at the correct time it took 19 minutes to do that includes 4 tokens coming in and 4 going out. The hardest part is remembering that each lever requires a different amount of pull strength to make sure points go over correctly and you can lock them correctly and get the Signal arms to travel through 45 degrees, even the air temperature makes a difference as signal wires expand and contract with temperature changes.
@davidwright9013
@davidwright9013 Ай бұрын
Ah, Dovey Junction, many is the time I sat on the train thinking 'there really isn't anything here!' while travelling between Aberystwyth and Birmingham New Street...
@pavelpolonskij6931
@pavelpolonskij6931 Ай бұрын
Same. I was a student in Aber ('98-'01), and often wondered as to who used the station.
@mrsp3992
@mrsp3992 Ай бұрын
Or Dyfi Junction, as us locals call it........
@joshtaylor7881
@joshtaylor7881 Ай бұрын
Cheers for the video Geoff. I was a guard based at Machynlleth back in the early 2000s and worked every single one of the TfW 158s! The video brought back some great memories. I'm not sure if anyone lives in the house over the viaduct on the Pwllheli branch anymore, but certainly back in my time on the Cambrian there was and they had to get permission from the signaller to walk over the bridge. I remember picking up the person who lived in that house on Wednesdays to go to Machynlleth market. Basically they had their own private railway station!
@geofftech2
@geofftech2 Ай бұрын
hey Josh, lovely comment - thanks! i just published the Barmouth Bridge video too .. if you want more memories !!!
@mrsp3992
@mrsp3992 Ай бұрын
I believe the house is still occupied.
@riggerthegeek
@riggerthegeek Ай бұрын
You probably checked my ticket out of Aber then. Hello again
@richardmellor9625
@richardmellor9625 Ай бұрын
Ahhhh, my favourite station in Britain. I visited two years ago, and had it all to myself on a sunny day - sheer heaven. From the end of the footpath, it's about 30 mins walk up the road (in the Aber direction) to the stupendous Ynyshir RSPB reserve, which sprawls back down to the estuary and is involves sections of forest and boardwalked marshes. (There are only pavements for some of the walk along that road, but it never once felt dangerous.) The acclaimed Ynyshir restaurant is up there too - and so was my brilliant Airbnb. Happy memories :)
@barbaramcmillan3835
@barbaramcmillan3835 Ай бұрын
So you didn't see any memorial flowers along the road, in memory of those lost ? Quite common when I've been, between there and Machynlleth
@richardmellor9625
@richardmellor9625 Ай бұрын
@@barbaramcmillan3835 I did not - well, not knowingly, alas.
@finndriver1063
@finndriver1063 Ай бұрын
Honestly the bike shelter makes perfect sense to me. It just might be a mountain/gravel bike rather than a road bike.
@momatmach1
@momatmach1 Ай бұрын
As part of my job I drive up and down that path quite often, also acted as pilotman from there many times due to tidal flooding, the station house at the main road end is Glandyfi a closed station on the Aber line, the whole of Dyfi junction platform was recently raised a metre to stop some of the tidal flooding issues.
@Nooticus
@Nooticus Ай бұрын
Very interesting info thanks
@ianmcclavin
@ianmcclavin Ай бұрын
I changed trains at Dovey Junction a few years back. Coming from Pwhelli direction, I had a 5-minute connection there for a train to Aberystwyth, but the one from Pwhelli was running about 10 minutes late! Fortuneately, they held the Aberystwyth, and my sole experience of using Dovey Junction consists of a mad dash between the two platforms!
@DavidShepheard
@DavidShepheard Ай бұрын
Well done to the signaler to hold the other train back, so as to not screw over the passengers who needed to change trains. That is how the railways are supposed to be run.
@Nooticus
@Nooticus Ай бұрын
@@DavidShepheard Not quite David. In this specific case, and on other remote lines with literally one train per hour in each direction then yes, that is how they are supposed to be run. But the same is not true of highly congested mainlines which have to accomodate both fast and stopping services. If they hold a train on a mainline, it can easily create a serious cascading effect of delays that can result in delays that last for hours. In that case, it benefits more passengers in the long run to NOT hold the connecting train.
@stanley3647
@stanley3647 21 күн бұрын
10 minutes delay? Lucky one. On Pwllheli branch delays is new normal (in summer season almost no train is on time). 158's (two cars) are not fast enough to exchange plenty of passengers on station through narrow doors and gangways. We try to do this same route - our train was delayed as well, but Aberystwyth service didn't wait. So we need wait one hour to next (delayed) train. We arrived Abetyswyth more than 1 hour late than planned. Barmouth to Aberystwyth in 2 and half hour - not brilliant. I should mention: both trains was overcrowded as well?
@enricomonti156
@enricomonti156 Ай бұрын
I did this line from Shrewsbury to Aberystwyth one week ago. It was absolutely lovely. It is good that it is not completely isolated as other junction stations could be.
@garthcox4307
@garthcox4307 Ай бұрын
There were several summer Saturday Euston to Aberystwyth loco hauled services until the late 80s. They changed from electric to diesel at new st. They used pairs of 25s until 1983 or 84 then switched to 37s. There were 2 or 3 diagrams every Saturday so plenty of locos if you planned your changes right.
@davidcronan4072
@davidcronan4072 Ай бұрын
Trent Junction station in the East Midlands was another example. It was just there for people to change trains and to get something to eat. This was before catering facilities were common on trains. The station linked trains between London, Nottingham and Derby. The only link to it was a footpath from Long Eaton. There was even a row of houses provided for the staff. The station is long gone, but the houses remain. You can see them between Beeston and Long Eaton stations.
@stevegoodwin7138
@stevegoodwin7138 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the info , passed Trent many times and wondered about it’s history
@stanmarsh14
@stanmarsh14 Ай бұрын
I know of the old Trent Junction very well, along with the old Long Eaton station in the town, plus Sawley Junction, which is now the current Long Eaton station. Go down the side of United Carpets to the crossing and look left, you can still see the old platforms. The 1970's ish Trent Signal Box is still there, after signalling got switched to the new place next to London Road, Derby.
@SteveInskip
@SteveInskip Ай бұрын
@@stanmarsh14cheers Stan. That’s a great bit of info. I’ll have a stop-off at Long Eaton next time I’m passing through. Cheers bud!
@davidcronan4072
@davidcronan4072 Ай бұрын
@@stanmarsh14 You also have "sheet stores junction" there, named after the tarps used to cover the old open goods wagons. These stores were where these covers were kept and repaired if necessary.
@stanmarsh14
@stanmarsh14 Ай бұрын
@@davidcronan4072 oh yes, and a pub on High Street, called The Tappers Harker, a nod to the carriage works.
@seanquinn5634
@seanquinn5634 Ай бұрын
@6:30 I cycled there with my friend at the end of a four day bike packing trip across wales. We started from Knighton station which is pretty much on the border and cycled to Dovey Junction, nearly all off road. I am glad that we did not have the common belief that there was no access, otherwise we may not have done the trip! It was an epic bike ride i will remember it forever.
@melian2003
@melian2003 Ай бұрын
Thanks for mentioning the Dovey Osprey/Wildilfe Centre Geoff!
@homelab-student
@homelab-student Ай бұрын
Thanks for another great rural video Geoff!!
@AbsentHumans
@AbsentHumans Ай бұрын
Ah, Dovey Junction. I pass through it when travelling between university in Aberystwyth and home. Always been curious about it, so glad to see you've finally done a video on it!
@rhunl
@rhunl Ай бұрын
I used to live about four villages towards Aberystwyth from Glandyfi, and only once ever used Dyfi Junction. My aunt had tried to drop me for the train at Aberystwyth, but we missed it by about 2 minutes. Cue hectic drive back along the line and this was where a run along that path got me to my train! I swear the taka-ta-tum taka-ta-tum sound of 158s echoing over the estuary was one of the soundtracks of my childhood!
@louisstanko86
@louisstanko86 Ай бұрын
Interesting fact about Shrewsbury station, what is now the ground floor was the last to be added by excavating the car park and that’s why you go under to get to the platforms 😊
@stevenmayhew4868
@stevenmayhew4868 Ай бұрын
I love everything about this
@mattcanning5291
@mattcanning5291 Ай бұрын
From my limited understanding of Welsh pronunciation, Glandyfi is pronounced Glan-Dovey. Hence Dovey Junction / Dyfi Junction.
@paulsengupta971
@paulsengupta971 Ай бұрын
Yes, I came down here to see if anyone had said that. I'm surprised Geoff didn't read the name of Dovey Junction in Welsh and put 2 and 2 together! :-)
@Zharkov1969A
@Zharkov1969A Ай бұрын
Seeing you get rained on in Wales reminded me of every family childhood holiday I ever had. Bleak but beautiful.
@lathama
@lathama Ай бұрын
I worked at the local RSPB reserve around 20 years ago. The only change to the station ive seen is the new bike racks and waiting shelter. When working at the reserve we used to do a weekly nightjar watch from the platform, which was free for RSPB members to attend.
@ethan46441
@ethan46441 Ай бұрын
Lovely video Geoff. Reminded me of my second year at Aberystwyth University in 2012 when my friend (in their final year) lived in the cottages opposite the station entrance. Walking along that footpath with a pair of head torches in the pitch dark returning from a night out will always stay with me - such an eerie experience with just the sound of the river and the wildlife
@paulbarber1960
@paulbarber1960 Ай бұрын
When i was a driver at st pancras i looked at moving to Machynlleth ❤ But my 1977 seniority date was about 20 years to junior 😢 I even looked at a house near Carno. But I'm happy in Norfolk and have a little used station near-by. Spooner row.
@davidgreathead7322
@davidgreathead7322 Ай бұрын
Sorry about the weather when you came on your trip. We live in Glandyfi and walk to the station very early every morning for exercise whatever the weather and it usually is windy and more often than not wet! A lovely hour's walk from home and always enjoyable whatever the weather. We really enjoyed your video - so well produced and informative. The remains of the old Glandyfi platform is at the back of the Station House but you probably already know this! Thanks again! Sue & Dave.
@geofftech2
@geofftech2 Ай бұрын
oh HELLO! what a lovely comment, thank you. yes i had No Idea ( until i checked on the way home ) about the old Glandyfi station, and that's what the Station House is for!! ha ha. love Wales !! :-D
@bipbipletucha
@bipbipletucha Ай бұрын
What a lovely place and a lovely video
@sydshrimp
@sydshrimp Ай бұрын
On a cycling tour in 1963 I remember seeing the same BR Standard 2-6-4 Tank Locomotives at Dovey Junction which used to ply their trade on the LTSR line in the previous 10 years. Love the isolation of the place as you seem to do.
@johnvalentine2963
@johnvalentine2963 Ай бұрын
I remember being in Peterborough and being told to change trains for Aberystwyth in Dyfi Junction " wherever that is!". The short stretch between the bridge and the River Llyfnant flowing into the Dyfi is the only part of Montgomery (or is it Merioneth?)that meets the sea, the Dyfi Estaury deeming to end at the bridge. I was on my good friend and colleague David Hides's licence to net sewin on this part of the Dyfi.
@johnstilljohn3181
@johnstilljohn3181 Ай бұрын
Marvelous...! I recall when Cambridge station was set up like that - total chaos...!
@speedstyle.
@speedstyle. Ай бұрын
They do still use the split platform 1/4 and slide trains past each other in the middle. Not as often though now that southbound trains have plat 7-8
@Chevy-jordan
@Chevy-jordan Ай бұрын
We should make things like the Seiryu Miharashi Eki Station in Japan. Just isolated stops for the sole purpose of enjoying the scenery. This, unintentionally, is such a station. Berney Arms also fits that feel.
@peterrichmond6133
@peterrichmond6133 Ай бұрын
Lovely video Geoff, looks like a great place for a day trip!
@anthonyjames5042
@anthonyjames5042 Ай бұрын
As a former Aber student great to see love for Dovey Junct
@John2Ward
@John2Ward Ай бұрын
You must be a lovey Dovey...
@guillaumemaurice3503
@guillaumemaurice3503 Ай бұрын
Thank you for the video Geoff, it was very interesting. ❤ I've done mountain-walking a few times in Wales. 🙂
@Gary0557
@Gary0557 Ай бұрын
Wouldn't it be nice to just go to that Station and sit there all day enjoying the quiet and scenery.
@paulsengupta971
@paulsengupta971 Ай бұрын
And the wind and rain? Not sure...
@Gary0557
@Gary0557 Ай бұрын
@@paulsengupta971 Obviously pick a nice day mate.
@laura_shannon_
@laura_shannon_ Ай бұрын
When I was growing up my dad had a friend that lived in Dovey Junction (we lived a few towns over and it’d take about an hour to get there maybe shorter) and I always remember passing the train station wondering why there even was one because it was the tiniest place, my dad’s friend lived up a hill in a solitary house surrounded by fields and stuff and it was always muddy. I was just always excited to see his and his wife’s black lab called Jet
@smjrn63
@smjrn63 Ай бұрын
Isolated but with such a lovely view it would be worth a visit. I haved added it to my working list for next year when I make it back to the U.K. This Florida girl will have to bundle up it looks chilly😊
@jakedovey7488
@jakedovey7488 Ай бұрын
I love the name of the station!
@TheKing_moon
@TheKing_moon Ай бұрын
i'm not from UK. (correct me if i'm wrong) but i love how isolated, little or least used statios most of the time are served by sprinters
@mittfh
@mittfh Ай бұрын
There is a rumour that once upon a time, RagAberRag had a "Dovey Junction Challenge" - take the last train out in the evening, camp on the platform overnight, then take the first train in the morning back...
@SteveInskip
@SteveInskip Ай бұрын
Cheers Geoff. Very interesting…..loved it!
@timandmargaretflynn7389
@timandmargaretflynn7389 Ай бұрын
Wow - my favourite station - make sure I pass through it every time I visit the UK from Canada. Thanks for sharing this, Geoff. First visited there while travelling between Aberystwyth and Tywyn on a sunny day back in 1982 - loved the location, with the sunlight playing on the hillsides and the constant ocean breeze. The station building was still there and tokens were still being exchanged. Visited again in 2017 with my son - we were staying at a nearby B&B, our host drove us to the footpath and we hiked to the station. In 2022, I was volunteering at the TR and my wife was arriving from Canada, but she first wanted to visit a long-time friend in Aberystwyth. Dovey Jct. was a great spot to surprise her on the train. Of course, we visited the station again last year during TR/FR volunteering stints. We'll return in 2025.
@barbaramcmillan3835
@barbaramcmillan3835 Ай бұрын
Brilliant. It rained when I was there too, but I did see the nest, it can be seen from the train. You can't walk to it, there's no path, which causes problems when it comes to ringing the chicks before they take flight The catering at the Osprey project is also out of this world, but you wouldn't be any nearer the ospreys, even at the Observatory, which could be seen distantly from one of your positions. Although I found it mesmerising, you missed the best part.
@Nooticus
@Nooticus Ай бұрын
Absolutely excellent video, one of your best in a while! Have been interested in this place for many years and the unusual operations of the station are so interesting too. Really looking forward to a new request stops video next ;)
@DaveinLeeds
@DaveinLeeds Ай бұрын
Thanks Geoff. If possible try and get hold of a book called "Stopping Train Britain" by Alexander Frater from 1983. It has a feature on the Dovey Junction to Pwllheli line and relates how the line had, (maybe still has) serious flooding issues at Dovey at the highest of tides. There's a tale about how a signalman there decided it was time to get out, so pulled all the signals to danger and rapped out the Section Obstructed signal, then made off on hands and knees on the Aberystwyth route, waves breaking about his ears, to the safety of the nearest hillside!
@RandomRailways
@RandomRailways Ай бұрын
One of my favourite stations! The Dovey viaduct - that you can see in the drone shot - was rebuilt, along with a load of the other viaducts along the route when Barmouth bridge was rebuilt last autumn (see my recent article in Today's Railways UK) A couple of years ago I met a member of TFW train crew who lives nearby and has a key for the vehicle gate there, so they can park at the station & take their train to work!
@Anonymoususer_2023
@Anonymoususer_2023 Ай бұрын
I must say that Dovey Junction is pretty much in Mid Wales where you got lots of mountains and hills all over and the view of it is breathtaking. The closest road to get to Dovey Junction station is the A487 and where Morben Isaf Caravan Park is located near to the railway station that is only a short distance by foot.
@GeorgeChoy
@GeorgeChoy Ай бұрын
Lovely video, thanks Geoff
@Phil-oj5nr
@Phil-oj5nr Ай бұрын
Been to Dovey Junction soon after it was rebuilt about 2012/13 or ‘14ish. We were staying at Aberystwyth and took the bus to Machynlleth to catch a steam special to Pwhelli. We got off at Porthmadog and went to Tan-y-Bwulch and back, catching the steamer on the way back. It was hauled by a Black 5 in BR livery with BR MarkI coaches in maroon livery. West Coast Railway ran the train I think. On another visit we were travelling on a Class 158 from Harlech to Shrewsbury (the section to Pwhelli was closed after storm damage) we had to take a bus from Porthmadog to Harlech. Thanks, Geoff for a very interesting video. Now semi-retired in Picton, South Island, New Zealand.
@Will_3rd
@Will_3rd Ай бұрын
Passed through this station many times on the way to and from Aberystwyth while I was a student there 😅
@mccabedave
@mccabedave Ай бұрын
Love this Geoff. Wales is such a beautiful place and even a cold windswept station makes me miss Wales.
@phronsiekeys
@phronsiekeys Ай бұрын
A hidden station, I like that you only walk in or ride in and that there's a local bus to pick you up and drop you off.
@heldvomerdbeerfeld
@heldvomerdbeerfeld Ай бұрын
Love these videos!
@grahamaylott7449
@grahamaylott7449 Ай бұрын
Many thanks Geoff! I'd hoped to walk to Dovey Junction last month on my way to Aberystwyth but it was absolutely pouring with rain. So I continued on my way, briefly stopped at the new Bow Street Station and then sheltered in the warmth of Aberystwyth Arts Centre! 🙂
@vinniesuperstar8923
@vinniesuperstar8923 Ай бұрын
that's the best video you've done for a while
@Professor_sckinnctn
@Professor_sckinnctn Ай бұрын
Great video, as always!
@Beecosy
@Beecosy Ай бұрын
Hi. Woah, first time I passed through Dovey Junction on the train was for my interview at the University college Aberystwyth in 1988. It really did feel like it was in the middle of nowhere :) The seats on those old trains were sideways in some carriages. It was a spectacular view of those hills. Thank you for the trip down memory lane also 🥰
@m1klgordon
@m1klgordon Ай бұрын
Hi Geoff, off topic but I thought you'd appreciate this. Last month I took a Scotrail day trip from Crianlarich to Glenfinnan and briefly got off to take a pic at Corrour. On the Ft William to Mallaig section, who should be the conductor but none other than the lovely lady who had her dog with her when you filmed for All The Stations. I had to laugh when she said she wished she'd her hair done!
@themattitude
@themattitude Ай бұрын
The 'dyfi' in Glandyfi sounds like Dovey.
@paulsengupta971
@paulsengupta971 Ай бұрын
Surprised Geoff didn't see the Welsh for Dovey Junction and make the connection.
@fromabove2024
@fromabove2024 Ай бұрын
4 carriages to Aberystwyth is very rare 😮
@geofftech2
@geofftech2 Ай бұрын
Good spot! the guard told me that there was a techinical fault one of the sets, so they were being moved/taken out of service. on the way back [ same train, four carriages ] the rear two weren't in use, and they weren't letting passengers on them.
@alistairkewish651
@alistairkewish651 Ай бұрын
I didn’t know about that passing loop but it is good to know one has been installed. The legendary footpath away from this junction station remains obscure ,,,,,,,for the moment.
@danwiddon3854
@danwiddon3854 Ай бұрын
Shrewsbury is our local hub station. Used to work in Aberdovey and Barmouth. Glad you enjoyed the Cambrian Line. Expecting an Osprey in flight shot!🎉
@ystumanner1142
@ystumanner1142 Ай бұрын
The final batch of 2 car 197 units to be built by CAF at Newport will all be fitted with ETCS equipment to enable them to operate west of Sutton Bridge Junction in Shrewsbury. They will be based at Machynlleth. Delivery is expected to commence later this year and once testing and driver training has been completed, should come into service in 2025.
@TheWelshonesVideos
@TheWelshonesVideos Ай бұрын
Yes, some 197's are being fitted with ERTMS and will be used on the Cambrian Line. Great video, Geoff!
@user-gc1ky2rf3y
@user-gc1ky2rf3y Ай бұрын
Quite amazing to see the ETCS signs at Dovey Junction.
@harviemilligan1887
@harviemilligan1887 Ай бұрын
I had a copy of "Stopping Train Britain" by (IIRC) Alexander Frater(?) when I was young, the author interviewed the signaller at Dovey Junction, and got to try working one signal - the effort made him imagine the signaller going home to tear up telephone directories to amuse his grandchildren. The chapter on the Cambrian had referred to the tide coming over the track, and made the place seem very isolated, so when I changed trains there heading from Aberystwyth to Pwlheli in 2004 I walked along the path to the main road and back, to see the "barbed wire" logo sign, and confirm to myself that it wasn't only for changing trains at. The new loop (when did that go in, it wasn't there in 2004?) is the same arrangement as Penrhyn on the Falmouth branch, a long platform with the loop points half way along.
@Alexisamuppet
@Alexisamuppet Ай бұрын
I remember around 5 years ago I got off here to run along and grab a bus to Aberystwyth from a bus stop along the main road 😂
@lincolncityful1
@lincolncityful1 Ай бұрын
Great watch thanks
@tobytalksabout5461
@tobytalksabout5461 Ай бұрын
I used to get this train a lot when I was at uni in Aberystwyth. You definitely could get off an down the main road from Dovey Junction. Most trains split at Machynlleth with one end going toward Pwllhelli and the other going to Aberystwyth, so as long as you were in the right end of the train there was no need to change at Dovey Junction. I have seen people get on and off at Dovey Junction, but it was pretty rare
@adrianpeters2413
@adrianpeters2413 Ай бұрын
No video filmed in Wales, is complete without rain .... good video as your latest one on barmouth bridge 😊😊😊😊.....
@beetlesue
@beetlesue Ай бұрын
Enjoyed your video - you missed a real treat not having time to visit he Osprey Project - a great reserve and excellent cafe there. My first visit to Dyfi junction was in 1961 on the Cambrian Coast express which I believe in those days used to actually be split at Dyfi, part went on to Abeystwyth and part to Pwllheli. We were going on holiday to Barmouth.
@domc8247
@domc8247 Ай бұрын
I pass this nearly every year on my way to Barmouth great video
@juliantreadwell7817
@juliantreadwell7817 Ай бұрын
Been through at least four times - aged 9 in 1973, I've a memory of sitting at Dovey Junction for an interminable time awaiting the connection from Aberystwyth to Shrewsbury - we'd arrived from Llwyngwril. I guess even 10 minutes can seem like a life time to a nine year old!
@Sim0nTrains
@Sim0nTrains Ай бұрын
I remember looking at this route ages ago online and that Station house at the end of the path at 9:15 is that is site of the former Glandyfi Station which closed in 1965. Great Video Geoff and looking forward to the request stop video soon.
@iancrane1188
@iancrane1188 Ай бұрын
My family had a holiday in a camping coach at Glydyfi Station, around 1958. We walked along the path to the Junction to get a train to Pwllheli. All trains hauled by steam locomotives, of course. Thanks for the memories!
@hughwilloughby8590
@hughwilloughby8590 Ай бұрын
The Castle is called Glandyfi (pr: glan-duv-ey) Castle and is a mock castle built by a barrister in 1819. It was for sale a few years ago (fantasies of owning it and having exclusive vehicle access to the station 😜). There was a much more ancient Aberdyfi Castle about another mile further to the coast, but only the motte remains.
@BenSenneck92
@BenSenneck92 Ай бұрын
When at uni in Aber - I heard that Dovey Jct was popular with tourists who would ride the train there then cycle back to Aber or the other way. Hence the bike shelter.
@MatsOrmhed
@MatsOrmhed Ай бұрын
Interesting video!
@TheLondonguy
@TheLondonguy Ай бұрын
Awesome video
@MikolajCzyta
@MikolajCzyta Ай бұрын
Very interesting video, Geoff. Keep doing more videos as interesting as this one, and the previous videos and I am sure the number of video like will increase and the number of subscribers will also increase!😊
@BrianMurfitt
@BrianMurfitt Ай бұрын
Hi Geoff, this was a great video. I'd never heard of this place before, it looks so remote, but so interesting and windy. It's a pity you didn't take a walk to the bird sanctuary and the castle, but I could see you weren't prepared for it (you should have worn warmer clothes)! Can you do another video of Dovey Junction again in the summer and then video/visit the bird sanctuary and the castle? That would be brilliant. 🕊️🏰🤗
@ajbonmg
@ajbonmg Ай бұрын
Fancy going to Wales with no suitable coat! 🌧🎐😄
@bradleigh10
@bradleigh10 Ай бұрын
Many many years ago we was on a family holiday to Aberystywth and wanted to catch the train to Barmouth. We got to the station but there was a long wait for the train and the ticket clerk said to drive to Dovey Junction as there was a train due in like an hour or so.. We did that and ran up the path to catch the train, my dad managed to get to the platform and tell the guard to wait as my mum in her flip flops was waaaay behind 😅 We managed to all get on the train, but the guard was not happy and I think we delayed the service by about 5 minutes. IIRC it was a 158 in Central trains colours.
@philipbrailey
@philipbrailey Ай бұрын
Great video for tourists.
@roderickjoyce6716
@roderickjoyce6716 Ай бұрын
Once upon a time Dovey Junction had lower quadrant semaphores and a signal box, and yes, there were passing loops on both sides and some rather forlorn sidings. I first visited the station in 1966, just too late to catch the last steam trains, although the MetroCammell DMUs did give you a better view from the front seats behind the cab. Welsh ospreys seem to like trains. The Dyfed nest isn't far from the station, and the nest webcam (also on KZfaq) has shown passing trains in the background in the past (and a year or so ago had a note to say no trains were passing because of a strike). The Bywyd Gwyllt Glaslyn/Glaslyn Wildlife webcam shows the osprey nest near Port Croesor station on the Welsh Highland line - the cam is often panned to show the WHR trains when the ospreys aren't around.
@grahvis
@grahvis Ай бұрын
I have actually got off a train close to the old Glandyfi station. After travelling along the estuary with the water up to rail height, the train stopped short of Dovey Junction with it being announced that the water was up to the platforms and the train would have to wait until it went down, that is until the tide started ebbing. After a few minutes it was decided a coach made more sense, so the train reversed back to Glandyfi where we all climbed down using the wooden steps carried for the purpose and walked back to the road.
@andyt2510
@andyt2510 Ай бұрын
Wish I knew the platform layout before we changed here from Aberystwyth to Pwllheli just over a month ago! Only a 5 minute change between those trains! However, we did our first ever request stop of Penychan as this was our destination.
@JB-ek4yx
@JB-ek4yx Ай бұрын
There's already a pair of 2car 197's based at Machynlleth shed for driver training and fettling with the ERTMS signalling system to get it working so TFW can give their 158's the boot.
@TeessideGeordieExile-jr8kd
@TeessideGeordieExile-jr8kd Ай бұрын
Hi Geoff, I used the train in 1970 to attend the Outward Bound School at Aberdovey. I started out from Newcastle upon Tyne Central Station via Birmingham New Street, Wolverhampton, Shrewsbury and Machynlleth before alighting at Penhelig Halt. What a journey that was. On the return trip all the lads who were travelling home by train were told to change trains at Machynlleth. When we got to Dovey Junction the Euston Express from Aberystwyth was already at the station so a few of us got off very quickly and boarded the waiting train and managed to find seats. When it eventually got to Machynlleth all the passengers from our previous train were waiting on the platform and the train was in the sidings there to allow the express through. I remember the Euston Express must have had about six or eight carriages behind a diesel loco. This is probably why Dovey Junction has such a long platform on the Aberystwyth side.
@hughwilloughby8590
@hughwilloughby8590 Ай бұрын
There used to be a 1-a-day direct diesel service to London, originally to Paddington, then latterly to Euston (when I used it in the ‘80s). 6 or 8 carriages behind a class 37 loco.
@ThatRomyKate
@ThatRomyKate Ай бұрын
You should add defibrillator to your station checklist. I’m surprised and impressed that there’s one at such a remote station!
@roundhouses
@roundhouses Ай бұрын
Some years ago we decided to catch the Aberystwyth portion of the train and change at Dovey Junction for the portion to Pwllheli as there was about 4 minutes in between them and it had been may years since being on Dovey Junction station. However we didn't know that the Aberystwyth platform had been extended that long and we had to run to make the Pwllheli train. We just made it. We passed through there only a week ago on our way from Barmouth to Cardiff on our travels.
@6666steved
@6666steved Ай бұрын
Goodness Geoff, you're getting around a bit these days with Guildford, Highgate and Dovey Junction in three successive videos. Nice.
@fredsmith6725
@fredsmith6725 Ай бұрын
Whilst listing the facilities, you didnt mention the defibrillator. ❤️❤️❤️
@iancarr8682
@iancarr8682 Ай бұрын
Good to know the hills have not moved!
@soandso9204
@soandso9204 Ай бұрын
6:27 lol I'm a local and I've cycled to Dyfi Junction a few times, its a nice trick for a slightly shorter bike ride than cycling all the way to Machynlleth, since every train going north from Machynlleth will also stop at Dyfi Junction
@aldo5428
@aldo5428 Ай бұрын
I’m surprised nobody mentioned Malcolm Roots fantastic atmospheric painting of Dovey Junction in steam days, depicting Manor Class, 7820 Dinmore Manor calling at the station with the Cambrian Coast Express with a view down the wooden platform showing some of the station buildings on a wet and overcast day with a throng of passengers changing trains including schoolboys sitting on suitcases in shorts noting numbers. Have the Waddingtons jigsaw…
@geoffreyford7288
@geoffreyford7288 Ай бұрын
In about 1960 the family had a holiday at Barmouth. I was only 10 but my brother who was 10 years older. I wanted to go to the Vale of Rhydal at Aberystwyth. We caught the train down but don't remember where we changed. On our way back we had to change at Dovey Junction as the two trains crossed at Machynlleth. While waiting a green light engine arrived from the Barmouth line. The signalman came out of his box and asked the driver 'where are you going to?' The driver replied Shrewsbury, so the signalman told him to go into one of the sidings. My brother thought this was a hilarious, i was too young to fully understand, but years later he would often have a chuckle if the conversation turned to the Cambrian Line.
@RichyRail_
@RichyRail_ Ай бұрын
As a former local to this area, I would love to see Geoff try to pronounce all the stations along the Cambrian Coastline. Have fun with Penrhyndeudraeth!
@geofftech2
@geofftech2 Ай бұрын
Oh I saw that one and just thought, “nope!” Ha HAA 😅
@llwyde1104
@llwyde1104 Ай бұрын
I could teach you in 10 minutes flat😅
@ystumanner1142
@ystumanner1142 Ай бұрын
The Aberystwyth platform at Dovey Junction was always this long. It enabled the portion of a train from Pwllheli to set back onto the portion from Aber sitting in the platform and still have the whole train platformed. Such trains as the Cambrian Coast Express. There were run-round loops for both platforms, enabling loco movements. I'm not sure how long after the end of steam (early 60s) such arrangements lasted and clearly, from your old photos, the track had been rationalized by the early 80s.
@geofftech2
@geofftech2 Ай бұрын
fantastic info, thanks!
@grahvis
@grahvis Ай бұрын
It would also allow for passengers changing from the long holiday trains to Aberystwyth, the platform there is very long. There was some rationalisation during the 80s, for example Caersws lost its passing loop, which interestingly was not at the station itself but the other side of the road. When in use, trains to Machynlleth after stopping, reversed back on to it,
@mrmouse7642
@mrmouse7642 Ай бұрын
I love that area. Reminds me of when my now adult daughter was little and she and I would visit that area from Milton Keynes area doing everything by train and bus. Truly wonderful. Always wondered why anyone would change at Dovey Junction when you could change at Machynlleth as all relevant trains split at Machynlleth. Over to you Geoff. PS I'm/was called Geoff (Geoff with a G, by my third name for the first 18 years of my life), who of our generation has that name? I may be a bit older born in the 60s. Had our daughter been a boy she would have had the dubious honour of being named Geoffrey after both her grandfathers and me.
@hazelbrewer9740
@hazelbrewer9740 Ай бұрын
The first timee I saw Dyfi Junction it was asmall island platform no longer than 2-3 coaches long. You can imagine the confusion every Sturday in summer monthsThere used also to be Gogarth that was nothing but a corrugated iron lean to. It was blown awy one stormy night never to be seen again!
@jamyt123
@jamyt123 Ай бұрын
In 2013 I was part of the Aberystwyth University Real Ale Society's first (well only...) Dovey Junction Beer festival on the platform. Probably the only thing to have happened there before and since!
@GlobeSync1
@GlobeSync1 Ай бұрын
Great and informative video Geoff! I would have never known about somthing so intresting eithout your channel, keep making great video's!
@dylanmcfarland8356
@dylanmcfarland8356 Ай бұрын
I'm a local in Shrewsbury (even though I live in the outskirts of the town) and I must admit I knew about the exit from Dovey Junction into the main road to the next stop which is Borth, where I've stopped for a few days' holiday. The proof is that if you can look outside on the left-hand side from the train windows you can see it. Believe me, I've been past Dovey Junction before and even changed trains there from Borth to Tywin and vice versa.
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